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Posted: 11/20/2008 10:20:47 AM EDT
Somali pirates demand $25 million for oil tanker

MOGADISHU (AFP) – Somali pirates who hijacked a Saudi oil super-tanker demanded a 25 million dollar ransom Thursday amid calls for tougher action to end threats to one of the world's key maritime routes.

As global frustration built and a major shipping company ordered some of its vessels to avoid the Gulf of Aden, the pirates set a 10-day deadline for the ransom payment.

"We are demanding 25 million dollars (20 million euros) from the Saudi owners of the tanker. We do not want long-term discussions to resolve the matter," a pirate who identified himself as Mohamed Said said from the ship.

"The Saudis have 10 days to comply, otherwise we will take action that could be disastrous," Said told AFP from the ship now anchored at the Somali pirate lair of Harardhere, without elaborating.

Link Posted: 11/20/2008 10:23:23 AM EDT
The Saudi response should be epic. I hope it gets filmed.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 10:24:10 AM EDT
Originally Posted By johnny_cargo:
Somali pirates demand $25 million for oil tanker

MOGADISHU (AFP) – Somali pirates who hijacked a Saudi oil super-tanker demanded a 25 million dollar ransom Thursday amid calls for tougher action to end threats to one of the world's key maritime routes.

As global frustration built and a major shipping company ordered some of its vessels to avoid the Gulf of Aden, the pirates set a 10-day deadline for the ransom payment.

"We are demanding 25 million dollars (20 million euros) from the Saudi owners of the tanker. We do not want long-term discussions to resolve the matter," a pirate who identified himself as Mohamed Said said from the ship.

"The Saudis have 10 days to comply, otherwise we will take action that could be disastrous," Said told AFP from the ship now anchored at the Somali pirate lair of Harardhere, without elaborating.


$25Million for a tanker filled with oil. Kinda resembles the scene from Austin Powers.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 10:32:07 AM EDT
Time to put the beat down on these thugs.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 10:32:34 AM EDT
The oil alone is worth around 100 mill. Not counting how much a tanker costs.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 10:35:03 AM EDT
10 days is plenty of time to carpet bomb somali


Link Posted: 11/20/2008 10:35:29 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Tacticalpancake:
The oil alone is worth around 100 mill. Not counting how much a tanker costs.



I did a quick Google and found an article that said new tankers like the one hi-jacked costs about $148 million. I'll bet the Saudis pay $25 million to get back $248 million.

Link Posted: 11/20/2008 10:36:39 AM EDT
be amusing if BlackWater got hired in tonight by the Saudi's and spent the next year in Somalia, killing all the pirates,
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 10:37:14 AM EDT
Originally Posted By johnny_cargo:
...a pirate who identified himself as Mohamed Said soon to be dead, said from the ship....


Link Posted: 11/20/2008 10:38:09 AM EDT
Send these guys.



They specialize in silently boarding ships and quickly taking out the bad guys. This is what they train for.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 10:42:55 AM EDT
Once you pay the danegeld... Idiots.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 10:49:04 AM EDT
"news flash-Day nine , tanker stormed by saudis"


well , someones gotta do it, shouldn't be us.



start killin these fucks and stop payin them.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 10:53:04 AM EDT
Originally Posted By johnny_cargo:
Somali pirates demand $25 million for oil tanker

MOGADISHU (AFP) – Somali pirates who hijacked a Saudi oil super-tanker demanded a 25 million dollar ransom Thursday amid calls for tougher action to end threats to one of the world's key maritime routes.

As global frustration built and a major shipping company ordered some of its vessels to avoid the Gulf of Aden, the pirates set a 10-day deadline for the ransom payment.

"We are demanding 25 million dollars (20 million euros) from the Saudi owners of the tanker. We do not want long-term discussions to resolve the matter," a pirate who identified himself as Mohamed Said said from the ship.

"The Saudis have 10 days to comply, otherwise we will take action that could be disastrous," Said told AFP from the ship now anchored at the Somali pirate lair of Harardhere, without elaborating.



Wouldn't it be fucking hilarious if the Saudis gave them 9 days to return the tanker and its crew or get carpet bombed?
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 10:56:34 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
Send these guys.

http://www.navy.mil/moh/mpmurphy/images/image005.jpg

They specialize in silently boarding ships and quickly taking out the bad guys. This is what they train for.


They were all killed in combat except the guy with the ballcap.



Link Posted: 11/20/2008 10:57:13 AM EDT
Originally Posted By 70satvert:
The Saudi response should be epic. I hope it gets filmed.


Yeah, Like from a smart bomb.






I say blow the fucker up while it's docked.


Link Posted: 11/20/2008 11:05:17 AM EDT
Originally Posted By AJ-IN-JAX:
Originally Posted By 70satvert:
The Saudi response should be epic. I hope it gets filmed.


Yeah, Like from a smart bomb.






I say blow the fucker up while it's docked.




I would try to recover it, but I think I'd be tempted to blow up every building in the town which has been improved since the piracy started. Basically if you're obviously profiting from the piracy, you lose. I'd start w/ a bombing & move troops in while it's happening to take the ships back & kill the pirates. If that was the normal policy the piracy would stop in a hurry.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 11:07:24 AM EDT
So who thinks the Saudis will pay?

I think it would be cheaper to seize the tanker.

Who gets called then?
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 11:09:01 AM EDT
Pay them then drop a Jdam on them in town a few days later....
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 11:11:37 AM EDT
Pay them now and you'll pay them forever.

Take the Keyser Soze approach and kill everyone on board and destroy the ship.

Steal from us and you die, no matter what.

You'll never have to worry about your goods being stolen again.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 11:13:53 AM EDT
Can someone please explain to me why merchant vessels or cargo ships aren't allowed to have their own armed security? Is it only because they end up docking in other countries' ports when they drop the cargo?


It's time for this crap to end. Like, yesterday.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 11:14:12 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 11:14:27 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 11:19:28 AM EDT
They will pay.


Link Posted: 11/20/2008 11:19:32 AM EDT
9 days to pay... Or WHAT?
What are they threatening to do if they are NOT paid?
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 11:20:21 AM EDT
Why isn't someone blowing their shit up?
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 11:27:40 AM EDT
Originally Posted By madmedic:
9 days to pay... Or WHAT?
What are they threatening to do if they are NOT paid?





My guess......drop a few white phosphorus grenades in the oil and abandon ship.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 11:34:46 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 11:47:15 AM EDT
Why not just put out an award of $1,000.00 for the head of pirate?
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 11:49:12 AM EDT
The problem is if the Saudis don't pay up they'll start having problems getting crews willing to sail on the tankers.

I'd pay up if I were in charge. As soon as the ship cleared port, I'd send some of those fancy airplanes they've been buying from us to burn the port completely to the ground. Sink everything in sight, kill anything that moves, and ruin every resource even remotely connected to holding the ship. Make it understood that if you are even standing close by a pirate you'll probably get bombed, too. Publicly state that your rules of engagement will allow sinking anything you please if it's powered by a motor if it's more than two miles from the Somali coastline. If they took three or four days of good hard work to do it, it would leave an impression. Oh, I forgot, Saudis are allergic to doing their own dirty work. Oh well, they should just pay up.

They'll wind up hiring mercenaries to protect their ships and somehow the U.S. will wind up footing the bulk of the costs. Business as usual.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 11:59:15 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 12:21:55 PM EDT
Originally Posted By uxb:
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
Send these guys.

http://www.navy.mil/moh/mpmurphy/images/image005.jpg

They specialize in silently boarding ships and quickly taking out the bad guys. This is what they train for.


They were all killed in combat except the guy with the ballcap.





Is the ballcap guy 'Lutrell'?

7mm
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 12:31:03 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 7mm-08:
Originally Posted By uxb:
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
Send these guys.

http://www.navy.mil/moh/mpmurphy/images/image005.jpg

They specialize in silently boarding ships and quickly taking out the bad guys. This is what they train for.


They were all killed in combat except the guy with the ballcap.





Is the ballcap guy 'Lutrell'?

7mm


Marcus Luttrell. Go read his book.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 12:36:31 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 12:45:54 PM EDT
I can probably be there loaded up and ready to go in 3 days, and home in time for Thanksgiving



Link Posted: 11/20/2008 12:49:57 PM EDT
The problem with a bomb then all response is that a large number of hostages will be killed. It is better to avoid that if possible. It is bad pr to kill your employees.
Also there are a number of other ships anchored there with hostages on each ship.

The people who do it for a living have said that it would be nearly impossible to take back that ship since it is anchored in a port surrounded by a few thousand armed bad guys.

I will bet that the Saudis will pay, and they will then invest in security for their ships.

I get the feeling that the world is fed up with the pirates and will now start taking agressive action against them. What has to be done is to make it too expensive, (read you lose your life), to continue to be a pirate. Presently it is a very good business for them. Now, if the mother ships that they send out begain to fail to return, (see Indian Navy) things would change.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 12:51:31 PM EDT
Originally Posted By FoxCharlieActual:
Originally Posted By 7mm-08:
Originally Posted By uxb:
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
Send these guys.

http://www.navy.mil/moh/mpmurphy/images/image005.jpg

They specialize in silently boarding ships and quickly taking out the bad guys. This is what they train for.


They were all killed in combat except the guy with the ballcap.





Is the ballcap guy 'Lutrell'?

7mm


Marcus Luttrell. Go read his book.


Already read the book.
That picture was not in the paperback so I had to guess. Most all the pics were when they were clean shaven.

7mm

Link Posted: 11/20/2008 1:14:31 PM EDT
cod 4 the ship level, send me in for 5 million with a hand picked crew and I will own those pirates.



Link Posted: 11/20/2008 1:50:21 PM EDT
I have no problem killing the pirates but I am a bit concerned about the massive environmental impact of blowing up an oil tanker full of oil that could result from either sides actions.

And no, I'm not some earth first member.

Brian
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 1:53:15 PM EDT
Originally Posted By brian4wd:
I have no problem killing the pirates but I am a bit concerned about the massive environmental impact of blowing up an oil tanker full of oil that could result from either sides actions.

And no, I'm not some earth first member.

Brian


For some reason I have trouble believing any Somalis do environmental impact studies for any of their endevours.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 1:56:22 PM EDT

The Saudis won't do dick. We're not talking about the Israelis here.....

They'll cave and pay something.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 1:58:24 PM EDT
They just chose the date for thier execution.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 2:06:54 PM EDT
You gotta love the way they have a "Pirate Lair"
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 2:42:42 PM EDT
Originally Posted By FZ1Steve:
The problem with a bomb then all response is that a large number of hostages will be killed. It is better to avoid that if possible. It is bad pr to kill your employees.
Also there are a number of other ships anchored there with hostages on each ship.

The people who do it for a living have said that it would be nearly impossible to take back that ship since it is anchored in a port surrounded by a few thousand armed bad guys.

I will bet that the Saudis will pay, and they will then invest in security for their ships.

I get the feeling that the world is fed up with the pirates and will now start taking agressive action against them. What has to be done is to make it too expensive, (read you lose your life), to continue to be a pirate. Presently it is a very good business for them. Now, if the mother ships that they send out begain to fail to return, (see Indian Navy) things would change.


voice of reason here.

Link Posted: 11/20/2008 2:53:42 PM EDT
They will pay, they always fucking pay and the pirates know it, hence why business is so good for them.

We need to level that pirate town and put the new LCS off the coast and fuck up any pirates we find. ROE is shoot on sight.

Steve
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 2:59:09 PM EDT
It doesn't make sense for them not to pay.

Let's see, pay 25 million for the return of a cargo worth 4 times that much, and a ship worth 5 times as much. Get the 25 million back in insurance, at the cost of an increase in premiums. Hell, the Saudis could pay out of pocket and still come out ahead.

or

don't pay and have that ship sit for the next 5 months not making a dime, loosing potentially billions.

I don't think the pirates would kill crew or damage the ship or cargo. that just means dead pirates, and while not being particularly smart, they sure ain't that dumb. If they damage the cargo or ship, or kill the crew, that effectively kills thier chances for future ransom payouts.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 3:00:07 PM EDT
Originally Posted By johnny_cargo:


"The Saudis have 10 days to comply, otherwise we will take action that could be disastrous,"



I don't think these guys realize who is going to be hit by the disaster...

Link Posted: 11/20/2008 3:03:15 PM EDT
Originally Posted By freerider04:
It doesn't make sense for them not to pay.

Let's see, pay 25 million for the return of a cargo worth 4 times that much, and a ship worth 5 times as much. Get the 25 million back in insurance, at the cost of an increase in premiums. Hell, the Saudis could pay out of pocket and still come out ahead.

or

don't pay and have that ship sit for the next 5 months not making a dime, loosing potentially billions.

I don't think the pirates would kill crew or damage the ship or cargo. that just means dead pirates, and while not being particularly smart, they sure ain't that dumb. If they damage the cargo or ship, or kill the crew, that effectively kills thier chances for future ransom payouts.


Listen to the puddle pirate. He knows of what he speaks.
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