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Posted: 10/24/2010 10:19:45 AM EST
I need to find some.

Thanks,

Link Posted: 10/24/2010 10:21:54 AM EST
[#1]
There were no blacks in the wehrmacht or SS...Asians? maybe a 2% shot at that. Remember, Hitler hated jesse Owens owning the olympics in 1936.
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 10:24:54 AM EST
[#3]
Don't know about blacks, but there was a Chinese officer in the Wehrmacht. Shortly before his Panzer division was to roll into of Poland, he was recalled to China when the Japs invaded.



There's also, of course, that infamous Korean dude who was pressed into service by the Chinese, Japanese, Russian, and German armies before finally being captured by the Americans at Normandy.



Here's some Bosnian Muslim SS troops, while we're at it,

Link Posted: 10/24/2010 10:26:21 AM EST
[#4]
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There were no blacks in the wehrmacht or SS...Asians? maybe a 2% shot at that. Remember, Hitler hated jesse Owens owning the olympics in 1936.


That isn't the case.  I'm sure someone will be along with pictures soon.
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 10:28:29 AM EST
[#5]
Quoted:
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There were no blacks in the wehrmacht or SS...Asians? maybe a 2% shot at that. Remember, Hitler hated jesse Owens owning the olympics in 1936.


That isn't the case.  I'm sure someone will be along with pictures soon.
I've spent most of my life reading about that era...maybe in the Afrika Korps they had some?(blacks) I've never come across anything that indicates it though.

Link Posted: 10/24/2010 10:31:29 AM EST
[#6]
Legion Freies Indien



There were also black soldiers in the Freies Arabien.

Link Posted: 10/24/2010 10:31:38 AM EST
[#7]
Any blacks in the Wehrmacht uniform would have been part of the involuntary labor force... which also included French, Russian, Jew, English, American, etc., etc. By the way, a lot of Germans in the Wehrmacht weren't Nazis.
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 10:32:13 AM EST
[#8]
Are you looking for Wehrmacht or SS troops? I would think it would be difficult to find much diversity among the Wehrmacht. You may have better luck with the SS, though.
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 10:32:15 AM EST
[#9]
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There were no blacks in the wehrmacht or SS...Asians? maybe a 2% shot at that. Remember, Hitler hated jesse Owens owning the olympics in 1936.


That isn't the case.  I'm sure someone will be along with pictures soon.
I've spent most of my life reading about that era...maybe in the Afrika Korps they had some?(blacks) I've never come across anything that indicates it though.



yes you may have read a few books but to say there was NONE is a big thing to state.  
oh well.
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 10:33:18 AM EST
[#10]
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Are you looking for Wehrmacht or SS troops? I would think it would be difficult to find much diversity among the Wehrmacht. You may have better luck with the SS, though.


anybody serving for the Germans is what Im looking for, thanks
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 10:46:30 AM EST
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Link Posted: 10/24/2010 11:15:11 AM EST
[#12]
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Hitler felt all races were inferior to the Aryan man, however that didn't stop him from having entire divisions of non Germans including blacks and Asians fight for the Third Reich. I am not going to bother finding pictures, but they are out there and not that hard to find.


You're saying the Third Reich had entire divisions of blacks and Asians? What the fuck?
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 11:22:23 AM EST
[#13]
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Hitler felt all races were inferior to the Aryan man, however that didn't stop him from having entire divisions of non Germans including blacks and Asians fight for the Third Reich. I am not going to bother finding pictures, but they are out there and not that hard to find.


You're saying the Third Reich had entire divisions of blacks and Asians? What the fuck?


No, entire divisions composed of non Germans.  These "divisions" were often more like a battalion in size.
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 11:27:19 AM EST
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Link Posted: 10/24/2010 11:37:05 AM EST
[#15]
Wasn't Chiang Kai Shek's son an exchange officer in the werhmacht or something?
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 12:20:18 PM EST
[#16]
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Wasn't Chiang Kai Shek's son an exchange officer in the werhmacht or something?


One in Germany.  One in Russia.
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 12:22:00 PM EST
[#17]



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I need to find some.



Thanks,





They're with the pictures of Norman Rockwell beating a small child.



 
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 12:23:05 PM EST
[#18]
working hard to prove nazis weren't racist on a sunny sunday morning, eh?
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 12:27:28 PM EST
[#19]
Apparentlyt I clearly have delusions of Hitlers criteria for SS selection.  As early as this morning I was watching Hitlers SS on the Military Channel, and they stated that SS were the epitome of Hitler's Aryan race - Blonde haired, blue eyed, must prove German lineage back to 1750, etc.  
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 12:29:01 PM EST
[#20]
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working hard to prove nazis weren't racist on a sunny sunday morning, eh?


Everyone needs a hobby!  
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 12:35:52 PM EST
[#21]




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Apparentlyt I clearly have delusions of Hitlers criteria for SS selection. As early as this morning I was watching Hitlers SS on the Military Channel, and they stated that SS were the epitome of Hitler's Aryan race - Blonde haired, blue eyed, must prove German lineage back to 1750, etc.




They started out that way, but towards the end of the war the SS divisions had a hodge podge of nationalities and ethnicities in them.  They pretty much took what they could get.  



I have never seen any photos of Africans in German uniforms.  I am fair from an expert on the subject though.
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 12:51:14 PM EST
[#22]
Look up a few posts...
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 12:52:55 PM EST
[#23]
Can't, the firewall blocks almost all pictures here.    I will take a look when I get off of work.
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 12:54:07 PM EST
[#24]
Never fails...

Anyways, these non Aryan soldiers were probably conscripts, who for the 1st time in their lives, were enjoying regular meals, some medical care and a paycheck.

Though these posts are historical in nature, they are irrelevant.

Looking at the big picture is the best lesson to avoid repeating the mistakes of our past.

In the case of Hitler and his Nazi's, it is the people and entities who funded his war, that makes for interesting reading and valuable intel for the futrue.

Hitler like Stalin, Roosevelt and Churchill were pawns.

The unfortunate part, we the US, and other nations are still being danced around by the same shit stains who funded every major war and skirmish of the last 200 years.

Looking the other way, has become SOP for most psuedo patriots here and there.

Have a nice day
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 12:55:20 PM EST
[#25]
Nazi bastards
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 12:56:23 PM EST
[#26]
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Apparentlyt I clearly have delusions of Hitlers criteria for SS selection.  As early as this morning I was watching Hitlers SS on the Military Channel, and they stated that SS were the epitome of Hitler's Aryan race - Blonde haired, blue eyed, must prove German lineage back to 1750, etc.  


There were lots of SS Divisions and some, as stated above, were composed of non-aryan volunteers.

Never, ever, rely on the Military Channel or the History Channel for proof-positive factual information. Some of the shit they spout off as facts drives me nuts.
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 12:59:55 PM EST
[#27]
I seem to recall there was an African tribe that Hitler viewed their lineage race as worthy - maybe I am mistaken, I am not certain.
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 1:05:38 PM EST
[#28]
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Apparentlyt I clearly have delusions of Hitlers criteria for SS selection.  As early as this morning I was watching Hitlers SS on the Military Channel, and they stated that SS were the epitome of Hitler's Aryan race - Blonde haired, blue eyed, must prove German lineage back to 1750, etc.  



It was that way in the beginning.

Towards the end, you just needed a pulse.

Link Posted: 10/24/2010 1:09:00 PM EST
[#29]
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 1:20:23 PM EST
[#30]
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Are you looking for Wehrmacht or SS troops? I would think it would be difficult to find much diversity among the Wehrmacht. You may have better luck with the SS, though.


I think you have that backwards.
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 1:22:45 PM EST
[#31]




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Quoted:

Are you looking for Wehrmacht or SS troops? I would think it would be difficult to find much diversity among the Wehrmacht. You may have better luck with the SS, though.




I think you have that backwards.





You would think so, but it worked out the other way during the war.
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 1:23:04 PM EST
[#32]
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Are you looking for Wehrmacht or SS troops? I would think it would be difficult to find much diversity among the Wehrmacht. You may have better luck with the SS, though.


I think you have that backwards.


um, no.
all the internationals were ss.
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 1:28:13 PM EST
[#33]
Chiang Wei Kuo is the name of the Asian Officer pictured.
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 1:45:43 PM EST
[#34]




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Apparentlyt I clearly have delusions of Hitlers criteria for SS selection. As early as this morning I was watching Hitlers SS on the Military Channel, and they stated that SS were the epitome of Hitler's Aryan race - Blonde haired, blue eyed, must prove German lineage back to 1750, etc.




That was true for the SS (including the "regular" Waffen SS).



It was not true for the "volunteer" (freiwillinge) units or the "legions".  Their unit titles reflected this.  The 1st SS Panzergrenadier Division (Liebstandarte) was titled "1. SS-Panzergrenadierdivision "Liebstandarte Adolph Hitler".  As in "SS division".



The foreign units were "of the SS" as in  30. Waffen-Grenadier-Division der SS (russische Nr. 2) (30th Armed Heavy Infantry Division of the SS (Russian No. 2).



Foreign units were often transferred from the Wehrmacht into the Waffen SS (all of them except the remains of the Spanish "Blue Division were by 1944).



The French volunteer brigade "Charlemagne" (The LVF or French Volunteer Legion against Bolshevism) was originally the Wehrmacht's 638th Infantry Regiment (Infanterieregiment 638).   It saw heavy fighting in the USSR and its remains were amalgamated with the remains of the 8th SS Volunteer Assault Brigade (raised by a former French Foreign Legionnaire) in September 1944 to form the Waffen-Grenadier-Brigade der SS Charlemagne (französische Nr.1).  The original Wehrmacht French volunteers were now in the SS.
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 2:00:04 PM EST
[#35]

Hollywood lied to me, and I shan't forget it.

Fascinating stuff.  

Link Posted: 10/24/2010 2:00:59 PM EST
[#36]




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Apparentlyt I clearly have delusions of Hitlers criteria for SS selection. As early as this morning I was watching Hitlers SS on the Military Channel, and they stated that SS were the epitome of Hitler's Aryan race - Blonde haired, blue eyed, must prove German lineage back to 1750, etc.




That was true for the SS (including the "regular" Waffen SS).



It was not true for the "volunteer" (freiwillinge) units or the "legions". Their unit titles reflected this. The 1st SS Panzergrenadier Division (Liebstandarte) was titled "1. SS-Panzergrenadierdivision "Liebstandarte Adolph Hitler". As in "SS division".



The foreign units were "of the SS" as in 30. Waffen-Grenadier-Division der SS (russische Nr. 2) (30th Armed Heavy Infantry Division of the SS (Russian No. 2).



Foreign units were often transferred from the Wehrmacht into the Waffen SS (all of them except the remains of the Spanish "Blue Division were by 1944).



The French volunteer brigade "Charlemagne" (The LVF or French Volunteer Legion against Bolshevism) was originally the Wehrmacht's 638th Infantry Regiment (Infanterieregiment 638). It saw heavy fighting in the USSR and its remains were amalgamated with the remains of the 8th SS Volunteer Assault Brigade (raised by a former French Foreign Legionnaire) in September 1944 to form the Waffen-Grenadier-Brigade der SS Charlemagne (französische Nr.1). The original Wehrmacht French volunteers were now in the SS.




WOW!  You sir, are a wealth of knowledge on this subject!  Thank you for taking the time to educate me!  
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 2:13:27 PM EST
[#37]
Holy shit...........Asian Nazi's playing chess.............WTF!!!!!!!!  Just waiting for pics of Asian Nazis playing ping pong in uniform.  Just how fuckin bizarre yet stereotypical would that be?
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 2:14:50 PM EST
[#38]
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Apparentlyt I clearly have delusions of Hitlers criteria for SS selection.  As early as this morning I was watching Hitlers SS on the Military Channel, and they stated that SS were the epitome of Hitler's Aryan race - Blonde haired, blue eyed, must prove German lineage back to 1750, etc.  



It was that way in the beginning.

Towards the end, you just needed a pulse.



The SS, like the US Special Forces, were supposed to be a force multiplier.  The SS were meant to be the force that would colonize the conquered territories (the "living space") and were supposed to raise indigenous forces of allied/conquered peoples. While the German SS was all about "purity", the idea was the the SS would raise local SS units. The picture of the Bosnian Muslim SS formation is pretty famous, but much less spoken of - I wonder why? - is the French, Belgian, Russian, and Nordic SS units.

The Nazis attempted to exploit anti-colonialist sentiments in the French and British colonies.  Hence, the "Free" Arab and "Free" Indian units.
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 2:17:17 PM EST
[#39]


A picture taken in 1943 of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Haj Amin el-Husseini (Yassir Arafat's uncle) reviewing Bosnian-Muslim troops - a unit of the "Hanjar (Saber) Division" of the Waffen SS which he personally recruited for Hitler.  

They helped round up more jews for the ovens.
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 2:17:35 PM EST
[#40]
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There were no blacks in the wehrmacht or SS...Asians? maybe a 2% shot at that. Remember, Hitler hated jesse Owens owning the olympics in 1936.


That isn't the case.  I'm sure someone will be along with pictures soon.
I've spent most of my life reading about that era...maybe in the Afrika Korps they had some?(blacks) I've never come across anything that indicates it though.



yes you may have read a few books but to say there was NONE is a big thing to state.  
oh well.
You win...thats the important thing right?

Link Posted: 10/24/2010 2:17:46 PM EST
[#41]
yeah no non whites ever served.  
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 2:19:09 PM EST
[#42]
I learned something new today, amazing...thanks so much for sharing these! I wonder what these guys thought though fighting for a country that considered them inferior?

Link Posted: 10/24/2010 2:22:41 PM EST
[#43]
I sure wish I had the photoshop skills to do something with Lootie for this thread...    
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 2:27:09 PM EST
[#44]
Hitler's Jewish Soldiers
My Business Partner Bryan Rigg wrote this for his Phd at Cambridge
http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/righit.html

Link Posted: 10/24/2010 2:33:13 PM EST
[#45]
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I seem to recall there was an African tribe that Hitler viewed their lineage race as worthy - maybe I am mistaken, I am not certain.


You may be thinking of Himmler's obsession with Tibetans. A team of SS scientists under Ersnt Shafer actually went on a pretty cool voyage through the mountains out there and into Tibet itself doing shoddy racial research. Took lots of casts of people's faces, measuring their noses, ears, etc., all of that stuff. Also hunted some pretty rare species of bears and mountain goats, I believe.

Link Posted: 10/24/2010 2:35:55 PM EST
[#46]
Those "Japanese" looking soldiers are Russians mongolians.
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 2:37:33 PM EST
[#47]
well i cant believe no one has PS'd a pic of obama yet
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 2:39:44 PM EST
[#48]
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well i cant believe no one has PS'd a pic of obama yet


His uncle liberated Auschwitz, you know?
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 2:44:37 PM EST
[#49]
Ive been here too long- this thread has been here before. 5 yrs ago maybe?
Link Posted: 10/24/2010 2:44:58 PM EST
[#50]
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well i cant believe no one has PS'd a pic of obama yet


His uncle liberated Auschwitz, you know?
So zero is now rewriting history? how ignorant.

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