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Posted: 6/12/2003 4:05:23 AM EDT
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Two dead passengers remain in their seats, while Israeli forensics experts examine the scene of a bus explosion in downtown Jerusalem, Wednesday June 11, 2003. An explosion, apparently set off by a suicide bomber, ripped through a bus in downtown Jerusalem on Wednesday, killing at least thirteen passengers and wounding dozens, police said. (AP Photo/ Enric Marti)



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Booster rockets are seen as they fall back to Earth over the Florida coastline (Lower R), after separating from the Delta 2 rocket, in this image from a rocket-mounted video camera, June 10, 2003. NASA launched the first of two robotic rovers to Mars in an international quest to determine if life ever existed on the Red Planet. After two days of weather delays, the Mars Exploration Rover nicknamed 'Spirit' lifted off from Cape Canaveral, Florida, as part of an international fleet of probes sent to Mars. (NASA TV/Reuters)



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Palestinians drag a charred body from a car, following an Israeli air strike in Gaza city, Wednesday June 11, 2003. Witnesses said an Israeli Apache helicopter fired two missiles at a car stuck in a traffic jam in a crowded Gaza City neighborhood of Shijaiyah and then fired again after a group of people gathered around the stricken vehicle. The dead included members of Hamas' military wing, Tito Massoud, 35, and Soffil Abu Nahez, 29. Five other people were also killed. (AP Photo/Vadim Ghirda)



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A dead body hangs out the window of an exploded bus in downtown Jerusalem as a police officer gestures Wednesday June 11, 2003. A Palestinian suicide bomber disguised us an ultra-Orthodox Jew killed 16 Israelis in a Jerusalem bus attack Wednesday and less than an hour later, Israeli helicopters unleashed rockets over Gaza City, killing two Hamas fugitives and five bystanders.(AP Photo/ Oded Balilty)



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Democratic presidential candidate Rep. Richard Gephardt, left, receives a San Antonio Spurs T-shirt from Verna Blackwell during his visit to San Antonio on Wednesday, June 11, 2003. Gephardt also visited Austin, Texas. (AP Photo/Eric Gay)



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A 24-foot long representation of a screw is hoisted into position outside Federal Hall in New York's financial district on June 11, 2003 at a protest against a possible $500 million settlement between WorldCom Inc., the bankrupt long distance telephone company, and securities regulators. A hearing is scheduled in federal court in New York later in the day on WorldCom's tentative agreement to pay the record fine to settle a Securities and Exchange Commission  probe of one of the biggest accounting fraud cases in U.S. history. REUTERS/Peter Morgan



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First lady Laura Bush, observes a book of essays written by Anne Frank from the opening of 'Anne Frank the Writer: An Unfinished Story', a new exhibit at the Holocaust Museum, Wednesday, June 11, 2003, in Washington. In honor of the Holocaust Museum's 10th anniversary, the exhibit includes selections of Anne Frank's original writings never before seen outside of the Netherlands. (AP Photo/Lawrence Jackson)



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Fearing that the Israeli army will soon destroy the building, relatives and friends remove goods from the house of 18-year-old Hamas suicide bomber Abdel Madi Shabneh in the West Bank city of Hebron late Wednesday June 11, 2003. Disguised as an ultra-Orthodox Jew, Shabneh killed at least 16 Israelis in a Jerusalem bus attack Wednesday and less than an hour later, Israeli helicopters unleashed rockets over Gaza City, killing two Hamas fugitives and five bystanders. (AP Photo/Nasser Shiyoukhi)



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U.S. Army's SSG Dale Hall of Jackson, Michigan. , left, and SPC Clark Aberle of Souixfalls, S.D., stand guard outside of the Palestine and Sheraton Hotels as Iraqi street children sleep near to them in Baghdad, Iraq, early Wednesday morning, June 11, 2003. (AP Photo/Murad Sezer)
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 4:08:03 AM EDT
[#1]
Very moving pics today, Thanks Johnny.
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 4:28:51 AM EDT
[#2]
War, what is it good for.
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 4:32:00 AM EDT
[#3]
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 4:35:15 AM EDT
[#4]
I think I would leave Tel Aviv or Jerusalem.
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 4:42:09 AM EDT
[#5]
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I think I would leave Tel Aviv or Jerusalem.
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This would probably be a good idea.
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 4:45:54 AM EDT
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[b]That's a man, baby![/b]
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 5:11:03 AM EDT
[#7]
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Question: If you lived in Tel Aviv, or Jerusalem, would you continue to ride the bus?
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I was thinking about that yesterday.  Would you want to be a bus driver in Israel?  I know they have a few openings.

Link Posted: 6/12/2003 5:28:53 AM EDT
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These people ARE at war. It just keeps slowly escalating.

It won't be long now before it's full blown.
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 5:32:11 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/12/2003 5:35:01 AM EDT
[#10]
Thanks Johnny.
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 5:56:39 AM EDT
[#11]
SAD...downright sad....

Poor fu#kin kids....
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 6:22:31 AM EDT
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First lady Laura Bush, observes a book of essays written by Anne Frank from the opening of 'Anne Frank the Writer: An Unfinished Story', a new exhibit at the Holocaust Museum, Wednesday, June 11, 2003, in Washington. In honor of the Holocaust Museum's 10th anniversary, the exhibit includes selections of Anne Frank's original writings never before seen outside of the Netherlands. (AP Photo/Lawrence Jackson)
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[url]http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/tmotsm/A2.html[/url]

Most Americans have read the book or seen the movie version, deeply moved by the real life drama it claims to present. But have we been misled in the belief that Anne Frank actually wrote this diary? And if so, should an author be permitted to produce a work of fiction and sell it to the world as fact, particularly one of such tremendous emotional appeal?

Myths Die Hard

More than five years ago the Swedish journal Fria Ord published two articles commenting on The Diary Of Anne Frank. A condensation of these articles appeared in the April 15, 1959 issue of Economic Council Letter, as follows:

History has many examples of myths that live a longer and richer life than truth, and may become more effective than truth.

The Western World has for some years been made aware of a Jewish girl through the medium of what purports to be her personally written story, "Anne Frank's Diary." Any informed literary inspection of this book would have shown it to have been impossible as the work of a teenager.

A noteworthy decision of the New York Supreme Court confirms this point of view, in that the well known American Jewish writer, Meyer Levin, has been awarded $50,000 to be paid him by the father of Anne Frank as an honorarium for Levin's work on the "Anne Frank Diary."

Mr. Frank, in Switzerland, has promised to pay to his race-kin, Meyer Levin, not less than $50,000 because he had used the dialogue of Author Levin just as it was and "implanted" it in the diary as being his daughter's intellectual work.
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Link Posted: 6/12/2003 6:33:30 AM EDT
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The words "race-kin" in the "myths die hard" section raise my hackles.  Sounds like the sort of thing a pseudo-intellectual racist, or more precisely, a racist trying to sound intellectual, might say. Because of that, I completely discount the information presented as corrupted by it's presenter.

I can't stand racists, they are no better than the asshole terrorists in Hamas, Al Queda, Taliban, the Islamic Revolutionary Army, or whoever else.  


Link Posted: 6/12/2003 6:45:20 AM EDT
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War, what is it good for.
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Ab-sol-lutely nuthin'.


ByteTheBullet  (-:
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 6:54:39 AM EDT
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These people ARE at war. It just keeps slowly escalating.

It won't be long now before it's full blown.
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Then why don't they just "get it on" and have it out?  Think we can convince the other idiot states in the area to keep their nose out??

Link Posted: 6/12/2003 7:00:38 AM EDT
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First lady Laura Bush, observes a book of essays written by Anne Frank from the opening of 'Anne Frank the Writer: An Unfinished Story', a new exhibit at the Holocaust Museum, Wednesday, June 11, 2003, in Washington. In honor of the Holocaust Museum's 10th anniversary, the exhibit includes selections of Anne Frank's original writings never before seen outside of the Netherlands. (AP Photo/Lawrence Jackson)
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[url]http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/tmotsm/A2.html[/url]

Most Americans have read the book or seen the movie version, deeply moved by the real life drama it claims to present. But have we been misled in the belief that Anne Frank actually wrote this diary? And if so, should an author be permitted to produce a work of fiction and sell it to the world as fact, particularly one of such tremendous emotional appeal?

Myths Die Hard

More than five years ago the Swedish journal Fria Ord published two articles commenting on The Diary Of Anne Frank. A condensation of these articles appeared in the April 15, 1959 issue of Economic Council Letter, as follows:

History has many examples of myths that live a longer and richer life than truth, and may become more effective than truth.

The Western World has for some years been made aware of a Jewish girl through the medium of what purports to be her personally written story, "Anne Frank's Diary." Any informed literary inspection of this book would have shown it to have been impossible as the work of a teenager.

A noteworthy decision of the New York Supreme Court confirms this point of view, in that the well known American Jewish writer, Meyer Levin, has been awarded $50,000 to be paid him by the father of Anne Frank as an honorarium for Levin's work on the "Anne Frank Diary."

Mr. Frank, in Switzerland, has promised to pay to his race-kin, Meyer Levin, not less than $50,000 because he had used the dialogue of Author Levin just as it was and "implanted" it in the diary as being his daughter's intellectual work.
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Um,...yeah, okay.

[rolleyes]
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 7:36:21 AM EDT
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First thought was dead kids in front of tank, only sleeping...
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 6:14:34 PM EDT
[#18]
Bump for the late night crowd.
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 6:31:23 PM EDT
[#19]
How could they get anyone to drive or ride a fucking bus in israel?  Jesus christ they need to vaporize those palastinian scumbags!
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 10:20:19 PM EDT
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War, what is it good for.
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Ab-sol-lutely nuthin'.


ByteTheBullet  (-:
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Say it again!

Dave
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