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Posted: 12/22/2005 8:02:20 AM EDT
Since I'm in Kuwait, I thought I'd pick one up while I was here(Merry Christmas to me!!!)...this is what I got:

It's a Nain(region in Iran where it was made)...all hand-knotted...it's 150 cm by 263 cm(about 5'x8')...it's made from wool and silk...the red is actually brighter than it shows in the picture, Nain's with bright red aren't as common as ones with burgundy or navy blue...

Here's some pictures, but they really don't do it justice...the detail on it is amazing, it probably took about 1500 to 1700 man-hours to make it...









I'm probably going to get one or two more while I'm here...these could become as addictive as "Black Rifle Disease"...
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 8:04:59 AM EDT
How much does one of those run?
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 8:05:42 AM EDT
BEAUTIFUL!!!!!
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 8:05:49 AM EDT
How much, in US$, to have such a rug shipped stateside?

Or better yet, how much for larger sizes, such as 8'x11' or 10'x13'?



Link Posted: 12/22/2005 8:06:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By arowneragain:
How much, in US$, to have such a rug shipped stateside?

Or better yet, how much for larger sizes, such as 8'x11' or 10'x13'?






+1 ... that rug looks great.
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 8:07:21 AM EDT
There are rules for dinner pics. What about carpet pics?

Thats nice!
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 8:07:25 AM EDT
The one I was looking at in Qatar was $3k, so I decided they were too much for me. It was all silk.
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 8:10:20 AM EDT
How much for one that can fly? Did you happen to check the price on magic lamps?
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 8:20:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/22/2005 8:21:21 AM EDT by sgtstinger]
I paid 300 Kuwaiti Dinars = about $1025 U.S. Dollars at the current exchange rate.

I'm sure it's worth more(maybe much more!) than what I gave for it over here.

I'm going to be able to ship it home for probably about $50 - $60.

I plan on picking up one or two more while I'm over here.

Price depends on size, quality, level of detail, materials used, and where it was made...many variables. Nain's(what mine is...) are recognized as among some of the finest carpets in the world.
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 8:39:30 AM EDT
That thing really ties the room together
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 8:41:14 AM EDT
What amazed me when I was over there was the amount of trade between Iran and Kuwait. I guess money really does do all the talking while BS walks.
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 8:49:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/22/2005 8:49:37 AM EDT by doorgunner84]
they're even cheaper in Afghanistan... Well, they were when I was over there in '03. I just got back from Kandahar a few weeks ago and prices have gone up. which I knew they would. In '03 the Officers didn't seem to get the whole bargaining thing and would pay a higher price then the E's. We always gave then shit and said they were going to drive up prices! Sure enough, go back two years later and I can't buy half the shit I did two years earlier.

~Dg84

EDT: Nice rug by the way!
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 8:56:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By doorgunner84:
they're even cheaper in Afghanistan... Well, they were when I was over there in '03. I just got back from Kandahar a few weeks ago and prices have gone up. which I knew they would. In '03 the Officers didn't seem to get the whole bargaining thing and would pay a higher price then the E's. We always gave then shit and said they were going to drive up prices! Sure enough, go back two years later and I can't buy half the shit I did two years earlier.

~Dg84

EDT: Nice rug by the way!


That's why the smart O's bring their smooth-talking E's, like I did.
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 9:00:38 AM EDT
Group Buy???

I'm in for at least 1
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 9:01:46 AM EDT
man, that rug'll bring a good penny back in conus!!!
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 9:09:52 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:
How much does one of those run?



They shouldn't run at all if they're properly made.
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 9:12:16 AM EDT
I'll bet the rug is worth $3k in the US.

It's very sweet!!!
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 9:14:59 AM EDT
For God sakes, whatever you go... DON'T STARE INTO ITS EVIL EYES!! You'll be a

turban-toting Camel-Jockey before you know it. I'm sorry, my friend, but you're already dead.

- The Kool-Aid (LCA ts1337)
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 9:17:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By dport:
That's why the smart O's bring their smooth-talking E's, like I did.



I worked a lot of deals for our pilots. When I was over in '03 I got to know one shop keeper and would drink tea with him and shoot the shit with him. Could not believe the dude remembered me when I went back this time. It was cool but kinda creepy. Anyway, I really enjoyed shopping over there. My car buy skills increased 10 fold upon my return.

~Dg84
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 9:21:09 AM EDT
is it legal to ship back to the states,due to being a iranian product?
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 9:25:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By hanau:
is it legal to ship back to the states,due to being a iranian product?


Iranians dont have laws making them put a "made in persia" tag on it. It could be made anywhere in the eyes of customs.
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 11:37:28 AM EDT
I also looked at a Kashan(again, named after the city/area where it's made in Iran...) of the same size.

It had less KPSI(knots per square inch)in the weaving so it didn't have as much detail to the designs(and fewer designs, too) on it, this meant less man-hours of labor to make it. It was also made with only wool, which is cheaper than silk.

All this meant it was only half the price of the Nain I bought.

Man these could REALLY become addictive...

Link Posted: 12/22/2005 11:45:07 AM EDT
way too much money...
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 2:09:45 PM EDT
That is one georgous rug! Congrats!

I've always admired Persian rugs. But I'm going to have to win Powerball before I can afford one.
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 2:35:24 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 4:37:20 PM EDT
Last time I heard anything, if you declare it for under US$500, they'll let it through without import duties. But if they make an issue of it, you might lose it entirely.

Good luck, looks like a beautiful rug.
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 8:03:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/22/2005 8:07:02 PM EDT by sgtstinger]

Originally Posted By CbtEngr1:
way too much money...



Hmmm...buy several, keep the best one or two for myself, and sell the rest back state-side for a nice profit...(a friend picked up a couple in Afghanistan for $600 each...turned around and sold one for nearly $8000 when he got it home...)

Use the proceeds to set myself up with LASIK surgery and maybe a nice AR-10...

Think outside the box, man...
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 8:11:10 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/23/2005 8:19:32 AM EDT
bee-tee-tee
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 8:21:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/23/2005 8:23:46 AM EDT by AMZ]
I sell those for about $800 - $1000. , everyday.

It is my business.

www.amirrugexchange.com

I also do free appraisals for our guys and gals in the service, who got the rugs while in the middle east.

Link Posted: 12/23/2005 9:45:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SMProud:
That thing really ties the room together





j/k
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 10:30:39 AM EDT
Nice. Uneven/irregular knots in the back?

It is lawful to import Iranian carpets - law changed in 2000:
http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/import/commercial_enforcement/iranian_embargo_regs.xml

Link Posted: 12/23/2005 10:34:27 AM EDT
Nice, neat, even knots in back...

The folks who made this one knew what they were doing...
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 10:54:55 AM EDT
Their political dictators and their religion may be (are) awful, but some of the stuff that comes out of Iran is incredible. These Persian rugs are made by basically slave labor in that the weavers get barely any money for making one. The experienced ones can do this with their eyes closed. When you look at the patterns and detail in one of these rugs, even a small one, it's amazing to think about the skill it takes to make one.

Nice rug, and good idea about buying several and selling them for a profit here.

My parents have two rugs about 4X7 that have a combined value of $6K+ and my brother has one about the same size that's worth $3K+ - his has lots of detail. Good investments but really if you have one or two it's better just to keep them (of course, don't spill anything on them).
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 12:36:04 PM EDT
All the ones I saw over there cost as much as a Persian rug does here in the States.


Does it fly?
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