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Posted: 5/19/2005 4:11:14 AM EDT
She's an immigrant who got rich in America, but thinks we suck. Go to the Pepsi website to see her letter about her commencement speech at Columbia University.
http://www.pepsico.com/ She's backtracking now, but her contempt for Americans is obvious. Nothing but coke for me from now on. |
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www.pepsico.com/msgfromindra.shtml
Actual speech here... www.pepsico.com/Speech-ColumbiaBusinessSchool.pdf |
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"Uh, I aint drinking pepsi no more because of what some guy on ar15.com told me..so there"
Is there any other info? |
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The whole bloody company is run by woman. Got a chance to really fuck them in court over some property they owned and wanted to develop next my lot. It was a real pleasure.
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If you have no idea what this thread is talking about, read this
powerlineblog.com/archives/010478.php |
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Stupid bitch
She says that in a speech, and is clueless as to why there's a backlash. |
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Did you actually READ her remarks? She was right on the mark . |
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That was a really disingenuous apology. "The middle finger is the one that anchors the hand, just as America anchors the world" A first-hand (heh) report of the speech noted Finally, the US (not Canada mind you) - yes, you guessed it - the middle finger. She then launched into a diatribe about how the US is seen as the middle finger to the rest of the world. The rest of the world sees us as an overbearing, insensitive and disrespectful nation that gives the middle finger to the rest of the world. According to Ms. Nooyi, we cause the other finger nations to cower under our presence. But it is our responsibility, she continues, to change the current state of world opinion of the US. It is our responsibility to make the other fingers rise in unison with us as we move forward. She then goes on to give a personal anecdote about some disrespectful US business women in an Asian country and how that is typical of Americans overseas. No talk of what the US has done for the world throughout its history. No discussion about the ills that have been cured and the rights that have been wronged by the US. Just how wrong we are for the way we are perceived and how right they are in their own perceptions of the United States. |
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Anybody bother to read the speech without first taking the attitude that "arfcom says it's unpatriotic, so do I"? I dont see much of anything in there that says "F*** the US." I do see an admonition to future American Businessmen to be careful of how their actions represent their country. Yeah...so she used the middle finger analogy...but is it not true that the middle finger can mean different things depending on how its used? Thats what she said, isnt it?
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I'd be proud to show her my middle finger, as a sign of disrespect to her..... |
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She posted her own remarks, which I am sure were cleaned up, here are the important parts:
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No, the middle finger pretty much means "F you" And that's it. And she said America CAUSES other nations to fling the bird at us. She also said its our duty to change other nations opinions of us. How? BY thanking them for flying planes into our buildings?? By NOT stopping tyrants like Hitler, and Stalin? Geez, newb. Reading is FUNdamental. So is thinking. |
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In this country. She explained why she assigned that finger to the US. People need to stop reading into this
Often we do. She gave one example.
It is.
Maybe by relaizing that just because we do things one way, that doesn't give us the right to belittle other ways of doing things? More Americans need to travel abroad and open their minds to other cultures, for one thing.
Please practice your own advice |
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Not much of a businessman, are ya G-man? Image is everything...whether it be international trade, or within a nation...which is why, incidentally, the president of pepsi (a business) is now trying to salvage the results of misinterpretation of her speech. We're not the sweethearts of the world community right now...no doubt. That doesnt mean we have to take a righteous attitude and say we can project any image we want...and then expect the other nations (even the ones who didnt fly planes into our bldgs) to view us with mutual respect. Hence her example of the businesspeople in Beijing.
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I read the whole speech and her BOLD FACE lie of an explanation. Fuck her.
I dont drink that crap anyways but I
No more pepsi or related company products at my house.. ETA : e-mail sent to [email protected] .. |
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Never drank Pepsi except for the 'Taste Test' for some members who will remember that.... Just confirmed my suspicion that it tasted like shit. |
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All we've ever asked of other nations is a place to bury our dead after freeing them from the dictator du jour who was raping their country. If sending our young men to die for them isn't a sufficient sign of respect, then I'm guessing the problem is THEIRS - not ours. Mutual respect ? MUTUAL RESPECT??? Its about #^$% time they show US some respect. |
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Vote with your wallet!
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It still makes her a traitor in my book. Talking shit about the US just to placate foreign consumers. |
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We didn't make those efforts alone. Lots of other countries lost lots of people fighting in those and other conflicts, and it doesn't make us automatically right in our current dealings with these countries today. Americans without a doubt need to learn some cultural sensitivity when dealing with cultures and societal values not our own. |
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Treason is so hip and vogue these days, even with many Arfcom posters. They are the "enlightened" and "progressive" ones, and we America firsters the prehistoric creatures with the enlarged foreheads. |
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"THere is no greater love than this - that a man would lay down his life for his friend." America has gone FAR above and beyond "cultural sensitivity" WE'VE GIVEN OUR LIVES. And if you think the liberation of Europe from Hitler or the liberation of Iraq from Saddam (or ANY other of the recent liberations from the dictator du jour) would have happenned without the US, then yer hopeless. The people who hate us are the ONES WE KICKED IN THE NUTS. And you are siding with them in your twisted logic. Don't your "get" that??? Its WHY they hate us, genius. I don't care to befriend the people who want us dead. They will NEVER like us. |
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Nothing like using somebody else's milestone event as a stage to push your own BS agenda. What a tird.
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People hate us because we are the dominant world power. People have always lashed out at dominant world powers. It is nothing unique to us as a country. |
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I poo on pepsi. I actually like Sierra Mist over Sprite though.
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that's about the stupidest "speech" I've ever heard...an 8th grade class president could probably write a better one. To call it unpatriotic, though is pretty silly, imho.
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Correct. And the ONLY way to make those scum stop hating us is to intentionally lower ourselves and make ourselves vulnerable. I have NO INTENTION of doing that just so they will like us. Screw them. Unfortunately for ALOT of other good people throughout the world, the good people don't clean up their own messes, and the people who hate us because we're a good and just and kind and benevolent and yes powerful nation get in power again and then more American boys gotta go die for them. And once again all we ask is a place to bury our dead. So screw other nations who don't like us. If there is any debt of showing respect, its in what is OWED us. |
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People hate us because we are the dominant world power. People have always lashed out at dominant world powers. It is nothing unique to us as a country. That doesn't make it right. |
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Respecting other cultures does not make the US vulnerable
Just out of curiosity, when do you consider that debt paid so the rest of the world can stop being beat over the head with that? |
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Well, since were dying for them RIGHT NOW, I'd say "not yet." |
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Someone needs to bitch slap that woman back to India. How in the fuck did she ever get to be boss hog at Pepsi? To hell with Pepsi! Long live Coca Cola!
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Fuck that bitch. I don't drink that shit anyway, so she can kiss my AMERICAN browneye!
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Well seeing as most countries like France or Germany would never do anything violent to us a la 9/11, I feel safe saying most ARFCOMers believe arabs to be our greatest danger. I think they hate us mostly because we station troops in their holy lands. |
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Actually excellent analogy however I disagree with the whole hand concept and feel we should give the whole world the finger!
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I have a certain amount of cynicism that our people there now are dying less for the admirable purpose of bringing freedom to an oppressed people like the WW2 guys did and more that our purpose there is simply to further the national interests of the United States.I support our Soldiers while they are in harms way, but I do not believe that our national purpose there is every bit the noble freedom-loving cause our leadership says its about. |
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Dude the 'hand concept' was the analogy!!! While the body of her speech may have had some merit, her use of the 'hand' analogy was very telling as to her true sentiments of the U.S..... |
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Yeah, shame on us for advancing national interests like "Keepin them from flying planes into our buildings." How selfish and nefarious of us. You are SOO transparent. You distrust Bush BECAUSE he takes moral stands on issues of moral values. I know your type. Conspiracy theorist extroadinaire - like we're after the oil or some such silliness. But your distrust is based on a moral dislike of Bush's stances. You are SOOO obvious. |
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It is obvious to me what she was saying and it was clearly disrespectful to the US.
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The first priority in business is to make your customers feel comfortable and unintimidated. This, not political concern, is the basis for her speech, or it should have been.
In terms of national foreign policy: Nations and societies are always trying to gain an advantage over one another. It's the nature of man to want to be on top. Hence the purpose for our own Second Amendment is to protect us from overbearing, tyrannical types. As RWR said, "We will negotiate from a position of strength." In terms of individual relations: As an American who periodically travels outside the country on business, I will say that respecting the local customs goes a very long way in making a relationship productive. Simple things like knowing some of the language will quickly gain you pride points with people and they'll be ready to work with you. Nobody likes an asshole. It's important to note these two distinctions. Large groups of people behave nothing like individuals. |
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I sent the link for the speech to a coworker who can't bend the middle finger on his left hand due to smashing the joint a while back.
I told him to look at his finger as a patriotic statement. |
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Was Iraq flying airplanes into our buildings? No? Next question.
I distrust Bush because he caters to the religious right, who I don't trust. I have no doubt that we ARE there ultimately for the oil, to establish and keep a base of operations in the area that is friendly to us , etc. |
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