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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:23:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:23:48 PM EDT
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Go unions!!!
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:25:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Go unions!!! Wages have lagged inflation and productivity for decades. If the railroads won't fix that, it's their funeral. Skilled labor is in heavy, heavy demand elsewhere. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:25:39 PM EDT
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okay. I come from a railroad family, every one has worked on the railroad since my great grandfather including me and 5 of my 7 brothers.
Cripple this shitshow, I want to watch the world burn |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:27:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Go unions!!! Yeah I am not a huge fan of unions... but the unions in the railroad are straight up fucking retarded with no back bone. I bet our union will roll over and take it at the PEB if they offer 1 sick day a year and 14% raise over 5 years because it was "more than what the carriers offered" Yeah 9 years with this job ... I only get 10 days of vacation and no sick days. Then go 2-4 years without a raise. On top of that I am on the road 80% of my life. All for 29.85 an hour lol. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:29:49 PM EDT
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Gov will let it last about two days (max).
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:30:47 PM EDT
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Federal intervention will not allow a strike to occur. If it goes that far.
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:32:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Federal intervention will not allow a strike to occur. If it goes that far. RLA is the federal intervention. After 90 days by law we are able to strike if either parties disagree with what the government suggests. Yeah there are some by laws I am sure the government can come up with.. but believe me a strike is very possible but likely will only last a day or two because the president will just create an emergency executive order |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:33:01 PM EDT
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I'm just amazed that the railroads are even still in business.
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:34:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah 9 years with this job ... I only get 10 days of vacation and no sick days. Then go 2-4 years without a raise. On top of that I am on the road 80% of my life. All for 29.85 an hour lol. That is utter crap. Didn’t they just try to strike over a new (terrible) vacation policy not long ago and couldn’t? Union Pacific maybe? Forget… |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:35:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Federal intervention will not allow a strike to occur. If it goes that far. The government that has declared war on Americans? That one? Don't bet the farm on that. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:35:38 PM EDT
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Atlas Shrugged wasn't prophecy, but she had the players in the destruction nailed.
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:37:36 PM EDT
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I'm down, but it won't last a day.
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:38:44 PM EDT
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Lol will never happen, Biden will overrule any strike in any scenerio where the unions don't just roll over on their members like they always do. Unions will probably bargain for less that the railroad offering when that happens too.
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:39:07 PM EDT
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Who cares….. Just more fear mongering to keep the uneasiness cycle alive and well.
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:39:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah I am not a huge fan of unions... but the unions in the railroad are straight up fucking retarded with no back bone. I bet our union will roll over and take it at the PEB if they offer 1 sick day a year and 14% raise over 5 years because it was "more than what the carriers offered" Yeah 9 years with this job ... I only get 10 days of vacation and no sick days. Then go 2-4 years without a raise. On top of that I am on the road 80% of my life. All for 29.85 an hour lol. Oh wait no, I didn't. Don't like it find another job. Nobody or no corporation owes you anything. Don't like it then leave. Don't want to leave then suck it up and do the job. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:42:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Gov will let it last about two days (max). They'd let it go on a lot longer than that. The only thing stopping them from doing it is if they think it would hurt their election chances. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:42:40 PM EDT
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Frank Wilner is a company shill. There won't be a strike lasting more than a few hours... if that. They offered 11% initially and then raised that to 14% a couple months ago. Just like when they judge in Texas that was worried about the supply chain didn't allow us to strike and set in motion events that will actually make it worse by allowing a new availability policy. If we don't end up with 25 - 30% at least there are going to be even more employees walking. There are a ton of current employees waiting to see what the contract brings. They're tired of being told how important they are to the supply chain. Then seeing how every railroad is making record profits year after year while being expected to take working condition changes and wage increases below inflation. It's a dumpster fire and only getting worse day by day here.
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:43:56 PM EDT
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Quoted: The railroad union coalition comprised of all unions representing all crafts of class 1 railroads were released from mediation today to start the 90 day process for a lock out or strike. We have been in negotiations since 2020... the carriers will not come close to meeting what we want. They offered a 14% raise over a 5 year period starting in 2020. We are asking for 40% over a 5 year period starting 2020 (Maintenance of Way that is... TYE and other crafts are asking for similar wage increases). Get ready guys.. if there is a strike it probably wont last long.. a day or two. But if it goes longer than a week this economy is fucked. https://www.railwayage.com/regulatory/nmb-starts-clock-toward-rail-shutdown/ I'm lucky if I get a 2% raise and I'm an IT Engineer and not a choo-choo engineer. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:44:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah I am not a huge fan of unions... but the unions in the railroad are straight up fucking retarded with no back bone. I bet our union will roll over and take it at the PEB if they offer 1 sick day a year and 14% raise over 5 years because it was "more than what the carriers offered" Yeah 9 years with this job ... I only get 10 days of vacation and no sick days. Then go 2-4 years without a raise. On top of that I am on the road 80% of my life. All for 29.85 an hour lol. The fuck? Don’t they pay boxes of rocks more than that? Please tell me you’re labor, if you’re a skilled trade, you’re getting buttfucked. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:44:23 PM EDT
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It's happening!
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:44:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm just amazed that the railroads are even still in business. Only by virtue of them inherently being very efficient and monopolies in most cases. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:44:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm just amazed that the railroads are even still in business. Lol Eventually you'll get to see the inside of one |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:46:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Federal intervention will not allow a strike to occur. If it goes that far. I'm not sure how that will work absent dragging people to work at gunpoint. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:47:18 PM EDT
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Quoted: The railroad union coalition comprised of all unions representing all crafts of class 1 railroads were released from mediation today to start the 90 day process for a lock out or strike. We have been in negotiations since 2020... the carriers will not come close to meeting what we want. They offered a 14% raise over a 5 year period starting in 2020. We are asking for 40% over a 5 year period starting 2020 (Maintenance of Way that is... TYE and other crafts are asking for similar wage increases). Get ready guys.. if there is a strike it probably wont last long.. a day or two. But if it goes longer than a week this economy is fucked. https://www.railwayage.com/regulatory/nmb-starts-clock-toward-rail-shutdown/ Fuck’em! Federalize it like WWII! |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:47:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 40% raise? WTF? I'm lucky if I get a 2% raise and I'm an IT Engineer and not a choo-choo engineer. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The railroad union coalition comprised of all unions representing all crafts of class 1 railroads were released from mediation today to start the 90 day process for a lock out or strike. We have been in negotiations since 2020... the carriers will not come close to meeting what we want. They offered a 14% raise over a 5 year period starting in 2020. We are asking for 40% over a 5 year period starting 2020 (Maintenance of Way that is... TYE and other crafts are asking for similar wage increases). Get ready guys.. if there is a strike it probably wont last long.. a day or two. But if it goes longer than a week this economy is fucked. https://www.railwayage.com/regulatory/nmb-starts-clock-toward-rail-shutdown/ I'm lucky if I get a 2% raise and I'm an IT Engineer and not a choo-choo engineer. Over 5 years? When other semi skilled trades with regular hours are seeing similar raises and the companies in question are literally printing money right now? 40% is high but even 14% over 5 years starting in 2020 isn't going to cut it. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:48:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Atlas Shrugged wasn't prophecy, but she had the players in the destruction nailed. This |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:49:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Atlas Shrugged wasn't prophecy, but she had the players in the destruction nailed. This Katie Farmer is no Dagny Taggart lol |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:50:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Go unions!!! You don’t think people should be able to keep up with inflation?  Do you even believe in Inflation, or are you another one of those meathead deniers? |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:50:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah 9 years with this job ... I only get 10 days of vacation and no sick days. Then go 2-4 years without a raise. On top of that I am on the road 80% of my life. All for 29.85 an hour lol. Three years ago, $61k/year with benefits would have been considered a very decent job. Now it isn’t shut. Isn’t it amazing how fast that has changed??? |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:51:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: okay. I come from a railroad family, every one has worked on the railroad since my great grandfather including me and 5 of my 7 brothers. Cripple this shitshow, I want to watch the world burn You peeps picked a helluva time to make a stand. Too bad there wasn't any testicular fortitude before we hit critical mass. Thanks for being brave now 
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:52:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who cares.. Just more fear mongering to keep the uneasiness cycle alive and well. Someone is going to quote this and tell me that it's still coming and I am going to starve to death later this year. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:52:21 PM EDT
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I didn't realized how horribly underpaid some of the RR guys were until I had to hire a flagger to do work near the tracks. I was expecting to get raped but then I found out that they made $12.5/hr; then I was distraught. Great, now I have day laborer looking out for my crew.
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:52:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm just amazed that the railroads are even still in business. The brainpower behind some of these comments is stunning. Railroads are the cheapest and most efficient way to move freight. When you don’t have big bodies of water nearby. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:52:55 PM EDT
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40%
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:52:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The fuck? Don’t they pay boxes of rocks more than that? Please tell me you’re labor, if you’re a skilled trade, you’re getting buttfucked. Im a track welder... Not many jobs close to where I live that pay decent for welding. Thought about opening up my own fabricating shop... who knows maybe I will once we get fucked on the contract. Take the back pay and use it towards the business |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:53:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Katie Farmer is no Dagny Taggart lol Wrong team. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:53:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah 9 years with this job ... I only get 10 days of vacation and no sick days. Then go 2-4 years without a raise. On top of that I am on the road 80% of my life. All for 29.85 an hour lol. Did you know this stuff when ya got hired? |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:54:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not sure how that will work absent dragging people to work at gunpoint. National Guard will be called in to run things... Not kidding |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:55:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wages have lagged inflation and productivity for decades. If the railroads won't fix that, it's their funeral. Skilled labor is in heavy, heavy demand elsewhere. Except if there is no rail service there won't be any jobs to go to. 40% raise is not a serious demand. It's extortion. No one forced anyone to work for the railroad. All unions should be disbanded and let the market dictate salaries and rates. Either you are for capitalism and free market or you are a communist. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:55:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah I am not a huge fan of unions... but the unions in the railroad are straight up fucking retarded with no back bone. I bet our union will roll over and take it at the PEB if they offer 1 sick day a year and 14% raise over 5 years because it was "more than what the carriers offered" Yeah 9 years with this job ... I only get 10 days of vacation and no sick days. Then go 2-4 years without a raise. On top of that I am on the road 80% of my life. All for 29.85 an hour lol. Got plenty of apps for fire fighting and law enforcement in our area....theyd take that over what yourr talking about |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:56:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe I missed the part where they are forcing you to work there? Oh wait no, I didn't. Don't like it find another job. Nobody or no corporation owes you anything. Don't like it then leave. Don't want to leave then suck it up and do the job. You would be the perfect fit for railroad management. Pay them pennies to be responsible for multi million dollar shipments and the safety of communities surrounding the tracks, oh and also absolutely no family life or regular rest patterns for your employment duration! |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:58:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 40% raise? WTF? I'm lucky if I get a 2% raise and I'm an IT Engineer and not a choo-choo engineer. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The railroad union coalition comprised of all unions representing all crafts of class 1 railroads were released from mediation today to start the 90 day process for a lock out or strike. We have been in negotiations since 2020... the carriers will not come close to meeting what we want. They offered a 14% raise over a 5 year period starting in 2020. We are asking for 40% over a 5 year period starting 2020 (Maintenance of Way that is... TYE and other crafts are asking for similar wage increases). Get ready guys.. if there is a strike it probably wont last long.. a day or two. But if it goes longer than a week this economy is fucked. https://www.railwayage.com/regulatory/nmb-starts-clock-toward-rail-shutdown/ I'm lucky if I get a 2% raise and I'm an IT Engineer and not a choo-choo engineer. oooh an IT engineer...wow...the importance of your position of pushing buttons and producing nothing must be weighty. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:58:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Except if there is no rail service there won't be any jobs to go to. 40% raise is not a serious demand. It's extortion. No one forced anyone to work for the railroad. All unions should be disbanded and let the market dictate salaries and rates. Either you are for capitalism and free market or you are a communist. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Wages have lagged inflation and productivity for decades. If the railroads won't fix that, it's their funeral. Skilled labor is in heavy, heavy demand elsewhere. Except if there is no rail service there won't be any jobs to go to. 40% raise is not a serious demand. It's extortion. No one forced anyone to work for the railroad. All unions should be disbanded and let the market dictate salaries and rates. Either you are for capitalism and free market or you are a communist. 8% per year inflation over 5 years is more than 40% |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:58:31 PM EDT
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for anyone wondering the last contract if I remember right that went through in 2018 gave us annual raises from 2016 to 2019. Was 3%, 3%, then 2%. That was the last raise we received.. in 2019.
40% over 5 years isn't asking a lot especially since we never received a raise during and post covid shut downs. 40% would bring most of the union's skilled labor wages up to par with other non railroad unions. Pretty sad a UPS delivery driver makes $41 an hour when the top MoW position pays 33 an hour (BNSF wages) At the end of the day the railroads always have been corrupt and greedy.. it will never change. Don't ever take a job with the railroad. I will be quitting in a year or two tops. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 7:00:07 PM EDT
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warren buffet will never let this happen*
* unless he's already figured out a way to use it as leverage to take over someone else's company for pennies on the dollar |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 7:00:43 PM EDT
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Sciopero
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Posted: 6/14/2022 7:02:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah I am not a huge fan of unions... but the unions in the railroad are straight up fucking retarded with no back bone. I bet our union will roll over and take it at the PEB if they offer 1 sick day a year and 14% raise over 5 years because it was "more than what the carriers offered" Yeah 9 years with this job ... I only get 10 days of vacation and no sick days. Then go 2-4 years without a raise. On top of that I am on the road 80% of my life. All for 29.85 an hour lol. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Go unions!!! Yeah I am not a huge fan of unions... but the unions in the railroad are straight up fucking retarded with no back bone. I bet our union will roll over and take it at the PEB if they offer 1 sick day a year and 14% raise over 5 years because it was "more than what the carriers offered" Yeah 9 years with this job ... I only get 10 days of vacation and no sick days. Then go 2-4 years without a raise. On top of that I am on the road 80% of my life. All for 29.85 an hour lol. Biden gonna put you all in chains.. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 7:02:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Go unions!!! GD: rugged individualism! also GD: i hate it when rugged individualists decide to work in a group to represent their collective interests! how dare they not suck the colluding corporations cock! if real inflation is 9% on average over 5 years you need a 53% raise to break even.
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Posted: 6/14/2022 7:04:14 PM EDT
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