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Posted: 12/16/2016 11:21:32 AM EDT
It's actually Desert Night Camo. See second from the left:
It was designed to withstand early NV, but yet here we are. |
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Posted: 12/16/2016 11:25:18 AM EDT
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Are those chocolate chips in the middle nods pic?
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Posted: 12/16/2016 11:25:49 AM EDT
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Are those chocolate chips in the middle nods pic? yes, lol, with dcu after it |
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Posted: 12/16/2016 11:27:12 AM EDT
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What patterns are all of those?
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Posted: 12/16/2016 11:28:25 AM EDT
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They worked well when they were up against PVS7s NVGs
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Posted: 12/16/2016 11:29:55 AM EDT
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What patterns are all of those? bdu, desert night, chocolate chip, dcu, and ucp |
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Posted: 12/16/2016 11:30:23 AM EDT
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looks like pj's.
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Posted: 12/16/2016 11:35:05 AM EDT
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Looks like my closet---->military uniform collector. Or, as Tweeter exclaimed when he saw it, my closet of "so much stolen valor!"
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Posted: 12/16/2016 11:38:46 AM EDT
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Still looks better than the rest. All the the others say "cammo"
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Posted: 12/16/2016 11:44:09 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/16/2016 11:56:01 AM EDT
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Wat?
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Posted: 12/16/2016 12:04:15 PM EDT
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It depends on the surrounding environment. Standing out in the open like that, sure, it's a dark blob. Sneaking through a forest full of shadows it's damn near invisible.
Multicam doesn't blend into a field full of honeysuckle either. |
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Posted: 12/16/2016 12:05:23 PM EDT
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I love ACU. Get a faded set and they work great in the high plains.
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Posted: 12/16/2016 12:10:56 PM EDT
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The DCU cammies issued as we were staging to go to Somalia were so new that we ended up with a mix of chocolate chip and DCU. After a month in the sun they all faded so bad, they were know as pastel pinks thereafter. The faded DCUs were noticeably less visible to the NVGs of the day compared to chocolate chips or woodland cammies. Starched up garrison cammies seemed to glow with any IR illumination.
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Posted: 12/16/2016 12:14:27 PM EDT
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My old NWU worked well like that laying in the grass in my backyard.
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Posted: 12/16/2016 12:32:28 PM EDT
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The DCU cammies issued as we were staging to go to Somalia were so new that we ended up with a mix of chocolate chip and DCU. After a month in the sun they all faded so bad, they were know as pastel pinks thereafter. The faded DCUs were noticeably less visible to the NVGs of the day compared to chocolate chips or woodland cammies. Starched up garrison cammies seemed to glow with any IR illumination. Starch makes clothes stand out with nvg's. When bdu's were issued to us in the early 80's we were told not to starch them . People did it anyway. |
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Posted: 12/16/2016 12:41:42 PM EDT
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I remember that shit. Despite the fact that it doesn't work for shit, I always thought it looked cool.
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Posted: 12/16/2016 12:58:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/16/2016 1:14:31 PM EDT
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I still have my night desert pants I got when I was on active duty back in the '90s. I don't really care about the night thing, they blend in great during the daytime in my area.
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Posted: 12/16/2016 1:40:21 PM EDT
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looks like pj's. Felt like them, too...they were pretty nice. |
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Posted: 12/16/2016 1:44:38 PM EDT
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The night desert parka was pretty warm with the liner in it while on guard mount in Saudi Arabia during Desert Shield.
I still have one with the liner for winter here. |
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Posted: 12/16/2016 1:44:39 PM EDT
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I love ACU. Get a faded set and they work great in the high plains. I never really got the hatred for UCP: it works OK in most natural settings but not so well in urban settings...just like MultiCam which was the "had to have" replacement. And for guys where were mounted in 15+ ton trucks. |
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Posted: 12/16/2016 2:11:18 PM EDT
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I never really got the hatred for UCP: it works OK in most natural settings but not so well in urban settings...just like MultiCam which was the "had to have" replacement. And for guys where were mounted in 15+ ton trucks. um... 
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Posted: 12/16/2016 6:11:00 PM EDT
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I never really got the hatred for UCP: it works OK in most natural settings but not so well in urban settings...just like MultiCam which was the "had to have" replacement. And for guys where were mounted in 15+ ton trucks. um... http://i43.tinypic.com/2qnqz69.jpg Put 'em in the desert or non-European green environment and um... UCP wasn't meant to be perfect anywhere, just acceptable almost everywhere...which it is. But the complaining by guys conducting mounted ops in 15 ton trucks about their "camouflage" led to MultiCam...which is pretty good in the right vegetation but not so good anywhere else (i.e. desert and urban). In other words, UCP is better in most places than MultiCam but one can always (as you did) find an example of where one works better and another one doesn't work as well. |
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Posted: 12/16/2016 6:12:59 PM EDT
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Put 'em in the desert or non-European green environment and um... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I never really got the hatred for UCP: it works OK in most natural settings but not so well in urban settings...just like MultiCam which was the "had to have" replacement. And for guys where were mounted in 15+ ton trucks. um... http://i43.tinypic.com/2qnqz69.jpg Put 'em in the desert or non-European green environment and um... Or put 'em in that gravel pit they're walking past. 
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Posted: 12/16/2016 6:17:08 PM EDT
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Or put 'em in that gravel pit they're walking past. <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_abused.gif border=0 align=middle> Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I never really got the hatred for UCP: it works OK in most natural settings but not so well in urban settings...just like MultiCam which was the "had to have" replacement. And for guys where were mounted in 15+ ton trucks. um... http://i43.tinypic.com/2qnqz69.jpg Put 'em in the desert or non-European green environment and um... Or put 'em in that gravel pit they're walking past. <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_abused.gif border=0 align=middle> Nice catch...UCP is definitely good in gravel, rocky outcroppings, etc. |
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Posted: 12/16/2016 6:18:50 PM EDT
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Put 'em in the desert or non-European green environment and um... UCP wasn't meant to be perfect anywhere, just acceptable almost everywhere...which it is. But the complaining by guys conducting mounted ops in 15 ton trucks about their "camouflage" led to MultiCam...which is pretty good in the right vegetation but not so good anywhere else (i.e. desert and urban). In other words, UCP is better in most places than MultiCam but one can always (as you did) find an example of where one works better and another one doesn't work as well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I never really got the hatred for UCP: it works OK in most natural settings but not so well in urban settings...just like MultiCam which was the "had to have" replacement. And for guys where were mounted in 15+ ton trucks. um... http://i43.tinypic.com/2qnqz69.jpg Put 'em in the desert or non-European green environment and um... UCP wasn't meant to be perfect anywhere, just acceptable almost everywhere...which it is. But the complaining by guys conducting mounted ops in 15 ton trucks about their "camouflage" led to MultiCam...which is pretty good in the right vegetation but not so good anywhere else (i.e. desert and urban). In other words, UCP is better in most places than MultiCam but one can always (as you did) find an example of where one works better and another one doesn't work as well. UCP has come in close to last in all of the Army camo trials. Which makes sense since it wasn't tested against any other patterns before it was fielded 
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Posted: 12/16/2016 6:22:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryIf he dove into that river rock just to the lower right of the pathway, he'd be nothing but a disembodied head and boots.
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Posted: 12/16/2016 6:39:16 PM EDT
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http://www.benning.army.mil/infantry/magazine/issues/2014/Jan-Mar/Eifler.html Prior to adoption of OCP The BDU was authorized for wear in SOF and at JWS.
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Posted: 12/16/2016 6:57:56 PM EDT
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Put 'em in the desert or non-European green environment and um... UCP wasn't meant to be perfect anywhere, just acceptable almost everywhere...which it is. But the complaining by guys conducting mounted ops in 15 ton trucks about their "camouflage" led to MultiCam...which is pretty good in the right vegetation but not so good anywhere else (i.e. desert and urban). In other words, UCP is better in most places than MultiCam but one can always (as you did) find an example of where one works better and another one doesn't work as well. LOL, nope. That shit is bad almost everywhere and the United States can spend 50 billion on aircraft, it can buy 3,4 or 5 different types of camo for our guys on the ground. That cost bullshit pisses me off. We shoot $200,000 missiles at fuckers riding bicycles. Don't tell me we cant have the best camo available for any terrain. |
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Posted: 12/16/2016 7:14:04 PM EDT
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Starch makes clothes stand out with nvg's. When bdu's were issued to us in the early 80's we were told not to starch them . People did it anyway. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The DCU cammies issued as we were staging to go to Somalia were so new that we ended up with a mix of chocolate chip and DCU. After a month in the sun they all faded so bad, they were know as pastel pinks thereafter. The faded DCUs were noticeably less visible to the NVGs of the day compared to chocolate chips or woodland cammies. Starched up garrison cammies seemed to glow with any IR illumination. Starch makes clothes stand out with nvg's. When bdu's were issued to us in the early 80's we were told not to starch them . People did it anyway. Important not to wash them with regular detergents with brighteners also. |
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Posted: 12/17/2016 9:24:27 AM EDT
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LOL, nope. That shit is bad almost everywhere and the United States can spend 50 billion on aircraft, it can buy 3,4 or 5 different types of camo for our guys on the ground. That cost bullshit pisses me off. We shoot $200,000 missiles at fuckers riding bicycles. Don't tell me we cant have the best camo available for any terrain. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Put 'em in the desert or non-European green environment and um... UCP wasn't meant to be perfect anywhere, just acceptable almost everywhere...which it is. But the complaining by guys conducting mounted ops in 15 ton trucks about their "camouflage" led to MultiCam...which is pretty good in the right vegetation but not so good anywhere else (i.e. desert and urban). In other words, UCP is better in most places than MultiCam but one can always (as you did) find an example of where one works better and another one doesn't work as well. LOL, nope. That shit is bad almost everywhere and the United States can spend 50 billion on aircraft, it can buy 3,4 or 5 different types of camo for our guys on the ground. That cost bullshit pisses me off. We shoot $200,000 missiles at fuckers riding bicycles. Don't tell me we cant have the best camo available for any terrain. I didn't say we couldn't, I said we don't (for whatever reason(s)). |
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Posted: 12/17/2016 9:26:25 AM EDT
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UCP has come in close to last in all of the Army camo trials. Which makes sense since it wasn't tested against any other patterns before it was fielded http://img68.xooimage.com/files/0/c/7/r-sultat-test-camo-2eca4d7.png Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I never really got the hatred for UCP: it works OK in most natural settings but not so well in urban settings...just like MultiCam which was the "had to have" replacement. And for guys where were mounted in 15+ ton trucks. um... http://i43.tinypic.com/2qnqz69.jpg Put 'em in the desert or non-European green environment and um... UCP wasn't meant to be perfect anywhere, just acceptable almost everywhere...which it is. But the complaining by guys conducting mounted ops in 15 ton trucks about their "camouflage" led to MultiCam...which is pretty good in the right vegetation but not so good anywhere else (i.e. desert and urban). In other words, UCP is better in most places than MultiCam but one can always (as you did) find an example of where one works better and another one doesn't work as well. UCP has come in close to last in all of the Army camo trials. Which makes sense since it wasn't tested against any other patterns before it was fielded http://img68.xooimage.com/files/0/c/7/r-sultat-test-camo-2eca4d7.png Take a close look at your chart and some of the results...and tell me you believe it. You can believe what you'd like to believe...I believe what I've seen IRL. |
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Posted: 12/17/2016 9:41:27 AM EDT
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I still like my woodland cammies the best, work well here in the piney woods anyhow.
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Posted: 12/17/2016 9:59:33 AM EDT
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UCP is bad, but not as bad as Aquaflage.
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Posted: 12/17/2016 10:01:27 AM EDT
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UCP has come in close to last in all of the Army camo trials. Which makes sense since it wasn't tested against any other patterns before it was fielded http://img68.xooimage.com/files/0/c/7/r-sultat-test-camo-2eca4d7.png lol they tested Mossy Oak? |
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Posted: 12/17/2016 11:27:30 AM EDT
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Take a close look at your chart and some of the results...and tell me you believe it. You can believe what you'd like to believe...I believe what I've seen IRL. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I never really got the hatred for UCP: it works OK in most natural settings but not so well in urban settings...just like MultiCam which was the "had to have" replacement. And for guys where were mounted in 15+ ton trucks. um... http://i43.tinypic.com/2qnqz69.jpg Put 'em in the desert or non-European green environment and um... UCP wasn't meant to be perfect anywhere, just acceptable almost everywhere...which it is. But the complaining by guys conducting mounted ops in 15 ton trucks about their "camouflage" led to MultiCam...which is pretty good in the right vegetation but not so good anywhere else (i.e. desert and urban). In other words, UCP is better in most places than MultiCam but one can always (as you did) find an example of where one works better and another one doesn't work as well. UCP has come in close to last in all of the Army camo trials. Which makes sense since it wasn't tested against any other patterns before it was fielded http://img68.xooimage.com/files/0/c/7/r-sultat-test-camo-2eca4d7.png Take a close look at your chart and some of the results...and tell me you believe it. You can believe what you'd like to believe...I believe what I've seen IRL. 
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