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Posted: 7/23/2010 1:18:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/23/2010 1:37:19 PM EDT by Lowjack545]
me, i have no idea how credible this is, my knowledge of corexit is limited, my  understanding is its supposed to make Oil sink rather then float on the surface.. this is from some interveiw with democracynow    so credibility is probably very suspect.. but who knows


The whistleblower is this Hugh Kaufman guy... who held this position until 2002  EPA ombudsman's chief investigator

http://www.examiner.com/x-10438-Human-Rights-Examiner~y2010m7d21-Censored-Gulf-news-Whistleblower-EPA-hiding-gassed-people-bleeding-internally


Censored Gulf news: People bleeding internally, millions poisoned says 'EPA whistleblower'


"...we have dolphins that are hemorrhaging. People who work near it are hemorrhaging internally. And that’s what dispersants are supposed to do... Congressman Markey and Nadler, as well as Senator Mikulski, have been heroes... Mark Kaufman, EPA whistleblower, Democracy Now!

Poisoning millions of people

In its report, EPA Whistleblower Accuses Agency of Covering Up Effects of Dispersant in BP Oil Spill Cleanup, Democracy Now! states that "many lawmakers and advocacy groups say the Obama administration is not being candid about the lethal effects of dispersants," so Amy Goodman interviewed Hugh Kaufman, a senior policy analyst at the EPA’s Office of Solid Waste and Emergency Response and a leading critic of the decision to use Corexit" who disclosed how the officials are lying about many things related to the catastrophe poisoning "millions of people." (Listen: Real Audio Strea or MP3 Download)

The rushed transcript includes Kaufman saying, "And I think the media now has to follow the money, just as they did in Watergate, and tell the American people who’s getting money for poisoning the millions of people in the Gulf. (Emphasis added)

"While concerns over the impact of chemical dispersants continue to grow, Gulf Coast residents are outraged by a recent announcement that the $20 billion government-administered claim fund will subtract money cleanup workers earn by working for the cleanup effort from any future claims.

The "Vessels of Opportunity" program has employed hundreds of Gulf Coast out of work people because of the spill which Kaufman says is viewed as yest another way "to limit the number of lawsuits against BP."

"And the government—both EPA, NOAA, etc.—have been sock puppets for BP in this cover-up. (Emphasis added)

Kaufman concurs with MSNBC's report last week, that "sole purpose in the Gulf for dispersants is to keep a cover-up going for BP to try to hide the volume of oil that has been released and save them hundreds of millions, if not billions, of dollars of fines... not to protect the public health or environment. Quite the opposite.."



looks like he was one of the main voices behind, WTC dust hurting workers claims etc
Link Posted: 7/23/2010 1:19:43 PM EDT
IBK_J
Link Posted: 7/23/2010 1:21:21 PM EDT
Utter crap.  How are the ingesting the dispersant?  And just how does soap make you bleed internally?
Link Posted: 7/23/2010 1:21:35 PM EDT
Bull.
Link Posted: 7/23/2010 1:22:17 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
IBK_J


this
Link Posted: 7/23/2010 1:23:03 PM EDT
Dawn dishwashing liquid makes your stomach bleed?
Link Posted: 7/23/2010 1:24:55 PM EDT

...we have dolphins that are hemorrhaging. People who work near it are
hemorrhaging internally. And that’s what dispersants are supposed to
do..





Link Posted: 7/23/2010 1:26:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/23/2010 1:27:25 PM EDT by Lowjack545]
from a little research..


The old corexit was considered as follows by the EPA per wikipedia, could be in doubt

Corexit 9527, considered by the EPA to be an acute health hazard, is stated by its manufacturer to be potentially harmful to red blood cells, the kidneys and the liver, and may irritate eyes and skin.[23][14]  The chemical 2-butoxyethanol, found in Corexit 9527, was identified as having caused lasting health problems in workers involved in the cleanup of the Exxon Valdez oil spill.[24]  According to the Alaska Community Action on Toxics, the use of Corexit during the Exxon Valdez oil spill caused people "respiratory, nervous system, liver, kidney and blood disorders".[16] Like 9527, 9500 can cause hemolysis (rupture of blood cells) and may also cause internal bleeding

According to the EPA, Corexit is more toxic than dispersants made by several competitors and less effective in handling southern Louisiana crude.[25] On May 20, 2010, the EPA ordered BP  to look for less toxic alternatives to Corexit, and later ordered BP to stop spraying dispersants, but BP responded that it thought that Corexit was the best alternative and continued to spray it.[3]

Link Posted: 7/23/2010 1:29:26 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/23/2010 1:31:02 PM EDT
Morons.  Absolute morons.



Zero proof of "internal bleeding".  Yet they claim "millions".  Zero proof that any dispersant used causes "internal bleeding".  Zero proof any worker has been exposed to dispersants and now has "internal bleeding".  MSDS ARE REQUIRED TO BE ON HAND TO ANYONE USING DISPERSANT.  And "internal bleeding" is not noted as a symptom of exposure.



http://lmrk.org/corexit_9500_uscueg.539287.pdf




Link Posted: 7/23/2010 1:31:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/23/2010 1:33:53 PM EDT by Lowjack545]
more info on the supposed whistleblower



Hugh Kaufman has been at EPA since the Agency was created in the early 1970s, as an engineer, investigator and policy analyst. Prior to joining the EPA in the beginning of 1971, he was a Captain in the US Air Force. He helped write all the Federal laws regulating the treatment, storage, disposal, and remediation of solid and hazardous waste. He has been the Chief Investigator on numerous contamination cases, including Love Canal and Times Beach.

In 1976, when he was Chief Investigator on Hazardous Sites, he came up with the idea for a major Government Clean-up Program called Superfund, that was enacted in 1980. Beginning in 1997, he served as Chief Investigator for EPA's National Ombudsman. In that role, he investigated and conducted several public hearings around the country on EPA's clean-up and remediation at hazardous sites. In this role, he led the investigation that uncovered EPA and Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) cover-up of the environmental effects of the collapse of the World Trade Center after al Qaeda's terrorist acts in September 11, 2001.

He has testified numerous times before Congress. Mr. Kaufman is currently the Senior Policy Analyst at EPA's Office of Solid Waste and Emergency Response, and has held this position since the Bush Administration abolished the EPA Ombudsman Office in 2002.


one of his quotes

Hugh Kaufman ,
"It's unbelievable what's going on. It's like deja vu all over again...We saw this on the Exxon Valdez. We saw this with Love Canal. We saw it with 911. How many times do we have to see this? There's no way you can be working in that toxic soup with getting exposures." Id.[3]  He also explained why there may be such a slack safety policy: "If people are wearing respirators, it scares people because they realise how toxic it it...The administration is down-playing the problem because it saves them money down the line. It was the same at Ground Zer
Link Posted: 7/23/2010 1:33:50 PM EDT
What a crock of shit.
Link Posted: 7/23/2010 1:34:37 PM EDT
I want my check. I got some soap in my mouth.
Link Posted: 7/23/2010 1:34:39 PM EDT
Bullshit.
Link Posted: 7/23/2010 1:34:43 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Lowjack545:
more info on the supposed whistleblower



Hugh Kaufman has been at EPA since the Agency was created in the early 1970s, as an engineer, investigator and policy analyst. Prior to joining the EPA in the beginning of 1971, he was a Captain in the US Air Force. He helped write all the Federal laws regulating the treatment, storage, disposal, and remediation of solid and hazardous waste. He has been the Chief Investigator on numerous contamination cases, including Love Canal and Times Beach.

In 1976, when he was Chief Investigator on Hazardous Sites, he came up with the idea for a major Government Clean-up Program called Superfund, that was enacted in 1980. Beginning in 1997, he served as Chief Investigator for EPA's National Ombudsman. In that role, he investigated and conducted several public hearings around the country on EPA's clean-up and remediation at hazardous sites. In this role, he led the investigation that uncovered EPA and Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) cover-up of the environmental effects of the collapse of the World Trade Center after al Qaeda's terrorist acts in September 11, 2001.

He has testified numerous times before Congress. Mr. Kaufman is currently the Senior Policy Analyst at EPA's Office of Solid Waste and Emergency Response, and has held this position since the Bush Administration abolished the EPA Ombudsman Office in 2002.


one of his quotes

Hugh Kaufman ,
"It's unbelievable what's going on. It's like deja vu all over again...We saw this on the Exxon Valdez. We saw this with Love Canal. We saw it with 911. How many times do we have to see this? There's no way you can be working in that toxic soup with getting exposures." Id.[3]  He also explained why there may be such a slack safety policy: "If people are wearing respirators, it scares people because they realise how toxic it it...The administration is down-playing the problem because it saves them money down the line. It was the same at Ground Zer


Link Posted: 7/23/2010 1:37:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/23/2010 1:39:45 PM EDT by krpind]
Originally Posted By Lowjack545:
from a little research..


The old corexit was considered as follows by the EPA per wikipedia, could be in doubt

Corexit 9527, considered by the EPA to be an acute health hazard, is stated by its manufacturer to be potentially harmful to red blood cells, the kidneys and the liver, and may irritate eyes and skin.[23][14]  The chemical 2-butoxyethanol, found in Corexit 9527, was identified as having caused lasting health problems in workers involved in the cleanup of the Exxon Valdez oil spill.[24]  According to the Alaska Community Action on Toxics, the use of Corexit during the Exxon Valdez oil spill caused people "respiratory, nervous system, liver, kidney and blood disorders".[16] Like 9527, 9500 can cause hemolysis (rupture of blood cells) and may also cause internal bleeding

According to the EPA, Corexit is more toxic than dispersants made by several competitors and less effective in handling southern Louisiana crude.[25] On May 20, 2010, the EPA ordered BP  to look for less toxic alternatives to Corexit, and later ordered BP to stop spraying dispersants, but BP responded that it thought that Corexit was the best alternative and continued to spray it.[3]



2-butoxyethanol, or EB as it is known, is no longer in Corexit.

It has been replaced with mineral spirits.

EB however continues to be in Fantastic, Formula 409, Simple Green and almost every other household cleaner sold in the United states.

They might should have checked into this before making such a claim......it makes them look really stupid to people who actually know about shit like this.

ETA, go look at some labels....it is more than likely used in a cleaning product used in your home right now.
Link Posted: 7/23/2010 1:38:49 PM EDT
It was....soap..poisoning.
Link Posted: 7/23/2010 1:39:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/23/2010 1:43:01 PM EDT by callgood]
CALIFORNIA PROPOSITION 65 :
This product does not contain substances which require warning under California Proposition 65.


California approves of this chemical.

Originally Posted By VBC:
It was....soap..poisoning.




Ralphie, what have we done!
Link Posted: 7/23/2010 1:40:40 PM EDT



Originally Posted By VBC:


It was....soap..poisoning.


Classic.  



 
Link Posted: 7/23/2010 1:41:01 PM EDT
Originally Posted By swingset:
I want my check. I got some soap in my mouth.


Is that what you people are calling it these days?
Link Posted: 7/23/2010 1:41:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/23/2010 1:42:39 PM EDT by Lowjack545]
Originally Posted By krpind:
Originally Posted By Lowjack545:
from a little research..


The old corexit was considered as follows by the EPA per wikipedia, could be in doubt

Corexit 9527, considered by the EPA to be an acute health hazard, is stated by its manufacturer to be potentially harmful to red blood cells, the kidneys and the liver, and may irritate eyes and skin.[23][14]  The chemical 2-butoxyethanol, found in Corexit 9527, was identified as having caused lasting health problems in workers involved in the cleanup of the Exxon Valdez oil spill.[24]  According to the Alaska Community Action on Toxics, the use of Corexit during the Exxon Valdez oil spill caused people "respiratory, nervous system, liver, kidney and blood disorders".[16] Like 9527, 9500 can cause hemolysis (rupture of blood cells) and may also cause internal bleeding

According to the EPA, Corexit is more toxic than dispersants made by several competitors and less effective in handling southern Louisiana crude.[25] On May 20, 2010, the EPA ordered BP  to look for less toxic alternatives to Corexit, and later ordered BP to stop spraying dispersants, but BP responded that it thought that Corexit was the best alternative and continued to spray it.[3]



2-butoxyethanol, or EB as it is known, is no longer in Corexit.

It has been replaced with mineral spirits.

EB however continues to be in Fantastic, Formula 409, Simple Green and almost every other household cleaner sold in the United states.

They might should have checked into this before making such a claim......it makes them look really stupid to people who actually know about shit like this.




i dont doubt that, but it does have some nasty heavy metals
http://www.epa.gov/oem/content/ncp/products/corex952.htm

Compound  Concentration (ppm)
Arsenic < 0.005
Cadmium < 0.01
Chromium < 1.0
Copper < 0.2
Lead < 0.1
Mercury < 0.003
Nickel < 0.1
Zinc 0.1
Cyanide < 0.01
Chlorinated Hydrocarbons < 0.01

9500 has less of these clearly but more Arsenic
http://www.epa.gov/oem/content/ncp/products/corex950.htm

Compound  Concentration (ppm)
Arsenic 0.16
Cadmium N/D
Chromium 0.03
Copper 0.10
Lead N/D
Mercury N/D
Nickel N/D
Zinc N/D
Cyanide N/D
Chlorinated Hydrocarbons N/D

if soap has arsenic and cadmium etc you might not want to wash your kids out with soap
Link Posted: 7/23/2010 1:42:11 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Lowjack545:
more info on the supposed whistleblower



Hugh Kaufman has been at EPA since the Agency was created in the early 1970s, as an engineer, investigator and policy analyst. Prior to joining the EPA in the beginning of 1971, he was a Captain in the US Air Force. He helped write all the Federal laws regulating the treatment, storage, disposal, and remediation of solid and hazardous waste. He has been the Chief Investigator on numerous contamination cases, including Love Canal and Times Beach.

In 1976, when he was Chief Investigator on Hazardous Sites, he came up with the idea for a major Government Clean-up Program called Superfund, that was enacted in 1980. Beginning in 1997, he served as Chief Investigator for EPA's National Ombudsman. In that role, he investigated and conducted several public hearings around the country on EPA's clean-up and remediation at hazardous sites. In this role, he led the investigation that uncovered EPA and Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) cover-up of the environmental effects of the collapse of the World Trade Center after al Qaeda's terrorist acts in September 11, 2001.

He has testified numerous times before Congress. Mr. Kaufman is currently the Senior Policy Analyst at EPA's Office of Solid Waste and Emergency Response, and has held this position since the Bush Administration abolished the EPA Ombudsman Office in 2002.


one of his quotes

Hugh Kaufman ,
"It's unbelievable what's going on. It's like deja vu all over again...We saw this on the Exxon Valdez. We saw this with Love Canal. We saw it with 911. How many times do we have to see this? There's no way you can be working in that toxic soup with getting exposures." Id.[3]  He also explained why there may be such a slack safety policy: "If people are wearing respirators, it scares people because they realise how toxic it it...The administration is down-playing the problem because it saves them money down the line. It was the same at Ground Zer



I hate it when the love canal bleeds
Link Posted: 7/23/2010 1:42:16 PM EDT
Amazing, yes I'm bleeding internally too - thank God.
Link Posted: 7/23/2010 1:44:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/23/2010 1:44:58 PM EDT by HardShell]
Link Posted: 7/23/2010 1:44:13 PM EDT



Originally Posted By Lowjack545:



Originally Posted By krpind:


Originally Posted By Lowjack545:

from a little research..





The old corexit was considered as follows by the EPA per wikipedia, could be in doubt




Corexit 9527, considered by the EPA to be an acute health hazard, is stated by its manufacturer to be potentially harmful to red blood cells, the kidneys and the liver, and may irritate eyes and skin.[23][14]  The chemical 2-butoxyethanol, found in Corexit 9527, was identified as having caused lasting health problems in workers involved in the cleanup of the Exxon Valdez oil spill.[24]  According to the Alaska Community Action on Toxics, the use of Corexit during the Exxon Valdez oil spill caused people "respiratory, nervous system, liver, kidney and blood disorders".[16] Like 9527, 9500 can cause hemolysis (rupture of blood cells) and may also cause internal bleeding



According to the EPA, Corexit is more toxic than dispersants made by several competitors and less effective in handling southern Louisiana crude.[25] On May 20, 2010, the EPA ordered BP  to look for less toxic alternatives to Corexit, and later ordered BP to stop spraying dispersants, but BP responded that it thought that Corexit was the best alternative and continued to spray it.[3]







2-butoxyethanol, or EB as it is known, is no longer in Corexit.



It has been replaced with mineral spirits.



EB however continues to be in Fantastic, Formula 409, Simple Green and almost every other household cleaner sold in the United states.



They might should have checked into this before making such a claim......it makes them look really stupid to people who actually know about shit like this.









i dont doubt that, but it does have some nasty heavy metals

http://www.epa.gov/oem/content/ncp/products/corex952.htm



Compound  Concentration (ppm)

Arsenic < 0.005

Cadmium < 0.01

Chromium < 1.0

Copper < 0.2

Lead < 0.1

Mercury < 0.003

Nickel < 0.1

Zinc 0.1

Cyanide < 0.01

Chlorinated Hydrocarbons < 0.01



9500 has less of these clearly but more Arsenic

http://www.epa.gov/oem/content/ncp/products/corex950.htm



Compound  Concentration (ppm)

Arsenic 0.16

Cadmium N/D

Chromium 0.03

Copper 0.10

Lead N/D

Mercury N/D

Nickel N/D

Zinc N/D

Cyanide N/D

Chlorinated Hydrocarbons N/D



if soap has arsenic and cadmium etc you might not want to wash your kids out with soap


YOU ARE ANOTHER MORON!!!!!!  PARTS PER MILLION!!!  ACTUALLY PARTS PER BILLION AS THEY ARE ALL LESS THAN 1 PPM!!!!
 
Link Posted: 7/23/2010 1:46:29 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Keith_J:

Originally Posted By Lowjack545:
Originally Posted By krpind:
Originally Posted By Lowjack545:
from a little research..


The old corexit was considered as follows by the EPA per wikipedia, could be in doubt

Corexit 9527, considered by the EPA to be an acute health hazard, is stated by its manufacturer to be potentially harmful to red blood cells, the kidneys and the liver, and may irritate eyes and skin.[23][14]  The chemical 2-butoxyethanol, found in Corexit 9527, was identified as having caused lasting health problems in workers involved in the cleanup of the Exxon Valdez oil spill.[24]  According to the Alaska Community Action on Toxics, the use of Corexit during the Exxon Valdez oil spill caused people "respiratory, nervous system, liver, kidney and blood disorders".[16] Like 9527, 9500 can cause hemolysis (rupture of blood cells) and may also cause internal bleeding

According to the EPA, Corexit is more toxic than dispersants made by several competitors and less effective in handling southern Louisiana crude.[25] On May 20, 2010, the EPA ordered BP  to look for less toxic alternatives to Corexit, and later ordered BP to stop spraying dispersants, but BP responded that it thought that Corexit was the best alternative and continued to spray it.[3]



2-butoxyethanol, or EB as it is known, is no longer in Corexit.

It has been replaced with mineral spirits.

EB however continues to be in Fantastic, Formula 409, Simple Green and almost every other household cleaner sold in the United states.

They might should have checked into this before making such a claim......it makes them look really stupid to people who actually know about shit like this.




i dont doubt that, but it does have some nasty heavy metals
http://www.epa.gov/oem/content/ncp/products/corex952.htm

Compound  Concentration (ppm)
Arsenic < 0.005
Cadmium < 0.01
Chromium < 1.0
Copper < 0.2
Lead < 0.1
Mercury < 0.003
Nickel < 0.1
Zinc 0.1
Cyanide < 0.01
Chlorinated Hydrocarbons < 0.01

9500 has less of these clearly but more Arsenic
http://www.epa.gov/oem/content/ncp/products/corex950.htm

Compound  Concentration (ppm)
Arsenic 0.16
Cadmium N/D
Chromium 0.03
Copper 0.10
Lead N/D
Mercury N/D
Nickel N/D
Zinc N/D
Cyanide N/D
Chlorinated Hydrocarbons N/D

if soap has arsenic and cadmium etc you might not want to wash your kids out with soap

YOU ARE ANOTHER MORON!!!!!!  PARTS PER MILLION!!!  ACTUALLY PARTS PER BILLION AS THEY ARE ALL LESS THAN 1 PPM!!!!


 


That and the last i heard arsenic would be my main concern other than cyanide as it has immediate toxicity
Link Posted: 7/23/2010 1:47:08 PM EDT
Originally Posted By krpind:
Originally Posted By Lowjack545:
from a little research..


The old corexit was considered as follows by the EPA per wikipedia, could be in doubt

Corexit 9527, considered by the EPA to be an acute health hazard, is stated by its manufacturer to be potentially harmful to red blood cells, the kidneys and the liver, and may irritate eyes and skin.[23][14]  The chemical 2-butoxyethanol, found in Corexit 9527, was identified as having caused lasting health problems in workers involved in the cleanup of the Exxon Valdez oil spill.[24]  According to the Alaska Community Action on Toxics, the use of Corexit during the Exxon Valdez oil spill caused people "respiratory, nervous system, liver, kidney and blood disorders".[16] Like 9527, 9500 can cause hemolysis (rupture of blood cells) and may also cause internal bleeding

According to the EPA, Corexit is more toxic than dispersants made by several competitors and less effective in handling southern Louisiana crude.[25] On May 20, 2010, the EPA ordered BP  to look for less toxic alternatives to Corexit, and later ordered BP to stop spraying dispersants, but BP responded that it thought that Corexit was the best alternative and continued to spray it.[3]



2-butoxyethanol, or EB as it is known, is no longer in Corexit.

It has been replaced with mineral spirits.

EB however continues to be in Fantastic, Formula 409, Simple Green and almost every other household cleaner sold in the United states.

They might should have checked into this before making such a claim......it makes them look really stupid to people who actually know about shit like this.

ETA, go look at some labels....it is more than likely used in a cleaning product used in your home right now.


That explains my severe respiratory reaction to all of the above cleaning products. K and N filter cleaner must also have this in it. I could see my lungs bleeding with massive exposure. Sounds like good times.
Link Posted: 7/23/2010 1:47:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/23/2010 1:51:12 PM EDT by Lowjack545]
Originally Posted By Keith_J:

Originally Posted By Lowjack545:
Originally Posted By krpind:
Originally Posted By Lowjack545:
from a little research..


The old corexit was considered as follows by the EPA per wikipedia, could be in doubt

Corexit 9527, considered by the EPA to be an acute health hazard, is stated by its manufacturer to be potentially harmful to red blood cells, the kidneys and the liver, and may irritate eyes and skin.[23][14]  The chemical 2-butoxyethanol, found in Corexit 9527, was identified as having caused lasting health problems in workers involved in the cleanup of the Exxon Valdez oil spill.[24]  According to the Alaska Community Action on Toxics, the use of Corexit during the Exxon Valdez oil spill caused people "respiratory, nervous system, liver, kidney and blood disorders".[16] Like 9527, 9500 can cause hemolysis (rupture of blood cells) and may also cause internal bleeding

According to the EPA, Corexit is more toxic than dispersants made by several competitors and less effective in handling southern Louisiana crude.[25] On May 20, 2010, the EPA ordered BP  to look for less toxic alternatives to Corexit, and later ordered BP to stop spraying dispersants, but BP responded that it thought that Corexit was the best alternative and continued to spray it.[3]



2-butoxyethanol, or EB as it is known, is no longer in Corexit.

It has been replaced with mineral spirits.

EB however continues to be in Fantastic, Formula 409, Simple Green and almost every other household cleaner sold in the United states.

They might should have checked into this before making such a claim......it makes them look really stupid to people who actually know about shit like this.




i dont doubt that, but it does have some nasty heavy metals
http://www.epa.gov/oem/content/ncp/products/corex952.htm

Compound  Concentration (ppm)
Arsenic < 0.005
Cadmium < 0.01
Chromium < 1.0
Copper < 0.2
Lead < 0.1
Mercury < 0.003
Nickel < 0.1
Zinc 0.1
Cyanide < 0.01
Chlorinated Hydrocarbons < 0.01

9500 has less of these clearly but more Arsenic
http://www.epa.gov/oem/content/ncp/products/corex950.htm

Compound  Concentration (ppm)
Arsenic 0.16
Cadmium N/D
Chromium 0.03
Copper 0.10
Lead N/D
Mercury N/D
Nickel N/D
Zinc N/D
Cyanide N/D
Chlorinated Hydrocarbons N/D

if soap has arsenic and cadmium etc you might not want to wash your kids out with soap

YOU ARE ANOTHER MORON!!!!!!  PARTS PER MILLION!!!  ACTUALLY PARTS PER BILLION AS THEY ARE ALL LESS THAN 1 PPM!!!!


 


FUCK YOU DOUCHEBAG.. I am just posting the fucking EPA links.. i am not making judgements on the mother fucking shit. thats copied directly off the MOTHERFUCKER
Link Posted: 7/23/2010 1:47:56 PM EDT
I did some research on e afternoon a few months back, and found that the company that makes Corexit has some major democrat players on its board. Big donors to the Zero campaigns, that sort of thing. I seem to recall that this company had millions of gallons of Corexit just sitting around, as it was designed to clean up terrestrial spills but had ben replaced by something more environmentally friendly. The decision to use it for the BP spill made some of the shareholders in the company millions of dollars.

I'll see if I saved any notes, links, etc.
Link Posted: 7/23/2010 1:48:26 PM EDT
Whoa. We're all on the same side, aren't we?
Link Posted: 7/23/2010 1:49:41 PM EDT

and we're off.....



Link Posted: 7/23/2010 1:51:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/23/2010 1:53:39 PM EDT by distributor_of_pain]
Originally Posted By Keith_J:

Originally Posted By Lowjack545:
Originally Posted By krpind:
Originally Posted By Lowjack545:
from a little research..


The old corexit was considered as follows by the EPA per wikipedia, could be in doubt

Corexit 9527, considered by the EPA to be an acute health hazard, is stated by its manufacturer to be potentially harmful to red blood cells, the kidneys and the liver, and may irritate eyes and skin.[23][14]  The chemical 2-butoxyethanol, found in Corexit 9527, was identified as having caused lasting health problems in workers involved in the cleanup of the Exxon Valdez oil spill.[24]  According to the Alaska Community Action on Toxics, the use of Corexit during the Exxon Valdez oil spill caused people "respiratory, nervous system, liver, kidney and blood disorders".[16] Like 9527, 9500 can cause hemolysis (rupture of blood cells) and may also cause internal bleeding

According to the EPA, Corexit is more toxic than dispersants made by several competitors and less effective in handling southern Louisiana crude.[25] On May 20, 2010, the EPA ordered BP  to look for less toxic alternatives to Corexit, and later ordered BP to stop spraying dispersants, but BP responded that it thought that Corexit was the best alternative and continued to spray it.[3]



2-butoxyethanol, or EB as it is known, is no longer in Corexit.

It has been replaced with mineral spirits.

EB however continues to be in Fantastic, Formula 409, Simple Green and almost every other household cleaner sold in the United states.

They might should have checked into this before making such a claim......it makes them look really stupid to people who actually know about shit like this.




i dont doubt that, but it does have some nasty heavy metals
http://www.epa.gov/oem/content/ncp/products/corex952.htm

Compound  Concentration (ppm)
Arsenic < 0.005
Cadmium < 0.01
Chromium < 1.0
Copper < 0.2
Lead < 0.1
Mercury < 0.003
Nickel < 0.1
Zinc 0.1
Cyanide < 0.01
Chlorinated Hydrocarbons < 0.01

9500 has less of these clearly but more Arsenic
http://www.epa.gov/oem/content/ncp/products/corex950.htm

Compound  Concentration (ppm)
Arsenic 0.16
Cadmium N/D
Chromium 0.03
Copper 0.10
Lead N/D
Mercury N/D
Nickel N/D
Zinc N/D
Cyanide N/D
Chlorinated Hydrocarbons N/D

if soap has arsenic and cadmium etc you might not want to wash your kids out with soap

YOU ARE ANOTHER MORON!!!!!!  PARTS PER MILLION!!!  ACTUALLY PARTS PER BILLION AS THEY ARE ALL LESS THAN 1 PPM!!!!


 


Now we're name calling? Really?

Not cool. Expect a time out.
Link Posted: 7/23/2010 1:51:40 PM EDT
Blue on blue!  Blue on blue!
Link Posted: 7/23/2010 1:52:35 PM EDT



Originally Posted By Keith_J:




 


Whats gotten into you dude?
 
Link Posted: 7/23/2010 1:54:00 PM EDT



Originally Posted By Lowjack545:



Originally Posted By Keith_J:




Originally Posted By Lowjack545:


Originally Posted By krpind:


Originally Posted By Lowjack545:

from a little research..





The old corexit was considered as follows by the EPA per wikipedia, could be in doubt




Corexit 9527, considered by the EPA to be an acute health hazard, is stated by its manufacturer to be potentially harmful to red blood cells, the kidneys and the liver, and may irritate eyes and skin.[23][14]  The chemical 2-butoxyethanol, found in Corexit 9527, was identified as having caused lasting health problems in workers involved in the cleanup of the Exxon Valdez oil spill.[24]  According to the Alaska Community Action on Toxics, the use of Corexit during the Exxon Valdez oil spill caused people "respiratory, nervous system, liver, kidney and blood disorders".[16] Like 9527, 9500 can cause hemolysis (rupture of blood cells) and may also cause internal bleeding



According to the EPA, Corexit is more toxic than dispersants made by several competitors and less effective in handling southern Louisiana crude.[25] On May 20, 2010, the EPA ordered BP  to look for less toxic alternatives to Corexit, and later ordered BP to stop spraying dispersants, but BP responded that it thought that Corexit was the best alternative and continued to spray it.[3]







2-butoxyethanol, or EB as it is known, is no longer in Corexit.



It has been replaced with mineral spirits.



EB however continues to be in Fantastic, Formula 409, Simple Green and almost every other household cleaner sold in the United states.



They might should have checked into this before making such a claim......it makes them look really stupid to people who actually know about shit like this.









i dont doubt that, but it does have some nasty heavy metals

http://www.epa.gov/oem/content/ncp/products/corex952.htm



Compound  Concentration (ppm)

Arsenic < 0.005

Cadmium < 0.01

Chromium < 1.0

Copper < 0.2

Lead < 0.1

Mercury < 0.003

Nickel < 0.1

Zinc 0.1

Cyanide < 0.01

Chlorinated Hydrocarbons < 0.01



9500 has less of these clearly but more Arsenic

http://www.epa.gov/oem/content/ncp/products/corex950.htm



Compound  Concentration (ppm)

Arsenic 0.16

Cadmium N/D

Chromium 0.03

Copper 0.10

Lead N/D

Mercury N/D

Nickel N/D

Zinc N/D

Cyanide N/D

Chlorinated Hydrocarbons N/D



if soap has arsenic and cadmium etc you might not want to wash your kids out with soap


YOU ARE ANOTHER MORON!!!!!!  PARTS PER MILLION!!!  ACTUALLY PARTS PER BILLION AS THEY ARE ALL LESS THAN 1 PPM!!!!





 




FUCK YOU DOUCHEBAG.. I am just posting the fucking EPA links.. i am not making judgements on the mother fucking shit. thats copied directly off the MOTHERFUCKER


The INSTANT you used "has some nasty heavy metals" when the concentrations are less than 1 ppm, you showed yourself to be a chemical moron AND were judgmental.



You are a moron.  Get over it.
 
Link Posted: 7/23/2010 1:55:15 PM EDT
Knock off the name calling, don't quote the CoC stuff and let's just move on.

We need people to be educated on this so the bullshit doesn't get spread around with nobody putting out correct info.
Link Posted: 7/23/2010 1:55:52 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Keith_J:

 


easy man
Link Posted: 7/23/2010 1:55:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/23/2010 1:55:57 PM EDT by thebeekeeper1]
Too much "WTF" to deal with.   WTF?
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