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Posted: 10/23/2016 8:42:53 AM EDT
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The greenie weenie cometh!!!!
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Posted: 10/23/2016 8:45:13 AM EDT
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Didn't we do this the day before?
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Posted: 10/23/2016 8:49:45 AM EDT
[#3]
The govt. gonna sue the welfare rats to get $$ back? Don't think so. Let the vets keep it.
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Posted: 10/23/2016 8:50:31 AM EDT
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The govt. gonna sue the welfare rats to get $$ back? Don't think so. Let the vets keep it. Agreed. |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 8:53:50 AM EDT
[#5]
That sucks.
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Posted: 10/23/2016 8:57:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The govt. gonna sue the welfare rats to get $$ back? Don't think so. Let the vets keep it. There's a lot more to this story - they are going after reenlistment bonuses and loan repayments that were fraudulently obtained |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 9:08:40 AM EDT
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There's a lot more to this story - they are going after reenlistment bonuses and loan repayments that were fraudulently obtained Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The govt. gonna sue the welfare rats to get $$ back? Don't think so. Let the vets keep it. There's a lot more to this story - they are going after reenlistment bonuses and loan repayments that were fraudulently obtained Yup. Overpayment is overpayment. Uncle sugar wants his money back. |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 9:25:33 AM EDT
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The govt. gonna sue the welfare rats to get $$ back? Don't think so. Let the vets keep it. This. Overpayment or not, they earned it. The hoods rats tho.... |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 9:31:03 AM EDT
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Yup. Overpayment is overpayment. Uncle sugar wants his money back. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The govt. gonna sue the welfare rats to get $$ back? Don't think so. Let the vets keep it. There's a lot more to this story - they are going after reenlistment bonuses and loan repayments that were fraudulently obtained Yup. Overpayment is overpayment. Uncle sugar wants his money back. It wasn't the fault of the vets, it was because of over zealous recruiters. And the recruiters being a representative of the entity allowing this to happen should be paying, not the vets. They were in a rush to fill ranks with experienced people so they promised them a bonus and then shipped them out before vetting them. |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 9:32:37 AM EDT
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This. Overpayment or not, they earned it. The hoods rats tho.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The govt. gonna sue the welfare rats to get $$ back? Don't think so. Let the vets keep it. This. Overpayment or not, they earned it. The hoods rats tho.... I'd be surprised if 10% of those people "earned it." My question is, what about the people who facilitated this? What's happening to them? |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 9:32:53 AM EDT
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Yup. Overpayment is overpayment. Uncle sugar wants his money back. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The govt. gonna sue the welfare rats to get $$ back? Don't think so. Let the vets keep it. There's a lot more to this story - they are going after reenlistment bonuses and loan repayments that were fraudulently obtained Yup. Overpayment is overpayment. Uncle sugar wants his money back. Please correct me if I am wrong but my understanding is that the Cali National Guard offered the payments. Is that false? |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 9:38:50 AM EDT
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It will never happen, once you give the money to them you will never see it again.
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Posted: 10/23/2016 9:46:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's a lot more to this story - they are going after reenlistment bonuses and loan repayments that were fraudulently obtained Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The govt. gonna sue the welfare rats to get $$ back? Don't think so. Let the vets keep it. There's a lot more to this story - they are going after reenlistment bonuses and loan repayments that were fraudulently obtained I'm willing to bet the soldiers had no clue the reenlistment bonuses were fraudulently obtained. That would be on who wrote the damn contract and reviewed it prior to payment rendered. If the money needs to be paid back, it should not fall on the soldiers. |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 9:48:00 AM EDT
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Dupe but still fucked up.
"Thank you for serving your country and getting shot at for a meager wage. We are going to need that money back so we can send aid to Syria. K thx." Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 9:50:48 AM EDT
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The govt. gonna sue the welfare rats to get $$ back? Don't think so. Let the vets keep it. |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 9:51:12 AM EDT
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I'm willing to bet the soldiers had no clue the reenlistment bonuses were fraudulently obtained. That would be on who wrote the damn contract and reviewed it prior to payment rendered. If the money needs to be paid back, it should not fall on the soldiers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The govt. gonna sue the welfare rats to get $$ back? Don't think so. Let the vets keep it. There's a lot more to this story - they are going after reenlistment bonuses and loan repayments that were fraudulently obtained I'm willing to bet the soldiers had no clue the reenlistment bonuses were fraudulently obtained. That would be on who wrote the damn contract and reviewed it prior to payment rendered. If the money needs to be paid back, it should not fall on the soldiers. This. Hanker down on those recruiters, and CA NGB who facilitated the fraud. If someone unknowingly buys a stolen tv, you don't prosecute them, you hound down and charge the seller. |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 9:52:17 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/23/2016 9:53:37 AM EDT
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I'd be surprised if 10% of those people "earned it." My question is, what about the people who facilitated this? What's happening to them? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The govt. gonna sue the welfare rats to get $$ back? Don't think so. Let the vets keep it. This. Overpayment or not, they earned it. The hoods rats tho.... I'd be surprised if 10% of those people "earned it." My question is, what about the people who facilitated this? What's happening to them? What do you mean by "surprised if 10% of those people earned it"? They earned it immediately upon signing to reenlist. There's no fucking earning it. It's a bullshit way to treat our vets. If somebody comes up to you and says they'll give you 20k to work for 3 years, gives you the money, you work for 3 years, then that's fucking it, it's done. Just because the person that paid you didn't go through the proper procedures then changed the rules to their benefit doesn't make you liable for paying it back. Fuck those assholes |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 9:54:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Agreed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The govt. gonna sue the welfare rats to get $$ back? Don't think so. Let the vets keep it. Agreed. |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 9:55:52 AM EDT
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Dupe x3 or it it 4 ?
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Posted: 10/23/2016 9:55:56 AM EDT
[#21]
Wow. BOHICA
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Posted: 10/23/2016 10:01:45 AM EDT
[#22]
Hopefully the bad PR on this makes them change their minds.
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Posted: 10/23/2016 10:06:28 AM EDT
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When your State is damn near bankrupt and your Country is 20 trillion in debt, they need to generate income some how.
Recruiter wrote baby contracts? Who approved it? Go after them |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 10:17:26 AM EDT
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Dupe but still fucked up. "Thank you for serving your country and getting shot at for a meager wage. We are going to need that money back so we can send aid to Syria. K thx." Just in the past week a military member here said the pay isn't bad. |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 10:18:24 AM EDT
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This is just fucking wrong. Pisses me off.
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Posted: 10/23/2016 10:19:25 AM EDT
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I'd be surprised if 10% of those people "earned it." My question is, what about the people who facilitated this? What's happening to them? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The govt. gonna sue the welfare rats to get $$ back? Don't think so. Let the vets keep it. This. Overpayment or not, they earned it. The hoods rats tho.... I'd be surprised if 10% of those people "earned it." My question is, what about the people who facilitated this? What's happening to them? The LATimes story which I read on this listed several officers who are now in prison for the fraudulent submittals and approvals. Not that it's any comfort to the enlisted folks who got it on paper and are now getting screwed. |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 10:25:19 AM EDT
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There's a lot more to this story - they are going after reenlistment bonuses and loan repayments that were fraudulently obtained Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The govt. gonna sue the welfare rats to get $$ back? Don't think so. Let the vets keep it. There's a lot more to this story - they are going after reenlistment bonuses and loan repayments that were fraudulently obtained iT IS NOT THE SOLDIER'S FAULT take it from the MEPS & the VA social workers that authorized the payments |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 10:27:22 AM EDT
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Good fodder for Trump.
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Posted: 10/23/2016 10:29:43 AM EDT
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Yup. Overpayment is overpayment. Uncle sugar wants his money back. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The govt. gonna sue the welfare rats to get $$ back? Don't think so. Let the vets keep it. There's a lot more to this story - they are going after reenlistment bonuses and loan repayments that were fraudulently obtained Yup. Overpayment is overpayment. Uncle sugar wants his money back. Did the soldiers willing defraud the Mil? If not how are they at fault? Also this is a pretty bad pr move. |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 10:31:21 AM EDT
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Just in the past week a military member here said the pay isn't bad. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dupe but still fucked up. "Thank you for serving your country and getting shot at for a meager wage. We are going to need that money back so we can send aid to Syria. K thx." Just in the past week a military member here said the pay isn't bad. It depends if you come from a dirt poor family then the pay isnt bad.... If you come from an upper middle class family or higher....then it can seem bad... But when an unmarried women with two children working a minimum wage job eight hours a week has a better car and a higher standard f living then a solider married or unmarried. All because of government entitlements... Well something is wrong. |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 10:34:13 AM EDT
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I guess the government needs the money to give to undeserving worthless shit stains elsewhere. What BS is this!!!!
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Posted: 10/23/2016 11:47:57 AM EDT
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Mods must be asleep as this was duped yesterday.
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Posted: 10/23/2016 12:01:55 PM EDT
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It depends if you come from a dirt poor family then the pay isnt bad.... If you come from an upper middle class family or higher....then it can seem bad... But when an unmarried women with two children working a minimum wage job eight hours a week has a better car and a higher standard f living then a solider married or unmarried. All because of government entitlements... Well something is wrong. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dupe but still fucked up. "Thank you for serving your country and getting shot at for a meager wage. We are going to need that money back so we can send aid to Syria. K thx." Just in the past week a military member here said the pay isn't bad. It depends if you come from a dirt poor family then the pay isnt bad.... If you come from an upper middle class family or higher....then it can seem bad... But when an unmarried women with two children working a minimum wage job eight hours a week has a better car and a higher standard f living then a solider married or unmarried. All because of government entitlements... Well something is wrong. More BS. Sorry, an 17 / 18 year old E0 makes roughtly the same amount as someone making $20 an hour in DIRECT compensation.. And that's with a bare minimum of education or job experience... And 90% of them would be making $12 an hour (if they are lucky) if they hadn't joined the Military. And "they can die in combat"? "Joe" is more likely to die in a car crash, after he crashes his overpriced car he bought at 19.6% APR. Granted it was probably slanted, but I remember reading that the mortality rate of soldiers actually went down during the height of the GWOT. Sure, Joe was dying in IEDs, getting shot, etc but he wasn't killing himself on the weekends. |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 12:03:37 PM EDT
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Take the money from the .mil and give it to homeless bums and illegal aliens.
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Posted: 10/23/2016 12:04:31 PM EDT
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If the recruiters offered a contract that stated x amount of money if the soldiers re-enlisted and the soldiers signed the contract ? How can the soldiers be made to pay back the agreed upon amount ? Seems like they could sue for breech of contract ?
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Posted: 10/23/2016 12:08:03 PM EDT
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If the recruiters offered a contract that stated x amount of money if the soldiers re-enlisted and the soldiers signed the contract ? How can the soldiers be made to pay back the agreed upon amount ? Seems like they could sue for breech of contract ? As stated above, it sounds like over payment. They singed up 87k and got 88k. Now they're bitching because they have to pay back the difference. |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 12:38:25 PM EDT
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Was just reading about this.
I wonder how many became severely injured due to re-upping for those years because of the enticement offered by those bonuses? |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 2:42:03 PM EDT
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The optics of this are pretty damned ugly.
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