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Posted: 7/15/2002 12:05:00 PM EST
The new prices went into effect this morning. First off, I am NOT a smoker! However I can't stand watching this take place. The lawyers have found a pool of money and will not stop until it is dry. Then what? Do you think when they are done destroying the tobacco industry they'll learn to live without the money they sucked from it? NOOOO.... Who's next? Probably liquor...beer. My point is eventually it will be something you enjoy! A better question would be "Where in hell is all this money going"? Ahhh..forget it! I don't want to know![pissed][smoke]
Link Posted: 7/15/2002 12:08:43 PM EST
It's just a test bed for policies they will eventually turn on other politically unpopular hobbies, it's a toss up whether it's gonna be booze or firearms as far as I'm concerned. Though my bet is they can't wait to sink their hands into the pockets of either group.
Link Posted: 7/15/2002 12:17:34 PM EST
Either? How about both.
Link Posted: 7/15/2002 12:22:16 PM EST
No, many will just buy on the internet. My buddy in Maryland is smoking Russian made Marlboro's. Go figure.
Link Posted: 7/15/2002 12:29:30 PM EST
Absolutely! They are going to go after anything that isn't "popular" with the majority of the people. Tobacco is the easiest one since its not fashionable to smoke anymore. Of course next it will probably be firearms and then alcohol....There are way too many drinkers out there as opposed to smokers. Just remember what ATF stands for....they'll come after them one at a time.......
Link Posted: 7/15/2002 12:36:25 PM EST
They have probably dried up the pool of money. Can you say smuggling?
Link Posted: 7/15/2002 12:41:48 PM EST
They're feeding their cocaine and whore habits of course! (That's where the money is going.) Don't forget about Big Sugar!
Link Posted: 7/15/2002 12:45:11 PM EST
How can you say things like this about the governments' protection of the children, It is a privelege to smoke, not a right....now does anyone have anything else? and the next time someone tells me that driving is a privelege and not a right, I am going to tell him to light up....if he can afford it...
Link Posted: 7/15/2002 12:46:11 PM EST
If you really wanted to drive people to revolt, this sounds like a great way to start. Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas...
Link Posted: 7/15/2002 12:49:14 PM EST
I'm still waiting for them to tax sex.
Link Posted: 7/15/2002 12:52:56 PM EST
yee haa I don't care what somebody else does to their body if it doesn't cost me or invade my space. Smoking is a addiction that the few force on the rest of us. Look around you cig. butts everywhere. You cant walk though the doorway to my building without running though a gauntlet of smokers at certain times. Smoking costs all tax payers. MEDICARE cost you and me millions. Alot of Lung and heart ailment seem to be linked to cigarettes. which do you think would be higher, the percent of high school dropouts who smoke or the percentage of people who finished college who smoke. Dropouts would be my guess,just a guess. Lest see who is paying for the dropouts health care about the time they cant work or have their first heart attack. They go broke and the Medicare system kicks in. That me and you. The only way to break the cycle is to stop kids from smoking. I don't know anybody who started to smoke over 18 years of age, unless they were in the military. If you smoke I say to you ROCK ON. Your right to smoke stops when you invade my space or cost me money.
Link Posted: 7/15/2002 1:01:04 PM EST
What would they call it? The Clinton Tax?
Originally Posted By PINGi3: I'm still waiting for them to tax sex.
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Link Posted: 7/15/2002 1:02:56 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/15/2002 1:03:25 PM EST by keving67]
I would like to be the first to publicly thank all of the smokers in Michigan for helping me go to college! Thanks guys and smoke 'em if you got 'em! Keving67
Link Posted: 7/15/2002 1:12:45 PM EST
I may be wrong about this, but I think smoking actually saves the rest of us money. IIRC, smokers actually cost less in overall healthcare than non-smokers 'cuz of reduced lifespan. Fire 'em up, guys!!
Link Posted: 7/15/2002 1:18:19 PM EST
Originally Posted By Max_Mike: They have probably dried up the pool of money. Can you say smuggling?
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Yup. Experience proves that when cigarette taxes go significantly higher in one state than in adjoining states, cigarette smuggling commences. Gotta keep the police and the courts busy prosecutin' them criminals!
Link Posted: 7/15/2002 1:26:33 PM EST
Originally Posted By ura_baddog: Smoking costs all tax payers. MEDICARE cost you and me millions. Alot of Lung and heart ailment seem to be linked to cigarettes.
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WRONG. Smoking saves taxpayers money. #1 - it generates income. #2 - it kills it's users before they become expensive burdens on the System It's been proven in studies that smoking saves tax dollars.
Link Posted: 7/15/2002 2:00:14 PM EST
About $23 per ctn here. With shipping should be about $26 to PA. How many cartons of LEGP smokes should we buy for our smoking brothers up there? Or maybe we should just undercut them by say $4 & make a bundle?
Link Posted: 7/15/2002 2:04:45 PM EST
Link Posted: 7/15/2002 3:41:40 PM EST
Originally Posted By DScott: I may be wrong about this, but I think smoking actually saves the rest of us money. IIRC, smokers actually cost less in overall healthcare than non-smokers 'cuz of reduced lifespan.
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That is my understanding as well. However, it doesn't get the state's snout out of the honey pot. Any kind of "voluntary" taxation...
Link Posted: 7/15/2002 3:47:32 PM EST
Someone needs to keep track and see how many additonal convininece store clerks get killed in the coming months...
Link Posted: 7/15/2002 3:58:59 PM EST
Yeah...I'm gonna miss a few towel heads??[BD] Okay...lock the thread!
Originally Posted By ArmdLbrl: Someone needs to keep track and see how many additonal convininece store clerks get killed in the coming months...
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Link Posted: 7/15/2002 4:02:05 PM EST
Originally Posted By M4Madness: Glad I quit smoking 7 years ago. [:D]
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And that's an interesting point. Imagine all the guns, ammo, and related stuff you can buy when you're not spending $4/pack to end your life sooner. Think of it as they just doubled the amount you'd be saving! [;D] Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas...
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