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Posted: 1/25/2009 9:27:03 AM EDT
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/01/25/pelosi-shrugs-alcatraz-possible-terror-detention-facility/

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Sunday shrugged off Republican suggestions that the federal government reopen Alcatraz prison in her San Francisco district to house detainees from Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

President Obama this week signed an executive order calling for the closure of the prison at Guantanamo within the year. Republican Rep. Bill Young then suggested to White House counsel Greg Craig that the prisoners who could not be released back to their home countries or sent to a third country be put up in "the Rock," the famous military installation and prison that closed down in 1963 and is now part of the National Park Service.

Asked whether that was a serious proposal, Pelosi said, "It is –– no."

"Perhaps he's not visited Alcatraz," Pelosi said of Young while displaying little sense of humor. "Alcatraz is a tourist attraction. It's a prison that is now sort of like a –– it's a national park."

That explanation didn't stop House Minority Leader John Boehner from repeating the suggestion on Sunday, making that point that closing down Guantanamo by year's end may not be the best plan considering the recidivism rate of terrorist detainees is about 12 percent.

"If liberals believe they ought to go, maybe we ought to open Alcatraz," Boehner, R-Ohio, told NBC "Meet the Press." Being reminded that Alcatraz is a national park, Boehner responded, "It's very secure."

The argument is just the latest iteration in an ongoing dispute over what to do with the remaining 245 enemy combatants who were to be tried in military commissions until a stay was ordered by the president last week in one of his first official acts.

Boehner said the promise to close Guantanamo by year's end is impractical.

"Unilaterally saying it without knowing how were going to deal with them…keeps a campaign promise, but may be irresponsible," he said.

But Pelosi called the plan to use the next year to review the case of each detainee is "brilliant."

"What the president put forth was very wise. He said he's going to close Guantanamo, take the time to do it. You can't just go down there today and say, 'Everybody out,' and lock the door. They're going to review the cases, narrow it down and then go from there. ... It's brilliant," she said on ABC's "This Week."

Vice President Biden, speaking on CBS' "Face the Nation," said the prison must be closed because the symbolism of Guantanamo around the world has resulted in the growth of terrorist organizations, not their reduction.

"There's no question it has to be closed. And we don't think it's inconsistent to deal with our national security and our Constitution. ... That's why we have the White House counsel –– Mr. Craig is now going through this meticulously, deciding what we're going to do with each and every prisoner," he said.

Biden added that if the detainees went through the civilian court system and were somehow released, they still would not be sent out into the United States because all but one is an American citizen

"If they are not a U.S. citizen or if they are not here legally, then, even if they were released by a federal judge, they would not be able to stay here in the United States. They would be sent back to their country of origin. They would not stay here," Biden said.

"They have no legal status to stay here, I don't anticipate that happening. What I anticipate happening is that those people who are in a situation where it is either the evidence is in question or it's going to be hard to make a case, we will most likely be rendering them back to their countries of origin or another country," he continued, adding that some countries have already agreed to establish prison facilities for the detainees.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 9:29:43 AM EDT
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She's reserving it for gun owners.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 9:30:26 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/25/2009 9:31:09 AM EDT
[#3]
I think they should stay out of the US all together but if they did reopen  Alcatraz and clean it up , it would open some new jobs.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 9:35:25 AM EDT
[#4]
Send em to Pelosi's house. She can make em all sammiches.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 9:36:25 AM EDT
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Quoted:
Send em to Pelosi's house. She can make em all sammiches.


Link Posted: 1/25/2009 9:40:22 AM EDT
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Quoted:
She's reserving it for gun owners.




Right, she sees us as the greater threat to her rein as queen of congress
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 9:41:53 AM EDT
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Quoted:
Quoted:
She's reserving it for gun owners.




Right, she sees us as the greater threat to her rein as queen of congress


I dunno, she's done a pretty good job of fucking it up all on her own.
Approval ratings for congress aren't based solely on gun owner opinions.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 9:42:17 AM EDT
[#8]
Off course she does. Liberals change thir minds in certian circumstances. Like when it affects them..
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 9:43:55 AM EDT
[#9]
She and Obama doesn't have a clue to what they are dealing with!
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 9:43:58 AM EDT
[#10]
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Send em to Pelosi's house. She can make em all sammiches.


Exactly! Alcatraz is in Pelosi's district. Wonder why she doesn't want them there, I mean they are human beings right, she should welcome them with open "Liberal" arms!
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 9:44:58 AM EDT
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She and Obama doesn't have a clue to what they are dealing with!


It will burn them bad, and God forbid we have another terror attack because of it.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 9:46:00 AM EDT
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Nancy can suck my dick.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 9:47:14 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/25/2009 9:48:16 AM EDT
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Nancy can suck my dick.




ick
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 9:49:20 AM EDT
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The Alcatraz comment was done just to piss off Pelosi, which I applaud.  But be assured, there WILL be some of those terrorists down in Cuba who will be released into the United States before this is all over.  There are way too many liberal Federal judges who have no qualms about bringing terrorists to US soil.

I also predict that one or more of those judges that release terrorists will be Jewish.  For the life of me I cannot figure out why they are so pro-terrorist over here.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 9:52:03 AM EDT
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So, when our guys find them on the battlefields of Afghanistan, AGAIN, they will terminate with extreme prejudice.

Fine by me. Should've killed them seven years ago when they were captured.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 9:56:14 AM EDT
[#17]
You can put them any place you want to.



Just not in my neighborhood



"The House"
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 11:10:57 AM EDT
[#18]
GITMO is a perfectly good facility and the courts have worked out the due process issues.

Closing GITMO is pure politics and pandering to the "international" community as well as a further waste of taxpayer's money.  Americans will pay for it with our blood.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 11:12:25 AM EDT
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So, when our guys find them on the battlefields of Afghanistan, AGAIN, they will terminate with extreme prejudice.

Fine by me. Should've killed them seven years ago when they were captured.


+1

If they know they will just be realised in the US after capture why not just shoot them and say they had no other choice?
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 11:27:36 AM EDT
[#20]
So, they close Gitmo and release the detainees. Has anyone thought where they are going to put new detainees? We have to put them somewhere although if I were in charge they would be put 6 feet under.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 11:29:58 AM EDT
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So, they close Gitmo and release the detainees. Has anyone thought where they are going to put new detainees? We have to put them somewhere although if I were in charge they would be put 6 feet under.


We will pay for them to stay in a white collar type prisoon as to not "mistreat" them or let them go and have them go back to Al Q again like that one guy already did.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 11:31:32 AM EDT
[#22]
Fuck it...

Give them a house in Detroit
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 11:34:16 AM EDT
[#23]
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Nancy can suck my dick.


She isn't coming any where near my trouser snake
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 11:41:05 AM EDT
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There is no reason to close Gitmo. Its a perfectly functional facility to put these fuckers through the court system that is now in place.



Its nothing but putting politics and "world opinion" ahead of the best interests of the country. I couldnt give two shits less what some other country thinks we should do. We are the only super-power in the world, and we didnt get there doing what other countries think we should do, and most certainly not because of what some dumb ass hippy activists have to say.


I hope our guys in the field use their head on this and stop producing these top tier guys in anything but little peices scatteried on some goat field in the mountains. Obviously our government isnt going to do whats right, and giving them alive is now going to mean putting American lives at risk.

Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:00:08 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:06:11 PM EDT
[#26]
Nancy Pelosi on Sunday shrugged off Republican suggestions that the federal government reopen Alcatraz prison in her San Francisco district to house detainees from Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.


I LOL'D
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:06:44 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:10:19 PM EDT
[#28]
Push them out the back of a C130, and there will no reason to worry about where they will be going .     Should have done this back then
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:10:29 PM EDT
[#29]
the USA should make them pick up trash in Detriot, make them work!!!
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:10:54 PM EDT
[#30]
I think they should give it back to the Indians and let them put a big casino on it.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:16:28 PM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
Quoted:
She and Obama doesn't have a clue to what they are dealing with!


It will burn them bad, and God forbid we have another terror attack because of it.


If we do, I won't be surprised at all if a few GB prisoners were involed or behind it.

If they hated American before I'm sure they just love it now....

Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:18:20 PM EDT
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Quoted:
Push them out the back of a C130, and there will no reason to worry about where they will be going .     Should have done this back then


+1 Lets just say that there are times when horrible training accidents are a must.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:20:26 PM EDT
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Quoted:

She's reserving it for gun owners.




Quoted For Truth.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:23:52 PM EDT
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So, when our guys find them on the battlefields of Afghanistan, AGAIN, they will terminate with extreme prejudice.



Fine by me. Should've killed them seven years ago when they were captured.


The cost of any intel we could get out of these turds will be compared to the potential liability of them getting released in Chicago by some Leftist fuck of a judge.



The Soldiers, Marines, Airmen, or Seamen will do the calculus on this and pull the trigger one more time. There just won't be any more prisoners.



Hey, we only took something like 900 Japanese soldiers during 3.5 years of battle in WWII.



I wonder why



Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:26:53 PM EDT
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Quoted:

Push them out the back of a C130, and there will no reason to worry about where they will be going . Should have done this back then




This.



Meets Geneva Conventions (marginally) as they were never an organized fighting force with a uniform and a government charter. Seriously, I wouldn't have the slightest problem with hitting the ramp button personally on this deal.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:30:11 PM EDT
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Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
She's reserving it for gun owners.




Right, she sees us as the greater threat to her rein as queen of congress


I dunno, she's done a pretty good job of fucking it up all on her own.
Approval ratings for congress aren't based solely on gun owner opinions.


No, but they sure should be.

Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:30:35 PM EDT
[#37]
Anarctica sounds good to me.  After all, according to Al G(wh)ore, it is warming up
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 1:31:47 PM EDT
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For those not up on Alcatraz ... it would be likely just as cheap to keep them on a luxury cruise liner. The island's prison was build a long time ago and the concrete isn't up to standards. The saltwater from the toilets and leaking pipes have made the stuff so soft it can be cut with a butter knife. The place is covered in lead paint, asbestos and DDT, not my first concern for the terrorist but a big on for those federal guards who need to also be exposed to the contaminates. And finally the most important reason to not consider Alcatraz is the huge expense - water, food, and guards need to be shuttled back and forth from the mainland. Electricity has to be generated in place.


Sounds like the perfect place to showcase Obama's new "green" ideas on economy-stimulating infrastructure expenditures - Solar power, locally-grown organic food (grown on the island with prison labor), service & sacrifice to the collective rather than personal ambition (use prison labor to renovate the facilities)...

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Send em to Pelosi's house. She can make em all sammiches.


StarKist TUNA sammiches!
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 2:12:31 PM EDT
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I'm glad to see the republicans are still a little sassy.
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