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Posted: 3/19/2017 9:35:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/19/2017 9:39:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/19/2017 10:13:04 PM EDT
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Pretty cool. I have a 5'' shell casing from BB-44. [the USS California.] Funny what shows up at gun shows occasionally. I paid $15 for it which I thought was a pretty decent price. The guy I bought it from said he had snuck it home with him, he was in his maybe late 70s to mid 80's at the time. He had some other stuff I probably should have bought but I passed at the time. Hind sight is 20/20.  [/img]
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Posted: 3/19/2017 10:18:47 PM EDT
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Dam Germans
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Posted: 3/19/2017 10:20:06 PM EDT
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Thanks. I actually have this information in my books. It's fascinating to learn about how the phoenix of a fleet can rise to fight again (with exception of the AZ and the OK).
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Posted: 3/19/2017 10:22:52 PM EDT
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USS Tennessee laid down some whoopass later. I wish we could have gotten her up the Mississippi River to Memphis and saved her. We could use her for shore bombardments.
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Posted: 3/19/2017 10:32:57 PM EDT
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Dam Germans  I see what you did here
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Posted: 3/19/2017 10:47:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/19/2017 10:57:20 PM EDT
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Cool!
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Posted: 3/19/2017 11:01:51 PM EDT
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Thanks for posting! Just topped up my glass of bourbon and settling in for some good reading!
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Posted: 3/19/2017 11:07:31 PM EDT
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My father served in the navy in WWI aboard the USS Washington as a gun captain in the #3 turret. The sailors who were out in the pacific for the whole war were rally hoping that the Japanese surrender would be signed on one of the battleships sunk at Pearl Harbor, raised and put back into service. If not one of them then another ship that had served long and hard out there. They really wanted to stick it to the Japanese and twist the knife. The only reason that the Missouri was chosen was because Truman was from Missouri. in their eyes the Missouri was a "Johnnie come lately" to the war and it their eyes did not merit the honor. According to him a lot of sailors took it as an insult.
My dad was a Plank Owner on the Washington and the only journey the ship ever took without him was when it was put into the mothball fleet. One of his biggest regrets was not turning around to take one last look at her when he left the ship to return to civilian life. He enlisted in the navy in March of 1941 for six years. With terminal leave, he went home in November of 1946. During the war he only had leave once. One of their stints at sea lasted 22 months. |
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Posted: 3/19/2017 11:20:59 PM EDT
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A friend of mine bought a very nice, correct 1903 Springfield about 15 years ago from someone who claimed it had been salvaged from the USS California after Pearl Harbor. He bought the gun for a very reasonable price and later got documentation that confirmed the story. The funny thing is, he found the gun after accidentally calling the wrong classified ad in a Garand Collectors Assn quarterly journal.
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Posted: 3/19/2017 11:29:48 PM EDT
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Just finished all three articles. Thanks for posting OP. They were definitely worth the read.
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Posted: 3/19/2017 11:51:11 PM EDT
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I'm almost through the first. Good read, thanks for posting!
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Posted: 3/20/2017 9:36:12 AM EDT
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Good stuff! Thanks!
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Posted: 3/20/2017 9:54:57 AM EDT
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My dad served on the Nevada from Pearl until she was decommissioned in '44. He was transferred to the Iowa, which, ironically, was one of the ships used to sink the Nevada in '46 for target practice because she was radioactive after being ground zero for the nuclear tests. He was onboard the Nevada prior to the nuclear tests, setting up test dummies and other items, which they retrieved after the blast to observe what it did to them. They were exposed to radiation, and were told that they may not be able to have children. I came along in '53 and I turned out OK
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Posted: 3/20/2017 10:06:58 AM EDT
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Thanks for the link OP!
Here is another one you guys might like----about WW2 airplane boneyards and the salvage process-----lots of pic of fighters and bombers going through the destruction-recycling process: http://www.airplaneboneyards.com/post-wwii-long-term-aircraft-storage-sites.htm |
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Posted: 3/20/2017 1:06:57 PM EDT
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 Attached File Attached FileSome is the gun batteries that the deck guns were repurposed into. I've got quite a few pictures from when I was stationed out there and decided to go explore the island and "get into" a few areas |
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Posted: 3/20/2017 1:39:18 PM EDT
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/53977/IMAG0304-170184.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/53977/IMAG0308-170188.JPG Some is the gun batteries that the deck guns were repurposed into. I've got quite a few pictures from when I was stationed out there and decided to go explore the island and "get into" a few areas |
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Posted: 3/20/2017 1:42:48 PM EDT
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/53977/IMAG0304-170184.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/53977/IMAG0308-170188.JPG Some is the gun batteries that the deck guns were repurposed into. I've got quite a few pictures from when I was stationed out there and decided to go explore the island and "get into" a few areas |
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Posted: 3/20/2017 1:44:58 PM EDT
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There are pieces of the WeeVee all over the state, including the ship's bell at the state museum in Charleston. There's a great model of the ship in the Mountainlair (student union) and the mast right outside in Morgantown.
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Posted: 3/20/2017 2:07:47 PM EDT
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Holy shit! I read for a solid 2 hours and realized I was only about 3/4 of the way down the first page!
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Posted: 3/20/2017 2:42:12 PM EDT
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Here is more pics from out there for you guys. The first one is what was Ft Barrette out in Kapolei near Barbers Point. Kinda cool to see how some of the old remaining pillboxes now look out at neighborhoods. Most of this area is closed up and blocked off, with an archery range being run on part of the former area.
Ft Barrette pics The second one is the Kaena Battery inside the mountain at Kaena Point on the North Shore. We found some cool early 1940s headstampted 30-06 rounds out here before we went inside the mountain. Battery Kaena Last one is from Marine Corps Air Station Ewa. I'll have to find the rest of my pics from Ewa of the concrete ramps where the aircraft were all parked when the Japanese attacked. Ewa was where some of the first minutes of the attack happened, prior to them making it to Pearl Harbor. MCAS Ewa |
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Posted: 3/20/2017 2:46:32 PM EDT
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/53977/IMAG0304-170184.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/53977/IMAG0308-170188.JPG Some is the gun batteries that the deck guns were repurposed into. I've got quite a few pictures from when I was stationed out there and decided to go explore the island and "get into" a few areas |
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Posted: 3/20/2017 2:47:22 PM EDT
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USS Pennsylvania was in drydock during the attack. Late in the war she was almost sunk by one torpedo. As one sailor described her she was a heavyweight fighter with a glass jaw.
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Posted: 3/20/2017 2:57:44 PM EDT
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/53977/IMAG0304-170184.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/53977/IMAG0308-170188.JPG Some is the gun batteries that the deck guns were repurposed into. I've got quite a few pictures from when I was stationed out there and decided to go explore the island and "get into" a few areas The Arizona's 14" turrets were made into turreted batteries on Oahu, however, after refurbishment. The turrets themselves are gone now, but the rest of the structures remain. 8" turrets from the carriers Lexington and Saratoga were also used to make such batteries. |
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Posted: 3/20/2017 3:09:35 PM EDT
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Most of those batteries were built before WWII. They didn't use guns removed from battleships. While a minority of the batteries used the Army's M1919 16" gun, most did use a naval 16" gun. These were repurposed from a cancelled battleship class from the interwar period. Surplus 12" guns were made into a smaller casemated battery sometimes and occasionally even 8-inchers. The Arizona's 14" turrets were made into turreted batteries on Oahu, however, after refurbishment. The turrets themselves are gone now, but the rest of the structures remain. 8" turrets from the carriers Lexington and Saratoga were also used to make such batteries. |
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Posted: 3/20/2017 3:17:52 PM EDT
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Not really related, but here are a few shots from the Japanese Migrant workers cemetery on land that was part of the Waimanalo Sugar plantation prior to the land being used to start the Bellows Field/Bellows AFB in 1917. When they built the base, they did it around the existing cemetery.
Bellows cemetery |
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Posted: 3/20/2017 3:24:51 PM EDT
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Finally, it was logged that USS Pennsylvania‘s wardroom dining china had shattered from the “Baker” shock wave. |
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Posted: 3/20/2017 3:33:23 PM EDT
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Awesome, thank you for the update. I love getting to see history like this and hate to see it all forgotten and obliterated. I would love for things like these to be protected worldwide for future generations to be able to see and understand what went on. We went to a few of the Nike missile sites on Oahu as well, and aside from the one at the old Bellows AFB, none are really left recognizable. A few of us took a day trip after HALO in Yuma and went to some of the old Titan II silos around that area too Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Most of those batteries were built before WWII. They didn't use guns removed from battleships. While a minority of the batteries used the Army's M1919 16" gun, most did use a naval 16" gun. These were repurposed from a cancelled battleship class from the interwar period. Surplus 12" guns were made into a smaller casemated battery sometimes and occasionally even 8-inchers. The Arizona's 14" turrets were made into turreted batteries on Oahu, however, after refurbishment. The turrets themselves are gone now, but the rest of the structures remain. 8" turrets from the carriers Lexington and Saratoga were also used to make such batteries. The Coast Defense Study Group does some work restoring and preserving some of this stuff, and they maintain lists of what still exists today. They played a role in the restoration of the Advanced Redoubt at Fort Adams, IIRC, and they also built a working 6" disappearing gun and installed it in one of the gun batteries at Ft. Stevens, among other work. A lot of stuff, though, does get demolished or is falling apart due to neglect, unfortunately. I don't think any turreted batteries still exist; I believe all of the turrets were scrapped not long after the war. All but a handful of batteries of any type were taken out of service by the early 1950s. A few managed on into the mid-1950s or a bit later. A couple of Fort Monroe's remained functional for some time afterwards, but I think they were used more for training than anything else (the guns are still emplaced, IIRC). The Coast Artillery Corps was converted into the Air Defense Artillery branch in the 1950s, as by then the bulk of the various coast defence batteries had been decommissioned and they were mostly operating AA guns and missiles. |
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Posted: 3/20/2017 3:48:53 PM EDT
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Thanks. I actually have this information in my books. It's fascinating to learn about how the phoenix of a fleet can rise to fight again (with exception of the AZ and the OK). |
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Posted: 3/20/2017 4:04:33 PM EDT
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To the OP, thanks for posting this! Was a fascinating read.
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Posted: 3/20/2017 4:11:28 PM EDT
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Thanks for posting. My dad was on the Vestal.
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Posted: 3/20/2017 6:13:43 PM EDT
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You forgot the USS Utah. There was a baby on board |
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Posted: 3/20/2017 6:43:35 PM EDT
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Tag
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Posted: 3/20/2017 7:26:39 PM EDT
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Thanks for posting. My dad was on the Vestal.https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/413/IMG-1370-170300.jpg |
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Posted: 3/20/2017 8:29:14 PM EDT
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Very cool, thanks. One of the photos of the Philadelphia Naval Yard showed the USS Trenton that my grandfather served aboard during WWII.
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Posted: 3/21/2017 1:33:24 AM EDT
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No mention of the 3 sailors trapped below decks on the WeeVee, who died at their battle station on Dec 23.....
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Posted: 3/21/2017 1:42:42 AM EDT
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The only reason to watch this movie was the warship pron
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Posted: 3/21/2017 2:41:03 AM EDT
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USS Pennsylvania was in drydock during the attack. Late in the war she was almost sunk by one torpedo. As one sailor described her she was a heavyweight fighter with a glass jaw.
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Posted: 3/21/2017 9:53:15 AM EDT
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Just finished Part 2, and on to Part 3. Bump for an excellent thread.
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Posted: 3/21/2017 2:03:41 PM EDT
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Thank you, OP!
I have now wasted dozens of hours on that site. At least this thread (unlike the one on Ostfront books) hasn't (yet) caused me to spend a shitload of money. |
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Posted: 3/21/2017 2:09:34 PM EDT
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Thank you, OP! I have now wasted dozens of hours on that site. At least this thread (unlike the one on Ostfront books) hasn't (yet) caused me to spend a shitload of money. |
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Posted: 3/21/2017 2:18:56 PM EDT
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No mention of the 3 sailors trapped below decks on the WeeVee, who died at their battle station on Dec 23..... |
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Posted: 3/21/2017 2:32:58 PM EDT
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WWII Memorial at the State Capitol in Phoenix.
Two gun barrels: one from the Arizona, the other from the Missouri. One from how the war started, the other from where it ended The flag mast in the background was the Arizona's as well 
One of her two anchors, also here at the Capitol. The other is still in Pearl 
There's also a USS Arizona museum inside the Capitol building itself. Has other items (including a section of her hull) on display that were recovered. If y'all are ever out here in the desert, it is well worth your time to see |
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Posted: 3/21/2017 2:45:14 PM EDT
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Thanks for posting OP, very good read
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Posted: 3/21/2017 3:46:22 PM EDT
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Thanks a lot... I have a lot of work to do today.
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Posted: 3/21/2017 3:55:51 PM EDT
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You forgot the USS Utah. |
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Posted: 3/21/2017 4:01:10 PM EDT
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And yet at Bikini Atoll, after a 90' submerged 23kt atomic blast, she was still afloat. How the hell does that work?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/09/Operation_Crossroads_Baker_Edit.jpg
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Posted: 3/21/2017 7:52:24 PM EDT
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WWII Memorial at the State Capitol in Phoenix. Two gun barrels: one from the Arizona, the other from the Missouri. One from how the war started, the other from where it ended The flag mast in the background was the Arizona's as well http://www.dickndebbietravels.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/State-House-Grounds-Guns-to-Salute-the-Fallen-Phoenix-AZ-2013-12-20.jpg One of her two anchors, also here at the Capitol. The other is still in Pearl http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/5c/39/18/5c391893e083e5bca0d0d588b5df275d.jpg There's also a USS Arizona museum inside the Capitol building itself. Has other items (including a section of her hull) on display that were recovered. If y'all are ever out here in the desert, it is well worth your time to see  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/21/2017 8:41:06 PM EDT
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Pretty cool. I have a 5'' shell casing from BB-44. [the USS California.] Funny what shows up at gun shows occasionally. I paid $15 for it which I thought was a pretty decent price. The guy I bought it from said he had snuck it home with him, he was in his maybe late 70s to mid 80's at the time. He had some other stuff I probably should have bought but I passed at the time. Hind sight is 20/20. http://i66.tinypic.com/289gb3t.jpg[/url] |
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