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Posted: 1/8/2006 10:07:41 PM EDT
A few months ago I started a thread because I was going to put together a patrol rifle for my brother as a Christmas gift. (I've since lost track of the original thread). I was able to pull it together, and I wanted to get some opinions on things he may still need; or need improving on.

Background: My brother is working patrol in mid-sized suburban city south of SLC, UT. He is not a "gun guy," although I do consider him to be a proficient shooter. It's just not his thing. During a visit out there he had mentioned that LEOs can carry their own patrol rifles, so I offered an old Mini-14 Ranch that I took in a trade, but never shot. A few months later he called me on it and asked if he could really have it.

It got me thinking about what would make a good patrol rifle and maximize his chances for coming home each night. Pretty soon I had abandoned the Mini idea, and decided to build an AR.

Purchased most components here (either EE or dealer), but got a good deal on a couple items from a LEO buddy of mine.

So here it is:

RRA Post-ban fake flash-hider M4 profile flat-top upper. This thing looked brand new, and shoots like a champ. ZERO problems with it. I put about 400 rounds through it to ensure function/accuracy. Put it on a Bushy complete lower with collapsible (4 position?) stock. I had planned on an A1 stock but someone here was pretty adamant about having an adjustable. I'm not crazy about the fake flash hider, but I'm not a rich guy, and I got a good deal. It certainly can't flash worse than a Mini!

I put a YHM BUIS on it; the A1 style that's tougher to adjust. Used in this capacity, the sight settings won't need to be moved in the field; and this way they're less likely to be accidentally changed. I bought an EoTech (the revision before F) and a Surefire "dedicated forend weaponlight," (http://www.surefire.com/maxexp/main/co_disp/displ/carfnbr/265/sesent/00). The Eotech and Surefire were used but work great.

Purchased 3 Wolff 20 rd mag springs and put them in 3 military used Colt 20s I already had. The mags always worked fine, but I didn't want to send him out with 30 year old springs.

I shot the snot out of the mags with new springs to ensure function. 100%

The only thing I didn't get time for was a sling; so I just looped some para-cord around the stock and tied on an old black web sling I found at the last minute. It's not HSLD, but it will probably work just fine. With him not being a gunnie, I worry about some of the more complicated units that require him to loop up, or hook up.

We had a "how it works," and cleaning session, but didn't have time to go to the range, which I regret. I sent him with some rounds for practice, and he says his PD offers a course, which will be perfect.

He was really pretty blown away when I gave it to him, after he was expecting the bare Mini. I am glad he has it, though I don't expect it'll get much use, other than bouncing around the back of the unit. Speaking of which, I'm assuming a hard case is a must?

I'd include a picture, but I lietrally don't know how to post it. I don't have it hosted anywhere, just my computer.

So what else, besides practice, does he need, or need to be aware of? Thanks!
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 10:59:34 PM EDT
It sounds like you covered everything for him. About the only thing I can think of is make sure he buys and keeps extra batteries for the light and Eotech with him and maybe a spare bulb for the Surefire.
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 11:47:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/9/2006 1:20:08 PM EDT by npd233]
great job!

If you email me the photo, I'll host it for a while on my photobucket acct. and post it up here for you. check your IM for the email addy.

edit... got the pic. Here's the photo


here's a link to your original thread.

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=76&t=407009
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 3:11:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/9/2006 3:12:35 AM EDT by dpcop]
Wow! Need a brother?
As for a case, a soft case, like a blackhawk Discret Case, might be easier. This is what I have my duty rifle in. The side pocket is nice for a small spare parts kit, extra mags, batteries, etc. A hard case is probably gonna be harder to move in and out of the car, shove in a locker, etc. The case is well padded, and seems to have protected my rifle well so far.

dp


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Link Posted: 1/9/2006 4:38:52 AM EDT
OK, I was thinking a hard case was a must. Maybe I'll look into those. One issue is that I can probably get the same level of protection (if not convenience) with a $20 hard case vs. a $100 HSLD soft case...
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 5:21:05 AM EDT
Go to the airsoft atlanta banner at the top of one of these pages and look for a TacForce discreet case. It's an excellent knockoff of the blackhawk and It's about $45.00 Get A spares carrier for the batteries and make sure he has extra batteries. Sling, No big deal. That's a highly personal thing. Maybe a Trijicon front sight post. Looks like you've got it all covered. Nice job.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:39:17 PM EDT
Hey, the pic came out pretty good. Thanks npd! I'll look up that soft case...
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 8:48:14 PM EDT
TDI Arms makes a stock saddle in several colors. It has a battery compartment similar to a VLTOR or LMT that holds 3 lithium batteries per compartment. They also havea great cheek weld. While it is primarily designed for one of the new M4 collapsibles, you can make some easy alterations to a CAR stock to mount it.

http://www.tdi-arms.com/store.php?region=usa&pid=284



I can provode instruction for modifications to a CAR stock. Warning, you can't be Dremel shy.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 5:54:22 PM EDT
+1 on the soft case. I am not sue brand is as important as having some pockets for the various crap a patrol rifles needs.
IMO slings are a MUST on a patrol rifle. WTF do you do with it when you don't have it in your hand and you need your hands free?????? I am a firm beliver in a sling that gets the rifle out of the way.
BTW, my Daddy gave me my first patrol rifle in 1978, a Win 94 in 30-30. It spent a lot of time in the car with me, and I still have it to this date. It is retired to safe queen status now, but I never felt under armed with it.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 8:46:08 AM EDT
Heck, I would carry it
You are a good brother!
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