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Posted: 3/12/2006 6:41:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/12/2006 6:41:57 AM EDT by VoodooChile]
Story seems to be a little slanted...he was already out of the pros before he joined...

I hope he joined for the right reasons

news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060311/ap_on_sp_fo_ne/nfl_to_marines


SAN DIEGO - A former college teammate of Pat Tillman is following in his footsteps, leaving a career in professional football to join the military.


Pfc. Jeremy Staat, a former defensive lineman who played for the Pittsburgh Steelers and the St. Louis Rams, graduated from the San Diego Marine Corps Recruit Depot on Friday.

Enlisting "is probably one of the best decisions I've made in my life," Staat, 29, told The Associated Press after the ceremony.

Tillman, who played defensive back for the Arizona Cardinals, was killed by friendly fire near the Pakistan- Afghanistan border in April 2004. The Defense Department is investigating allegations of a cover-up, including the Army's failure to tell Tillman's family for several weeks that he had been killed by gunfire from his fellow Army Rangers, not by enemy fire as they initially were told.

Staat said he was felt compelled to join the military after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks but Tillman, who was his roommate at Arizona State, advised him to stay with professional football until he qualified for retirement benefits.

"He told me, 'You're a good player, you need to get good play.' Then four months later, at his wedding, I learn he's going to the Army," Staat said. "I joked to him, 'You stole my idea,' and he said it had been in the process for a while."

Tillman's death gave him "more motivation" to enlist, Staat said. "I should have been there for him."

Tillman gave up a $1.2 million NFL contract to join the Army Rangers.

Staat played for the Steelers from 1998 to 2000, and played two games with the Rams in 2003. He was playing for the Los Angeles Avengers of the Arena Football League before being put on the league's suspended list.

"I never felt right about making the money I was making," he said. "We pay millions of dollars to professional athletes and entertainers, yet we pay military service people pennies to a dollar, and they're the ones risking their lives."

To enlist, the 6-foot-5 player said he dropped from 310 to 260 pounds. He said three months of boot camp training gave him a deeper appreciation for team camaraderie.

"It's about looking out for your fellow soldier, and being ready to take a bullet for someone," he said.

Link Posted: 3/12/2006 6:57:37 AM EDT
Attaboy!
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 8:07:25 AM EDT
I wonder if he's gonna get killed the same way...
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 8:12:32 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NME:
I wonder if he's gonna get killed the same way...



I wonder if this was the dumbest post you've ever made.
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 8:14:33 AM EDT

Originally Posted By RikWriter:

Originally Posted By NME:
I wonder if he's gonna get killed the same way...



I wonder if this was the dumbest post you've ever made.



Wow, I agree with Rik.
Might as well shut theboards down, the impossible has happened.
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 8:16:40 AM EDT

Originally Posted By RikWriter:

Originally Posted By NME:
I wonder if he's gonna get killed the same way...



I wonder if this was the dumbest post you've ever made.



No. But likely the dumbest in ARFcom history.

What are you? 11? 12?
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 8:20:02 AM EDT
Semper Fidelis


Congrats to PVC Jeremy Staat !!!

Wally
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 8:21:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/12/2006 8:22:33 AM EDT by 3rdpig]
I've got mixed feelings over guys that have huge earnings and star potential joining the military, specially if they're going to be placed in harms way, which is very likely.

First, while they do have the right to protect their country and I think it's very admirable that they want to, they also have a duty to provide for and protect their family, something for which they're infinetly better suited for than the average teenager.

Secondly, their impending stardom and millions might be better suited on pro-American work right here in the US, something they're wasted on in the military. But they can be a role model while being an NFL star and use their money and fame to good cause.

I admire them, truly I do. But I just wonder if their talents can't be better employed here. We're in a fight for the hearts and minds here in the states too. A pro military, pro America NFL star could go a long way to reverse the damage liberal educators are doing to young people.
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 8:22:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NME:
I wonder if he's gonna get killed the same way...

WTF is wrong with you! Look up the word TACT in the dictionary.
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 8:23:47 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 8:23:52 AM EDT

Originally Posted By bigcraig:

Originally Posted By NME:
I wonder if he's gonna get killed the same way...

WTF is wrong with you! Look up the word TACT in the dictionary.



"Tact" on Arfcom? Have we been reading the same message board? I've seen very litte of it here. But I agree his post was one of the most tasteless I've seen in some time.
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 8:25:18 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NME:
I wonder if he's gonna get killed the same way...

I wonder if you could get any dumber?
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 8:25:54 AM EDT
Just an idle thought, relax guys...
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 8:31:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 3rdpig:

Originally Posted By bigcraig:

Originally Posted By NME:
I wonder if he's gonna get killed the same way...

WTF is wrong with you! Look up the word TACT in the dictionary.



"Tact" on Arfcom? Have we been reading the same message board? I've seen very litte of it here. But I agree his post was one of the most tasteless I've seen in some time.

Sorry 3rdpig. I hate comments like that. Some people should think before they talk/post. That comment has really pissed me off. I going to take a break to cool off. Later.
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 8:42:14 AM EDT
Apparently I'm not conveying myself well today...

The way Tillman went was a bad way to go, and I hope he doesn't suffer the same fate...

You agree with me, don't you?

(I'm in a bit of an odd state of mind at the moment, didn't sleep too well...)
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 8:58:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/12/2006 8:59:15 AM EDT by RikWriter]

Originally Posted By NME:
Just an idle thought, relax guys...



It's idling pretty rough, isn't it?
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 8:58:55 AM EDT
He called his fellow marines "soldiers". Sounds like this marines got some Army Ranger envy, fellas.


(sorry, had to, I know the jarheads would have done it to us)
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 9:04:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By RikWriter:

Originally Posted By NME:
Just an idle thought, relax guys...



It's idling pretty rough, isn't it?



Oh yeah, very rough...

I had some very disturbing dreams last night...
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 9:09:44 AM EDT

Originally Posted By RikWriter:

Originally Posted By NME:
I wonder if he's gonna get killed the same way...



I wonder if this was the dumbest post you've ever made.



No he has others.....
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 9:10:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ZitiForBreakfast:

Originally Posted By RikWriter:

Originally Posted By NME:
I wonder if he's gonna get killed the same way...



I wonder if this was the dumbest post you've ever made.



No he has others.....



Which ones?
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 9:14:40 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NME:

Originally Posted By ZitiForBreakfast:

Originally Posted By RikWriter:

Originally Posted By NME:
I wonder if he's gonna get killed the same way...



I wonder if this was the dumbest post you've ever made.



No he has others.....



Which ones?

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=445217
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 9:16:51 AM EDT
You did see my second reply there, didn't you?
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 9:18:43 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NME:
Just an idle thought, relax guys...



Just a suggestion: Don't try too hard to hold intestinal gas -- It might pop out somewhere else.


Next time, try hitting the small 'X' at the top/right of the screen, instead of 'post'.
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 9:18:43 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NME:
You did see my second reply there, didn't you?



Perhaps you should just quit while you're behind.
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 9:20:30 AM EDT
Bleh, calm down guys...
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 9:20:42 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NME:
You did see my second reply there, didn't you?



That link covered both..Thanks.

Link Posted: 3/12/2006 9:21:58 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NME:
Bleh, calm down guys...



Bleh, GFY.
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 9:24:10 AM EDT
I'm not making much sense today.
Just leave it at that...
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 9:26:02 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NME:
I'm not making much sense today.
Just leave it at that...



...or just leave the thread.
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 9:30:50 AM EDT
Yeah, good idea...
Things aren't quite coming out how they're supposed too...

You know you've had days like this too though...
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 9:33:49 AM EDT
Fox just got done doing a story on this...What a great guy.

Read some of his quotes.

Link Posted: 3/12/2006 10:25:16 AM EDT
Okay, just finished eating...

(Not eating at the right times when you've got as strict a diet and regimen as mine can do bad things to the mind...)

Anyways, to set the record straight.

I have absolute respect for Tillman, I love what he did for this country, and it would be great if more people would do the same.

But what happened to him was horrible.
And I really hate the fact there was an attempted cover up, that is still more or less going to this day...
I believe if you f*Ck up, just admit it and accept the responsibility and deal with the consequences all ready.

I really wish nothing but the best of luck for this guy, and I hope everything works out fine for him.

(Sorry if I couldn't get that right a while ago, not my intent at all!)
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 10:34:33 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NME:
Okay, just finished eating...

(Not eating at the right times when you've got as strict a diet and regimen as mine can do bad things to the mind...)

Anyways, to set the record straight.

I have absolute respect for Tillman, I love what he did for this country, and it would be great if more people would do the same.

But what happened to him was horrible.
And I really hate the fact there was an attempted cover up, that is still more or less going to this day...
I believe if you f*Ck up, just admit it and accept the responsibility and deal with the consequences all ready.

I really wish nothing but the best of luck for this guy, and I hope everything works out fine for him.

(Sorry if I couldn't get that right a while ago, not my intent at all!)




Tell ya what. Take down that "uber-pretty" crap and replace your current avatar with a zombie or something and we'll consider forgiving you.
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 10:39:03 AM EDT
But I can't deny what I am!

Seriously, if I shave, I look like a girl...
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 10:41:49 AM EDT
SO, why is this guy on suspension from arena football?
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 10:46:45 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NME:
But I can't deny what I am!

Seriously, if I shave, I look like a girl...




....I tried to help ya.

Link Posted: 3/12/2006 10:53:01 AM EDT
Originally Posted By NME:
Okay, just finished eating...

(Not eating at the right times when you've got as strict a diet and regimen as mine can do bad things to the mind...)

Anyways, to set the record straight.

I have absolute respect for Tillman, I love what he did for this country, and it would be great if more people would do the same.

But what happened to him was horrible.
And I really hate the fact there was an attempted cover up, that is still more or less going to this day...
I believe if you f*Ck up, just admit it and accept the responsibility and deal with the consequences all ready.

I really wish nothing but the best of luck for this guy, and I hope everything works out fine for him.

(Sorry if I couldn't get that right a while ago, not my intent at all!)
[/quote

Fratricide is an ugly truth in combat.

The Ranger Regiment is not an ordinary unit doing ordinary things. We ( the public) don't always have a "need" to know. The Regiment can handle it's own business.

My 0.02
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 10:55:28 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NME:
But I can't deny what I am!

Seriously, if I shave, I look like a girl...



Might as well shred your man-card right now, bub.

BC
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 11:01:51 AM EDT
I may look like a girl, but I'm still 6' 4" and 219 lbs.
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 11:04:02 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 11:12:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/12/2006 11:13:37 AM EDT by Rock7]

Originally Posted By bigcraig:



+1.
NME has been "off" for quite some time now.
Always posting stupid shit.
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 5:56:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Hydguy:
SO, why is this guy on suspension from arena football?



Not sure but it looked like his Football Career was over..I was hoping that joining the Marines wasn't a last grab for the spotlight.
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