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Posted: 6/9/2017 7:49:33 AM EDT
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I've got to wonder how a hypothetical SEAL spouting this BS would be addressed by GD? Do prior CAG operators get a free pass? 
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Posted: 6/9/2017 7:50:29 AM EDT
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No, I said we have to work together. All of us pro 2A people are on the same team. I repeated this at the end too. All of this eating our own at the first sign of disagreement is weakening us as a whole. |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 7:57:49 AM EDT
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No, I said we have to work together. All of us pro 2A people are on the same team. I repeated this at the end too. All of this eating our own at the first sign of disagreement is weakening us as a whole. I also only heard lots of excuses but never really heard an apology. |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 8:09:27 AM EDT
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No, I said we have to work together. All of us pro 2A people are on the same team. I repeated this at the end too. All of this eating our own at the first sign of disagreement is weakening us as a whole. |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 8:09:28 AM EDT
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I am assuming you have to pay for those. So now you are paying to get a NICS check. I don't know what's worse, having to do one for no charge when you purchase a firearm or pay to have one done every 1-5 years. Either way the founders are rolling in their graves.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Having a CHL exempts you from the background check portion of buying from an FFL in many states. Federal law doesn't give a shit about your state permit. If you are buying a gun from an FFL dealer you have to fill out the form and submit to the background check. Attorney General Luther Strange's office announced the change Friday. Strange submitted a request for exemption to the mandatory National Instant Criminal Background Check, provided the Alabama concealed carry permit was issued on or after Aug. 1, 2013 and is not expired. To qualify for the exemption, the permit must have been issued within the past five years. The U.S. Department of Justice, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms approved the request. "I'm pleased that the ATF has approved my request to exempt Alabama conceal carry permit holders from having to undergo additional background checks each time they want to buy a firearm," Strange said in a news release. "Alabama concealed carry permit holders in good standing have already passed a background check and there is no need to force them to submit to additional checks if they intend to buy a firearm within five years of receiving their permit." Alabama and 23 other states have been given similar exemptions for those who hold concealed carry permits. Background checks already are required by law whenever someone applies for or renews a permit. During that process, sheriffs should contact local, state and federal criminal history data banks. http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2016/02/alabama_concealed_carry_permit.html So now you are paying to get a NICS check. I don't know what's worse, having to do one for no charge when you purchase a firearm or pay to have one done every 1-5 years. Either way the founders are rolling in their graves. |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 8:12:38 AM EDT
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Dupe. Already covered.
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Posted: 6/9/2017 8:15:58 AM EDT
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Physique seems to hold more weight than background. Ass kissing the target demographic helps. Larry Vickers became PNGed by the mob when he got fat and made the printer repairman crack. The fanboys that I've butted heads over the years have aboit about 5:1 fixated on how "fit" (read: ripped) the guy is over his military background. I think some of these trainers should make a shirtless calendar for a fundraiser. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've got to wonder how a hypothetical SEAL spouting this BS would be addressed by GD? Do prior CAG operators get a free pass? Ass kissing the target demographic helps. Larry Vickers became PNGed by the mob when he got fat and made the printer repairman crack. The fanboys that I've butted heads over the years have aboit about 5:1 fixated on how "fit" (read: ripped) the guy is over his military background. I think some of these trainers should make a shirtless calendar for a fundraiser.  spot on.
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Posted: 6/9/2017 8:23:36 AM EDT
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No, I said we have to work together. All of us pro 2A people are on the same team. I repeated this at the end too. All of this eating our own at the first sign of disagreement is weakening us as a whole. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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With in the first thirty seconds the host started insulting gun rights advocates and claimed that we had to compromise with gun grabbers All of this eating our own at the first sign of disagreement is weakening us as a whole. He is more than entitled to his opinion. But don't think for one second those of us who believe in the true intent of the 2nd Amendment are going to cock gobble someone who wants to "compromise". Fuck that. Culling the herd is not "weakening us as a whole". It actually makes our group stronger when we get rid of those who give up our rights. We can disagree on 1911 vs Glock, 9mm vs 45, no problem. But don't think for one second myself and many like me will support ANYONE who is for "compromise" with the gun grabbers. You are then my enemy. |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 8:26:47 AM EDT
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I'm glad the guy could be the stand-in man for 2A supporters on national TV and tell the antis what they wanted to hear then double down on social media, just so he could "clear the air" with the exact opposite opinion on a sympathetic podcast that only a relatively tiny number of people will ever listen to.
Nutgarglers have already assembled in this thread and been righteously slapped down for their dumbassery, thankfully. The same nutgarglers that show up every time some trainer NDs into his family member or fucks up in some other spectacular way to tell us how "in the know" they are and what a great guy the trainer is, and how you wouldn't tell the trainer how wrong he was to his face (because apparently they're all mentally unstable and would kick your ass over a disagreement?) I'm not saying the guy is an anti-gun loon and the second coming of Sarah Brady, but that was fucking dumb, especially when you're tapped to be an example of the pro-gun side of things, and especially when it's about one of the things that anti-gunners do occasionally win a legislative battle over. He clearly doesn't share my opinion on the issue, which makes him wrong about the 2A in my opinion. Doesn't make him evil or stupid, but it is very poor form to go on national television and crap on what is one of the more contentious gun issues in many areas. At the same time, firearms trainer and 2A advocate definitely don't have to mesh and clearly don't entirely. Had plenty of training exercises and classes where the trainer mentioned something that showed a disapproval for some level of civilian gun ownership and carrying. Its rare and typically just an offhand comment, but by no means does "instructor" mean "2A advocate". I don't take HSLD celebrity courses though and just do what work sends me to or allows me to take, and definitely isn't an impressive resume. |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 8:58:51 AM EDT
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The guy who asked the question has accepted Pat's answers in the stream FWIW http://i.imgur.com/ROCLFBX.png Quoted:
I think that was more in regards to Pat accusing him of being the same guy throwing out death threats. We corrected the error in the comments and they mentioned that it was not him on the stream. That being said, he said that his support of mandatory wait periods was based off threats on his life and not thinking clearly. The only problem with that is those threats happened long after the question was asked and the answer was given... I still respect Pat for what his service and his capabilities. The dude is a great shooter and is clearly in better shape than me. Haha. We do STILL disagree though. I know he says he doesn't support UBC & waiting periods, but he supports those people who DO think that way and says they're not wrong. I disagree. I think they and he are wrong. Would you mind a three day waiting period to write an opinion on the internet? Or to walk out your door and hold up a sign? We don't regulate other rights this way. I do think he general supports the Second Amendment and I understand getting in front of a camera and doing an interview they'll snip and splice how they want. It's unfortunate how it all played out. I don't think he supports the referenced as a whole, which is good but like I said, I think he's wrong to tell others that DO support it that they're NOT wrong. We're "pretty much" on the same page. Quoted:
So, The guy asked a question and it was answered straight up. Then a crawfish and the guy that asked the question accepts the crawfish? That's rich. Quoted:
@pyzik I was going to post a second post but since this one is long already I wanted to bring up a couple other things that were mentioned by the line up. I’ve volunteered many hours to 2A events here in MI. I’m active with participating in legislation locally. Was on the Board of Directors for Michigan Gun Owners. Organized and attend 2A rallies at our capitol. Write, call and talk with our elected officials. Have given Project Child Safe classes. Hell, I’ve even done my own local TV interview. Also attend as much training as I can afford. Yes, I’m Joe Blow who likes guns but I’m not just sitting on my ass posting to the internet. Anyway. Back to business as usual. Time to go make some gunporn. |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 9:00:56 AM EDT
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http://i.imgur.com/ss1ciW9.jpg Map has slightly changed. But it gets the point across. Not all states get to skip point of sale background with a CCW. |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 9:53:01 AM EDT
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IMO, he is looking for some fame and I guess it wasn't coming so he sided with an anti 2A comedy central show.
He can say he was edited all he wants but after the couric 2A hit piece you'd have to be a fucking moron to go on a CC show NOT expecting to be the punch line. And, he better hope he isn't lying about being edited because i'm sure the producers of that shit show could give a rats ass about him and would be happy to release the full unedited segment to prove what his opinion is. |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 10:02:14 AM EDT
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http://i.imgur.com/ss1ciW9.jpg Map has slightly changed. But it gets the point across. Not all states get to skip point of sale background with a CCW. |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 10:04:52 AM EDT
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Fuckin A, why doesn't Pat have his lawyer order a cease a desist on CC's hit piece then? That little bit most definitely is having an impact on his livelihood and business, and I'd damn sure be speaking to my lawyers for the liberal shitbags taking advantage of my position and stature for their own agenda.
The lack of a legal response from him is ringing my BS meter, cause I damn sure wouldn't stand for some cuck whitebread motherfucker ruining my training business. |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 10:15:27 AM EDT
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Fuckin A, why doesn't Pat have his lawyer order a cease a desist on CC's hit piece then? That little bit most definitely is having an impact on his livelihood and business, and I'd damn sure be speaking to my lawyers for the liberal shitbags taking advantage of my position and stature for their own agenda. The lack of a legal response from him is ringing my BS meter, cause I damn sure wouldn't stand for some cuck whitebread motherfucker ruining my training business. I was ammused by his response that he wasn't going to tell the antis, they are wrong. I don't know the man, but he does not come off as a shrinking violet that is afraid to confront someone. |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 10:18:07 AM EDT
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In the practical order, if he did, he would only waste money on attorney fees. I was ammused by his response that he wasn't going to tell the antis, they are wrong. I don't know the man, but he does not come off as a shrinking violet that is afraid to confront someone. Then again, I bet most of his students are LEO and mil anyways, so probably won't be a big deal if some printer repair men don't take his classes. |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 10:18:39 AM EDT
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Fuckin A, why doesn't Pat have his lawyer order a cease a desist on CC's hit piece then? That little bit most definitely is having an impact on his livelihood and business, and I'd damn sure be speaking to my lawyers for the liberal shitbags taking advantage of my position and stature for their own agenda. The lack of a legal response from him is ringing my BS meter, cause I damn sure wouldn't stand for some cuck whitebread motherfucker ruining my training business. |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 10:24:30 AM EDT
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he was posting on social media that he was sticking to his background check delayed guns for several days before he switched to the editing claim |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 10:46:43 AM EDT
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There ought to be a rule something along the lines of "We don't talk to libtards".
Comedy central is nothing but vial libtard propaganda. And the show Patmac is on is just that. Saw this on NPR this morning. Absolutely disgusting. http://www.npr.org/2017/06/09/531909598/comic-jordan-klepper-on-his-new-gun-documentary-and-leaving-the-daily-show What utter horse excrement. I see this libtarder propagandist is peddling suicides as "gun violence" http://www.cc.com/video-playlists/vek0yl/stand-up-jordan-solves-previews/rq6hsp |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 10:57:54 AM EDT
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Physique seems to hold more weight than background. Ass kissing the target demographic helps. Larry Vickers became PNGed by the mob when he got fat and made the printer repairman crack. The fanboys that I've butted heads over the years have at about 5:1 fixated on how "fit" (read: ripped) the guy is over his military background. I think some of these trainers should make a shirtless calendar for a fundraiser. 
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Posted: 6/9/2017 10:59:35 AM EDT
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Watched it.... it was a classic cluster fuck bait and switch. With in the first thirty seconds the host started insulting gun rights advocates and claimed that we had to compromise with gun grabbers. That absolutists are bad. Well I have to ruin their parade because gun grabbers are absolutists and will never quit until the 2nd Amendment is abolished in its entirety. They then defended Macnamara by claiming he was a victim due to heavy editing on Comedy Central. That Macnamara was just voicing support of compromise. That "he personally doesn't support UBC and waiting periods" but that he supports those that do since they can have an opinion. If Pat Macnamara was the victim of selective editing then why didn't he actually come out at first and State that? Why the social media comment where he stated that he does support waiting? For the most part this was hero worship and the belief of "Us vs Them" was shown. Cool that they all served and some have badges and such. Doesn't matter. THE 2ND AMENDMENT APPLIES TO ALL. Whether they're high speed snake eaters with bristling pectorals or 300lbs printer repair men with a XD in a $10 nylon Ace brand holster. |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 11:02:37 AM EDT
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There ought to be a rule something along the lines of "We don't talk to libtards". Comedy central is nothing but vial libtard propaganda. And the show Patmac is on is just that. Saw this on NPR this morning. Absolutely disgusting. http://www.npr.org/2017/06/09/531909598/comic-jordan-klepper-on-his-new-gun-documentary-and-leaving-the-daily-show What utter horse excrement. I see this libtarder propagandist is peddling suicides as "gun violence" http://www.cc.com/video-playlists/vek0yl/stand-up-jordan-solves-previews/rq6hsp Being a patsy for lib media is one of them. No matter who you are or what you have to say you will be made a fool. You will be edited to look like a fucking idiot and or to support the liberal agenda. They don't care if you spent a career killing bad guys. You are nothing more than a face to add to their trophy wall of fools. |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 11:09:14 AM EDT
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Physique seems to hold more weight than background. Ass kissing the target demographic helps. Larry Vickers became PNGed by the mob when he got fat and made the printer repairman crack. The fanboys that I've butted heads over the years have at about 5:1 fixated on how "fit" (read: ripped) the guy is over his military background. I think some of these trainers should make a shirtless calendar for a fundraiser. |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 11:40:46 AM EDT
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That made me laugh because its probably true. Larry vickers though, you can tell hes so full of himself its not even funny. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Physique seems to hold more weight than background. Ass kissing the target demographic helps. Larry Vickers became PNGed by the mob when he got fat and made the printer repairman crack. The fanboys that I've butted heads over the years have at about 5:1 fixated on how "fit" (read: ripped) the guy is over his military background. I think some of these trainers should make a shirtless calendar for a fundraiser. |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 11:57:28 AM EDT
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Who is this and why should I care? 
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Posted: 6/9/2017 12:21:21 PM EDT
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With the recent fallout over the video of Pat McNamara from an upcoming television episode on Comedy Central, folks have begun to ask us what our position is on this. Some have even asked us to remove Pat McNamara as one of our instructors in the Panteao Make Ready Series.
First, let me be extremely clear that everyone at Panteao Productions supports the Second Amendment. We are all NRA members and our company view (as well as mine personally) is that the Second Amendment is not up for debate. The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. That is very clear in my book. Getting back to Pat McNamara, I watched the video trailer in question and will be watching the full episode when it airs later. The first thought that came to mind was the folks at Comedy Central edited the footage to push their agenda. I have a feeling the majority of comments made by Pat that support the Second Amendment and gun ownership in general may have been “left on the cutting room floor” or turned into shorter snippets. With the folks at Comedy Central, I would expect no less. In all fairness, it would help to watch the whole video which hasn’t even aired yet. Do I believe in waiting periods? No. Do I believe in universal background checks? No. That said, there are Second Amendment supporters out there that do believe there should be some form of background check. Others believe in some form of waiting period. That does not make them anti-gun or the enemy of the Second Amendment. I do not believe that distancing ourselves from Pat over a single video piece is the answer. While we do not agree with his stance on certain topics, we do feel that he supports the Second Amendment. Pat served our country honorably and continues to teach both civilians and law enforcement on proper gun handling. That should count for something. If anything, maybe his video segment on Comedy Central will cause some mainstream anti-gunners out there or folks sitting on the fence to stop and rethink their stance. Maybe some will go to the range or take a pistol or carbine class and see the light. Fernando |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 12:26:31 PM EDT
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Do I believe in waiting periods? No. Do I believe in universal background checks? No. That said, there are Second Amendment supporters out there that do believe there should be some form of background check. Others believe in some form of waiting period. That does not make them anti-gun or the enemy of the Second Amendment. 2. Pat doubled down on his comments via social media. Did Comedy Central hack his Instagram? I would highly recommend that you speak to Pat about making a very clear, honest statement about his feelings on further infringements on the 2nd Amendment. Panteo's continued promotion of people with pro-gun control attitudes will lose them customers, including me. |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 12:27:27 PM EDT
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With the recent fallout over the video of Pat McNamara from an upcoming television episode on Comedy Central, folks have begun to ask us what our position is on this. Some have even asked us to remove Pat McNamara as one of our instructors in the Panteao Make Ready Series. First, let me be extremely clear that everyone at Panteao Productions supports the Second Amendment. We are all NRA members and our company view (as well as mine personally) is that the Second Amendment is not up for debate. The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. That is very clear in my book. Getting back to Pat McNamara, I watched the video trailer in question and will be watching the full episode when it airs later. The first thought that came to mind was the folks at Comedy Central edited the footage to push their agenda. I have a feeling the majority of comments made by Pat that support the Second Amendment and gun ownership in general may have been “left on the cutting room floor” or turned into shorter snippets. With the folks at Comedy Central, I would expect no less. In all fairness, it would help to watch the whole video which hasn’t even aired yet. Do I believe in waiting periods? No. Do I believe in universal background checks? No. That said, there are Second Amendment supporters out there that do believe there should be some form of background check. Others believe in some form of waiting period. That does not make them anti-gun or the enemy of the Second Amendment. I do not believe that distancing ourselves from Pat over a single video piece is the answer. While we do not agree with his stance on certain topics, we do feel that he supports the Second Amendment. Pat served our country honorably and continues to teach both civilians and law enforcement on proper gun handling. That should count for something. If anything, maybe his video segment on Comedy Central will cause some mainstream anti-gunners out there or folks sitting on the fence to stop and rethink their stance. Maybe some will go to the range or take a pistol or carbine class and see the light. Fernando |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 12:29:47 PM EDT
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If he wants to stand on his compromising with gun grabbers then he should own it. Don't be a pussy about it. He is more than entitled to his opinion. But don't think for one second those of us who believe in the true intent of the 2nd Amendment are going to cock gobble someone who wants to "compromise". Fuck that. Culling the herd is not "weakening us as a whole". It actually makes our group stronger when we get rid of those who give up our rights. We can disagree on 1911 vs Glock, 9mm vs 45, no problem. But don't think for one second myself and many like me will support ANYONE who is for "compromise" with the gun grabbers. You are then my enemy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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With in the first thirty seconds the host started insulting gun rights advocates and claimed that we had to compromise with gun grabbers All of this eating our own at the first sign of disagreement is weakening us as a whole. He is more than entitled to his opinion. But don't think for one second those of us who believe in the true intent of the 2nd Amendment are going to cock gobble someone who wants to "compromise". Fuck that. Culling the herd is not "weakening us as a whole". It actually makes our group stronger when we get rid of those who give up our rights. We can disagree on 1911 vs Glock, 9mm vs 45, no problem. But don't think for one second myself and many like me will support ANYONE who is for "compromise" with the gun grabbers. You are then my enemy. |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 12:31:13 PM EDT
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1. Yes, it does. 2. Pat doubled down on his comments via social media. Did Comedy Central hack his Instagram? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do I believe in waiting periods? No. Do I believe in universal background checks? No. That said, there are Second Amendment supporters out there that do believe there should be some form of background check. Others believe in some form of waiting period. That does not make them anti-gun or the enemy of the Second Amendment. 2. Pat doubled down on his comments via social media. Did Comedy Central hack his Instagram? |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 12:34:45 PM EDT
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again, no it doesn't. They're just not that bright and are duped into thinking that because they're nice people and think the anti people are the same. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do I believe in waiting periods? No. Do I believe in universal background checks? No. That said, there are Second Amendment supporters out there that do believe there should be some form of background check. Others believe in some form of waiting period. That does not make them anti-gun or the enemy of the Second Amendment. 2. Pat doubled down on his comments via social media. Did Comedy Central hack his Instagram? |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 12:36:37 PM EDT
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*shrug*
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Posted: 6/9/2017 12:38:11 PM EDT
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the sad thing in the gun world is how fast people eat their own and go full retard like some crazy fat pink haired lezbo Bernie fan for oppressing her and its everyone else's fault her masters in gender studies is worthless.
then I get sucked into this group by others who then think I'm a gun nut and rabid 2A wacko of some kind. I wonder what the next 10yr will bring and if it will be time for me to dump all my guns and gun related things at sky high prices during the next panic and then move onto something better, no one makes me sigh and mumble "oh what the fuck" as much as "gun people". Quoted:
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Do I believe in waiting periods? No. Do I believe in universal background checks? No. That said, there are Second Amendment supporters out there that do believe there should be some form of background check. Others believe in some form of waiting period. That does not make them anti-gun or the enemy of the Second Amendment. 2. Pat doubled down on his comments via social media. Did Comedy Central hack his Instagram? |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 12:38:14 PM EDT
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In the practical order, if he did, he would only waste money on attorney fees. I was ammused by his response that he wasn't going to tell the antis, they are wrong. I don't know the man, but he does not come off as a shrinking violet that is afraid to confront someone. |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 12:41:26 PM EDT
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With the recent fallout over the video of Pat McNamara from an upcoming television episode on Comedy Central, folks have begun to ask us what our position is on this. Some have even asked us to remove Pat McNamara as one of our instructors in the Panteao Make Ready Series. First, let me be extremely clear that everyone at Panteao Productions supports the Second Amendment. We are all NRA members and our company view (as well as mine personally) is that the Second Amendment is not up for debate. The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. That is very clear in my book. Getting back to Pat McNamara, I watched the video trailer in question and will be watching the full episode when it airs later. The first thought that came to mind was the folks at Comedy Central edited the footage to push their agenda. I have a feeling the majority of comments made by Pat that support the Second Amendment and gun ownership in general may have been “left on the cutting room floor” or turned into shorter snippets. With the folks at Comedy Central, I would expect no less. In all fairness, it would help to watch the whole video which hasn’t even aired yet. Do I believe in waiting periods? No. Do I believe in universal background checks? No. That said, there are Second Amendment supporters out there that do believe there should be some form of background check. Others believe in some form of waiting period. That does not make them anti-gun or the enemy of the Second Amendment. I do not believe that distancing ourselves from Pat over a single video piece is the answer. While we do not agree with his stance on certain topics, we do feel that he supports the Second Amendment. Pat served our country honorably and continues to teach both civilians and law enforcement on proper gun handling. That should count for something. If anything, maybe his video segment on Comedy Central will cause some mainstream anti-gunners out there or folks sitting on the fence to stop and rethink their stance. Maybe some will go to the range or take a pistol or carbine class and see the light. Fernando 1) it wasn't just a single (possibly edited) Comedy Central skit. He doubled down via social media. 2) Being a veteran means nothing in regards to his comments 3) "Stand and Fight" not compromise and then backtrack. |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 12:41:34 PM EDT
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With the recent fallout over the video of Pat McNamara from an upcoming television episode on Comedy Central, folks have begun to ask us what our position is on this. Some have even asked us to remove Pat McNamara as one of our instructors in the Panteao Make Ready Series. First, let me be extremely clear that everyone at Panteao Productions supports the Second Amendment. We are all NRA members and our company view (as well as mine personally) is that the Second Amendment is not up for debate. The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. That is very clear in my book. Getting back to Pat McNamara, I watched the video trailer in question and will be watching the full episode when it airs later. The first thought that came to mind was the folks at Comedy Central edited the footage to push their agenda. I have a feeling the majority of comments made by Pat that support the Second Amendment and gun ownership in general may have been “left on the cutting room floor” or turned into shorter snippets. With the folks at Comedy Central, I would expect no less. In all fairness, it would help to watch the whole video which hasn’t even aired yet. Do I believe in waiting periods? No. Do I believe in universal background checks? No. That said, there are Second Amendment supporters out there that do believe there should be some form of background check. Others believe in some form of waiting period. That does not make them anti-gun or the enemy of the Second Amendment. I do not believe that distancing ourselves from Pat over a single video piece is the answer. While we do not agree with his stance on certain topics, we do feel that he supports the Second Amendment. Pat served our country honorably and continues to teach both civilians and law enforcement on proper gun handling. That should count for something. If anything, maybe his video segment on Comedy Central will cause some mainstream anti-gunners out there or folks sitting on the fence to stop and rethink their stance. Maybe some will go to the range or take a pistol or carbine class and see the light. Fernando That person is my enemy they will sell us out. Them making such statements make them no better than any up front gun banner. I will not associate nor support such persons. Bama-Shooter |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 12:42:47 PM EDT
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the sad thing in the gun world is how fast people eat their own and go full retard like some crazy fat pink haired lezbo Bernie fan for oppressing her and its everyone else's fault her masters in gender studies is worthless. Anyone in favor of infringing on the 2nd Amendment IS NOT ONE OF OUR OWN. |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 12:42:54 PM EDT
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With the recent fallout over the video of Pat McNamara from an upcoming television episode on Comedy Central, folks have begun to ask us what our position is on this. Some have even asked us to remove Pat McNamara as one of our instructors in the Panteao Make Ready Series. First, let me be extremely clear that everyone at Panteao Productions supports the Second Amendment. We are all NRA members and our company view (as well as mine personally) is that the Second Amendment is not up for debate. The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. That is very clear in my book. Getting back to Pat McNamara, I watched the video trailer in question and will be watching the full episode when it airs later. The first thought that came to mind was the folks at Comedy Central edited the footage to push their agenda. I have a feeling the majority of comments made by Pat that support the Second Amendment and gun ownership in general may have been “left on the cutting room floor” or turned into shorter snippets. With the folks at Comedy Central, I would expect no less. In all fairness, it would help to watch the whole video which hasn’t even aired yet. Do I believe in waiting periods? No. Do I believe in universal background checks? No. That said, there are Second Amendment supporters out there that do believe there should be some form of background check. Others believe in some form of waiting period. That does not make them anti-gun or the enemy of the Second Amendment. I do not believe that distancing ourselves from Pat over a single video piece is the answer. While we do not agree with his stance on certain topics, we do feel that he supports the Second Amendment. Pat served our country honorably and continues to teach both civilians and law enforcement on proper gun handling. That should count for something. If anything, maybe his video segment on Comedy Central will cause some mainstream anti-gunners out there or folks sitting on the fence to stop and rethink their stance. Maybe some will go to the range or take a pistol or carbine class and see the light. Fernando |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 12:45:58 PM EDT
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It has been said multiple times but I guess you missed it. Anyone in favor of infringing on the 2nd Amendment IS NOT ONE OF OUR OWN. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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the sad thing in the gun world is how fast people eat their own and go full retard like some crazy fat pink haired lezbo Bernie fan for oppressing her and its everyone else's fault her masters in gender studies is worthless. Anyone in favor of infringing on the 2nd Amendment IS NOT ONE OF OUR OWN. |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 12:52:40 PM EDT
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Do I believe in waiting periods? No. Do I believe in universal background checks? No. That said, there are Second Amendment supporters out there that do believe there should be some form of background check. Others believe in some form of waiting period. That does not make them anti-gun or the enemy of the Second Amendment. Fernando 
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Posted: 6/9/2017 12:58:24 PM EDT
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Everyone in the gun industry better wake the fuck up and start being pro active and on the attack to promote and pass PRO gun laws!
THIS IS OUR TIME, THE NRA SAYS IT'S FINALLY GOING TO BE AGGRESSIVE AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO SUPPORT DISSENSION. I'm not going to waste the rest of this presidential term on sons of bitches talking compromises. Pat or whoever, If you are reading this you better get on board or get left behind. Yes, i'm a nobody on a gun forum I understand... but I am not the only nobody 
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Posted: 6/9/2017 12:59:12 PM EDT
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It's a sad day when a guy who makes a living on 2A believes in major part of the SAFE Act.
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Posted: 6/9/2017 1:03:11 PM EDT
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With the recent fallout over the video of Pat McNamara from an upcoming television episode on Comedy Central, folks have begun to ask us what our position is on this. Some have even asked us to remove Pat McNamara as one of our instructors in the Panteao Make Ready Series. First, let me be extremely clear that everyone at Panteao Productions supports the Second Amendment. We are all NRA members and our company view (as well as mine personally) is that the Second Amendment is not up for debate. The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. That is very clear in my book. Getting back to Pat McNamara, I watched the video trailer in question and will be watching the full episode when it airs later. The first thought that came to mind was the folks at Comedy Central edited the footage to push their agenda. I have a feeling the majority of comments made by Pat that support the Second Amendment and gun ownership in general may have been “left on the cutting room floor” or turned into shorter snippets. With the folks at Comedy Central, I would expect no less. In all fairness, it would help to watch the whole video which hasn’t even aired yet. Do I believe in waiting periods? No. Do I believe in universal background checks? No. That said, there are Second Amendment supporters out there that do believe there should be some form of background check. Others believe in some form of waiting period. That does not make them anti-gun or the enemy of the Second Amendment. I do not believe that distancing ourselves from Pat over a single video piece is the answer. While we do not agree with his stance on certain topics, we do feel that he supports the Second Amendment. Pat served our country honorably and continues to teach both civilians and law enforcement on proper gun handling. That should count for something. If anything, maybe his video segment on Comedy Central will cause some mainstream anti-gunners out there or folks sitting on the fence to stop and rethink their stance. Maybe some will go to the range or take a pistol or carbine class and see the light. Fernando This is gonna get good now. |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 1:13:06 PM EDT
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I do not believe that distancing ourselves from Pat over a single video piece is the answer. While we do not agree with his stance on certain topics, we do feel that he supports the Second Amendment. Pat served our country honorably and continues to teach both civilians and law enforcement on proper gun handling. That should count for something. If anything, maybe his video segment on Comedy Central will cause some mainstream anti-gunners out there or folks sitting on the fence to stop and rethink their stance. Maybe some will go to the range or take a pistol or carbine class and see the light. Fernando To the second point, I'd love to see any data that your proposition is nothing more than complete fantasy. |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 1:14:45 PM EDT
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*shrug* He's still a badass. |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 1:30:57 PM EDT
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Snip... Do I believe in waiting periods? No. Do I believe in universal background checks? No. That said, there are Second Amendment supporters out there that do believe there should be some form of background check. Others believe in some form of waiting period. That does not make them anti-gun or the enemy of the Second Amendment. ...Snip Fernando Quote HistoryQuoted:
Snip... Do I believe in waiting periods? No. Do I believe in universal background checks? No. That said, there are Second Amendment supporters out there that do believe there should be some form of background check. Others believe in some form of waiting period. That does not make them anti-gun or the enemy of the Second Amendment. ...Snip Fernando ***Godwin's Law in play*** First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak for me. My Civil Rights are not up for debate or to be sold via compromise. The Gun Grabbers are absolutist. They have one goal. The complete eradication of the 2nd Amendment and the abolishment of the ownership of arms from American society. When Absolutists like me are gone. The Gun Grabbers and Statists will go after the Compromisers next. |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 1:36:17 PM EDT
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If he wants to stand on his compromising with gun grabbers then he should own it. Don't be a pussy about it. He is more than entitled to his opinion. But don't think for one second those of us who believe in the true intent of the 2nd Amendment are going to cock gobble someone who wants to "compromise". Fuck that. Culling the herd is not "weakening us as a whole". It actually makes our group stronger when we get rid of those who give up our rights. We can disagree on 1911 vs Glock, 9mm vs 45, no problem. But don't think for one second myself and many like me will support ANYONE who is for "compromise" with the gun grabbers. You are then my enemy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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With in the first thirty seconds the host started insulting gun rights advocates and claimed that we had to compromise with gun grabbers All of this eating our own at the first sign of disagreement is weakening us as a whole. He is more than entitled to his opinion. But don't think for one second those of us who believe in the true intent of the 2nd Amendment are going to cock gobble someone who wants to "compromise". Fuck that. Culling the herd is not "weakening us as a whole". It actually makes our group stronger when we get rid of those who give up our rights. We can disagree on 1911 vs Glock, 9mm vs 45, no problem. But don't think for one second myself and many like me will support ANYONE who is for "compromise" with the gun grabbers. You are then my enemy. 
Nothing in the history of gun control has been a compromise. Many fucks be upon anyone who is willing to sell our rights down the river! |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 1:37:24 PM EDT
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the sad thing in the gun world is how fast people eat their own and go full retard like some crazy fat pink haired lezbo Bernie fan for oppressing her and its everyone else's fault her masters in gender studies is worthless. then I get sucked into this group by others who then think I'm a gun nut and rabid 2A wacko of some kind. I wonder what the next 10yr will bring and if it will be time for me to dump all my guns and gun related things at sky high prices during the next panic and then move onto something better, no one makes me sigh and mumble "oh what the fuck" as much as "gun people". no, it in fact does not. it shouldn't even be a "muh rights" kind of issue but unfortunately we have stooped that low. You want to win? Get in the trenches and fight because it isn't pretty anymore. That is what many in the GOP don't understand anymore and fail to realize. |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 1:45:38 PM EDT
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To the first point, why? Pat should have been smart enough to know that the vast majority of the media isn't gun friendly, and shilling for them is a losing proposition. |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 1:48:29 PM EDT
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Did you ever pay Paul Howe the money that you owed him? 
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