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Posted: 8/15/2017 9:15:45 AM EST
Last Monday I jumped on the PSA PA10 sales going on. I ended up getting the 18'' SS Mlok upper and gen 2 lower. Total price with dealer transfer was about $650. I also order a SIG Whiskey 3 optic to try since Cabelas had them on sale for $119 and figured if it sucks I can throw it on one of my .22's. I threw the optic in a Burris PEPR, not my favorite mount but I had one in my parts bin and this is a budget build.
Today I got it to the range and put 380 rounds through it, of all types of ammo without a single malfunction. The gun did seem a bit over gassed but it was manageable and as I said no malfunctions so I don't plan to do anything about that. I ran some of the shittiest ammo I could find through it to really test the function. Ammo shot: Surplus Brass 147gr FMJ Brown Bear lacquered steel 145gr Soft point Perfecta brass 150gr soft point Tula steel 165gr soft point Federal Gold Medal Match Brass 168gr. Range setup/ Procedure Front Bi pod and rear Caldwell bag. I first established a 50yd. (first berm where the jug is) zero to make sure I was on paper and get the windage on center. After I was centered I pushed back to the 100yd far berm and shot groups. 
The worst group fired was with the Tula 165gr. SP which was a hair above 3'' sans one flyer 
The best group as expected was the Federal Gold Medal Match 168gr. Which was right at MOA, There is a video of me shooting this group, which was a fairly rapid fire when going for groups. 
 Palmetto State Armory PA10 Every other ammo was somewhere in between. I only had about 4 random rounds of the brown bear so didn't really shoot a group with that although I suspect it probably would have been a bit worse than the tula based on the 4 shots that I did fire. Summary For an all in price of <$800 including the optic I couldn't be more pleased. I know 380 rounds is hardly a test of reliability for the long haul but this will primarily be used for deer hunting so it seeing a super high or rapid fire round count is unlikely. I will admit I was very skeptical based on the reports but so far I am happy. If you're on the fence about getting one I would FO before they switch to the PX10 and the prices increase. |
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Posted: 8/15/2017 9:23:47 AM EST
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In before "muh 6.5" guys shit in this great thread.
Great range report. 380 rounds of .308 is legit. Makes me question dropping $2k on my LMT, but then, the PSA wasn't available back then. Nice rifle! |
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Posted: 8/15/2017 9:29:48 AM EST
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If you're on the fence about getting one I would FO before they switch to the PX10 and the prices increase. What does the PX10 bring to the table? While I am allured of getting a cheap 308 AR, I'm also interested in getting newer features if available. |
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Posted: 8/15/2017 9:30:24 AM EST
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Thanks for the review!
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Posted: 8/15/2017 9:34:26 AM EST
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What does the PX10 bring to the table? While I am allured of getting a cheap 308 AR, I'm also interested in getting newer features if available. |
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Posted: 8/15/2017 9:36:47 AM EST
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With the right FCG you could really shirnk those groups and cut down of fliers.
You may want to fire it fast to see how it groups hot. It is a good idea tok now how the groups open as the barrel gets hot. |
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Posted: 8/15/2017 9:39:24 AM EST
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Thanks for posting this!
I've been considering buying one but didn't know how they were. |
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Posted: 8/15/2017 9:40:55 AM EST
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Very nice report and nice looking rifle.
What's the weight of your rifle set up as-is? |
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Posted: 8/15/2017 9:40:56 AM EST
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With the right FCG you could really shirnk those groups and cut down of fliers. You may want to fire it fast to see how it groups hot. It is a good idea tok now how the groups open as the barrel gets hot. |
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Posted: 8/15/2017 9:42:07 AM EST
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Very nice report and nice looking rifle. What's the weight of your rifle set up as-is? |
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Posted: 8/15/2017 9:46:42 AM EST
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That range looks familiar LOL.
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Posted: 8/15/2017 9:55:58 AM EST
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That range looks familiar LOL.  I need to renew my rifle and pistol club membership so I can stretch its legs, but its hard to beat $25 dollars annual VS. $200 or so for the rifle and pistol club.
On a separate note I had that gun I got from you last year with the 18'' criterion barrel last week and that thing is quite the shooter! It has been in the safe since we traded. |
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Posted: 8/15/2017 9:56:34 AM EST
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Sweet yoga mat.
Good info. I really want to fo on one of these, but don't want to spend the cash. |
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Posted: 8/15/2017 9:57:26 AM EST
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Posted: 8/15/2017 9:59:03 AM EST
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Sweet yoga mat.
Good info. I really want to fo on one of these, but don't want to spend the cash.
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Posted: 8/15/2017 10:01:36 AM EST
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Just a bit I need to renew my rifle and pistol club membership so I can stretch its legs, but its hard to beat $25 dollars annual VS. $200 or so for the rifle and pistol club.
On a separate note I had that gun I got from you last year with the 18'' criterion barrel last week and that thing is quite the shooter! It has been in the safe since we traded. Yeah that 18 inch rifle did I traded to you was a pretty damn good rifle and I hated to let it go. What's funny is I don't have the Remington anymore that I got from you LOL. I ended up trading it to a guyfor a DPMS similar to what you have. I love shooting it. Next time LaRue has their MBT trigger on sale for 99 bucks buy it. It's a pretty damn good trigger and I have that in my 308. I'm a solid Geissele fan and always will be, but for 99 bucks the LaRue trigger cannot be beat. |
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Posted: 8/15/2017 10:02:15 AM EST
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>>scrolls down to see if 3,5, or 10 shot groups.
>>see 5 shot groups >>close thread |
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Posted: 8/15/2017 10:03:33 AM EST
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Happy to see this as I actually just ordered the exact same rifle upper/lower. I got some magpul front and rear sights for mine also. Not much for an optic yet, but I did buy a couple of the strikefire 2 red dots since they came with a heap of free pmags.
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Posted: 8/15/2017 10:03:59 AM EST
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Thanks for the write up. I panicked last year and got a Maten lower. For just the cost of the Maten upper and lower, i can get a complete PSA ar10...
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Posted: 8/15/2017 10:06:13 AM EST
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Not to be a party poopers, but won't the taxman be upset if you buy two halves together on purpose?
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Posted: 8/15/2017 10:06:29 AM EST
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A $650 MOA shooting 308 AR with a rail that takes reliable $16 hi-cap mags - it's a fine time to be a gun nut.
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Posted: 8/15/2017 10:08:05 AM EST
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>>scrolls down to see if 3,5, or 10 shot groups. >>see 5 shot groups >>close thread |
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Posted: 8/15/2017 10:08:54 AM EST
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Not to be a party poopers, but won't the taxman be upset if you buy two halves together on purpose?  wut.jpg
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Posted: 8/15/2017 10:10:55 AM EST
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Not to be a party poopers, but won't the taxman be upset if you buy two halves together on purpose? |
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Posted: 8/15/2017 10:11:10 AM EST
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>>scrolls down to see if 3,5, or 10 shot groups. >>see 5 shot groups >>close thread |
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Posted: 8/15/2017 10:12:15 AM EST
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Not to be a party poopers, but won't the taxman be upset if you buy two halves together on purpose? |
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Posted: 8/15/2017 10:12:31 AM EST
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First of all, Great Set-Up..! Bro, 1 moa on a budget rig..? I can only imagine what you could do with a top tier stick.
Congrats..!! |
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Posted: 8/15/2017 10:12:55 AM EST
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A $650 MOA shooting 308 AR with a rail that takes reliable $16 hi-cap mags - it's a fine time to be a gun nut. |
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Posted: 8/15/2017 10:13:49 AM EST
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Posted: 8/15/2017 10:13:50 AM EST
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Last Monday I jumped on the PSA PA10 sales going on. I ended up getting the 18'' SS Mlok upper and gen 2 lower. Total price with dealer transfer was about $650. I also order a SIG Whiskey 3 optic to try since Cabelas had them on sale for $119 and figured if it sucks I can throw it on one of my .22's. I threw the optic in a Burris PEPR, not my favorite mount but I had one in my parts bin and this is a budget build. http://i.imgur.com/PBoImDG.jpg Today I got it to the range and put 380 rounds through it, of all types of ammo without a single malfunction. The gun did seem a bit over gassed but it was manageable and as I said no malfunctions so I don't plan to do anything about that. I ran some of the shittiest ammo I could find through it to really test the function. Ammo shot: Surplus Brass 147gr FMJ Brown Bear lacquered steel 145gr Soft point Perfecta brass 150gr soft point Tula steel 165gr soft point Federal Gold Medal Match Brass 168gr. Range setup/ Procedure Front Bi pod and rear Caldwell bag. I first established a 50yd. (first berm where the jug is) zero to make sure I was on paper and get the windage on center. After I was centered I pushed back to the 100yd far berm and shot groups. http://i.imgur.com/YWqB2B0.jpg http://i.imgur.com/LHtPYII.jpg The worst group fired was with the Tula 165gr. SP which was a hair above 3'' sans one flyer http://i.imgur.com/3E3gWqc.jpg?1 The best group as expected was the Federal Gold Medal Match 168gr. Which was right at MOA, There is a video of me shooting this group, which was a fairly rapid fire when going for groups. http://i.imgur.com/F5mzQG0.jpg  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtxolS4DOiY
Every other ammo was somewhere in between. I only had about 4 random rounds of the brown bear so didn't really shoot a group with that although I suspect it probably would have been a bit worse than the tula based on the 4 shots that I did fire. Summary For an all in price of <$800 including the optic I couldn't be more pleased. I know 380 rounds is hardly a test of reliability for the long haul but this will primarily be used for deer hunting so it seeing a super high or rapid fire round count is unlikely. I will admit I was very skeptical based on the reports but so far I am happy. If you're on the fence about getting one I would FO before they switch to the PX10 and the prices increase. 380 rounds is like 350 more rounds than the average hunter fires through the life of their bolt gun
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Posted: 8/15/2017 10:14:03 AM EST
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OP thanks for posting this! I have the exact same setup except Keymod. I have run about 100 give or take rounds through mine. I had lots of issues at first but was able to get them worked out.
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Posted: 8/15/2017 10:14:56 AM EST
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380 rounds is like 350 more rounds than the average hunter fires through the life of their bolt gun 
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Posted: 8/15/2017 10:16:09 AM EST
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Thanks for the review.
I ordered the $560 "MLOK" version yesterday and wasn't sure how reliable/accurate they were. |
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Posted: 8/15/2017 10:16:24 AM EST
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In before "muh 6.5" guys shit in this great thread. Great range report. 380 rounds of .308 is legit. Makes me question dropping $2k on my LMT, but then, the PSA wasn't available back then. Nice rifle! |
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Posted: 8/15/2017 10:18:33 AM EST
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Just got my upper yesterday, still holding off on buying the lower because my cc is smoking. I got the $299 upper with stainless barrel but with fsb.
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Posted: 8/15/2017 10:21:25 AM EST
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Posted: 8/15/2017 10:31:09 AM EST
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There's an 11% federal excise tax on firearms, paid by the manufacturer. If you buy a $650 assembled firearm the manufacturer owes Uncle Sam $71.50. If you buy a $30 stripped receiver today and $620 of parts tomorrow from the same guy the manufacturer owes Uncle Sam $3.30. This is partly why building your own is so economical. PSA and others used to decline to sell you both a stripped receiver and a parts kit in the same transaction for fear of getting dicked by the feds for tax evasion, I don't know if that's still the case. |
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Posted: 8/15/2017 10:34:15 AM EST
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What does the PX10 bring to the table? While I am allured of getting a cheap 308 AR, I'm also interested in getting newer features if available. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you're on the fence about getting one I would FO before they switch to the PX10 and the prices increase. What does the PX10 bring to the table? While I am allured of getting a cheap 308 AR, I'm also interested in getting newer features if available. I'm gonna say that's what it brings to the table... |
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Posted: 8/15/2017 10:39:23 AM EST
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Just goes to show you don't need to spend a fortune to get a good shooting .308 rifle. Palmetto makes good stuff.
I've always found it funny how the majority of haters have never owned nor shot a PSA rifle but feel qualified to trash them. Mine have all functioned 100% after hundreds of rounds.
Nice detailed range report and very good shooting skills. 
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Posted: 8/15/2017 10:41:50 AM EST
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Just goes to show you don't need to spend a fortune to get a good shooting .308 rifle. Palmetto makes good stuff.
I've always found it funny how the majority of haters have never owned nor shot a PSA rifle but feel qualified to trash them. Mine have all functioned 100% after hundreds of rounds.
Nice detailed range report and very good shooting skills. PSA is smart, sell high volume at low prices
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Posted: 8/15/2017 10:42:40 AM EST
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I did 250ish of the rounds fired today was the 147gr M80 surplus since I have a ton of it. I got the barrel nice and hot to where it was far too hot to touch and a nice heat mirage was coming off. The groups opened a bit but not too much. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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With the right FCG you could really shirnk those groups and cut down of fliers. You may want to fire it fast to see how it groups hot. It is a good idea tok now how the groups open as the barrel gets hot. how much does your rifle weigh? I saw on the PSA web site that the A3 mid length standard 18" GII carbine weights 10 pounds unloaded. seems odd considering the DPMS version weights less than 8 pounds. Maybe they weighed it with a loaded 25 round magazine, which is what it ships with. |
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Posted: 8/15/2017 10:52:25 AM EST
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Because he built a gun? Yeah no there's no problem with that. Only if he illegally built an NFA gun but he didn't. It's not exactly unknown. |
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Posted: 8/15/2017 11:04:24 AM EST
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Perfect timing to find this post! Thanks for sharing as I ordered the same rifle sunday.
I ordered it sunday, the upper shipped Monday and will be here Wednesday, how long did it take to get your lower? Just curious Thanks for the range report |
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Posted: 8/15/2017 11:07:43 AM EST
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Cool stuff! If I didn't hate them as a company is probably pick one up.
Thanks for the review! I don't know much about ar10s but does PSA use their own spec or DPMS (I think?) Specs? |
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Posted: 8/15/2017 11:08:30 AM EST
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I like what I am seeing. how much does your rifle weigh? I saw on the PSA web site that the A3 mid length standard 18" GII carbine weights 10 pounds unloaded. seems odd considering the DPMS version weights less than 8 pounds. Maybe they weighed it with a loaded 25 round magazine, which is what it ships with. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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With the right FCG you could really shirnk those groups and cut down of fliers. You may want to fire it fast to see how it groups hot. It is a good idea tok now how the groups open as the barrel gets hot. how much does your rifle weigh? I saw on the PSA web site that the A3 mid length standard 18" GII carbine weights 10 pounds unloaded. seems odd considering the DPMS version weights less than 8 pounds. Maybe they weighed it with a loaded 25 round magazine, which is what it ships with.
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Posted: 8/15/2017 12:22:56 PM EST
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There's an 11% federal excise tax on firearms, paid by the manufacturer. If you buy a $650 assembled firearm the manufacturer owes Uncle Sam $71.50. If you buy a $30 stripped receiver today and $620 of parts tomorrow from the same guy the manufacturer owes Uncle Sam $3.30. This is partly why building your own is so economical. PSA and others used to decline to sell you both a stripped receiver and a parts kit in the same transaction for fear of getting dicked by the feds for tax evasion, I don't know if that's still the case. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 8/15/2017 12:30:58 PM EST
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Posted: 8/15/2017 12:42:53 PM EST
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Weird, I have never heard of that being a thing or anyone ever getting in trouble for that. Seems like a stretch when both are legal to own and sounds dumb. That would be like me building a home built trailer which I have done and perfectly legal and then getting in trouble for not buying a trailer from a dealer because I didn't have to pay sales tax on it. And if that is the case , then they shouldn't sell the barreled upper and lowers for less than the complete gun costs. The gun complete at pictured is $699 if you buy it together but buying separate saved over $100 which is a few boxes of ammo so of course I am going to save money if I can. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not to be a party poopers, but won't the taxman be upset if you buy two halves together on purpose? wut.jpgGood review. I have a Palmetto Freedom line AR15 and it has run everything I fed it. Accuracy is better than I thought it would be as well. Owned this rifle for years and never cleaned it yet it still keeps going. I have noticed an oddity (in a good way) with it. I have AR's from several manufacturers and the Palmetto is the only one that does not have chipped anodizing despite being abused far more than the others. |
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Posted: 8/15/2017 12:51:41 PM EST
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The PX10 is a small frame like the DPMS G2, in fact the early release pics look like an exact copy and there has been un proven speculation that DPMS are making their uppers/lowers for the PX10 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What does the PX10 bring to the table? While I am allured of getting a cheap 308 AR, I'm also interested in getting newer features if available. |
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Posted: 8/15/2017 12:54:50 PM EST
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Something about having a 20 round detachable mag makes the ammo go..quickly the inner grunt and child in me cant stop smiling, my wallet hates it.
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Posted: 8/15/2017 1:30:30 PM EST
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right now they have two Gen2 lowers on their page. one is $159 and the other is listed as "blem" Gen2 for $179.
pics and specs are identical. what's the difference (besides $20)?.. $159 -- PSA GEN2 PA10 .308 Complete Classic Lower Receiver - 77932912 $179 -- PSA GEN2 PA10 BLEM .308 Complete Classic Lower Receiver - 77932913 |
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