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Anyone at all still think that the Pakistanis are our allies in the war on terror?

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They are China's.

Where is that stealth tail rotor anyway?

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So how did they know who our secret contacts are ?

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IS OK!

WE JUST ARREST TO GIVE MEDAL!

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So how did they know who our secret contacts are ?

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So how did they know who our secret contacts are ?

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Anyone at all still think that the Pakistanis are our allies in the war on terror?




WASHINGTON –– Pakistan's intelligence service has arrested the owner of a safe house rented to the CIA to observe Usama bin Laden's compound before the U.S. raid that killed the Al Qaeda leader, as well as a "handful" of other Pakistanis, a U.S. official said late Tuesday.

In Pakistan, a Western official confirmed a New York Times report that five of the Pakistani informants who fed information to the CIA before the May 2 bin Laden raid were arrested by Pakistan's top military spy agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence agency, known as ISI.



Bastards.

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Pakistan plays all sides against the middle. They're no real friend of China.

We just happen to be an easier mark for their cons, though.

TR85.

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Hmmm, Pakistan, the next Afghanistan?

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I sure hope not. That would be one hell of a bloody encounter.

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Our $2B per year friends

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My wife has been predicting that for about 8 years now.

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Except you won't get very many Americans cheering and rah-rah-rah-ing another invasion today.

It was really awesome to see our military go kick the crap out of Talibans and Iraqis ten years ago.  Today?  Not going to happen.  Nobody is going to greenlight yet another endless slog.

Pakistan has been "the next Afghanistan" for years now... except we cannot invade them, so we have to pretend they're our friends.  The Pakistani government has to pretend to be our friends while extorting us for billions of dollars a year, and then try to convince their own people that they aren't US toadies.

When our goal was to knock over the Taliban and deny support to al-Quaeda, we had something we could point at and say, "This is what will constitute victory".  It was achievable and meaningful.  Well, we did it years ago.  Now, what state would constitute "victory" that will allow the hawks to say "We won, we won, we get to go home now!"  There is no such animal.  The hawks tell us we have to stay there for 50 or 100 years.  And, meanwhile, what they claim we must stay in Afghanistan to fight goes on right across the border in Pakistan.

When there is no achievable state that you can agree means "victory", then to continue to fight is pointless and counterproductive.  It's years past the time we left that part of the world to it's own devices.  Even Europe cannot claim to be worried about "terrorism", when they're busily importing Third World Muslim immigrants as quickly as they can, and allowing them to take over huge swaths of their cities.

"We have a strong relationship with our Pakistani counterparts and work through issues when they arise," CIA spokeswoman Marie Harf told Fox News."Director Panetta had productive meetings last week in Islamabad. It's a crucial partnership, and we will continue to work together in the fight against Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups who threaten our country and theirs."

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Where is that stealth tail rotor anyway?

A U.S. official said then he did not know if the Pakistanis had offered a
peek to the Chinese, but said he would be "shocked" if the Chinese
hadn't already been given access to the damaged aircraft. Lapan did not
say whether or not there is evidence the Chinese had been allowed to see
the pieces of the helicopter before it was returned to the U.S.

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If we fought that war in any other way than old school tactics (ie. carpet bombing for weeks...kill everyone) we would be in DEEP SHIT. And we would "lose."

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This is why "kill 'em all" is the only workable foreign policy.

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Some in the Pakistani military are apparently already PARANOID that India is getting involved in Afghanistan in order to "surround" them.

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Some in the Pakistani military are apparently already PARANOID that India is getting involved in Afghanistan in order to "surround" them.

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WE JUST ARREST TO GIVE MEDAL!

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We bought it back from them.

ABCNews.com
 

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Our problem is we don't know how to buy allies, let's give 'em another $10 Billion...........yeah that ought to do it

China has been reluctant to admit military ambitions that have long been open secrets: for example its plans to launch an aircraft carrier were only admitted this month. Comments from senior Chinese military, such as, "We can no longer accept the Indian Ocean as only an ocean of the Indians. ... We are taking armed conflicts in the region into account," have also caused concern.

China's purported attempts to build a "string of pearls" of naval bases around India, never convincingly denied, add to the unease about Beijing's intentions. Talk by Chinese military officers of building the world's strongest military and displacing the U.S. as global hegemon, by war if necessary, also raises troubling questions about the balance of power in China between the politicians and the military.

Even so, the way that Beijing expressed support for Pakistan after the killing of Osama bin Laden is troubling. Friendship between the two countries goes back a long way. Pakistan opened the door to resumption of ties between China and the U.S. by permitting Henry Kissinger's secret flight to Beijing in 1971.

More dangerously, China also effectively masterminded Pakistan's acquisition of nuclear weapons by giving it 50 kilograms of weapons-grade enriched uranium, tons of uranium hexafluoride for centrifuges and detailed plans of nuclear weapons. The security of those weapons must now be in question after Taliban terrorists last month successfully attacked a Pakistan naval air base in Karachi, claiming revenge for the killing of bin Laden.

Pakistan played its China card after bin Laden's death, sending prime minister Yousaf Raza Gilani to Beijing. Premier Wen Jiabao promised that China would be an "all-weather strategic partner" for Pakistan and gifted 50 new JF-17 Thunder multirole aircraft as Pakistan negotiates for new stealth technology aircraft. Defense minister Ahmed Mukhtar disclosed that Pakistan had "asked our Chinese brothers to please build a naval base at Gwadar" close to the border with Iran.

What has this military hardware to do with Pakistan's very real problems of a troubled economy, a wretched education system and the active presence of Islamic terrorists who kill hundreds of Pakistanis every week?

Given attested reports of thousands of Chinese troops already in the sensitive regions of Gilgit and Baltistan along the Karakorum highway, supposedly helping Pakistan with new infrastructure projects, it is hard to escape the conclusion that an opportunistic Beijing is using hapless Pakistan to put further pressure on India, and undercut India's economic miracle by pushing Delhi to spend more on defense.