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Posted: 7/14/2022 12:47:49 PM EDT
Producer prices keep rising. Inflation isn’t slowing down anytime soon.

Link Posted: 7/14/2022 12:55:07 PM EDT
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And the Democrats will blame everyone possible but themselves.
Link Posted: 7/14/2022 12:56:02 PM EDT
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Putin price hike
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What happed to it is “Trump’s fault”?
Link Posted: 7/14/2022 1:03:16 PM EDT
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And every month the talking heads will continue to say it has peaked
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Link Posted: 7/14/2022 1:35:33 PM EDT
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This is what matters unless I am missing something. As long as manufacturers are multiple points ahead of the CPI I don't see how inflation can stop.

Or am I reading it wrong?
Link Posted: 7/14/2022 1:49:33 PM EDT
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I-bonds are looking better every day.
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When, officially, does the recession start?
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I wish there wasn't a yearly cap on them. But then again if there wasn't, we'd probably get a self-feeding inflationary loop.

I bonds are going to pay off my mortgage
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The problem is, you can’t put much in.   Not enough to make any difference.
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You are not missing anything. Prices are going to keep going up.
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What happed to it is “Trump’s fault”?

Please see FP which NI.  

Link Posted: 7/14/2022 1:58:27 PM EDT
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Maybe Joe Biden still has some of his old “Summer of Recovery” speeches he gave back in the Obama Administration where he was in charge of the recession recovery?
Link Posted: 7/14/2022 1:59:15 PM EDT
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It's going to get worse before it gets better, and that's if it gets better.
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2 weeks ago, on July 1, 2022
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When or if the republicans take the house in the midterms.
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It's not that bad. Input prices are rising so quickly that there won't be food to buy in the first place - think of all the money you'll save!

Besides that most Americans can stand to lose a few pounds anyway. Hooray!



The crazy part about this kind of shit is that the WH/MSM will - at some point - push such bullshit out there to see if perhaps it sticks.
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The new PPH %
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Exactly. Unlike the 70s there is no way for savers to avoid losing purchasing power
because non-I bonds are reflecting the rigged environment rates. They've managed to
trap almost everyone.
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I mean I hate fjb as much as the next guy but trump doesn’t get to avoid blame for shoveling us 9 trillion into the red with his stupid Covid giveaways and other largesse.
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It is partially Trump's fault. Both he and Biden increased the money supply to spend federal bucks so that weaklings today never have to experience hardship.
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It is partially Trump's fault. Both he and Biden increased the money supply to spend federal bucks so that weaklings today never have to experience hardship.
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It is partially Trump's fault. Both he and Biden increased the money supply to spend federal bucks so that weaklings today never have to experience hardship.


While I was only luke-warm on Trump, to be fair, the stimulus bill was essentially a poison pill.  If Trump signed it, we have what we have now.  If he vetoed it, Congress would have overriden him, and we'd still have what we have now.  Plus he would have basically guaranteed to have been voted out because nobody wants to vote for a guy who won't give them free money (aside from a few people with principles who didn't want the money).

I wanted to return the money I was sent, but basically could not.  I tried to tell them to not send it to me, but their website was fucked and I got the notice about free money/how to not get it AFTER the cutoff date to opt out.  I KNEW this was going to be bad news, but realistically nobody wanted to stop it.
Link Posted: 7/14/2022 3:05:20 PM EDT
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I wish there wasn't a yearly cap on them. But then again if there wasn't, we'd probably get a self-feeding inflationary loop.

I bonds are going to pay off my mortgage
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I wish there wasn't a yearly cap on them. But then again if there wasn't, we'd probably get a self-feeding inflationary loop.

I bonds are going to pay off my mortgage


Trusts can buy I Bonds, $10,000 a year.  Trusts--- not just for NFA any more

https://thefinancebuff.com/buy-more-i-bonds-treasury-direct-trust.html



Jacquie Traub says

December 24, 2021 at 2:43 pm

My husband sent this question to Treasury.Direct via their email address.
From: J Traub
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2021 9:35 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Trust Accounts
“I have two different trusts with the same TIN which is my social security number, but with different Trust names and purposes. Can I have Treasury.Direct accounts for both trusts, each with their own $10,000 purchase limitation? Thanks for your help.”

This is the response I received.
“From: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2021 5:07 AM
Subject: RE: Trust Accounts

Yes, John. You should be able to.

Barry

Securities Agent”


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What happed to it is “Trump’s fault”?

Everything before Feb 24th was Trump's fault.
Link Posted: 7/14/2022 3:21:28 PM EDT
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Born that way.
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Socialists.   They ran venezuela and argentina into the ground and never stopped blaming capitalists.   They still do.  It's what they do.
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While I was only luke-warm on Trump, to be fair, the stimulus bill was essentially a poison pill.  If Trump signed it, we have what we have now.  If he vetoed it, Congress would have overriden him, and we'd still have what we have now.  Plus he would have basically guaranteed to have been voted out because nobody wants to vote for a guy who won't give them free money (aside from a few people with principles who didn't want the money).

I wanted to return the money I was sent, but basically could not.  I tried to tell them to not send it to me, but their website was fucked and I got the notice about free money/how to not get it AFTER the cutoff date to opt out.  I KNEW this was going to be bad news, but realistically nobody wanted to stop it.
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It is partially Trump's fault. Both he and Biden increased the money supply to spend federal bucks so that weaklings today never have to experience hardship.


While I was only luke-warm on Trump, to be fair, the stimulus bill was essentially a poison pill.  If Trump signed it, we have what we have now.  If he vetoed it, Congress would have overriden him, and we'd still have what we have now.  Plus he would have basically guaranteed to have been voted out because nobody wants to vote for a guy who won't give them free money (aside from a few people with principles who didn't want the money).

I wanted to return the money I was sent, but basically could not.  I tried to tell them to not send it to me, but their website was fucked and I got the notice about free money/how to not get it AFTER the cutoff date to opt out.  I KNEW this was going to be bad news, but realistically nobody wanted to stop it.



The treasury accepts donations/gifts, nothing stops you from giving it back.
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EVEN if democrats believed this lie, shouldn't it raise concern that Putin has that much control over the U.S.?
Link Posted: 7/14/2022 3:27:42 PM EDT
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Too bad there's a limit
Link Posted: 7/14/2022 3:29:01 PM EDT
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This higher PPI is clearly due to privilege and oppression. What is needed, clearly, is targeted relief in the form of stimulus checks.
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Link Posted: 7/14/2022 3:41:00 PM EDT
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Mexico's inflation rate is only 7.62%....lol
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Too bad there's a limit

Too bad I can't get SSN's for my pets.
Link Posted: 7/14/2022 3:49:03 PM EDT
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While I was only luke-warm on Trump, to be fair, the stimulus bill was essentially a poison pill.  If Trump signed it, we have what we have now.  If he vetoed it, Congress would have overriden him, and we'd still have what we have now.  Plus he would have basically guaranteed to have been voted out because nobody wants to vote for a guy who won't give them free money (aside from a few people with principles who didn't want the money).

I wanted to return the money I was sent, but basically could not.  I tried to tell them to not send it to me, but their website was fucked and I got the notice about free money/how to not get it AFTER the cutoff date to opt out.  I KNEW this was going to be bad news, but realistically nobody wanted to stop it.
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I had rather you get it than Ukraine, Afghanistan, or a bunch of illegals.
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My understanding is they changed the way a recession is defined to get rid of the objectivity and make it more subjective.  It used to be two consecutive quarters of negative GDP and a negative outlook but now they are declared by the National Bureau of Economic Research in a way that looks more subjective in my opinion.

I need to look it up myself for Q2 but Q1 was negative and I read Q2 was negative as well.

From a practical perspective we are in a recession and I dont think a depression down the road is off the table.  

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Too bad I can't get SSN's for my pets.


I read an article outlining a way to buy more I-bonds than the standard limit of $15K/yr max. It involved buying them for your children or family members that you trusted implicitly, unfortunately for me I don't trust any of mine enough to not rip me off if they got in a bind.
Link Posted: 7/14/2022 3:56:56 PM EDT
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Last time it was double digit was during Jimmy Carter and Gerald Ford's terms
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It's not that bad. Input prices are rising so quickly that there won't be food to buy in the first place - think of all the money you'll save!

Besides that most Americans can stand to lose a few pounds anyway. Hooray!



The crazy part about this kind of shit is that the WH/MSM will - at some point - push such bullshit out there to see if perhaps it sticks.
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It's not that bad. Input prices are rising so quickly that there won't be food to buy in the first place - think of all the money you'll save!

Besides that most Americans can stand to lose a few pounds anyway. Hooray!



The crazy part about this kind of shit is that the WH/MSM will - at some point - push such bullshit out there to see if perhaps it sticks.

Hunger can make you happy

Link Posted: 7/14/2022 4:00:59 PM EDT
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I was all excited at the beginning of the year to get a 10% raise.
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I posted in another thread about that time frame. I was fresh out of college, making next to nothing but still managed to buy my first new vehicle and my first house without much trouble other than high interest rates on both. Even though gas was higher than it had been and groceries were up some it wasn't as shocking as it is now. What's going on now is much worse than the numbers indicate IMO.
Link Posted: 7/14/2022 4:03:33 PM EDT
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You people blaming trump are 87% wrong. And the idiocy in the other thread on this topic is unsalvageable.  

Yes trump signing that bill was one of 4 or 5 things I disagree with.  However, gov spending isn’t the ONLY input to inflation. If you take into account the other things he did, like dramatically lowering the price of energy by removing regulations and giving access to drilling and opening pipelines
Then you get a magic economy where real wages rose for the first time in decades AND spending went up while inflation remained quite low much to the surprise of experts.  

Here’s the official rate from Feds website.

2016 1.3%
2017 2.1%
2018 2.4%
2019 1.8%
2020 1.2%
2021 4.7%
2022* 8.0% (1Q only I think )

Trumps ill advised spending didn’t cause a spike in 2020.  Inflation actually dropped.  

The inflation you’re seeing now is 99% because of Joe biden.  He has done a hundred well documented things to increase the price of energy and food while spending much much more than trump.  

Trying to blame this on trump is desperate grasp at straws by liberals who don’t know or understand how any of this works.  


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Goes without saying.
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You people blaming trump are 87% wrong. And the idiocy in the other thread on this topic is unsalvageable.  

Yes trump signing that bill was one of 4 or 5 things I disagree with.  However, gov spending isn't the ONLY input to inflation. If you take into account the other things he did, like dramatically lowering the price of energy by removing regulations and giving access to drilling and opening pipelines
Then you get a magic economy where real wages rose for the first time in decades AND spending went up while inflation remained quite low much to the surprise of experts.  

Here's the official rate from Feds website.

2016 1.3%
2017 2.1%
2018 2.4%
2019 1.8%
2020 1.2%
2021 4.7%
2022* 8.0% (1Q only I think )

Trumps ill advised spending didn't cause a spike in 2020.  Inflation actually dropped.  

The inflation you're seeing now is 99% because of Joe biden.  He has done a hundred well documented things to increase the price of energy and food while spending much much more than trump.  

Trying to blame this on trump is desperate grasp at straws by liberals who don't know or understand how any of this works.  


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Inflation, by definition, is an expansion of the money supply. A lot of inflation occurred when Trump added $10 trillion to the debt and the Fed financed it with a printer. Price inflation has a lag to it. It's like an old water heater. The Fed and govt through fiscal stimulus turned the spigots all the way to hot and the water was still cold  until it suddenly started getting hot and "HOLY SHIT IT BURNS turn it off!"

It is not all Trump, but to act like he wasn't a huge contributor illustrates a lack of understanding of monetary policy. He called for NEGATIVE interest rates. That alone screams "I don't know what the hell im doing"

I have zero problem calling Trump out on it because I oppose reckless fiscal and monetary policy, regardless of what the letter is behind the name.


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How democrats view inflation | Inflation is our Friend ?? (Dan Aykroyd)
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That stops the money from existing exactly how?
Link Posted: 7/14/2022 4:18:38 PM EDT
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Dont worry, be happy -- its all apart of the "build back better" dem plan.

trust them, they know whats good for you.
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It's not that bad. Input prices are rising so quickly that there won't be food to buy in the first place - think of all the money you'll save!

Besides that most Americans can stand to lose a few pounds anyway. Hooray!



The crazy part about this kind of shit is that the WH/MSM will - at some point - push such bullshit out there to see if perhaps it sticks.

Hunger can make you happy



I'm sure they'll trot that out again soon. It's been 14 years since that was published after all.
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