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Posted: 12/26/2002 1:55:45 AM EST
I was arguing with someone who says that only 'waco' types go to these boards. I said that is a load of shit, there are many LEOs, Military, and other government employees. So, speak up, and help me prove this idiot wrong
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Link Posted: 12/26/2002 2:06:17 AM EST
82nd, you don't need to convince me, I know the truth. It's these damn tree huggin yahoos that don't.
Originally Posted By 82ndAbn: Take a look at the "Hall of Heroes" board on this site - the list of Service Records is evidence that we have very many current and former military personnel. Also - look at the activity on the LE / Fire / EMS board - a lot of people exchanging information over there.
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Link Posted: 12/26/2002 2:13:03 AM EST
I'm former LEO and a [b]WACO[/b] type!
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 2:14:49 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/26/2002 2:17:32 AM EST by Ire]
I think that what she is referring to is how the media painting those people. You know, criminals.
Originally Posted By BBossman: I'm former LEO and a [b]WACO[/b] type!
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Link Posted: 12/26/2002 2:24:17 AM EST
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Link Posted: 12/26/2002 3:11:24 AM EST
Define the categories. IMO... Military: On active duty or honorably retired after 20 or more years. Former Military: Served a hitch or two and seperated. My freinds keep telling me, "You're no longer in the military." I respond, "Yeah, but it's still in me." Eddie
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 3:32:42 AM EST
US Army 1989 - 2002
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 3:32:50 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/26/2002 3:33:15 AM EST by Sukebe]
Former military (active USMC, reserve NG), current LEO (15 years). However, none of those things prevents anyone from being a "whacko". I'm not a tin foil hat type, a conspiracy theorist, a militia or SHTF type either. I don't advocate the violent overthrow of the U.S. Govt. I'm not planning for the great race war or religious cleansing. I don't have self esteem issues or a small penis. I am kind to animals, old people and small children. I don't use drugs or abuse alcohol. I don't cheat on my wife. I work everyday and pay my taxes. I am just an ordinary average guy who owns a few guns and spends a little time on the internet as a diversion.
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 3:42:08 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/26/2002 3:43:34 AM EST by liberty86]
Former military AND wacko...... BTW, does "mall ninja", or rent a cop qualify as "LEO"?? I notice quite a few wannabes here, who aren't really "LEO", but still call themselves one......
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 4:12:43 AM EST
Originally Posted By kpel308: Too bad you can't change the poll to include "Former Military/Current LEO"
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I am in this category also.
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 4:19:59 AM EST
Originally Posted By Ire: I was arguing with someone who says that only 'waco' types go to these boards. I said that is a load of shit, there are many LEOs, Military, and other government employees. So, speak up, and help me prove this idiot wrong
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any chance this person you were arguing with is a LIBERAL jack off?
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 4:30:59 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/26/2002 4:31:13 AM EST by AimSmall]
Originally Posted By redray:
Originally Posted By Ire: I was arguing with someone who says that only 'waco' types go to these boards. I said that is a load of shit, there are many LEOs, Military, and other government employees. So, speak up, and help me prove this idiot wrong
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any chance this person you were arguing with is a LIBERAL jack off?
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[;)] Former Military here...
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 4:55:02 AM EST
USArmy Aviation, Tandem Rotor Mechanic 1965-1968.
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 5:06:03 AM EST
I am in a seperate category.... I went through the entire MEPS thing...only to find out I had a high blood/urine sugar level. I was sent home to have a battery of tests done at the local Path Lab. They in turn sent the results to MEPS and a few weeks later, I recieved all my paperwork back from MEPS with a big rubber stamp on it stating that I was PMD. Permanantly Medically Disqualified. Damn...It was 1989 I was 19 and banking on the Marines as a career. So while I never served in a service, I wanted to, and almost did. But diabetes kept me out. Go figure....
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 6:08:45 AM EST
How'd you guess? This is the same chic that wanted to take me to bowling columbine.
Originally Posted By redray: any chance this person you were arguing with is a LIBERAL jack off?
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Link Posted: 12/26/2002 6:25:10 AM EST
Current LEO and Paramedic
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 6:25:33 AM EST
Originally Posted By Stoney-Point: So while I never served in a service, I wanted to, and almost did. But diabetes kept me out. Go figure....
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Hey, you could have joined the USAF - according to a vocal minority on the board all we did was drink coffee and eat donuts, anyway. [:D] A similar thing is happpening to a good friend of mine. The USMC will not take him due to his lack-of-height. He is still trying to get in and it really disappoints me - he would be a great Marine and a great Officer. -934, former USAF (89-94) and just a civilian now.
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 6:30:43 AM EST
Originally Posted By Ire: ... It's these damn tree huggin yahoos that don't.
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Ya can't fix stupid.
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 6:31:07 AM EST
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 6:32:42 AM EST
Former military and still a war horse. Dept of Army civilian. Working on the armament side of the latest and greatest Abrams tank. Saddam ain't seen this one yet!! Heeheehee. The fire control does everything but pull the trigger.
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 6:37:14 AM EST
What Sukebe said pretty much describes me. Former active duty, current LEO, current reservist. (Though the difference between reserve and active is getting smaller every day) I even lived in Waco for a time. Set your friend up with a police ridealong. She won't be liberal by the end of the night. There are some people you just cannot reach though. Lib, what wannabe's? I haven't come across any yet on the board.
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 6:37:33 AM EST
Where's the "Group W" bench? Sgtar15
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 6:45:48 AM EST
Walmart Security Golf Cart certified since '98
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 6:45:49 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/26/2002 6:49:03 AM EST by crumabn]
"waco" as in branch davidians? "waco" as in not quite right in the head? If it's the latter, I'm former military and waco. Edited to add: There are ex military/LEO in the "Militia/ Waco" groups too. Tim McVeigh(the POS) was ex army.
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 6:52:19 AM EST
Wait a minute!! ARe you assuming that if we aren't LEO or Military then we must be wackos?? Why are you using that as a defence?? What does it matter what or who we are? Next time tell these people that the 2nd amendment doesn't discriminate who can and can not own a firearm. SGtar15 PS...That are state that only lesbians go to www.Ms.com
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 8:41:28 AM EST
Hey SGtar15. Here is how the conversation went: Me: Why do hate that site (ar15) so much? Her: It's full of nutcases screwjob waco people Me: Oh, really? what do you mean waco? Her: a bunch of satanic freaks with guns Me: you know, it's your right to own a firearm regardless of what or who you worship. Her: Well, I bet the police would love to know about that site. Me: Well, they do. Some of the members are active police officers and military Her: Yeah right. What police officer or soldier would even want to go there? Anyhow, we went on and on and you figure out where it ended up. It got me to wondering how many, anyhow and this poll.
Originally Posted By sgtar15: Wait a minute!! ARe you assuming that if we aren't LEO or Military then we must be wackos?? Why are you using that as a defence?? What does it matter what or who we are? Next time tell these people that the 2nd amendment doesn't discriminate who can and can not own a firearm. SGtar15 PS...That are state that only lesbians go to www.Ms.com
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Link Posted: 12/26/2002 9:02:55 AM EST
Twelve year US Army veteran here. Tours included: Ft. Sill, OK Camp Greaves, S. Korea Ft. Lewis, WA Desert Shield/Storm '90-'91
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 9:05:54 AM EST
Oooohh...I just noticed that the above post was #666...I guess that makes me one of the "satanic freaks with guns". [rolleyes]
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 9:13:04 AM EST
Hey Ire, I was a teacher in NYC...Does that make me fmr Mil, fmr Gov or BOTH>! ww
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 10:10:51 AM EST
Ire, well it looks like you do understand!! Good job defending this site. I am glad that we are on the same page. Personnaly, I don't bother with people like that anymore....they just piss me off to much and I am tired of killing.[;)] Sgtar15
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 10:48:29 AM EST
Former USAF LE, now a businessman.
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 10:56:33 AM EST
Forgot to mention, I am a Nam vet and the media thinks we're all wacko. Blamed us for the DC area killings before they had suspects. "...must be a Viet Nam veteran..."
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 11:03:02 AM EST
You left out my catagory as well as quite a few others here, former LE and former military. 8.5 years Army, 2.5 as LE for me.
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 11:05:52 AM EST
no do to stapels in ankle they wouldnt take me.
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 11:11:42 AM EST
Former Active Duty. Current reservist (USNR) and a Paramedic......
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 11:25:31 AM EST
You know...it might actually be more helpful if we posted our civilian occupations here. That way, she could see that we have people from all walks of life, not just current/former military/LEO. Network Engineer here.
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 11:36:32 AM EST
Retired Army Paratrooper...now LEO...
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 11:38:14 AM EST
FTN
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 12:11:40 PM EST
formally usn (ew2); currently computer technican... seems to me that a lot of people are unaware or disrespectful towards america's "warrior" class. we are the people who stand up when called upon to defend... it's only natural we may wish to collect tools of the trade when we get a little older...
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 12:43:41 PM EST
Former military here, prepared but not crazy...Just ready.
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 12:57:57 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/26/2002 1:01:04 PM EST by FREEFALLE6]
Im a Paratrooper in the 82nd airbone division. Me behind the house in my new combat attire:[img]http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL76/709417/1194623/17465966.jpg[/img] a pic of me at the National training center in california oh damn I have a "ASSUALT WEAPON"!!!!![img]http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL76/709417/1194623/17466499.jpg[/img] and the strange suppresor is where I used ms paint to remove the blank adapter.
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 1:12:04 PM EST
Current LEO Former USMC Neither a "WACO type" or "JBT".
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 1:28:20 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/26/2002 1:31:10 PM EST by QuietShootr]
Former active duty Army Infantry Current NG 97B I have a bachelor's in criminology and am almost finished with a second degree in computer science. I work in audiovisual systems integration.
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 3:29:33 PM EST
Former military leo - 95B
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 3:34:54 PM EST
USMC 1966-1969 AIRBORNE Air Delivery(Rigger) Indiana NG 1973 Rigger for a Ranger Co.
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 4:09:49 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/26/2002 4:12:45 PM EST by LWilde]
Originally Posted By Ire: Hey SGtar15. Here is how the conversation went: Me: Why do hate that site (ar15) so much? Her: It's full of nutcases screwjob waco people Me: Oh, really? what do you mean waco? Her: a bunch of satanic freaks with guns Me: you know, it's your right to own a firearm regardless of what or who you worship. Her: Well, I bet the police would love to know about that site. Me: Well, they do. Some of the members are active police officers and military Her: Yeah right. What police officer or soldier would even want to go there? Anyhow, we went on and on and you figure out where it ended up. It got me to wondering how many, anyhow and this poll.
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THAT young wench seems to be rather ignorant and just a little foolish to make a statement like that without really knowing who we are. Why don't you enlighten her...if she is willing to sit her poorly educated little liberal butt down and listen up for a minute. In fact...the ARFCOMers are: -LEOs -Historians -Scientists -Astrophysicists -Active duty, NG/reserves and retired military -Physicians, nurses and paramedics -Firefighters -Electricians -Tin benders -Network geeks -Mathmeticians -Teachers (Yea...teachers!) -Union thugs ([b]Not really!)[/b][;D] -Pilots -Mechanics -Housewives and mothers -Salespersons -Stock brockers -Government slugs from every level of federal, state and municipal tax stealing organizations ([b] I'm just kidding guys!!!)[/b][;D] -Financial wizards -Automakers -Unemployed & idle rich -Why...we even have at LEAST one attorney hereabouts! Anyone seen the Hun lately? (Please! I don't mean to insult anyone if I have left your occupation out...it was NOT intentional.) We are also fathers, mothers, grandparents, youts, kids and old farts like me. Many of us are hunters and recreational shooters. Most believe strongly in our RKBA. In short, we represent a fairly broad spectrum of socio-economic America. (Hell, I think you might even find a liberal or two lurking around here somewhere.) I happen to be retired military (28 years). I now do pretty well as a consultant for a DoD contracting firm. I am definitely not what one might consider to be a "whacko". I am NOT satanic nor to I practice any of the dark arts. I AM actutely aware of my rights under our Constitution especially the Second Amendment. I wonder...does your little friend know the Constitution? Many among us defended your friend's right to say silly things like that...but before she opens her mouth again and sticks her foot in up to the knee, you might wish to calibrate her. [b]Wacko types are not the only ones on these boards.[/b]
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 6:37:03 PM EST
Former Marine(recon)
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 7:23:37 PM EST
Originally Posted By OldTiger: Forgot to mention, I am a Nam vet and the media thinks we're all wacko. Blamed us for the DC area killings before they had suspects. "...must be a Viet Nam veteran..."
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I buy you guys books. I send you to school, and all you seem to do is eat the covers. Dammit! Get it straight! You are a DRUG ADDICTED DERANGED ANTI-SOCIAL BABY KILLING DISGRUNTLED Vietnam Veteran... Where is your PRIDE! Don't you remember when one of us alone in half the time could do more damage than 37 whacked out Postal workers? Remember when mothers would drag their kids out of our paths? Sheesh! Get back with it! BTW Former Army 3 years. Early 70s. (Check out a similar thread I posted a while back in the Vererans forum)gfb
Link Posted: 12/26/2002 7:35:28 PM EST
Answering for my DAD: Form USAF, and Houston PD Ret.
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