where is it at. I read somewhere it was extremely cheap. Does anyone still sell it?

PiMP ammo?

South African stuff?

I got a case for a damn good price a few years ago (before the shortage), but I haven't seen any lately.

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South African, real good stuff. Had a 1000 rounds of PMP .45 and shot it all thru my Sig p220. Clean and accurate, reloadable.

Used to buy it by the case.  It dried up years ago though.  Maybe banned from import?

i wish someone would find it for me. i suck at searching the net for stuff.

I think it was banned for import, I think

PMP (Pretoria Metal Pressings /Denel)) is GREAT AMMO!!!

I still shoot there .243Win. SP for deer hunting (South Africans know a thing or two about hunting doncha-know ) I bought several cases of it back in 2001.

Century was the importer. I used to buy 9x19mm 115gr.FMJ for $.09/round delivered to my door (yes, less than a dime per round). I bought it 5K at a time to get the free delivery. That was good ammo too. Full powered and clean running unlike WWB.

.45acp, 7.62x39, .223 &5.56 it was all good!



I e-mailed them a while ago and got a very nice response that told me that they currently were not importing into the U.S. but that they were hoping to in the "near future'. That was more than a couple years ago. I do not believe there is any legal reason why they cannot import into the U.S. South Africa is PC now

If you do a little internet search, you will find that PMP gets high marks for both its hunting ammunition and its small & medium caliber military offerings.

I do recall reading a story about the current South African government spanking PMP's collective PeePee for selling on the international commercial marketplace, military ammunition that the South African government had ordered but refused to pay for.

I have shot 1 case of PMP over the years. I just reload now unless .223 ammo prices drop.

If Bryan from AIM, enters this thread he will be able to give you a history.  In the late 90's it was coming out of South Africa and was cheap.  Well under $200/1000.  I bought 3 or 4 cases at that time, wish I had bought 10 or more.  It is great plinking ammo and reloadable, but the cases are very heavy, 105 grs compared to most 223 brass weighing 95 grs.

I don't think you will find any for sale unless someone is selling an old stash.

I would assume it is/was following NATO specifications.  What is the weight variation for NATO brass?  The extra weight will reduce the cavity area and the maximum load.



 

I shot a kudu in South Africa with 30-06 PMP.

30 pieces
Avg - 104.8
Std Dev - 0.74 (typical)
Min - 103.3
Max - 106.8
Median - 104.9
ES - 3.5


For comparison
Winchester (both Winchester and WCC head stamp)
30 pieces
Avg - 93.7
Std Dev - 0.75
Min - 92.0
Max - 94.9
Median - 93.9
ES - 2.9