i am running Batterfield 2 on
Intel Cereon 2.8 Ghz
1 G 2700PC DDR Ram (2x 512mb)
ATI Radeon 9600XT

of course SBC DSL PRO...

Athalon 3600 HT
2 gigs Ram
Geforce 5700 fx


theres the important stuff

None.

I am running a brand new SLI setup to play Battlefield 2.

Athlon64 X2 4600+ (Manchester core)

2 Gb Mushkin 2-2-2 special, PC3200 (2-2-2-5 timings) 4x512 sticks

Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe motherboard

2x 400 gig hard drives, 2x 250 gig hard drives, 1 WD Raptor 10,000 RPM  hard drive 36.6 gb

Soundblaster Audigy 2zs

2x EVGA 6800 Ultra 256mb cards, in SLI

Dual Monitors, both Samsung 172x flat panel 17" monitors.

Razor Diamondback mouse

OCZ Power Supply

Water cooling on the video cards and the processor.

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BF2 runs great

amd 3200+ overclocked
ati x800xtpe overclocked/voltmodded
1gb of corsair xms overclocked

A64 3500+ (Winchester) OC'd to 2.4 Ghz (3.8Ghz P4 equivalent)
Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe
ATI X850XT PE   @590mhz core X 595 mhz memory (I know, why get an ATI when you have an SLI MB.....future proofing)
1 GB Ballistix 2-2-2-5 @ DDR400
Sucky ass 17" monitor

wat up with everyone using AMD??????????????
INTEL NOT GOOD ???

Quoted: wat up with everyone using AMD?????????????? INTEL NOT GOOD ???

More bang for the buck with gaming and AMD.  If you are doing video editing, or sound editing go with Intel, but AMD slaps Intel around like a bitch when using gaming apps.

ATI X850XT PE  @590mhz core X 595 mhz memory (I know, why get an ATI when you have an SLI MB.....future proofing)

Whats wrong w/ getting an ATI to use with an SLI board?  Won't ATI gpu's run double in SLI mode?  Or am I missing something?

MB: Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe
CPU: AMD Athalon XP 3000+
RAM: 1 GB DDR400 PC3200
HD: SATA Maxtor 120 GB
VID: ATI Radeon AIW 8500DV (only 64 meg vram)
MOUSE: Logitech MX518 gaming mouse 1600 dpi.
Net: Cable 3000-3500 kbps/ 400-512 kbps

Plays pretty smoothly and still looks nice with the ancient and bleow spec video card. Definitely over due for a graphic card upgrade. I will probably go add another 1 Gb of RAM soon also.

Quoted: ATI X850XT PE  @590mhz core X 595 mhz memory (I know, why get an ATI when you have an SLI MB.....future proofing) Whats wrong w/ getting an ATI to use with an SLI board?  Won't ATI gpu's run double in SLI mode?  Or am I missing something?

AFAIK SLI is for Nvidia cards only.  ATI has a similar technology for running two cards called CROSSFIRE, but this requires a motherboard with a chipset that specifically supports CROSSFIRE.

AMD AlthonXP 3000 Barton (400MHz)
Gigabyte GA-7VAXP-A Motherboard (KT400 Chipset)
Chaintech GeForce FX5700 128MB
1GB (2x512) DDR PC3200-400MHz Memory
1x 80GB Western Digital IDE HDD
2x 120GB Maxtor IDE HDD (RAID 0)

ETA: Welcome to the site

Quoted: Quoted: ATI X850XT PE  @590mhz core X 595 mhz memory (I know, why get an ATI when you have an SLI MB.....future proofing) Whats wrong w/ getting an ATI to use with an SLI board?  Won't ATI gpu's run double in SLI mode?  Or am I missing something? AFAIK SLI is for Nvidia cards only.  ATI has a similar technology for running two cards called CROSSFIRE, but this requires a motherboard with a chipset that specifically supports CROSSFIRE.

Yep.  SLI is nvidia exclusive.  Last I heard, there were some serious issues with getting crossfire to even work properly.

Nvidia - the way its meant to be played

Acer 8100 laptop
512mb DDR2 533mhz
PCI express
1.9ghz 2mb cache Pentium M
Radeon Mobility X700

it can keep up with the big boys

I'm playing on a homebuilt system, keeping all details at about medium, res at 1024x768 I think, with no problems on my end, though on 64 player servers it lags a bit.  
Got a AMD athlon 64 3200+
ASUS K8V Pro mobo
1.5 Gigs generic ram
MSI geforce 6600gt 128mb
80gb 7200 rpm main drive
120gb 7200 rpm storage drive
all on mediacom cable.

My main computer:
P4 2.8E @ 3.2
Gigabyte 8IK1100 rev2
Patriot 1GB PC3200 @ 230/460mhz CL2.5 Dual channel
ATi 9500 Pro


Can play BF2 with 1024x768@85 with all settings at medium

My second computer:
AMD XP-M 2600 @ 2.2
Abit NF7-S v2 (Not S2)
Kingston 512MB PC3200 Dual Channel
ATi 9700 Pro


I have it set at 1024x768@75 with all settings at medium.

Both of my computers run great on 16/32/64 player servers, the second is lacking in ram so it gets some lag for the first 5 minutes of game play till it can load into the page file.

2.4ghz P4
512meg ram
ATI Radeon 9500 Pro with 128meg
120gig main drive, 80gig backup drive
Comcast Cable

I'm playing in 1024x768 with most stuff set to medium, I think. I do ok on 16 and 32, but 64s arent very good.

I'm thinking about upgrading to a faster system with RAID'ed harddrives (losing all my class data and MP3s right before my last semester of undergrad to a harddrive crash sucked ass, at least it was under warranty), more ram and definitely a better video card, the current one would become my server if I can find an older LCD monitor from work that nobody cares about.

Kharn

Quoted: Quoted: ATI X850XT PE  @590mhz core X 595 mhz memory (I know, why get an ATI when you have an SLI MB.....future proofing) Whats wrong w/ getting an ATI to use with an SLI board?  Won't ATI gpu's run double in SLI mode?  Or am I missing something? AFAIK SLI is for Nvidia cards only.  ATI has a similar technology for running two cards called CROSSFIRE, but this requires a motherboard with a chipset that specifically supports CROSSFIRE.

This is correct.  You have to get a MB with an Ati chipset, and then Crossfire is a bit different then SLI in how it actually works.  With Crossfire you have a "master" card that can be paired with another "slave" card of the same GPU type.  Whereas with SLI, there is not master or slave.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: ATI X850XT PE  @590mhz core X 595 mhz memory (I know, why get an ATI when you have an SLI MB.....future proofing) Whats wrong w/ getting an ATI to use with an SLI board?  Won't ATI gpu's run double in SLI mode?  Or am I missing something? AFAIK SLI is for Nvidia cards only.  ATI has a similar technology for running two cards called CROSSFIRE, but this requires a motherboard with a chipset that specifically supports CROSSFIRE. Yep.  SLI is nvidia exclusive.  Last I heard, there were some serious issues with getting crossfire to even work properly. Nvidia - the way its meant to be played

Bah! Throw me up against ANY *single* Nvidia gpu except the new 7800GTX and my X850XT PE will stomp it into the ground and piss on it.  Although the 6800 Ultra will keep up and maybe have a few FPS (as in 3-5) faster in OPEN GL games *ONLY*.  Otherwise, if it is a D3D game, proceed with the stomping and pissing (such as farcry....battlefield 2....ect..).



ETA: When the R520 comes out (X900XT) it will bend over the 7800GTX without any lube.

1.4 Intel Celeron with HT
512mb of RAM.
ATI Radeon Mobility 9000.

If you can figure out how the hell this can run Bf2, please tell me. . . .

Quoted: 1.4 Intel Celeron with HT 512mb of RAM. ATI Radeon Mobility 9000. If you can figure out how the hell this can run Bf2, please tell me. . . .

Um, if you're lucky that will run Battlefield 1942.

Kharn

Intel P4 3.0Ghz   1MB Chache
2GB low latency 2-2-2-5 RAM (Corsair XMS)
MSI GeForce 6800GT 256MB
Raid 40GB WD 10,000 rpm raptor drives (x2)
Soundblaster Aud 2ZS

"More bang for the buck with gaming and AMD. If you are doing video editing, or sound editing go with Intel, but AMD slaps Intel around like a bitch when using gaming apps."

Disagree. (Hey...I HAVE to.)

Hey, remember this?
This table provides all the necessary information about the new value CPU series from AMD and Intel. I’d only like to draw your attention to one thing. The ratings of Semprons are assigned according to different rules than the ratings of the Athlon XP or 64. For example, Athlon XP CPUs of the same ratings as Semprons have a higher performance due to a higher clock rate and a bigger amount of the cache memory. So why does AMD apply a new rating system to the Sempron? The answer is simple as soon as you take a look at the prices the manufacturers set for their products:



The official price lists are compiled in such a way that every Celeron D model has a Sempron counterpart with a rating equal to the frequency of that Celeron D. It is on this basis that AMD compares its Semprons with Celeron D models and claims superiority of its processors, though only in Winstone and SYSmark (AMD says nothing about how the Sempron compares to the Celeron D in games, for example).

 Ah...the good old days.

Don't get me wrong, AMD has a damned good product...no argument here. BUT...check the processor temp sometimes and form your own conclusions. My extra $$ spent for an upgraded CPU cooling fan would even out any price increase if I was 100% neutral, here.

Regardless of all the mumbo-jumbo/smoke and mirror show that ALL big corporations toss at us....buy what you can afford at the time and pay attention to future upgrade compatability.

Just my two cents worth while surfing around ARFCOM tonight.
Rock on, all!

The Sempron and Celeron D arnt exactly preferred gaming processors.

let see some Athlon64 vs Pentium 4 graphs.

I must say the Pentium M ownes everything in the moble market.
Im a AMD desktop Intel Moble guy.

I aim to please.

The following was selfishly stolen by myself to make a simple point that ANYONE can gather data to support a claim and potentially sway opinion. If i worked for AMD...guess who i would be pushing for? It's just human nature not to bite the hand that feeds you. That noted, the following benchmarks WERE actually performed and I have NOT altered the results in any way. (Just making a point regarding the so called "spanking" AMD supposedly gives Intel. You'll see it's not always the case...even during the gaming benchmarks.)

All things considered, AMD and Intel are sharing a couple of strategies today with their flagship CPUs. For one, they are both "simply" remarking a server grade CPU and calling it a desktop unit. They are also asking for many hundreds of dollars for the privilege of owning one. Yep, it's "OUCH" any way you turn, huh?

Now, the test subjects:

AthlonFX 51 2.2GHz - Asus SK8N (nForce3 Pro) retail mainboard (using supplied AMD BIOS), (2X512MB) 1GB Legacy CAS 2.5 DDR400 (2.5,3,3,6), ATI Radeon 9700 Pro w/ ATI Catalyst 3.7 drivers, 40GB Maxtor ATA133 HDD, Windows XP w/SP1 and DX9B.

Athlon64 3200+ 2.0GHz - MSI K8T Neo (VIA K8T800) & Shuttle AN50R (nForce3 150), (2X512MB) 1GB Corsair CAS 2.0 DDR400 (2,3,2,5) ATI Radeon 9700 Pro w/ ATI Catalyst 3.7 drivers, 40GB Maxtor ATA133 HDD, Windows XP w/SP1 and DX9B.

Intel Pentium 4 Extreme Edition & Non-EE 3.2GHz/800MHz - Intel Bonanza Desktop (i875P), (2X512MB) 1GB Corsair CAS 2.0 DDR400 (2,3,2,5), ATI Radeon 9700 Pro w/ ATI Catalyst 3.7 drivers, 40GB Maxtor ATA133 HDD, Windows XP w/SP1 and DX9B.

AthlonXP 3200+ - Asus A7N8X (nForce2 Ultra 400), (2X512MB) 1GB Corsair CAS 2.0 DDR400 (2,3,2,5) ATI Radeon 9700 Pro w/ ATI Catalyst 3.7 drivers, 40GB Maxtor ATA133 HDD, Windows XP w/SP1 and DX9B.

Music Benchmark
dBPower Amp used to convert a Frank Zappa 100MB .wav file to MP3 using LAME.


Gaming Benchmarks



The Quake3 engine in its original configuration is one that has huge payoffs if the CPU has to pull across the memory bus for information. Intel and their Pentium 4 Extreme Edition are still hands down the king in the eyes of the Quake gods.

Looking at where the AthlonXP 3200+ used to come in, the new AthlonFX and Athlon64 have pulled a coup of their own. All of the new contenders show strong numbers. The original Quake 3 has turned into a very valuable CPU scaling benchmark even though the frame rates represented are not valuable as actual gaming references.

Jedi Night 2

Jedi Knight has proven to be a good CPU benchmark over the last year. It's also a Quake3 engine game, so you would expect to see the same scaling as above and we do. While the Pentium 4 EE does not run away with the show, it still scores a bit of a lead over the AthlonFX and Athlon64.

Comanche 4


to be continued....(I need a cigar and the deck, right now.)

AMD Athlon XP 2000 @ 1.7 GHz
1GB 2700 RAM
Radeon 9600 XT

AMD Athlon 3000
1 gig of RAM
Geoforce 6800gt

well, I havent put my computer together but thats what I have.

Quoted: "More bang for the buck with gaming and AMD. If you are doing video editing, or sound editing go with Intel, but AMD slaps Intel around like a bitch when using gaming apps." Disagree. (Hey...I HAVE to.) Hey, remember this? This table provides all the necessary information about the new value CPU series from AMD and Intel. I’d only like to draw your attention to one thing. The ratings of Semprons are assigned according to different rules than the ratings of the Athlon XP or 64. For example, Athlon XP CPUs of the same ratings as Semprons have a higher performance due to a higher clock rate and a bigger amount of the cache memory. So why does AMD apply a new rating system to the Sempron? The answer is simple as soon as you take a look at the prices the manufacturers set for their products: i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/Intelguy01/price.png The official price lists are compiled in such a way that every Celeron D model has a Sempron counterpart with a rating equal to the frequency of that Celeron D. It is on this basis that AMD compares its Semprons with Celeron D models and claims superiority of its processors, though only in Winstone and SYSmark (AMD says nothing about how the Sempron compares to the Celeron D in games, for example).  Ah...the good old days. Don't get me wrong, AMD has a damned good product...no argument here. BUT...check the processor temp sometimes and form your own conclusions. My extra $$ spent for an upgraded CPU cooling fan would even out any price increase if I was 100% neutral, here. Regardless of all the mumbo-jumbo/smoke and mirror show that ALL big corporations toss at us....buy what you can afford at the time and pay attention to future upgrade compatability. Just my two cents worth while surfing around ARFCOM tonight. Rock on, all!

Uhh, 90% of the Intel CPU's are have seen reviewed are hotter then a comparable AMD, so there is no basis there.  And all of the benchmarks that I base my opinion on are from hardware review sites and personal experience, not from an AMD or Intel marketing person.

3100+ sempron
asus k8n-e deluxe
evga 5700 ultra
1gig ram
2 80 gig seagates
Razor Diamondback mouse
turtle beach soundcard

i work in a computer shop and i can tell u intel runs alot hotter then amd does it used to be the other way around a few years ago. my sempron normally runs under 100 degrees unless i play bf2  for many hours and then the highest i have seen it is 104 ferenhiet. intels i have seen running 160 ferenhiet at idle.

sae057 says:
"Uhh, 90% of the Intel CPU's are have seen reviewed are hotter then a comparable AMD, so there is no basis there. And all of the benchmarks that I base my opinion on are from hardware review sites and personal experience, not from an AMD or Intel marketing person."



If interested in the heat issues, copy this into your browser:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/p4-temp.html

Intel's CPUs are DESIGNED to run at certain temps. AMDs may run cooler, but are they DESIGNED to run at a specific temp? (This is an interesting article...I learned a LOT reading this.)

By the way...my PCs are FREE. (I did, however just make a trade for a Dell Optiplex for an SKS...The dell is for surfing.) My free PCs just happen to include Intel processors...I boost performance by using upgraded memory and video cards...probably just like everyone else that tries to save the world from the evil Nazis or the slithering space aliens via thier PC. If I were using an AMD processor...I would still do the same thing.

I don't market for anyone...I'm a blue-collar worker...I just turn wrenches and grab the paycheck when they hand it to me.

I didn't mean for this to turn into a "Chevy vs. Ford" argument. Soooo......I'm about to upgrade my video card to 256...any suggestions or real user reviews out there?

1.8 Celeron, 1.256G ram, and Geforce 5500

AMD XP 2800
NVIDIA GeForce 6600GT 128mb
MSI Mobo
512 DDR ram
19" Standard crt
53x CD-Rom
80gig HD 7200RMP
Round custom cables
6 fans (not including Video card fan)
Antec mid case
CA surround speakers
CLabs PCI 512 sound card

Runs great with no problems. I just changed out the video card to the 6600GT. Got rid of a 3 month old GeForce 4 Ti 4400. I will be getting 1gig DDR Ram soon


Question: What refresh rate should I set my monitor to? It's not on 60hz. Should I go higher?

Machine name: BADROC1
  Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519)
          Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Dell Inc.                
      System Model: Dimension 8400              
              BIOS: Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A04
         Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz (2 CPUs)
            Memory: 1022MB RAM
         Page File: 251MB used, 2208MB available
512 mb DDR2 Kingston Ram x2
Card name: RADEON X700 Series
    Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
       Chip type: RADEON X700 PRO (0x5E4B)
        DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
      Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5E4B&SUBSYS_23021002&REV_00
  Display Memory: 256.0 MB
    Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)
         Monitor: Plug and Play MonitorATI RADEON X700 PCIE
Description: Sound Blaster Live! 24-bit
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
           Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0007&SUBSYS_10071102&REV_00
       Manufacturer ID: 1
            Product ID: 100
                  Type: WDM
           Driver Name: P17.sys
        Driver Version: 5.12.0001.0315 (English)
     Driver Attributes: Final Retail
           WHQL Logo'd: Yes
         Date and Size: 6/9/2004 11:16:44, 840960 bytes
           Other Files:
       Driver Provider: Creative
        HW Accel Level: Full
             Cap Flags: 0xF5F
   Min/Max Sample Rate: 4000, 96000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 64, 62
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 64, 62
             HW Memory: 0
      Voice Management: Yes
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
  I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
              Registry: OK
     Sound Test Result: Not run

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Sound Capture Devices
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           Description: Sound Blaster Live! 24-bit
 Default Sound Capture: Yes
 Default Voice Capture: Yes
           Driver Name: P17.sys
        Driver Version: 5.12.0001.0315 (English)
     Driver Attributes: Final Retail
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Quoted: 1.8 Celeron, 1.256G ram, and Geforce 5500

I figured you for a "Play Station" kind of guy.  

Case: Aspire X-Superalien (blue)
Power Supply: ANTEC True480
MB: ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe
Video Card: ASUS GeForce FX5950 Ultra 256MB
CPU:Intel P4 3.4C
Memory:Corsair XMS 1GB
Sound CardCreative Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS Platinum
Hard Drive:WD Raptor 74GB (1 of 3)
Optical Drives: Plextor DVD Burner PX-708A and Sony CD/RW
Monitor: Mitsubishi 20" (it's old - soon to be replaced)
               

hot-rodded Dell 400SC
3.2 ghz
1 gig of Ram
200 gig harddrive
16X dvd burner
ATI X800XT All In Wonder (256 meg)
19 inch LCD

plays real nice

intel 640 @ 4ghz
geforce XFX 6600gt
2gb pc4200
15k rpm scsi  
Abit AA8XE

AMD Sempron 2400
1GB PC2700
Gforce 5200

Plays fine

Quoted: I am running a brand new SLI setup to play Battlefield 2. Athlon64 X2 4600+ (Manchester core) 2 Gb Mushkin 2-2-2 special, PC3200 (2-2-2-5 timings) 4x512 sticks Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe motherboard 2x 400 gig hard drives, 2x 250 gig hard drives, 1 WD Raptor 10,000 RPM  hard drive 36.6 gb Soundblaster Audigy 2zs 2x EVGA 6800 Ultra 256mb cards, in SLI Dual Monitors, both Samsung 172x flat panel 17" monitors. Razor Diamondback mouse OCZ Power Supply Water cooling on the video cards and the processor.

Win the lotto or something to afford that? Hopefully you play games full time with that setup.

-d

Intel P4 HT 3.2 ghz
Intel 865GBF Motherboard
1 gig Dual Channel ram @ 400mhz
910 gigs of space (250, 250, 250, 160)
6600 GT AGP 128mb
16x DVD-/+R -/+RW
19" Samsung Flat screen CRT
19" Samsung LCD
Roadrunner 5 mbit cable (Soon to be Verizon FIOS at 30 mbit)

Suprisingly the game runs really well at 1024 with settings on high, no hicups yet.

-d

Dell XPS gaming rig

MCE

p4 3.4

2 gigs of ram

X850XT PE

160 gig hd x2

Soundblaster audigy 2zs

20" lcd widescreen

AMD Athlon XP 2500
1 GB ram
Radaon 9500
kick ass sound blaster with klipsch 5.1 speakers
19" monitor

3000+  64
1Gb ddr-400
6600 GT 128mb PCIex


plays very nice hug.gif

I'm running:
Athlon 3200+ 939 core
Gigabyte Nforce 250GB motherboard
1 gig of 400mhz DDR in dual channel mode
Maxtor SATA 160gig drive
EVGA 6600GT Video card

It runs all my other games like a champ but I can only run Battlefield 2 @ 1024x768 w/ medium settings except high for special effects and textures. I also run 2x Anti-Aliasing with 100% drawing distance.

Too be honest I expected more out of BF2 but there is alot going on in that game.

Athlon 3200+ 400FSB
MSI Nforce Motherboard
1GB Dual Channel PC3200 RAM
EVGA GeForce FX 5700 Ultra 128MB DDR2 Ram
Soundblaster Audigy Gamer
Cable

Runs BF2 with a mix of low and med settings. I am thinking of getting a 6800 Ultra once the prices start coming down, and snice I only have AGP.

AMD Vs Intel

Step 1:
Go to pricewatch.com and pick two processors of similar price.

$270 - Pentium 4 650
$260 - Athlon 64 3700

Step 2:
Go to tomshardware.com and check out the 3DMark03 benchmark...

Athlon 64 3700                       -    1018
Pentium 4 650                         -      996

AMD wins, end of debate.

A64 3200+ Venice @ 2.81Ghz (4200+)
Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe
1024 Corsair XMS PC-3200
6600GT

For a $500 upgrade, I'm satisfied.

Say what you will. I'm an Intel guy.

-d

A64 XP3200 @ 2250mhz
Nvidia 6800GT
1gig of pc3200 memory
DFI Ultra D NF3 motherboard

This is going to be my new machine for taking to my companies BF2 LAN parties, as soon as the video card gets here -

Intel Pentium 4 EE 3.2 (socket 478)
Abit IC7 Max 3 motherboard
1gb Mushkin PC3500, 2-2-2-6 timings
Radeon X850XT PE 256mb video card
Audigy2 zs
Plextor DVD burner
Samsung 200gb hard drive
Razer Diamondback mouse
NEC 1760v 17" LCD monitor

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that ought to make for a pretty good portable machine to pack to the LAN parties, in addition to the system I play with at home, which I posted before.

AMD Sempron 2600 (s754, 1.6GHz)
Chaintech VNF3-250
Crucial 768MB PC2100 (512MB + 256MB)
Gigabyte Radeon 9200
Seagate 7200.8 80GB SATA drive
Sound Blaster Live! Platinum

I think the Seagate drive was the most expensive out of all the different parts (it was like $70.. h,

Next on my list of stuff to purchase is a gig of Crucial PC3200 Value RAM; from what I've heard people are getting that stuff up to 250-260MHz just with a little voltage boost.  hock.gif