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Posted: 2/19/2016 4:29:56 PM EST
Raymond Hughes has a license to carry a gun in Pennsylvania but not in New Jersey.

Hughes says he's been suspended from his job as a sergeant at a state prison. He says he's "one of the good guys."

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Link Posted: 2/19/2016 4:32:43 PM EST
that sucks
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 4:38:28 PM EST
Oh, well, no problem.

Pro gun Christie will be along any minute to straighten this mess right out.
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 4:38:28 PM EST
FNJ
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 4:42:11 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Blacktide:
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Seriously.
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 4:43:55 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Hillbilly69:
Oh, well, no problem.

Pro gun Christie will be along any minute to straighten this mess right out.
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He's actually pardoned quite a few people from neighboring states who were charged with similar "crimes."
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 4:44:02 PM EST
Too bad LEOSA doesn't cover corrections officers.

Link Posted: 2/19/2016 4:44:40 PM EST
One of the good guys.

Link Posted: 2/19/2016 4:45:07 PM EST
He says he's "one of the good guys."
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In the eyes of the King and Queen of New Jersey, he's not
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 4:45:31 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Hillbilly69:
Oh, well, no problem.

Pro gun Christie will be along any minute to straighten this mess right out.
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Well we will see now that he isn't running for president now wont we.....
Imp guessing PA DOC isn't sworn LEO covered under HR 218
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 4:47:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By LibertyOrDeath76:


He's actually pardoned quite a few people from neighboring states who were charged with similar "crimes."
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Originally Posted By LibertyOrDeath76:
Originally Posted By Hillbilly69:
Oh, well, no problem.

Pro gun Christie will be along any minute to straighten this mess right out.


He's actually pardoned quite a few people from neighboring states who were charged with similar "crimes."


yep.
it may not help the guy with his job, but at least he won't go to Rapeville state pen.
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 4:49:14 PM EST
Dumbass. It's fucking New Jersey, what the fuck was he fucking thinking?
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 4:50:01 PM EST
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Yup.
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 4:51:40 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Bubbles:
Dumbass. It's fucking New Jersey, what the fuck was he fucking thinking?
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it happens as a former pa resident,its not hard to make a mistake and cross the NJ/MD line...
its not and excuse but i know it happens alot.....
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 4:52:37 PM EST
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Originally Posted By PappyJohn:

Seriously.
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Originally Posted By Blacktide:
FNJ

Seriously.

Link Posted: 2/19/2016 4:53:53 PM EST
Well a lot of "good guys" in NJ get fucked by the law
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 4:56:22 PM EST
I have a CCW in a the state of GA. Before traveling to another state, I would take the... 5 seconds... to check the laws of the state I was traveling to.

It's hard to feel sorry for someone who does something so dumb.
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 4:58:15 PM EST
New Jersey is a police state. It's a lost cause. Stay out and let it rot.

Link Posted: 2/19/2016 4:59:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Alex_F:
Too bad LEOSA doesn't cover corrections officers.

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Pretty sure that depends on what kind of authority the CO has.

Federal BOP COs are covered under LEOSA.
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 5:01:20 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Blacktide:
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+1

What a fucking joke. I take it there is no way for LEOSA to cover him? He's probably not LEO.
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 5:01:55 PM EST
But...the laws I enforce don't apply to me! I'm one of the king's men!
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 5:02:10 PM EST
Zero fuck given. If regular citizens can't carry then neither should special snowflake citizen
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 5:03:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Powerkicker:
But...the laws I enforce don't apply to me! I'm one of the king's men!
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Link Posted: 2/19/2016 5:03:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By LibertyOrDeath76:


He's actually pardoned quite a few people from neighboring states who were charged with similar "crimes."
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Originally Posted By Hillbilly69:
Oh, well, no problem.

Pro gun Christie will be along any minute to straighten this mess right out.


He's actually pardoned quite a few people from neighboring states who were charged with similar "crimes."


I wonder if he will continue to do so, now that his campaign has closed up shop.
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 5:07:51 PM EST
FNJ
FCC
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 5:08:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By runcible:
I have a CCW in a the state of GA. Before traveling to another state, I would take the... 5 seconds... to check the laws of the state I was traveling to.

It's hard to feel sorry for someone who does something so dumb.
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It's easier than you think. Several years back I had a job interview in Kansas City. Wasn't until I was talking with the guy on the way out from the interview that I found out we were about 50 feet into KS. So not only was my CCW no good but the gun in the center console, that is legal without a permit in Missouri, was a felony in KS.
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 5:09:17 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Blacktide:
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Not like the CO sergeant is going to become an active shooter in NJ. Geez, the laws in NJ are AFU. As stated above, FNJ and Kristy Cream.
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 5:12:45 PM EST
The cop that made that arrest is a dolt.
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 5:14:13 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Alex_F:
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Yes it does.
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 5:14:29 PM EST
I have a neighbor who is a retired NYDC police k9 captain from Rikers who carries all of the time with his glock 19 in NY and NJ with his badge attached to his holster ... Is he in violation of LEOSA when he carries in NJ and NY?
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 5:15:47 PM EST
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The cop that made that arrest is a dolt.
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Why?
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 5:16:05 PM EST
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Originally Posted By midnitecreeper:
Well a lot of "good guys" in NJ get fucked by the law
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Yep...majority of the tax payers
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 5:19:32 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Alex_F:
Too bad LEOSA the Constitution doesn't cover corrections officers everyone.

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fify
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 5:20:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Alex_F:
Too bad LEOSA doesn't cover corrections officers.

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I'm a Sergeant in the Delaware DOC. Corrections Officers are covered under LEOSA as long as they meet this criteria (from leosaonline.com)

The LEOSA Act provides for two different categories of LEOSA credentials, 926B and 926C. The qualifications for each of the categories are shown below.


926B - Qualified Actively Serving
-Is authorized by law to engage in or supervise the prevention, detection, investigation, or prosecution of, or the incarceration of any person for, any violation of law.
-Has statutory powers of arrest or authority to apprehend pursuant to section 807(b) of Title 10, United States Code (also known as Article 7(b) of the UCMJ).
-Is authorized by the organization to carry a firearm.
-Is not the subject of any disciplinary action by the organization that could result in suspension or loss of police powers.
-Meets the organization's standards, if any, which require the employee to regularly qualify in the use of a firearm of the same type (e.g., revolver or semiautomatic pistol) as the concealed firearm
-Is not under the influence of alcohol or another intoxicating or hallucinatory drug or substance.
-Is not prohibited by federal law from receiving a firearm.
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 5:21:16 PM EST
No care

If I can get hit with it, he should too.
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 5:21:18 PM EST
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And for that reason, a lot of "Good Guys" leave NJ.


I will be on that list someday.
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 5:22:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Bobby_the_Hun:



And for that reason, a lot of "Good Guys" leave NJ.


I will be on that list someday.
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Originally Posted By Bobby_the_Hun:
Originally Posted By midnitecreeper:
Well a lot of "good guys" in NJ get fucked by the law



And for that reason, a lot of "Good Guys" leave NJ.


I will be on that list someday.

Im not far behind
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 5:22:36 PM EST
Originally Posted By PAspeedmaster:
Hughes says he's been suspended from his job as a sergeant at a state prison. He says he's "one of the good guys".
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Link Posted: 2/19/2016 5:24:11 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Bubbles:
Dumbass. It's fucking New Jersey, what the fuck was he fucking thinking?
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He thought he was special.
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 5:26:51 PM EST
All I'm saying is that if they can make every state accept gay marriage as an incorporated civil right than there is no good reason that they can't force the states to respect a different enumerated incorporated civil right....
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 5:28:34 PM EST
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Originally Posted By elray:


it happens as a former pa resident,its not hard to make a mistake and cross the NJ/MD line...
its not and excuse but i know it happens alot.....
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Originally Posted By elray:
Originally Posted By Bubbles:
Dumbass. It's fucking New Jersey, what the fuck was he fucking thinking?


it happens as a former pa resident,its not hard to make a mistake and cross the NJ/MD line...
its not and excuse but i know it happens alot.....


The only way to get to NJ from PA is to cross the Delaware.
Certainly he noticed he was crossing a bridge into NJ.
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 5:29:32 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ConKeeper:


I'm a Sergeant in the Delaware DOC. Corrections Officers are covered under LEOSA as long as they meet this criteria (from leosaonline.com)

The LEOSA Act provides for two different categories of LEOSA credentials, 926B and 926C. The qualifications for each of the categories are shown below.


926B - Qualified Actively Serving
-Is authorized by law to engage in or supervise the prevention, detection, investigation, or prosecution of, or the incarceration of any person for, any violation of law.
-Has statutory powers of arrest or authority to apprehend pursuant to section 807(b) of Title 10, United States Code (also known as Article 7(b) of the UCMJ).
-Is authorized by the organization to carry a firearm.
-Is not the subject of any disciplinary action by the organization that could result in suspension or loss of police powers.
-Meets the organization's standards, if any, which require the employee to regularly qualify in the use of a firearm of the same type (e.g., revolver or semiautomatic pistol) as the concealed firearm
-Is not under the influence of alcohol or another intoxicating or hallucinatory drug or substance.
-Is not prohibited by federal law from receiving a firearm.
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Originally Posted By ConKeeper:
Originally Posted By Alex_F:
Too bad LEOSA doesn't cover corrections officers.



I'm a Sergeant in the Delaware DOC. Corrections Officers are covered under LEOSA as long as they meet this criteria (from leosaonline.com)

The LEOSA Act provides for two different categories of LEOSA credentials, 926B and 926C. The qualifications for each of the categories are shown below.


926B - Qualified Actively Serving
-Is authorized by law to engage in or supervise the prevention, detection, investigation, or prosecution of, or the incarceration of any person for, any violation of law.
-Has statutory powers of arrest or authority to apprehend pursuant to section 807(b) of Title 10, United States Code (also known as Article 7(b) of the UCMJ).
-Is authorized by the organization to carry a firearm.
-Is not the subject of any disciplinary action by the organization that could result in suspension or loss of police powers.
-Meets the organization's standards, if any, which require the employee to regularly qualify in the use of a firearm of the same type (e.g., revolver or semiautomatic pistol) as the concealed firearm
-Is not under the influence of alcohol or another intoxicating or hallucinatory drug or substance.
-Is not prohibited by federal law from receiving a firearm.

Yep.

I'm a CO/Deputy for a local jail, and right on my department ID it states I'm qualified under 926B.
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Originally Posted By ServiceGun:


The only way to get to NJ from PA is to cross the Delaware.
Certainly he noticed he was crossing a bridge into NJ.
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Originally Posted By ServiceGun:
Originally Posted By elray:
Originally Posted By Bubbles:
Dumbass. It's fucking New Jersey, what the fuck was he fucking thinking?


it happens as a former pa resident,its not hard to make a mistake and cross the NJ/MD line...
its not and excuse but i know it happens alot.....


The only way to get to NJ from PA is to cross the Delaware.
Certainly he noticed he was crossing a bridge into NJ.



Link Posted: 2/19/2016 5:41:46 PM EST
PA Corrections are not Law Enforcement. Their academy is only like three weeks long.
The arresting officer was ordered to make the arrest several days later.
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Originally Posted By ServiceGun:


The only way to get to NJ from PA is to cross the Delaware.
Certainly he noticed he was crossing a bridge into NJ.
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Originally Posted By ServiceGun:
Originally Posted By elray:
Originally Posted By Bubbles:
Dumbass. It's fucking New Jersey, what the fuck was he fucking thinking?


it happens as a former pa resident,its not hard to make a mistake and cross the NJ/MD line...
its not and excuse but i know it happens alot.....


The only way to get to NJ from PA is to cross the Delaware.
Certainly he noticed he was crossing a bridge into NJ.


lol. yup,thank god for that bridge.

Link Posted: 2/19/2016 5:59:46 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
It doesn't? did not know that
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
Originally Posted By Alex_F:
Too bad LEOSA doesn't cover corrections officers.

It doesn't? did not know that



NJ Corrections Officers ,State or County are Law Enforcement and covered under the LEOSA . PA officers are not.
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 6:06:34 PM EST
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He exercised incredibly poor judgment.

Pennsylvania corrections officer who says he was the victim of a drunken driving accident in New Jersey ended up facing charges himself when he told police he had a handgun.
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When will people learn to keep their mouths shut when it comes to law enforcement, especially in a police state like New Jersey?
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 6:12:23 PM EST
NJ, not surprised.
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