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Posted: 10/23/2023 2:46:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhatsGnu: Recruiters have a very tough time, it's high stress with impossible quotas to meet and difficult to complete that tour without mucking up your career. I spent a few years providing counseling to recruiters to try to keep them from shooting themselves because of the pressure (US Army Chaplains Corps). Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhatsGnu: Originally Posted By InLove: Originally Posted By SiVisPacem: Going to Ft. Campbell is not necessarily out of the realm of possibility still, even if he does graduate from Airborne School. If he completes Jump School, but fails RASP/RIP, he'll get sent where the Army needs him. That could be ANY Infantry unit in the Army. I spent 2 years as an 11B and 6 as a 13F (Artillery Forward Observer). I did my Infantry time in Germany and my FO time at Fort Campbell. I know plenty of dudes who showed up at Fort Campbell for their first duty assignment after having finished Airborne School. It all depends on how many 5-jump chumps the Alcoholics Anonymous need at the point in time. They may not need many, so some dudes get the chance to earn the Air Assault wings next. He has a 4year contract, will he spend that 4 years as infantry...? I just read that the Army made a MOS for recruiting. If he is smart he would be a recruiter for his last 16yrs...lol Edited to add.. he is an adrenaline junkie. Loves bullriding and extreme dirt bike tracks. Pure ranch boy. Rolled his first teuck at 16yrs old..luckily the cop is a friend and let him off with a warning. He could have gotten all kinds of charges. No license, no insurance, reckless driving. Cop looks at me and said I was the only victim and walked away. Point being.. I doubt he wants a desk job. Recruiters have a very tough time, it's high stress with impossible quotas to meet and difficult to complete that tour without mucking up your career. I spent a few years providing counseling to recruiters to try to keep them from shooting themselves because of the pressure (US Army Chaplains Corps). Yeah fuck recruiting. I was in a battalion scheduled to get decommissioned, so orders were coming down to a ton of guys for drill or recruiting. Soon after I made E4 I got recruiting orders. I spent all my free time figuring out how I was going to dodge that. Thankfully the Katrina deployment delayed my start date for the school. So when new orders came down I didn’t have enough time left on my enlistment contract. So I either had to reenlist or do an initial term refusal statement (basically a letter that said I didn’t have enough time left in and would not reenlist so I did). Orders gone. Recruiting is one of the worst jobs in the Army. |
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Posted: 10/23/2023 10:09:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By InLove: Makes sense to wait till the next cycle. Some SIT got caught with a vape yesterday and he said they are all getting smoked bad for it, his phone time was real short, must be frustrating for the DS, knowing what needs to be done but have their hands tied. What is a SIT? |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 10/23/2023 10:44:11 PM EST
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His sister company lost a warrior today.
https://www.stripes.com/branches/army/2023-10-23/fort-moore-soldier-dies-training-11803850.html |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 10/23/2023 10:46:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Horned_Toad: If he really has an Option 40 contract and has spare time to read, reading Ranger history would be the smart thing to do. Once upon a time, you got tested on it. You also had to have certain things memorized, like the Ranger Creed. The Regiment version not the big army version. Black Hawk Down was on his list.. Got any suggestions, don't know how many books he can have..? |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 10/23/2023 10:49:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Naffenea: What is a SIT? Soldier in training. His commanders letter home references to him as that..lol |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 8:04:25 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By InLove: His sister company lost a warrior today. https://www.stripes.com/branches/army/2023-10-23/fort-moore-soldier-dies-training-11803850.html I hate hearing that, pretty sad. RIP Soldier. 
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 10/24/2023 9:35:02 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By InLove: Black Hawk Down was on his list.. Got any suggestions, don't know how many books he can have..? Should be familiar with Benjamin Church (often overlooked) Robert Rogers Francis Marion (often underrated) John S Mosby (probably out of favor) Ralph Puckett (Honorary Colonel of the Regiment) Should know the start date of the battalions and Creed. As far as books on the above, White Devil was actually well written and I know Puckett has some stuff out. Anything is better than nothing. After that I’m going to bow out. There are much younger people than me in this thread who could comment on what is currently the “thing” to know. While Grenada, Panama, and Somalia where all important building blocks, the Regiment has been pretty busy the last 20 years. IF he makes it, that will be the guys running his world. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 10/24/2023 9:43:03 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MidMichHunter: I hate hearing that, pretty sad. RIP Soldier. He was a month away from graduating OSUT |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 10/24/2023 9:45:06 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Horned_Toad: Should be familiar with Benjamin Church (often overlooked) Robert Rogers Francis Marion (often underrated) John S Mosby (probably out of favor) Ralph Puckett (Honorary Colonel of the Regiment) Should know the start date of the battalions and Creed. As far as books on the above, White Devil was actually well written and I know Puckett has some stuff out. Anything is better than nothing. After that I’m going to bow out. There are much younger people than me in this thread who could comment on what is currently the “thing” to know. While Grenada, Panama, and Somalia where all important building blocks, the Regiment has been pretty busy the last 20 years. IF he makes it, that will be the guys running his world. As he gets closer to RASP I will research some good historical books for him to read. Thank you |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 1:54:21 PM EST
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You may want to check this out: What Are You Reading Now thread.
30+ pages of books ARFCOM Members are/have read. Not everything will be what you're looking for subject wise, but some good books listed. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 10/24/2023 1:56:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MidMichHunter: You may want to check this out: What Are You Reading Now thread. 30+ pages of books ARFCOM Members are/have read. Not everything will be what you're looking for subject wise, but some good books listed. Awesome thread..!! He told me it has to be non-fiction military history. Rouge Warrior may be pushing that line..lol |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 1:53:35 AM EST
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He graduated green.. his aimpro failed during qualifying and got a 30. His DS's couldn't fix it so he had to use his battle buddies rifle.
All his scores were well above passing. Bought himself a ps5 to chill with this weekend at the ABNB and went to Ranger Joe's, infantry museum and fished all night with me last night. Caught tons of catfish.. His GF flew with us and I think they both popped cherries..ugh. Boy is a man.. OSUT starts Tuesday |
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Posted: 11/20/2023 5:58:02 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By InLove: He graduated green.. his aimpro failed during qualifying and got a 30. His DS's couldn't fix it so he had to use his battle buddies rifle. All his scores were well above passing. Bought himself a ps5 to chill with this weekend at the ABNB and went to Ranger Joe's, infantry museum and fished all night with me last night. Caught tons of catfish.. His GF flew with us and I think they both popped cherries..ugh. Boy is a man.. OSUT starts Tuesday Username is hereditary  Congrats to him, and hope he has the time of his life in the AIT portion. |
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Posted: 11/20/2023 8:27:31 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By InLove: He graduated green.. his aimpro failed during qualifying and got a 30. His DS's couldn't fix it so he had to use his battle buddies rifle. All his scores were well above passing. Bought himself a ps5 to chill with this weekend at the ABNB and went to Ranger Joe's, infantry museum and fished all night with me last night. Caught tons of catfish.. His GF flew with us and I think they both popped cherries..ugh. Boy is a man.. OSUT starts Tuesday Congrats to him, he is now a man. Now off to earn his Blue Cord and wings, it gets easier & more fun now. Gotta Love the infantry museum, a must stop for every 11B and parent. From a family with 3 generations that served in the Army, with a current 11B, we thank him for volunteering & wish him the best.  |
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Posted: 11/20/2023 9:47:57 AM EST
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I was at the museum with my son back in 2010
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 9:55:42 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Atropian_Defector: Username is hereditary Congrats to him, and hope he has the time of his life in the AIT portion. His shit eating grin talking about throwing grenades, using grenade launcher, hearing the big booms at a distance. This guy was made for that shit... 17yrs old and having the time of his life. If he does not get selected to go to RASP he has an option 17 to go to Ft.Bliss.. We know nothing of Ft.Bliss or the units he will be with. |
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Posted: 11/20/2023 10:00:24 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SturmgeschutzIII: If you're trying to be a protective dad; don't, and it's too late anyway. lol Recruiter would be one of the last jobs I would want to do in the Army. It is unanimously hated by those who do it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SturmgeschutzIII: Originally Posted By InLove: Looks like they just added that MOS.. https://www.military.com/daily-news/2023/10/03/army-unveils-new-career-track-recruiters-major-overhaul-aimed-bringing-more-soldiers.html I'm going to push this on him..lol If you're trying to be a protective dad; don't, and it's too late anyway. lol Recruiter would be one of the last jobs I would want to do in the Army. It is unanimously hated by those who do it. Our office used to run an anti-suicide counseling program for recruiters - the pressure to meet quotas is intense and unrelenting. Lots of people crack under the strain. Likewise, it's a job I would never volunteer for... it is very often a career wrecker for otherwise good nco's. |
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Posted: 11/20/2023 10:20:01 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capt-Planet: Airborne school is 3 days of training crammed into 3 weeks. Ground week, where you learn about equipment and procedures on the ground. Tower week where you practice exiting a tower. Jump week is where you (surprise) do your five required jumps. They will try to do a nighttime jump, but it's not a graduation requirement. Don't get hurt, pass your PT test, and don't quit and you'll make it. Option 40 is to go to the Ranger Assessment and Selection Program (RASP). RIP hasn't been a thing since like, 2009 or so. In RASP you can expect good training and a lot of PT requirements. They can and will weed people out that are just not a good fit for life in the battalions. It is not a given that attending RASP and not failing means you'll make it to the battalions. If selected at RASP (and completed with airborne school) you will likely go to one of the battalions. Either Georgia or Washington State. RASP is supposed to produce a Ranger that can show up to the battalions ready to slot in and deploy with minimal time to get oriented. They really do try to do training during it, not just haze guys. If not selected at RASP, you will go wherever the Army wants you. It's an increased possibility that it will be NC if you have airborne wings, with a solid chance of literally anywhere else. It could be Italy. It could be Louisiana. Anywhere. Even Chaplains can get through jump school. I worked with several that did. |
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Posted: 11/20/2023 10:27:49 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Johnny_Utah_88: I was at the museum with my son back in 2010 The new museum is incredible. Saying that, the old museum with its creaky floors and moldy smell was the shit. The history just oozed out and on you. They allowed us two hours when I was in OSUT to visit before closing. One of the better days spent riding in a cattle truck. |
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Posted: 11/20/2023 10:41:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By InLove: His shit eating grin talking about throwing grenades, using grenade launcher, hearing the big booms at a distance. This guy was made for that shit... 17yrs old and having the time of his life. If he does not get selected to go to RASP he has an option 17 to go to Ft.Bliss.. We know nothing of Ft.Bliss or the units he will be with. I haven't been to Bliss, but that's an armor base. I hear good things about the base, and bad things about everything surrounding it. The unit won't be particularly high speed, but he can try out for a scout platoon if that's still a thing, and drop a packet for whatever he wants(Ranger, SF, etc) at a later date. Nothing wrong with being regular Inf though. He will stand out amongst his peers and get promoted quickly there if he's squared away like you say he is. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 5:46:20 PM EST
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While books are all well and good, I would suggest you point him in the direction of youtube and have him take a look at RASP and what it entails.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ranger+assessment+and+selection+program There are some people who are producing content on how to prepare and I would say physical fitness is primary. |
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Posted: 11/20/2023 5:55:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SturmgeschutzIII: I haven't been to Bliss, but that's an armor base. I hear good things about the base, and bad things about everything surrounding it. The unit won't be particularly high speed, but he can try out for a scout platoon if that's still a thing, and drop a packet for whatever he wants(Ranger, SF, etc) at a later date. Nothing wrong with being regular Inf though. He will stand out amongst his peers and get promoted quickly there if he's squared away like you say he is. 2/1 has an issue with suicide and their leadership loves licking cow choads. I'm curious when they go back to Korea. |
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Posted: 11/20/2023 5:56:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dskeet: Yeah fuck recruiting. I was in a battalion scheduled to get decommissioned, so orders were coming down to a ton of guys for drill or recruiting. Soon after I made E4 I got recruiting orders. I spent all my free time figuring out how I was going to dodge that. Thankfully the Katrina deployment delayed my start date for the school. So when new orders came down I didn’t have enough time left on my enlistment contract. So I either had to reenlist or do an initial term refusal statement (basically a letter that said I didn’t have enough time left in and would not reenlist so I did). Orders gone. Recruiting is one of the worst jobs in the Army. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dskeet: Originally Posted By WhatsGnu: Originally Posted By InLove: Originally Posted By SiVisPacem: Going to Ft. Campbell is not necessarily out of the realm of possibility still, even if he does graduate from Airborne School. If he completes Jump School, but fails RASP/RIP, he'll get sent where the Army needs him. That could be ANY Infantry unit in the Army. I spent 2 years as an 11B and 6 as a 13F (Artillery Forward Observer). I did my Infantry time in Germany and my FO time at Fort Campbell. I know plenty of dudes who showed up at Fort Campbell for their first duty assignment after having finished Airborne School. It all depends on how many 5-jump chumps the Alcoholics Anonymous need at the point in time. They may not need many, so some dudes get the chance to earn the Air Assault wings next. He has a 4year contract, will he spend that 4 years as infantry...? I just read that the Army made a MOS for recruiting. If he is smart he would be a recruiter for his last 16yrs...lol Edited to add.. he is an adrenaline junkie. Loves bullriding and extreme dirt bike tracks. Pure ranch boy. Rolled his first teuck at 16yrs old..luckily the cop is a friend and let him off with a warning. He could have gotten all kinds of charges. No license, no insurance, reckless driving. Cop looks at me and said I was the only victim and walked away. Point being.. I doubt he wants a desk job. Recruiters have a very tough time, it's high stress with impossible quotas to meet and difficult to complete that tour without mucking up your career. I spent a few years providing counseling to recruiters to try to keep them from shooting themselves because of the pressure (US Army Chaplains Corps). Yeah fuck recruiting. I was in a battalion scheduled to get decommissioned, so orders were coming down to a ton of guys for drill or recruiting. Soon after I made E4 I got recruiting orders. I spent all my free time figuring out how I was going to dodge that. Thankfully the Katrina deployment delayed my start date for the school. So when new orders came down I didn’t have enough time left on my enlistment contract. So I either had to reenlist or do an initial term refusal statement (basically a letter that said I didn’t have enough time left in and would not reenlist so I did). Orders gone. Recruiting is one of the worst jobs in the Army. I agree. It kills careers and soldiers (suicide). |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 6:53:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Strike6: The new museum is incredible. Saying that, the old museum with its creaky floors and moldy smell was the shit. The history just oozed out and on you. Yes it was. Remember the display with the jump school student suspended from the ceiling? |
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Posted: 11/20/2023 6:58:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: WildBoar]
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If he doesnt make it through RIP or RASP as called now he will wind up a leg in Korea most likely Well thats what they use to do. Maybe they changed that/
Hopefully he gets Italy. I friggin loved that duty. I got 3 sets of foreign wings and some schools there. |
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Posted: 11/20/2023 8:34:33 PM EST
[Last Edit: MidMichHunter]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Johnny_Utah_88: I was at the museum with my son back in 2010 Did it in ‘22, here’s a good pic of it from the early morning of OSUT graduation:  Attached FileA bit later:  Attached File |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 10:15:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MidMichHunter: Did it in ‘22, here’s a good pic of it from the early morning of OSUT graduation: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/153483/IMG_6282_jpeg-3034487.JPG A bit later: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/153483/IMG_1433_jpeg-3034488.JPG We got a beautiful pic of my son standing under the flag out front. Looking at it tears me up with fucking pride. This country is still worth serving..!!! |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 10:20:20 PM EST
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He comes home on the 17th of December for three weeks.
I contacted a local knifemaker that is really smooth at forging, I put in for two Fairbairn-Sykes style knives for $1000. I want to give him and his younger brother each one for Christmas. Can he carry one on deployment..? |
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Posted: 11/20/2023 10:29:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By InLove: He comes home on the 17th of December for three weeks. I contacted a local knifemaker that is really smooth at forging, I put in for two Fairbairn-Sykes style knives for $1000. I want to give him and his younger brother each one for Christmas. Can he carry one on deployment..? Even if he can, he'll be far better served with something a LOT less expensive than a $500 custom knife on a deployment. Ignoring the possibility of taking it on a deployment, he won't be able to have it in the barracks. If he's found with it during a health and welfare inspection, he'll most certainly be told to secure it in the arms room (he probably won't get any punishment beyond a negative counseling statement, though that COULD delay a promotion or three). Once it's in the arms room, he can rest assured the armorer will be finger fucking it (just like the armorer fucked with the guns I left in the arms room during my 6 1/2-month Kosovo deployment). He'll be lucky if the worst that happens is the armorer dulls the blade. Of course, with something like a Fairbairn-Sykes, I would expect the armorer to stab it into shit, so the tip MIGHT end up snapped off (ask the custom knifemaker if he'll warranty it against soldier stupidity). |
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Posted: 11/20/2023 10:32:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jsmurphy62: Yes it was. Remember the display with the jump school student suspended from the ceiling? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jsmurphy62: Originally Posted By Strike6: The new museum is incredible. Saying that, the old museum with its creaky floors and moldy smell was the shit. The history just oozed out and on you. Yes it was. Remember the display with the jump school student suspended from the ceiling? I do not remember that. I visited in 1989 when I was in OSUT so that's been 34 years ago. My memory is shot. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 10:40:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Strike6: I do not remember that. I visited in 1989 when I was in OSUT so that's been 34 years ago. My memory is shot. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Strike6: Originally Posted By jsmurphy62: Originally Posted By Strike6: The new museum is incredible. Saying that, the old museum with its creaky floors and moldy smell was the shit. The history just oozed out and on you. Yes it was. Remember the display with the jump school student suspended from the ceiling? I do not remember that. I visited in 1989 when I was in OSUT so that's been 34 years ago. My memory is shot. Happens to the best of us. I visited it a couple of times in the early 80's when I was stationed on Kelley Hill, and took my boys there in the late 90's. That's probably why I remember. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 10:46:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SiVisPacem: Even if he can, he'll be far better served with something a LOT less expensive than a $500 custom knife on a deployment. Ignoring the possibility of taking it on a deployment, he won't be able to have it in the barracks. If he's found with it during a health and welfare inspection, he'll most certainly be told to secure it in the arms room (he probably won't get any punishment beyond a negative counseling statement, though that COULD delay a promotion or three). Once it's in the arms room, he can rest assured the armorer will be finger fucking it (just like the armorer fucked with the guns I left in the arms room during my 6 1/2-month Kosovo deployment). He'll be lucky if the worst that happens is the armorer dulls the blade. Of course, with something like a Fairbairn-Sykes, I would expect the armorer to stab it into shit, so the tip MIGHT end up snapped off (ask the custom knifemaker if he'll warranty it against soldier stupidity). He told me lifetime guarantee...lol Okay. I'll tell him to put it in his safe at home. Any Christmas present you can think of he can deploy with that will make him far more comfortable..? Watch maybe..? |
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Posted: 11/20/2023 11:00:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By InLove: He told me lifetime guarantee...lol Okay. I'll tell him to put it in his safe at home. Any Christmas present you can think of he can deploy with that will make him far more comfortable..? Watch maybe..? Some of my son's last few birthday/Christmas presents since becoming an 11B include: merino wool boot socks dual red/white headlamp aux power bank wiggy's sleeping bag SKD cold weather gloves 11lb bag of whey protein Snugpak Dri-sacs |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 11:49:13 PM EST
[Last Edit: InLove]
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By daemon734: Some of my son's last few birthday/Christmas presents since becoming an 11B include: merino wool boot socks dual red/white headlamp aux power bank wiggy's sleeping bag SKD cold weather gloves 11lb bag of whey protein Snugpak Dri-sacs Smooth..!! Can he wear say a London Bridge plate carrier..? I know it depends on command but is stuff like pmags and such frowned on..? Got him a cool lithium-ion charger that he shares with his battle buddy his DS didn't frown.. push-ups to get it is all.. |
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Posted: 11/21/2023 12:03:33 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By InLove: Smooth..!! Can he wear say a London Bridge plate carrier..? I know it depends on command but is stuff like pmags and such frowned on..? Got him a cool lithium-ion charger that he shares with his battle buddy his DS didn't frown.. push-ups to get it is all.. Pretty much everything is command and unit dependent but I've never heard of pmags being an issue. I've been issued dozens of pmags. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 11/21/2023 12:08:14 AM EST
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I wrote on an envelope that he should have joined the Navy or Space-Force and he said he had a smoke show over that..lol
Actually he asked me to never do it again. I'm sending the same thing on his envelope tomorrow. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 11/21/2023 12:10:49 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By daemon734: Pretty much everything is command and unit dependent but I've never heard of pmags being an issue. I've been issued dozens of pmags. He graduates OSUT in March, I'll have a better outlook on what unit he will be with then. RASP is really light in numbers right now, don't know if that's due to qualified canidates or changing doctrine. He has a chance if his head is ready for it. |
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Posted: 11/21/2023 12:11:09 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By InLove: I wrote on an envelope that he should have joined the Navy or Space-Force and he said he had a smoke show over that..lol Actually he asked me to never do it again. I'm sending the same thing on his envelope tomorrow. Salvation army is better. |
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Posted: 11/21/2023 12:50:19 AM EST
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Originally Posted By InLove: He said there are alot of guys getting recycled due to injuries or mental issues, said when he pulls fire guard he still hears guys crying at night. He said it bothers him cause some are skating through at this point and he knows they shouldn't be there. 
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 11/21/2023 1:09:53 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By daemon734: Salvation army is better. Fuck.. it's that time of season... Just ordered him a Ft.Benning school of wayward boys shirt.. He asked for a grunt style hoodie to give his girl..I raised that kind of fuckstick..lol |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 11/21/2023 1:16:34 AM EST
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Guys are crying at night? Guys? As in BIOLOgICAL MALES? why?
Do they miss their Mama's or SoyLattes? |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 11/21/2023 1:45:42 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azcopwannabee: Guys are crying at night? Guys? As in BIOLOgICAL MALES? why? Do they miss their Mama's or SoyLattes? Evidently a few were momma raised only.. ☆shrug☆ My kid complicated me over the weekend saying he thanked me by being as hard as I was on him whenever I wasn't deployed.. |
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Posted: 11/21/2023 2:37:45 AM EST
[Last Edit: BillofRights]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By InLove: I wrote on an envelope that he should have joined the Navy or Space-Force and he said he had a smoke show over that..lol Actually he asked me to never do it again. I'm sending the same thing on his envelope tomorrow. I know you’re all excited, but don’t fuck with him. What he’s doing is serious. It’s not cool to insert yourself like that in his professional life. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 11/21/2023 6:06:11 AM EST
[Last Edit: CharlieR]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By InLove: He comes home on the 17th of December for three weeks. I contacted a local knifemaker that is really smooth at forging, I put in for two Fairbairn-Sykes style knives for $1000. I want to give him and his younger brother each one for Christmas. Can he carry one on deployment..? If you really want to help him, don't spend money on cool guy gear. Get him a local gym membership for a month. Tell him to research RASP and do heavy PT. Somewhere in this thread you mentioned he is very lightweight and needs to eat more. Bulking up would be wise given the muscle exertion he's going to be doing. What he needs is information, motivation, preparation. Not stuff you can buy. What he wants, like books, is nonessential. Help him with information and he needs to use his time for preparation. Which is mostly physical. Mental is more important. The data is out there. |
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Posted: 11/21/2023 6:17:05 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By InLove: Evidently a few were momma raised only.. ☆shrug☆ My kid complicated me over the weekend saying he thanked me by being as hard as I was on him whenever I wasn't deployed.. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By InLove: Originally Posted By azcopwannabee: Guys are crying at night? Guys? As in BIOLOgICAL MALES? why? Do they miss their Mama's or SoyLattes? Evidently a few were momma raised only.. ☆shrug☆ My kid complicated me over the weekend saying he thanked me by being as hard as I was on him whenever I wasn't deployed.. @InLove I only remember a couple of guys crying at reception. And the dude who woke me up the first night beating the shit out of his dick. We locked eyes and he kept pounding away. Never missed a stroke. That's determination. He wasn't a quitter! I rolled over and went back to sleep. Everyone deals with stress in their own way. The majority of stress relief in the barracks was fights. Some were just pushing and some left teeth on the floor. Can you ask your boy of that's a thing in his unit? |
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Posted: 11/21/2023 11:20:17 AM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Strike6: @InLove I only remember a couple of guys crying at reception. And the dude who woke me up the first night beating the shit out of his dick. We locked eyes and he kept pounding away. Never missed a stroke. That's determination. He wasn't a quitter! I rolled over and went back to sleep. Everyone deals with stress in their own way. The majority of stress relief in the barracks was fights. Some were just pushing and some left teeth on the floor. Can you ask your boy of that's a thing in his unit? He said there is lots of fights, mostly over who is in charge when is comes to teamwork building exercises where they get broken up into 4-5 man teams and try to solve problems. Some get angry when No-one listens to them. My son is 17 and a quiet kid but he has 30yr old guys in there who are coming from other branches or maybe a different MOS and want to be door kickers. So they like to take charge and fight amongst one another, my kid is as green as they come. A ranch kid who is being exposed to different folks with different backgrounds. He wasn't bummed when we had to drop him back off, which I took as a good sign, I read his body language as that is what he wanted to do in life.. Even sitting in the parking lot he had a smile and in fact he was making jokes. He did say he should have considered the Marine Corp a little more cause he thinks their recruits took training a little more serious. He said it's frustrating trying to listen to instructions but has to be interrupted over guys chit chatting in the back and everyone getting smoked which disrupts what it is they are trying to learn. I don't remember having that when I was in boot back in the early 90s. I don't remember anyone being blatantly disrespectful. But that was forever ago. He said the few black inner city kids can't stop talking for the life of them and everyone gets smoked over it. Plus the women are a distraction, he said it's as if they get treated with kids gloves and some guys loose their shit when the women laugh at them. SHARP training has him spooked so he doesn't frat with the females at all. One guy got medical for being suicidal, I guess he just started screaming at the top of his lungs in the middle of the night and started tossing shit. Son said medics came in and rushed him off, probably got offered a position in the Biden administration. A few guys on crutches who aren't sure if they are going to get booted or recycled cause they missed too much training already but have to sit in bleachers and watch all day long. One guy made a racist joke and was booted. Tons of mind fucking, which is understandable |
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Posted: 11/21/2023 11:23:59 AM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillofRights: I know you’re all excited, but don’t fuck with him. What he’s doing is serious. It’s not cool to insert yourself like that in his professional life. They made him drop and do 25 or some shit to get his letter as the DS dropped jokes about the Navy and Space-Force. He laughed. Kid has a great sense of humor...lol Letter is sent this AM.. I put salvation army on it as well this time..lol |
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Posted: 11/21/2023 11:28:36 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CharlieR: If you really want to help him, don't spend money on cool guy gear. Get him a local gym membership for a month. Tell him to research RASP and do heavy PT. Somewhere in this thread you mentioned he is very lightweight and needs to eat more. Bulking up would be wise given the muscle exertion he's going to be doing. What he needs is information, motivation, preparation. Not stuff you can buy. What he wants, like books, is nonessential. Help him with information and he needs to use his time for preparation. Which is mostly physical. Mental is more important. The data is out there. Got your PM.. thank you for taking the time to write that. At this point it's all up to him as what he wants. I just want him to be safe. I wish I read what you wrote while he was on leave, I think he will have his phone on Thanksgiving and I'll try to get a better idea of his mind then. He comes home for a few weeks December 17th. We plan to ruck these 7000' elevated mountains together and talk then. I hope I can keep up. |
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Posted: 11/21/2023 11:31:03 AM EST
[#49]
Originally Posted By Naffenea: 2/1 has an issue with suicide and their leadership loves licking cow choads. I'm curious when they go back to Korea. Well sure, but that can be said of any unit  Originally Posted By SiVisPacem: Even if he can, he'll be far better served with something a LOT less expensive than a $500 custom knife on a deployment. Ignoring the possibility of taking it on a deployment, he won't be able to have it in the barracks. If he's found with it during a health and welfare inspection, he'll most certainly be told to secure it in the arms room (he probably won't get any punishment beyond a negative counseling statement, though that COULD delay a promotion or three). Once it's in the arms room, he can rest assured the armorer will be finger fucking it (just like the armorer fucked with the guns I left in the arms room during my 6 1/2-month Kosovo deployment). He'll be lucky if the worst that happens is the armorer dulls the blade. Of course, with something like a Fairbairn-Sykes, I would expect the armorer to stab it into shit, so the tip MIGHT end up snapped off (ask the custom knifemaker if he'll warranty it against soldier stupidity). That wasn't my experience. A multitool was pretty much required, and many guys bought and carried knives while at work. And certainly on deployment. I had a knife on my plate carrier every time we went to the field. I never heard of anyone getting in trouble for a knife in the barracks or otherwise. Maybe unit dependent? With that being said, he doesn't need gifts. The only thing I wanted after OSUT was food and sleep. |
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Posted: 11/21/2023 11:47:55 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SturmgeschutzIII: Well sure, but that can be said of any unit That wasn't my experience. A multitool was pretty much required, and many guys bought and carried knives while at work. And certainly on deployment. I had a knife on my plate carrier every time we went to the field. I never heard of anyone getting in trouble for a knife in the barracks or otherwise. Maybe unit dependent? With that being said, he doesn't need gifts. The only thing I wanted after OSUT was food and sleep. I think we're in agreement that a good multitool would be a MUCH more useful tool to be gifted than a $500 custom made knife if the idea behind the gift is that it's intended to be used on deployment by an 11B1P. That's not to say Dad shouldn't give the kid the knife, just that it would likely be better kept at home until the kid is at a point in his career where he's not living in the barracks. As for keeping knives in the barracks, my experience was late Cold War Germany and then post-Cold War/pre to early-GWOT (in essence, a peacetime Army where most NCO's weren't experienced combat veterans). In those environments, chickenshit tends to be the order of the day. We were allowed multitools and small folding knives, but anything sexy, such as automatics or large fixed blades, would generally attract attention in garrison. Nobody batted an eye in the field, except to give PVT Snuffy a ration of shit for his $5 ChiCom blade hanging upside down from his LBE shoulder strap. In garrison, though, you'd be at the mercy of your platoon sergeant or First Sergeant during health and welfares. Of course, I ALWAYS hated the hypocrisy of health and welfare inspections. The same asshole who is giving you a ration of shit because you've got a knife, a cleaning kit, a blank adapter or a few M4 mags in your barracks room is the same motherfucker with 7 Tuff boxes full of the same shit in his garage at his quarters. The fact you used the phrase plate carrier tells me you were most likely a GWOT soldier, rather than a peacetime soldier. Unfortunately, the two environments are often quite different in the amount of chickenshit which is tolerated and we seem to be heading further towards a chickenshit-heavy peacetime Army. As such, I would expect more enforcement of rules about knives and other stuff in the barracks, as NCO's become more concerned about their own careers being destroyed because two drunk Joes may cut each other playing with their knives. |
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