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Posted: 1/24/2002 12:02:53 AM EDT
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It is a decent round, yes. When loaded hot, it is near .357 power. However, most factory ammo isn't loaded all that hot, and is FMJ. FMJ loaded hot will often penetrate vests, and has high penetration in general, but doesn't cause huge wounds. Hornady now makes XTP hollowpoints, though, which are much better for defensive use, but less likely to penetrate vests.
BTW, don't fire hot-loaded Tok in a Tok pistol. Only CZ-52s (and subguns) can handle the hot stuff. -Troy |
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Posted: 1/24/2002 1:44:10 AM EDT
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Mag Safe makes a 52gr load that goes 2100 FPS...
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Posted: 1/24/2002 5:00:35 AM EDT
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I found some Czech military ammo for my CZ52 that is loaded nice and hot. Great round! As flat ballistically as .30 Mauser or 7.65 Luger, but a lot cheaper and easier to get. BTW, .30 Mauser ammo will fit in the Tok chambered guns, but the Tok ammo should never be used in a .30 Mauser pistol. And yeah, only feed the hot stuff to the CZ52, the roller lock will hold it, not so sure about a mere Tok will hold up to it.
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Posted: 1/24/2002 3:17:10 PM EDT
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where can I get some of that hot czech ammo? does it have a specific name?
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Posted: 1/24/2002 4:57:25 PM EDT
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.30 TOK is another round that has tremendous reloaders potential. Take a looksee at the new Accurate reloading manual and they were getting 1972fps with 85gr rn sierras.
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Posted: 1/24/2002 8:10:42 PM EDT
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I love the .30 Mauser cartridge in my Broomhandle - it's one of the fastest pistol cartridges (I believe it might be the fastest FMJ cartridge there is). A necked-down pistol cartridge is a beautiful thing.
I like it so much, I just ordered a Cor-Bon 400 conversion for my 1911. |
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Posted: 1/24/2002 8:53:41 PM EDT
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I find the Czech mil surplus Tok ammo in small lots, 8 or 10 boxes at a time, at gun shows, as it hasn't been imported for a while.
Small white boxes, dated 52 through 54. Some of the bullets appear to be steel core, as they suck right up to a magnet. [:D] |
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Posted: 1/25/2002 12:27:40 AM EDT
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No, they are steel-jacketed (with copper plating). I've sectioned them; they are lead core. [:(]
-Troy |
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Posted: 1/25/2002 1:17:22 AM EDT
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.223 Timbs!!!!!!
This round is made for the CZ it is a copy of the .224 boz. It is a sabboted 55 grain .223. It shoots over 2000 fps! They have a fmj loading and a soft tip. [url]http://www.owlnet.com/quality/223%20Timbs.htm[/url] Now I am trying to figure out how to make my own |
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Posted: 1/25/2002 5:12:43 PM EDT
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Interesting. I have thought about trying to load standard saboted 5.56 rounds into the .30tok. The problem is that the rounds may exceed the max OAL and obviously with a diminished case capacity a fast powder like Bullseye may have to be used. Anyone try to load their own?
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Posted: 1/25/2002 10:58:43 PM EDT
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I am gonna try.I think am going to buy a box of the .223 timbs that is for sale. Then pull the bullet and get the wt of the charge. Then I figure I can match up the load with another load in a book.
Do you think that will work? |
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Posted: 1/26/2002 7:02:49 AM EDT
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Quoted: .30 TOK is another round that has tremendous reloaders potential. Take a looksee at the new Accurate reloading manual and they were getting 1972fps with 85gr rn sierras. The .357 sig will approximate this performance with a larger bullet and a modern weapon. Note that .357 sig is rated 40,000 psi SAAMI and most published data is well below this. Get a .40 s&w barrel for cheap shooting and reload the .357 sig for hypervelocity adventure and fun. Glocks are a favorite and are a good match for a .223 black rifle. |
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