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Posted: 7/4/2012 7:30:31 PM EDT
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what does "on the front of his shorts" mean?
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Posted: 7/4/2012 7:30:35 PM EDT
[#2]
Grey man principle.
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Posted: 7/4/2012 7:31:27 PM EDT
[#3]
good for him....not for me
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Posted: 7/4/2012 7:33:06 PM EDT
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Just saw him in passing, his gun looked to be at about 1:00 in a kydex holster of some sort.
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Posted: 7/4/2012 7:33:10 PM EDT
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OH MY GOD HE'S GOT A GUN, I'M SURE HE'S COMMITTING A CRIME
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Posted: 7/4/2012 7:33:22 PM EDT
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Oh and ibtl |
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Posted: 7/4/2012 7:33:58 PM EDT
[#7]
I am for the right to open carry but against the kind of people that want to do it.
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Posted: 7/4/2012 7:34:22 PM EDT
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I see it all the time in AZ with tards carrying at their 4-6o'clock in cheap nylon holsters and no situational awareness.
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Posted: 7/4/2012 7:35:23 PM EDT
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OH MY GOD HE'S GOT A GUN, I'M SURE HE'S COMMITTING A CRIME No implication of that in my posts.
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Posted: 7/4/2012 7:36:44 PM EDT
[#10]
Legal but tactically retarded.
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Posted: 7/4/2012 7:37:11 PM EDT
[#11]
I always carry in a retention holster when I open carry.. As far as carrying in a large crowd goes, I am OK with it..
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Posted: 7/4/2012 7:37:38 PM EDT
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I for the right to open carry but against the kind of people that want to do it. Amen. |
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Posted: 7/4/2012 7:41:22 PM EDT
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I always carry in a retention holster when I open carry.. As far as carrying in a large crowd goes, I am OK with it.. This, and I'll often move my elbow to block the top of the gun if I feel someone if just getting too close for comfort. If you are carrying open or concealed, you need to be situationally aware. I've been behind quite a few folks carrying concealed (its easy to tell who is) that have had zero situational awareness. |
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Posted: 7/4/2012 7:43:55 PM EDT
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OH MY GOD HE'S GOT A GUN, I'M SURE HE'S COMMITTING A CRIME No implication of that in my posts.
Your post read as if to imply there is something wrong with it... if that was not your intent why ask the "Hive" what they think? There are open carry attention whores (not the brightest and they work against our cause) and there are those who chose to open carry based on their opinions on the matter, both are legal and have the Right too, but only one is a jackass. Anyone claiming it's a "Tactically" bad decision, please post proof of your statement... I conceal carry %99 of the time and the %1 is at place I am a regular at... and that's in a top break leather holster 
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Posted: 7/4/2012 10:17:34 PM EDT
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I CCd and also noticed 3 more people CCing
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Posted: 7/4/2012 10:24:46 PM EDT
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In a crowd that large, I really don't think open carry is a great idea. Open carry in general is something that I rarey see anyone besides LEO of some sort do. I support the rights of people to do it but I also expect them to be considerate and intelligent about it. Unfortunately, many of the people I've witnessed OCing were neither.
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Posted: 7/4/2012 10:26:39 PM EDT
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http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bRjwsxSqWM8/TEvPCRwvBEI/AAAAAAAAAJw/F6C2ypAfB3g/s1600/GallawayAttentionWhore.jpg Oh and ibtl the op or the OC guy or the arfcom classic BOTH? |
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Posted: 7/4/2012 10:36:47 PM EDT
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Maybe he was a detective in plain clothes.
In a large crowd I wouldn't do it without a retention holster even though the SA is already there. OH nevermind, I live in TX. Silly me, we dont have that yet. YET.  
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Posted: 7/4/2012 10:54:30 PM EDT
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Maybe he was a detective in plain clothes. In a large crowd I wouldn't do it without a retention holster even though the SA is already there. OH nevermind, I live in TX. Silly me, we dont have that yet. YET. A detective with a gun shoved in the waistband of his shorts? In the front no less? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/4/2012 10:58:47 PM EDT
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I open carry because I'm not 21 and have a year and some change to go. I am the 1 percent.
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Posted: 7/4/2012 11:03:49 PM EDT
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I'm not against open carry. But you run the risk of losing your gun as someone clubs or skull in from behind.
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Posted: 7/4/2012 11:03:59 PM EDT
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Your post read as if to imply there is something wrong with it... if that was not your intent why ask the "Hive" what they think? There are open carry attention whores (not the brightest and they work against our cause) and there are those who chose to open carry based on their opinions on the matter, both are legal and have the Right too, but only one is a jackass. Anyone claiming it's a "Tactically" bad decision, please post proof of your statement... I conceal carry %99 of the time and the %1 is at place I am a regular at... and that's in a top break leather holster Other than making yourself a target if and when something actually does go down. |
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Posted: 7/4/2012 11:18:17 PM EDT
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I open carry all the time (not in a nylon holster) in crowds, lines, etc. when a whack job gets too close or I feel uncomfortable about a situation I just rest my forearm or hand over the gun depending on the situation, if someone wants to try to take it from me they are going to have to pry it out of my hand.
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Posted: 7/4/2012 11:21:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/4/2012 11:24:13 PM EDT
[#25]
so what?
does a gun scare you? Is a gun being there just asking for someone to take it and shoot everyone. for fucks sake......... |
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Posted: 7/4/2012 11:29:26 PM EDT
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When I open carry, it is a 1911, cocked and locked, in a SERPA holster.
NOT ONCE has anyone reached for it. NOT ONCE have I had someone been rude to me about it; I have been approached about it 3 times; once by a cop wanting to know how well it shot for me, twice by people who asked me why I was carrying it. I don't go into crowds out of personal preference and a hatred of crowds. I don't go anywhere that I'm not supposed to open carry. I don't cause trouble, I am cheerful and friendly in conversation, and always professional and courteous to those around me. How is that causing a problem? I don't see it. |
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Posted: 7/4/2012 11:31:37 PM EDT
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Quoted: you dare to give gun owners a good image and get the public used to seeing good people carrying a gun. A big no no with a large portion of ARFCOM.When I open carry, it is a 1911, cocked and locked, in a SERPA holster. NOT ONCE has anyone reached for it. NOT ONCE have I had someone been rude to me about it; I have been approached about it 3 times; once by a cop wanting to know how well it shot for me, twice by people who asked me why I was carrying it. I don't go into crowds out of personal preference and a hatred of crowds. I don't go anywhere that I'm not supposed to open carry. I don't cause trouble, I am cheerful and friendly in conversation, and always professional and courteous to those around me. How is that causing a problem? I don't see it. |
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Posted: 7/4/2012 11:55:07 PM EDT
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Quoted: When I open carry, it is a 1911, cocked and locked, in a SERPA holster. NOT ONCE has anyone reached for it. NOT ONCE have I had someone been rude to me about it; I have been approached about it 3 times; once by a cop wanting to know how well it shot for me, twice by people who asked me why I was carrying it. I don't go into crowds out of personal preference and a hatred of crowds. I don't go anywhere that I'm not supposed to open carry. I don't cause trouble, I am cheerful and friendly in conversation, and always professional and courteous to those around me. How is that causing a problem? I don't see it. Someone has been rude to me only once. Some retired east coast cop who wanted to impart some east coast gun control logic on me, I wouldn't have even given him the time of day but my the other guy I was with wanted to argue with him. Here is the thread on it. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_8_13/485231_Someone_got_really_mad_at_me_for_open_carrying____.html besides that one incident everyone is extremely polite to me while open carrying and I am extremely polite to everyone as well |
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Posted: 7/5/2012 12:53:15 AM EDT
[#29]
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When I open carry, it is a 1911, cocked and locked, in a SERPA holster. NOT ONCE has anyone reached for it. NOT ONCE have I had someone been rude to me about it; I have been approached about it 3 times; once by a cop wanting to know how well it shot for me, twice by people who asked me why I was carrying it. I don't go into crowds out of personal preference and a hatred of crowds. I don't go anywhere that I'm not supposed to open carry. I don't cause trouble, I am cheerful and friendly in conversation, and always professional and courteous to those around me. How is that causing a problem? I don't see it. Try that in a real shitty place east of where your sittin' and your pretty 1911 would be stolen. You don't advertise around these parts.... |
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Posted: 7/5/2012 1:08:43 AM EDT
[#30]
If I would even consider it it would only be done with my Safariland 6360 ALS with hood guard and sentry. It is quite a complex draw for the unknowing. The only problem I have with this is when the gun gets snagged by a shit bag who then shots me with it but that is more on the shit bag. |
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Posted: 7/5/2012 1:58:19 AM EDT
[#31]
I'm not philosophically against open carry; and I certainly don't think it should be illegal, but in many places, I think it's a bad tactical
decision. Some places, it may convey "I'm armed, and capable of fending for myself", and other places it says "Shoot me first". I think it's more tactically sound to play the cards closer to the vest in most cases. This really depends on your AO however. |
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Posted: 7/5/2012 3:54:52 AM EDT
[#32]
I don't see the point in advertising that you are armed.
Concealed carry. |
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Posted: 7/5/2012 4:50:46 AM EDT
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Your post read as if to imply there is something wrong with it... if that was not your intent why ask the "Hive" what they think? There are open carry attention whores (not the brightest and they work against our cause) and there are those who chose to open carry based on their opinions on the matter, both are legal and have the Right too, but only one is a jackass. Anyone claiming it's a "Tactically" bad decision, please post proof of your statement... I conceal carry %99 of the time and the %1 is at place I am a regular at... and that's in a top break leather holster Other than making yourself a target if and when something actually does go down. Still waiting for the proof to back that up 
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Posted: 7/5/2012 5:39:55 AM EDT
[#34]
Fortunately NM allows open carry, but what irritates me is if I am allowed to open carry without a permit why do I need one for concealed carry?
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Posted: 7/5/2012 5:42:50 AM EDT
[#35]
I call BS.
If there was actually a guy open carrying in a crowd, a bad guy would have taken his gun and killed everyone in the crowd first. |
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Posted: 7/5/2012 5:45:39 AM EDT
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my rule on concealment... take it for what it is. is to conceal based on how close i will be to others. ie. walking the dog i'll sometimes OC, normal business i'll CC my g19, doing something like going to a party at someones house i'll CC my G26. A concert or if i had a office job ... i take my wifes LCP.
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Posted: 7/5/2012 6:08:01 AM EDT
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I'm not against open carry. But you run the risk of losing your gun as someone clubs or skull in from behind. Same can happen if you are CC. I'd say it would be less likely to happen to the OC'er since they would likely be more aware of their surroundings than a CC'er
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Posted: 7/5/2012 6:11:21 AM EDT
[#38]
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I always carry in a retention holster when I open carry.. As far as carrying in a large crowd goes, I am OK with it.. This. |
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Posted: 7/5/2012 6:15:32 AM EDT
[#39]
I was at a Independence day celebration last night and saw 6 cops and all were open carrying! All I could think of is "my god, what a tactical failure". Of course I was one of them so I kept trying to hide my gun to marginalize my embarrassment.
In all seriousness in rural Virginia we don't care if someone has a gun. Someone open carrying would garner little attention. And though I carry concealed I have always felt like the over reaction of the general public to a openly carried gun is not the fault of someone carrying a gun, the real problem is not enough people open carry. But in our anti gun society even gun lovers have been ingrained to believe the guy with the open gun is the one who has a problem. It makes me sad every time I read the anti comments on here. |
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Posted: 7/5/2012 6:29:30 AM EDT
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When I open carry, it is a 1911, cocked and locked, in a SERPA holster. NOT ONCE has anyone reached for it. NOT ONCE have I had someone been rude to me about it; I have been approached about it 3 times; once by a cop wanting to know how well it shot for me, twice by people who asked me why I was carrying it. I don't go into crowds out of personal preference and a hatred of crowds. I don't go anywhere that I'm not supposed to open carry. I don't cause trouble, I am cheerful and friendly in conversation, and always professional and courteous to those around me. How is that causing a problem? I don't see it. Try that in a real shitty place east of where your sittin' and your pretty 1911 would be stolen. You don't advertise around these parts.... There are THOUSANDS of open carriers every day in VA alone, and its never, ever happened here. It has happened once, ONCE, in MI, and that open carrier was not aware of his surroundings.) |
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Posted: 7/5/2012 6:30:40 AM EDT
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I'm not philosophically against open carry; and I certainly don't think it should be illegal, but in many places, I think it's a bad tactical decision. Some places, it may convey "I'm armed, and capable of fending for myself", and other places it says "Shoot me first". I think it's more tactically sound to play the cards closer to the vest in most cases. This really depends on your AO however. The latter, "shoot me first", does not occur according to the FBI's uniform crime reports. |
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Posted: 7/5/2012 6:31:19 AM EDT
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I don't see the point in advertising that you are armed. Concealed carry. And I don't see the point of hiding my gun because I'm not a criminal. |
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Posted: 7/5/2012 6:47:10 AM EDT
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I am for the right to open carry but against the kind of people that want to do it. I OC fairly often. Never been questioned about it. Then again i have no issue with providing ID and my CCW permit to officers if they happen to be called. Nor do I have a problem with taking my money to another store if the managers don't want me there. There are plenty of places to shop, and despite what most think cops are respectful when you are respectful. Unless it's that tryhard nob gobbler trying to make a name for himself. I wish more people would open carry, but if they don't feel comfortable doing it, then it defeats the purpose of doing it completely and would be better if they CC. IMO as long as people are interacting with weapons in some way (positive manner) it's good for everyone. |
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Posted: 7/5/2012 6:48:55 AM EDT
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Legal but tactically retarded. That's about where I come down on it. The few times I've open carried I usually wear a button down shirt and leave it unbuttoned over a tucked in t-shirt. It covers the gun, yet still allows for easy access. The last time I did that was while getting lunch after a pistol class. I didn't have an IWB holster with me-just the Bladetech kydex holster for my USP45. I don't see the upside to getting people riled up unnecessarily, so I put on a shirt so I could enjoy my lunch in peace. Easy as pie  Call me a wuss, but I have no intention of inviting the police into my life over stupid shit. If someone was looking hard enough they would have seen the pistol-or the two reloads on my weak side. Trying to conceal a full-size USP45 is like trying to conceal a box of Wheaties when you're wearing summer clothing. That said, nobody gave me a second glance-so blading at 45 and/or massive adrenaline dumps weren't needed while I quietly enjoyed my buffalo chicken salad with a couple of local ARFcommers (who were also carrying).Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/5/2012 6:59:50 AM EDT
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the fuck is a hive?
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Posted: 7/5/2012 7:00:03 AM EDT
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I'm not philosophically against open carry; and I certainly don't think it should be illegal, but in many places, I think it's a bad tactical decision. Some places, it may convey "I'm armed, and capable of fending for myself", and other places it says "Shoot me first". I think it's more tactically sound to play the cards closer to the vest in most cases. This really depends on your AO however. The latter, "shoot me first", does not occur according to the FBI's uniform crime reports. You've posted this nonsense before. The UCR does not provide anywhere close to the level of detail needed to assess this hypothesis of yours. |
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Posted: 7/5/2012 7:01:55 AM EDT
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good for him....not for me how was the show? |
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Posted: 7/5/2012 7:02:07 AM EDT
[#48]
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I am for the right to open carry but against the kind of people that want to do it. This. |
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Posted: 7/5/2012 7:03:31 AM EDT
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When I open carry, it is a 1911, cocked and locked, in a SERPA holster. NOT ONCE has anyone reached for it. NOT ONCE have I had someone been rude to me about it; I have been approached about it 3 times; once by a cop wanting to know how well it shot for me, twice by people who asked me why I was carrying it. I don't go into crowds out of personal preference and a hatred of crowds. I don't go anywhere that I'm not supposed to open carry. I don't cause trouble, I am cheerful and friendly in conversation, and always professional and courteous to those around me. How is that causing a problem? I don't see it. Try that in a real shitty place east of where your sittin' and your pretty 1911 would be stolen. You don't advertise around these parts.... There are THOUSANDS of open carriers every day in VA alone, and its never, ever happened here. It has happened once, ONCE, in MI, and that open carrier was not aware of his surroundings.) We've had this discussion before, too. Tell that to Blaine Tyler. Oh wait, he got shot to death by his own openly carried gun in the middle of Virginia. Ooops. |
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Posted: 7/5/2012 7:10:06 AM EDT
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Legal but tactically retarded. |
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