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Posted: 10/26/2010 12:34:23 PM EDT
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make link cold
no 58% yes 42% |
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Posted: 10/26/2010 12:36:16 PM EDT
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Done, don't look good though.
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Posted: 10/26/2010 12:36:50 PM EDT
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C'mon GD lets turn this around.
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Posted: 10/26/2010 12:37:25 PM EDT
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Hit
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Posted: 10/26/2010 12:39:26 PM EDT
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Hit, and I absolutely love the wording of the "correct" response
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Posted: 10/26/2010 12:39:54 PM EDT
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Can someone please explain open carry to me? ( other than the freedom/ don't tread on me aspect). I just don't understand the point of it. CC makes much more sense.
edit: I am licensed to and do CC in Florida. I just don't really get the whole open carry thing. Having said that I voted "yes" and would support such legislation. |
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Posted: 10/26/2010 12:41:07 PM EDT
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Hit
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Posted: 10/26/2010 12:54:52 PM EDT
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What do you think?Should Floridians be allowed to carry weapons openly?
5955 total responses (Results not scientific) |
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Posted: 10/26/2010 12:58:17 PM EDT
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No way. We have already given the gun lovers too much freedom with their guns in Florida. Now to just let them carry their guns openly and wave them at everybody? Are you nuts? (3441 responses) 58% * Absolutely yes. The vast majority of states allow people to carry guns openly. It is a right that all gun owners should have, despite the whining of the gun-hating liberals. (2521 responses) 42% |
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Posted: 10/26/2010 1:03:49 PM EDT
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We were up 51% to 49% this morning. We can turn it back around.
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Posted: 10/26/2010 1:12:24 PM EDT
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Hit.
no 57% yes 43% |
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Posted: 10/26/2010 1:14:06 PM EDT
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Quoted: Can someone please explain open carry to me? ( other than the freedom/ don't tread on me aspect). I just don't understand the point of it. CC makes much more sense. I don't either. If you can own a gun, I'm willing to bet you have a 99% chance of getting a CCL.  EDIT: I still voted yes. |
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Posted: 10/26/2010 1:37:41 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Can someone please explain open carry to me? ( other than the freedom/ don't tread on me aspect). I just don't understand the point of it. CC makes much more sense. I don't either. If you can own a gun, I'm willing to bet you have a 99% chance of getting a CCL. EDIT: I still voted yes. Because one shouldn't have to get permission from the government (which is what a CCL/CHP etc. is) to exercise a constitutional right. It's also good for desensitizing the public to guns, it shows that good guys have guns too, not just cops and criminals. |
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Posted: 10/26/2010 1:42:55 PM EDT
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Can someone please explain open carry to me? ( other than the freedom/ don't tread on me aspect). I just don't understand the point of it. CC makes much more sense. I don't either. If you can own a gun, I'm willing to bet you have a 99% chance of getting a CCL.
EDIT: I still voted yes. Because one shouldn't have to get permission from the government (which is what a CCL/CHP etc. is) to exercise a constitutional right. It's also good for desensitizing the public to guns, it shows that good guys have guns too, not just cops and criminals. Fair enough. But I must admit that the times I've seen someone open carrying my 1st thought is "douche". |
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Posted: 10/26/2010 1:55:24 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Can someone please explain open carry to me? ( other than the freedom/ don't tread on me aspect). I just don't understand the point of it. CC makes much more sense. I don't either. If you can own a gun, I'm willing to bet you have a 99% chance of getting a CCL. EDIT: I still voted yes. Because one shouldn't have to get permission from the government (which is what a CCL/CHP etc. is) to exercise a constitutional right. It's also good for desensitizing the public to guns, it shows that good guys have guns too, not just cops and criminals. Fair enough. But I must admit that the times I've seen someone open carrying my 1st thought is "douche". That's because there's a lot of douches that open carry for the wrong reasons. They're the ones who look for confrontations with police or otherwise looking for attention, open carry in non-traditional ways (in other words, not in a quality holster on their belt) or you also have those pretending to be LE by wearing cuffs and other "cop" stuff on their belt. But the majority of OCers (at least around VA) are not like that. |
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Posted: 10/26/2010 1:57:00 PM EDT
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Touche.
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Posted: 10/26/2010 3:27:52 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Can someone please explain open carry to me? ( other than the freedom/ don't tread on me aspect). I just don't understand the point of it. CC makes much more sense. I don't either. If you can own a gun, I'm willing to bet you have a 99% chance of getting a CCL. EDIT: I still voted yes. Because one shouldn't have to get permission from the government (which is what a CCL/CHP etc. is) to exercise a constitutional right. It's also good for desensitizing the public to guns, it shows that good guys have guns too, not just cops and criminals. Gov. Crist said it's a right and getting the CCL is just a formality. I think you can now get one in 2 weeks from start to finish. The Stand Your Ground Law makes either CC'ing or OC'ing almost moot, too. See a forcible felony? You're in the okay. We have great redundancies and so long as the bad guy was taken care of, no one cares in the Gunshine State. |
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Posted: 10/26/2010 3:37:19 PM EDT
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What do you think?Should Floridians be allowed to carry weapons openly?
6697 total responses (Results not scientific) |
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Posted: 10/26/2010 3:42:09 PM EDT
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Done.
51 NO 49 Yes Still a chance, for whatever it's worth. |
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Posted: 10/26/2010 3:45:11 PM EDT
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Hit 50%/50% now!
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Posted: 10/26/2010 3:50:13 PM EDT
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Done
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Posted: 10/26/2010 4:04:29 PM EDT
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Gov. Crist said it's a right and getting the CCL is just a formality.
I think you can now get one in 2 weeks from start to finish. Two weeks after you've electronically filed the paperwork. I could take months to get an appointment depending on the demand. |
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Posted: 10/26/2010 4:30:01 PM EDT
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OP... make your link cold and put " FIRE MISSION" in your subject line so more of us see it.
Hit 51% Yes 49% No |
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Posted: 10/26/2010 4:33:29 PM EDT
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Hit
Still 51% yes |
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Posted: 10/26/2010 4:42:46 PM EDT
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Hit
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Posted: 10/26/2010 5:21:40 PM EDT
[#26]
hit it
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Posted: 10/28/2010 4:44:53 AM EDT
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bump
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Posted: 10/28/2010 4:47:45 AM EDT
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Not clicking that link until it is cold.
OP edit your post. |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 4:47:52 AM EDT
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50-50
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Posted: 10/28/2010 4:54:53 AM EDT
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Not clicking that link until it is cold. OP edit your post. Why? |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 4:55:34 AM EDT
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I think OC is more about legal immunity if the wind blows your shirt open. I know when I was stationed in Florida I was told numerous times that that would be treated as brandishing by the law. Probably not, but it's nice to be in Virginia where I could just take the cover garment off if I wanted to. OP- seriously- you could fuck this whole thing up by hotlinking. Allegedly, they can tell. And "Firemission" this sucka! |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 4:57:26 AM EDT
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Made cold. Didn't know it would be an issue.
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Posted: 10/28/2010 5:00:16 AM EDT
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50/50.
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Posted: 10/28/2010 5:18:08 AM EDT
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Made cold. Didn't know it would be an issue. They can tell where the link comes from. When they see that they can remove all votes linked from this site and others. |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 5:27:59 AM EDT
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Quoted: Not clicking that link until it is cold. OP edit your post. You could always copy and paste the link, you know. |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 5:32:18 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Not clicking that link until it is cold. OP edit your post. You could always copy and paste the link, you know. Maybe copy and paste it into your text editor of choice for an extra tier of protection. |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 5:34:59 AM EDT
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Quoted:
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Not clicking that link until it is cold. OP edit your post. You could always copy and paste the link, you know.
Not from my iphone I couldn't. Well, I'm sure a 15 year old could, but I couldn't. Hit again from the laptop. Still 50/50. |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 5:37:36 AM EDT
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hit-still 50/50
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Posted: 10/28/2010 5:40:44 AM EDT
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What do you think?
Should Floridians be allowed to carry weapons openly? No way. 50% Absolutely yes. 50% 15171 total responses (Results not scientific) |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 5:48:58 AM EDT
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Hit again from another laptop. Still 50/50. Standing by to call shenanigans. |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 5:51:27 AM EDT
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Just hit it, sitting at 50/50
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Posted: 10/28/2010 5:57:43 AM EDT
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Hit
50/50 Still |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 6:06:47 AM EDT
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hit
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Posted: 10/28/2010 6:08:33 AM EDT
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hit
50/50 the questions are made to the extreme right and extreme left...the wording must be turning off the fence sitters |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 6:37:32 AM EDT
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Should Floridians be allowed to carry weapons openly?
15352 total responses (Results not scientific) |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 6:41:43 AM EDT
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From here.... Original Post
This is my answer to why we should have open carry in Florida. Quoted: Quoted: Thanks for posting this so I could add another No vote. There are already provisions in Florida law for openly carrying firearms in situations where it makes sense to do so. Want to carry a gun to the grocery store? Get a CWP. Sorry attention whores, you won't be able to jock up and walk around looking cool with your pistol... After watching the associated video, it's refreshing to see several of the people interviewed that were against open carry were interviewed outside one of the largest gun shops in Broward county, and were obviously 'gun people'. As a Florida Police Officer I don't give a shit about your opinion. People have the right to open or conceal carry. This isn't about attention whores, this is about constitutional rights. So you or I shouldn't have the right to choose how we wish to carry? What about those that only own one pistol and cannot conceal them properly? So should it be a crime because a tiny bit of pistol exposed itself? Should we limit the lower class from being able to conceal carry or open carry? Some cannot afford to take the class then pay the State their fee for a card that give you the "privilege" to carry for a set amount of time in places of their choosing. If John Q Public wishes to legally open carry and they aren't criminals that break the law, LET ME CARRY. Law abiding citizens don't break the law. Criminals do. Let the law abiding do as they wish. Punish the criminals, and punish them hard. Another issue.... 2nd Amendment, US Constitution A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Section 8, Article I, Florida State Constitution SECTION 8. Right to bear arms.–– (a) The right of the people to keep and bear arms in defense of themselves and of the lawful authority of the state shall not be infringed, except that the manner of bearing arms may be regulated by law. Italicized part should be stricken in my opinion (b) There shall be a mandatory period of three days, excluding weekends and legal holidays, between the purchase and delivery at retail of any handgun. For the purposes of this section, "purchase" means the transfer of money or other valuable consideration to the retailer, and "handgun" means a firearm capable of being carried and used by one hand, such as a pistol or revolver. Holders of a concealed weapon permit as prescribed in Florida law shall not be subject to the provisions of this paragraph. (c) The legislature shall enact legislation implementing subsection (b) of this section, effective no later than December 31, 1991, which shall provide that anyone violating the provisions of subsection (b) shall be guilty of a felony. (d) This restriction shall not apply to a trade in of another handgun. Italicized part should be stricken in my opinion History.––Am. C.S. for S.J.R. 43, 1989; adopted 1990. Our State Constitution if screwed up. With it being able to be amended every election through ballot is wrong. That is the same route California went through. I see Florida in the same position that California was thirty to thirty five years ago. |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 7:28:50 AM EDT
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Quoted: From here.... Original Post This is my answer to why we should have open carry in Florida. Quoted: Quoted: Thanks for posting this so I could add another No vote. There are already provisions in Florida law for openly carrying firearms in situations where it makes sense to do so. Want to carry a gun to the grocery store? Get a CWP. Sorry attention whores, you won't be able to jock up and walk around looking cool with your pistol... After watching the associated video, it's refreshing to see several of the people interviewed that were against open carry were interviewed outside one of the largest gun shops in Broward county, and were obviously 'gun people'. Voted YES!  NO 47% YES 53%  |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 7:43:54 AM EDT
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I love the wording of the poll
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Posted: 10/28/2010 7:50:49 AM EDT
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45% No
55% Yes I have the option to open carry in Indiana but I don't. I support more freedoms, but don't feel the pros of open carry outweigh the cons in my opinion. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 8:09:31 AM EDT
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Quoted: Thanks for posting this so I could add another No vote. There are already provisions in Florida law for openly carrying firearms in situations where it makes sense to do so. Want to carry a gun to the grocery store? Get a CWP. Sorry attention whores, you won't be able to jock up and walk around looking cool with your pistol... After watching the associated video, it's refreshing to see several of the people interviewed that were against open carry were interviewed outside one of the largest gun shops in Broward county, and were obviously 'gun people'.   |
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