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Posted: 8/29/2005 12:20:20 PM EDT
Pit bull puppies that is. (It’s for the children of course.)

www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1125315169569_7/?hub=Canada

Welcome to Northern China:Those violating the rules can end up with their pets seized and euthanized, while they could face finds of up to $10,000 or even jail
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 12:38:55 PM EDT
Maybe they could google "English Sheepdog suits" and have their dogs go incognito.
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 12:41:24 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 12:42:39 PM EDT
Having a hard time feeling sorry for Canadians or Pit Bulls
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 12:43:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ArmedAggie:
Having a hard time feeling sorry for Canadians or Pit Bulls



I guess that makes 2 of us...
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 12:44:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By vito113:
Canada is just bringing in the same law on Pits and other 'Dangerous Dogs' as we have here in Great Britain…

ANdy




Yeah, we all know how well nanny-statism has worked for you guys.
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 12:45:01 PM EDT
Next will be anything that LOOKS like a pit bull.

Link Posted: 8/29/2005 12:45:51 PM EDT
I'm confused. Are we arfcommers supposed to applaud the new law, or make comparisons to nazis?

I predict 8 pages, a lock, and some guy ranting that he'll kill anyone who touches his dog.
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 12:48:34 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 12:52:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By napalm:

Originally Posted By vito113:
Canada is just bringing in the same law on Pits and other 'Dangerous Dogs' as we have here in Great Britain…

ANdy




Yeah, we all know how well nanny-statism has worked for you guys.



You will get the same 'Dangerous Dog' Laws passed in US cities and states before too long…



Will there then be "Pre-Ban" bulls?
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 12:53:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/29/2005 1:07:55 PM EDT by ChiefPilot]

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By napalm:

Originally Posted By vito113:
Canada is just bringing in the same law on Pits and other 'Dangerous Dogs' as we have here in Great Britain…

ANdy




Yeah, we all know how well nanny-statism has worked for you guys.



You will get the same 'Dangerous Dog' Laws passed in US cities and states before too long…



That's a pretty arrogant statment. There will be a few here and there to be sure (Denver comes to mind), but I don't think it will be widespread. Just because Great Britain thinks that something is good doesn't mean that the U.S. will automatically follow suit.
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 12:54:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Dolomite:
Pit bull puppies that is. (It’s for the children of course.)

www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1125315169569_7/?hub=Canada

Welcome to Northern China:Those violating the rules can end up with their pets seized and euthanized, while they could face finds of up to $10,000 or even jail



Where is the "It's about damn time" icon?

Av.
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 12:54:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ArmedAggie:

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By napalm:

Originally Posted By vito113:
Canada is just bringing in the same law on Pits and other 'Dangerous Dogs' as we have here in Great Britain…

ANdy




Yeah, we all know how well nanny-statism has worked for you guys.



You will get the same 'Dangerous Dog' Laws passed in US cities and states before too long…



Will there then be "Pre-Ban" bulls?



The prices on those are OUTRAGEOUS!

Just get a post-ban. They are only allowed to have 10 teeth, but seriously - no one needs a dog with more than 10 teeth.


Link Posted: 8/29/2005 12:55:58 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 12:55:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ArmedAggie:

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By napalm:

Originally Posted By vito113:
Canada is just bringing in the same law on Pits and other 'Dangerous Dogs' as we have here in Great Britain…

ANdy




Yeah, we all know how well nanny-statism has worked for you guys.



You will get the same 'Dangerous Dog' Laws passed in US cities and states before too long…



Will there then be "Pre-Ban" bulls?



Apparently Canada will have them- any born before November the whatever.
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 12:56:02 PM EDT
Not too arrogant at all – here’s a list of places with breed specific legislation already in full force:
ALABAMA
Irondale, Midfield, Orange Beach, Lannett, Gurley, Gadsden

ARKANSAS
Gosnell, Maumell, McGehee, Mt. Home, North Little Rock (has BANNED ROTTWEILERS & PIT BULLS), Piggot, Sherwood, Siloam Springs

CALIFORNIA
Santa Monica, Naval Base Ventura Count:Point Mugu Hueneme

COLORADO
Commerce City, Denver, Northglenn, Fort Lupton, Wellington

CONNECTICUT
Wetherfield<­BR>
FLORIDA
Cape Coral, Dade Count/North Miami, Sunrise, Tamarac

IDAHO
Kellog, Payette

ILLINOIS
Beach Park, Buffalo Grove (restricted ROTTWEILERS & PIT BULLS), Cairo, Central City, Chester, Cicero, Dixon, Effingham, Elmwood, Gillespie, Greenville, Johnston City, Lombard, Morrison, Mt. Olive, Mulberry Grove, Northlake, Oden, Peru, Rock Falls, Salem, Sandover, Silvis, Stone Park (has BANNED PIT BULLS), Streater, Westfield (has BANNED DOBERMANS), Wheeling, Wilsonville

INDIANA
Fowler, Gary, Lake Station, Mishawaka, South Bend, Walkerton (has BANNED ROTTWEILERS), Williamsport, Winchester

IOWA
Atkins, Alburnett, Anamosa, Belle Plaine, Benton County, Blairstown, Buffalo Center, Clarence, Conrad (has BANNED ROTTWEILERS), Council Bluffs, Coutier, Carter Lake, Dallas Center, Dakota City, Des Moines, Dexter, Donellson, Dumont, Durant, Fairfax, Fairfield, Forest City, Garrison, Hiawatha, Keystone, Lake Mills (has BANNED ROTTWEILERS), Lockridge (has BANNED ROTTWEILERS & PIT BULLS),Luzernne, Miles, Mt. Auburn, Mt. Pleasant, Monticello, Muscatine, Newhall, Norway, Olin, Oxford Junction, Ottumwa, Palo, Pocohontas, Rake, Rockwell, Scarville, Shellsburg, Sigourney, Thompson, Urbana, Van Horne, Vinton, Walford, Wapello, Watkins, Wilton, Winterset

KANSAS
Augusta, Arkansas City, Bonner Springs, Cheney, Cherokee County, Inman (has BANNED ROTTWEILERS & PIT BULLS), Dodge City, El Dorado, Ellinwood, Fort Smith, Fredonia, Garden City, Garnett, Hesston, Jackson County, Junction City, Kansas City, Kingman, Leawood, Leavenworth, Liberal, Lola, Maize, Manhatten, Marysville, Nickerson, Overland Park, Park City, Pittsburg, Preston, St. John, Salina, Shawnee County, Sterling, Topeka, Ulyssas, Wyandotte County

KENTUCKY
Bracken County, Erlanger, Elsmere, Ludlow, Walton

LOUISIANA
Luling, Morgan City, Plaquemines Parish, St. Parish, Welsh

MARYLAND
Prince George County, Naval Base, Hagerstown

MASSACHUSETTS
Amesbury, Boston, Brockton, Fall River, Haverhill, Holyoke, Medway, New Bedford, Rockport, Tauton, Whorster

MICHIGAN
Alma, Crystal City, Dearborne Heights, Detroit, East Pointe, Evart Township, Grosse Point Woods, Hastings, Hudsonville, Melvindale, Muskegon, Ramsey, Muskegon, Michigan, Ramsey, Redford, Southgate, Springfield, Waterford, Westland,

MISSISSIPPI
Aberdeen, Greenville, Horn Lake, Indianola

MISSOURI
Black Jack, Booneville, Butler, Calverton, Camdenton, Carl Junction (has BANNED ROTTWEILERS & PIT BULLS), Cameron, Clayton, Fenton, Ferguson, Florissant, Grandby, Grandview, Greenwood, Hallsville, Hazelwood, Liberty, Macon, New Franklin, Pagerdale, Salisbury (has BANNED PIT BULLS & ROTTWEILERS), Springfield, University City, Wentzville, Woodson Terrace

MONTANA
Ekalaka, Libby

NEBRASKA
Friend

NEW JERSEY
Atlantic City, Clifton, Engelwood, Highland Park, Millville, West New York

NEW MEXICO
Tijeras, Kirkland Air Force Base

NEW YORK
Binghamton (restricts ROTTWEILERS), Hudson, Jamestown, Larchmont, Maybrook, Mount Vernon, New Rochelle, Newburgh, N. Hempstead, Sand Point, Village of Haverstraw, Village of Hemstead, Yonkers

NORTH CAROLINA
Transylvania

NORTH DAKOTA
Bismark, Kildeer, Minot (has BANNED PIT BULLS) Velva (has BANNED ROTTWEILERS)

OHIO

(STATE HAS DELARED PIT BULLS AS DANGEROUS/VICIOUS)
Akron (has RESTRICTED PIT BULLS & AMERICAN BULLDOGS), Athens, Bay Village, Bellevue, Bexley, Cambridge, Celina, Cincinnati, E. Cleveland, Defiance, East Cleveland, Fairfield, Franklin County, Girard, Golf Manor, Heath, Highland Heights, Louisville, Lucas County, Ludlow Falls, Mansfield, Mayfield, Mentor on the Lake, Miami County, Middlefield, Mt. Vernon, Napoleon,New Albany, Newark, North Perry, Oxford, Parma, Perrysburg, Powell, Richmond Heights, Shaker Heights, Silverlake, S. Euclid, Southpoint, Springboro, St. Marys, Toledo, Warrensville Hts, Washington Court House, Wickliffe, Wooster, Yellow Springs

OKLAHOMA
Eufaula, Midwest City, Quenton

OREGON
Malin

PENNSYL­VANIA
Clairton, Elizabeth, Reading

RHODE ISLAND
Pawtucket (has BANNED PIT BULLS & placed restriction on ROTTWEILERS), Providence

SOUTH CAROLINA
Columbia, Travelers Rest (has BANNED ROTTWEILERS, CHOWS & DOBERMANS)

SOUTH DAKOTA
Chamberlain (has BANNED PIT BULLS, DOBERMANS and ROTTWEILERS) Sissenton (has BANNED DOBERMANS)

TENNESSEE
Jackson, Smyrna, Sparta, Watertown, Lynnville (has BANNED ROTTWEILERS, PIT BULLS, CHOWS, GERMAN SHEPHERD & DOBERMANS)

TEXAS
Kyle, Neilsville, Terrell

UTAH
North Salt Lake, Smithfield (has BANNED ROTTWEILERS & SHAR-PEIS) Springville (heavy restriction-pit bulls)


VIRGINIA
Richmond
WASHINGTON
Buckly, Enunclaw, Everett, Inland, Issaquah Highland Subdivision, Kenawick, King County, Kirkland, Moxee, Neah Bay (has BANNED ROTTWEILERS), Oak Harbor, Prosser, Quincy, Seatac, Sunnyside, Toppenosh, Yakima

WISCONSIN
East Troy Lake, Fox Lake, Hewitt, Milwaukee, Nellisville, Oconto, Randolph, South Milwaukee
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 12:58:15 PM EDT
You should change your name to Googlemite.
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 12:59:17 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 1:00:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By distributor_of_pain:
You should change your name to Googlemite.


Daaaayum!
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 1:07:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Aimless:
Maybe in the northeast states and on the west coast, that'd be a tough sell in a lot of the US beyond some municipal ordinances.



+1

The places where people have a lot of these animals are the same places that don't have a baseless fear of weapons, value personal responsibility, and so on.
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 1:23:54 PM EDT
WTF is it with SafetyNazi's innate fear (and banning) of objects instead of just going after the people/groups who cause problems...?

Tiny sez "WOOF"...!
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 2:21:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By napalm:

Originally Posted By vito113:
Canada is just bringing in the same law on Pits and other 'Dangerous Dogs' as we have here in Great Britain…

ANdy




Yeah, we all know how well nanny-statism has worked for you guys.



You will get the same 'Dangerous Dog' Laws passed in US cities and states before too long…



You mean like your gun laws?

You presume too much.
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 2:25:27 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 3:00:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/29/2005 3:13:48 PM EDT by lu380]
I still can't believe how many "freedom loving conservatives" on this board think that it's a good idea to ban dogs. I also can't believe how many don't see the parallels between gun control and dog control.

What happens if you own a "dangerous dog" that you consider a part of you family and is actually very friendly, and you move to a State or municipality that won't allow them? Are you expected to have your dog put down or don't move there?

I'm so sick and tired of being protected from myself by someone who knows what's best for me.


BTW ANdy: ALL YOUR EUROPUSSYFIGHTER TYPHOON ARE BELONG TO US!
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 3:43:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By napalm:

Originally Posted By vito113:
Canada is just bringing in the same law on Pits and other 'Dangerous Dogs' as we have here in Great Britain…

ANdy




Yeah, we all know how well nanny-statism has worked for you guys.



You will get the same 'Dangerous Dog' Laws passed in US cities and states before too long…



Been to Denver lately?
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 5:38:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By vito113:
Seems not…



Seems so. You clearly have no idea of the size of the United States. Several dozen locations are listed and you take this to be a significant portion of the U.S.? Several states, including my own (Minnesota) have nothing listed.

Furthermore, many of those locations listed with regulations fall short of an outright ban or have overly broad definitions. The New York law, for example, defines a dangerous dog as "any dog which attacks a person, domestic animal or domesticated dog or cat and causes death or physical injury when unprovoked" among others. So, by that definition, a miniature dachshund ("wiener dog") that bites someone might now be considered a dangerous dog.

I'm sorry you feel you ashamed of your country's slide into the nanny state, but please don't try to drag the rest of the free world down with you.

Link Posted: 8/29/2005 6:26:13 PM EDT

They are only allowed to have 10 teeth, but seriously - no one needs a dog with more than 10 teeth.

All I know is I don't want to grip his pistol grip.

Link Posted: 8/29/2005 6:34:09 PM EDT
btw you can scratch oklahoma off the list for now. The okla Atty gen issued an opinion last week that breed specific bans are unconstitutional under the ok state constitution.
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 6:42:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By lu380:
I still can't believe how many "freedom loving conservatives" on this board think that it's a good idea to ban dogs. I also can't believe how many don't see the parallels between gun control and dog control.




Amen to that. Alot of the people here seem to be eaten up with the "I don't like that, so I think it should be banned" syndrome.
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 7:01:04 PM EDT
This is the typical way our gov't deals with public safety issues... Go after the easy target.
Ban the dog instead of holding owners more resposible for their dogs behavior...
I don't particularly like Pit bulls... they're kinda ugly if y'ask me, but as long as it's on a leash when out in public... as any dog should be... I'm cool with it.
It's all hype and hysteria... I read stats somewhere re. dog bites... take it for what y'think it might be worth, but Pit bulls weren't even in the top ten.... The top biter reported was..... the Collie.
Lasse go home
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 8:46:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Noname:
Tiny sez "WOOF"...!
img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/VonErnst/IMAG0059.jpg



Yo! Tiny! Whatz up dawg?!?!?
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 8:51:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/29/2005 8:52:06 PM EDT by FieroLoki]
"I'll kill anyone who touche's MY dog" There it's been said.

<----------Oh damn, look at post count.
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 8:51:53 PM EDT
<--------------Very glad he left Canada when he did.
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 11:11:31 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 11:59:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/30/2005 EDT by swingset]
A agree, this is government banning perfectly safe, lovable animals. It's all media bias, afterall. I mean, cocker spaniels kill thousands every year, don't they? Wait....do they? Oh well, nevermind that.

First they ban the huggable family pet, the Pit Bull, next it'll be furry hamsters and the known-man-killer, the Toy Poodle.

Slippery slope, dog lovers.....slippery slope.




And, I agree the parallels to gun banning are crystal clear. After all, isn't it the 23rd Amendment that states dog-ownership shall not be infringed? Wait a sec. We don't have a dog-amendment? Shit.

I hear the anti-drug people use that line all the time....there's nothing in the Constitution that guarantees the right to smoke dope. So, by that reasoning, there's nothing in the Constitution that says you can't ban dogs.

Sorry Pit Bull lovers, you're SOL on that one.

And, comparing the Pit Bull to assault weapons is spot-on too. Afterall, if an assault weapon gets out of your yard by chewing through the fence, you know it's going to run off and kill something.

I'm not for government banning anything, frankly, but I do love to lampoon the naive notion that Pits are wonderful animals and just like every other dog. If Pits hadn't killed and maimed so many people, I guarantee there would be no ban on them....and likewise, if there were 100 deaths a year from labradors, someone would be banning them, and I wouldn't be proud to own one.
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 10:30:15 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Dolomite:

Originally Posted By distributor_of_pain:
You should change your name to Googlemite.


Daaaayum!



hey, at least he didn't suggest Vegamite

cue up the Men at Work cd hehe..
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 10:42:17 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Noname:
WTF is it with SafetyNazi's innate fear (and banning) of objects instead of just going after the people/groups who cause problems...?

Tiny sez "WOOF"...!



Jasmine sez "And bow!"





Link Posted: 8/30/2005 10:47:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Dolomite:
ARKANSAS
Gosnell, Maumelle, McGehee, Mt. Home, North Little Rock (has BANNED ROTTWEILERS & PIT BULLS), Piggot, Sherwood, Siloam Springs



of course, that doesn't mean a damn thing here. got a couple friends in NLR with pitts that i'm sure have no idea that law even exists. and i KNOW that some "animal control" officers are ignorant of it.
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 10:50:40 AM EDT
Change the thread title from "puppies" to "Liberals" and I'll have to throw in my support.
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 11:09:50 AM EDT
There are already plenty of dangerous animals...of the two legged variety...

Leave the poor pit bulls alone..


Send all the liberals to Canada, and America would be a much safer place.

Would feel sorry for any respectable Canadians though

Link Posted: 8/30/2005 11:18:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/30/2005 11:24:10 AM EDT by Jack19]

Originally Posted By ArmedAggie:
Having a hard time feeling sorry for Canadians or Pit Bulls



Absolutely. If either dropped off the face of the planet, who would notice?

To you poor whiney Canadians, if you're a conservative, move south, you know where I mean. If not, who cares? Screw Canada...it's just another terrorist holding ground.

To you Pitt Bull owners. I've had experience with your dogs and frankly, I'll shoot your dog if it attacks. And, you better lawyer up because I will own you.
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 11:24:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/30/2005 11:24:56 AM EDT by KN]
I dont really care for Pits but in no way want them banned. I think there should just be harsher penaltys for dog owners that are not responsible.

Like if your dog attacks somebody you should be charged with attempted murder.
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 11:24:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/30/2005 11:25:51 AM EDT by TheCynic]

Originally Posted By Dolomite:
Not too arrogant at all – here’s a list of places with breed specific legislation already in full force:



You people should move to a 'free state'
like Vermont, New Hampshire, or Maine.

They can have my dog...bloody fangs first.


Link Posted: 8/30/2005 11:48:04 AM EDT
I'am all for banning "aggressive" dog breeds..Just as long as they also ban aggressive human races like blacks
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 11:50:02 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Bigheadcal:
I'am all for banning "aggressive" dog breeds..Just as long as they also ban aggressive human races like blacks



Link Posted: 8/30/2005 11:54:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/30/2005 11:55:09 AM EDT by pv74]

Originally Posted By Bigheadcal:
I'am all for banning "aggressive" dog breeds..Just as long as they also ban aggressive human races like blacks



Please crawl back into your hole
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 11:55:21 AM EDT
That went right over your head, The cynic
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 12:08:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TheCynic:

Originally Posted By Dolomite:
Not too arrogant at all – here’s a list of places with breed specific legislation already in full force:


You people should move to a 'free state'
like Vermont, New Hampshire, or Maine.
They can have my dog...bloody fangs first


I can dig that.

And you bring up a good point. Why don't they ban these dogs in "free" states?

Breed specific legislation does nothing to control the people that are neglecting or mistreating the animals - so I can't really expect anything out of it - other than it makes the .gov look like they're doing something.
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 12:16:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Dolomite:
Not too arrogant at all – here’s a list of places with breed specific legislation already in full force:
TEXAS
Kyle, Neilsville, Terrell





We had a pit for 13 years, most of the time in Kyle. I haven't lived there in eight years so it looks like things have changed. I do know that there was quite a few people that bred fighting dogs there.

Ours wasn't raised that way and never bit anyone in the 16 years she was on the earth.
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 12:20:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By vito113:
Canada is just bringing in the same law on Pits and other 'Dangerous Dogs' as we have here in Great Britain…

ANdy




Yea Andy.

Way to go, GB. Bastion of the peoples rights.
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 12:27:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Torf:
I'm confused. Are we arfcommers supposed to applaud the new law, or make comparisons to nazis?

I predict 8 pages, a lock, and some guy ranting that he'll kill anyone who touches his dog.




Yep.

I've got 223 reasons why attemping to come collect any member of my family might be a "life altering" experience.

(Except for the wife's fuckin cat, that is )
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