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Posted: 3/21/2002 12:08:40 PM EST
Manitoba man who registered soldering gun as a protest could get jail time - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- OAK LAKE, Man. (CP) - A man who successfully registered his soldering gun as a firearm says he did so to point out the absurdity of the federal gun registry program. But Brian Buckley's act of civil disobedience may create more problems than he bargained for. Government officials aren't happy and, according to the Criminal Code, he could go to jail for up to five years. , who has a possession-only firearms licence, said he got a form to register his guns in the mail around Christmas time. By law, all firearms must be registered by Jan. 1, 2003. However, Canadians have not been quick to comply and that forced Ottawa to waive registration fees last October in an attempt to get more guns listed. , who is an autobody shop owner, said he is opposed to the new gun laws and calls the registration process a waste of time and money. So he decided to play with the system. ``I just filled it in,'' he said. ``I put my Black & Decker heat gun and my Weller soldering gun on there, didn't stamp it, and sent it back in.'' He listed the ``guns'' as a non-restricted firearm, the same as most shotguns or hunting rifles. In the spot asking for the gun's make, he filled out Black & Decker/Weller. In the spot for type, he put heat gun/soldering gun. When the registration card came back a few weeks later, couldn't believe his eyes. ``It never once occurred to me that it would be taken seriously and that I would get a certificate and be issued a registration number,'' said. ``It never crossed my mind that they are that incompetent there.'' David Austin, a spokesman for the Canadian Firearms Centre, was not laughing when he heard about the protest. Austin said what did was provide false information to procure a registration and that is against the law. He may have filled out the application with the correct information about the tools, but neither are firearms and that in itself is a violation. ``It's a serious matter,'' Austin said. ``If he looks at it very carefully, he will see there is a requirement to provide accurate information on a registration form for a firearm.'' Austin said that when non-restricted gun registrations come in, they are not verified by a real person right away. The forms are scanned into the national data base of guns and certificates are sent out as soon as possible to avoid a backlog.
Link Posted: 3/21/2002 12:09:27 PM EST
Part 2 Each registration is verified by someone eventually, Austin said, and Buckley's would have been caught. ``You've got to understand that millions of these things are coming in at one time and it will take a while to go back,'' Austin said. ``But we will go back.'' If convicted of providing false information to get a gun registration certificate, an individual faces anything from a $2,000 fine and six months in jail to five years behind bars. Austin said officials at the gun registry contacted him Wednesday to begin an investigation, but not much was said. ``The question is for what purpose do you do this?'' Austin said. ``It's just going to end up costing the taxpayers more money while we straighten it out.'' Inky Mark, member of Parliament, for Dauphin-Swan River supports and put out a media release about the licence. ``I would say he's made his point,'' Mark said. ``He's shown how the system doesn't function.'' Mark said registering a soldering gun may not be a security risk, but it certainly is a mark against a system designed to protect Canadians. ``The whole premise of registration is safety,'' Mark said. ``If the premise is safety, then there should be little room for error.'' ------------------------------
Link Posted: 3/21/2002 12:23:21 PM EST
"The whole premise of registration is safety" What utter[b][u] BULLSHIT!!![/u][/b] The only reason for registration is so they know where to go WHEN (not IF, but WHEN) they start confiscating them. Don't comply. No way. Friend Canadians, you're about to get screwed. Don't let it happen. I've GOT IT!! [thinking] Every one of you, register your hair dryer. It's a gun, sort of. The registration system will collapse under the weight of MILLIONS of bad registrations and will soon be swept under the carpet. Mass civil disobedience is the key to winning battles like this! What are they going to do, arrest millions of people who registerd a hair dryer??? CJ
Link Posted: 3/21/2002 1:05:27 PM EST
Originally Posted By cmjohnson: Don't comply. No way. Friend Canadians, you're about to get screwed. Don't let it happen. I've GOT IT!! [thinking] Mass civil disobedience is the key to winning battles like this!
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"mass civil disobedience"? You really don't understand the Canadian mentality very well. Canadians by and large trust authority and government.
Link Posted: 3/21/2002 1:08:39 PM EST
Question..... How do you get 50 Canadians to get out of a swimming Pool? .. , , , , , , , , Tell them too... Try that in Texas!!
Link Posted: 3/21/2002 1:25:41 PM EST
Raven, you couldn't be more wrong. Although it pains me a great deal to disclose this..... Canadians do not trust the gov or authority. We bitch, moan and complain just like everyone else... the big difference is: We are sheep! We never do anything about it. Truely makes me sick!
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Link Posted: 3/21/2002 1:47:15 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/22/2002 8:34:57 AM EST by Lord_Grey_Boots]
Canadians are passive? Hardly. Canadians tend to throw out entire political parties at the next election. The Progress Conservatives federally were largely destroyed as a party a few years ago. The BC NDP was voted just about entirely out of office. The problem is that with pure democratically elected Parliament, Ontario and Quebec seats dominate. All votes in Parliament are strictly along party lines, so the majority party gets everything they want to do, no matter what the constituents say. The Senate is an appointed for life body, and it just rubber stamps everything. Its not passive Canadians, its a non-democratic voting system in the Parliament. You have heard the joke about Germans vs Americans? If a gov't put in 55 mph speed limits, the Germans would obey the limit, then vote the government out of office. The Americans would ignore the law, and vote the gov't back in. The Canadians on the other hand... Canadians ignore the law (nicely of course :-) ), then vote the pinheads out, ... Amended to note that the Canadians, however, would still be stuck with the new law...
Link Posted: 3/21/2002 3:08:53 PM EST
This is funny. Way back in 1974 I lived in Oak Lake Manitoba.(pop.100). Met my wife in Brandon, but I digress. Oak Lake was very quiet, nice people. Even back then they're were some very vocal people when it came to the stuff that the government tried to pull. Great story here.
Link Posted: 3/21/2002 5:14:40 PM EST
Isn't there a way for us Southerners to help our Canadian friends? Like by requesting registration forms and sending them in?
Link Posted: 3/21/2002 6:06:05 PM EST
Link Posted: 3/21/2002 6:24:54 PM EST
Well, I have to adamit my understanding of Canadians' submissiveness is secondhand. My best friend studied in Canada for college. Here, he would be considered a weenie liberal. There, he was an anti-authoritarian firebrand. The Americans who post here on AR15.com are kind of "par-for-the-course" conservatives. They are not especially outrageous of out of the mainstream for their attitudes and beliefs for Republicans/conservatives, which compose a little less than half of the country. I would venture that any Canadians who post here are a lot more out of the mainstream with regards to their fellow countrymens' political leanings. This is just a wild guess on my part [;)]
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