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Posted: 9/12/2005 2:30:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/14/2005 11:21:02 AM EDT by gaspain]
Please give it a read. All he may need is some good advice.

Basically he got injured and hasnt been able to work due to the injury. He doesnt have a job or any leads to a job that he can do. He's single with no dependents. He's only got a few days now untill he's gets evicted and will be living at a shelter.

Its in the Team Forum.
www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=75&t=388638

This shouldnt be happening to one of our guys.

eta: he is kinda sounding suicidal in his posts too...this guy needs a leg up really bad

Link Posted: 9/12/2005 2:33:34 PM EDT
well if he's a team member he can always ask for his "donation" back
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 2:34:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mobius:
well if he's a team member he can always ask for his "donation" back



FOAD
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 2:35:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mobius:
well if he's a team member he can always ask for his "donation" back



Link Posted: 9/12/2005 2:36:07 PM EDT
govy assisted houseing,,sction 8,welfare,, ect ect.... it doesnt have to be shelter time unless you give up!
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:13:06 PM EDT






you got it wrong............it's when you become a team member, is when you become a moron
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:15:06 PM EDT
A single guy on SEC 8? yeah right they would never do it.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:16:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/12/2005 7:54:34 PM EDT by roboman]
edited
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:16:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mobius:
well if he's a team member he can always ask for his "donation" back



sorry fella but thats some funny stuff...asking for help and assistance but yet keep his team member donation.....
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:19:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/12/2005 7:20:08 PM EDT by repub18]

Originally Posted By VTwin60:

Originally Posted By mobius:
well if he's a team member he can always ask for his "donation" back



sorry fella but thats some funny stuff...asking for help and assistance but yet keep his team member donation.....




You dont know what the hell you are talking about.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:20:33 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:23:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/12/2005 7:23:41 PM EDT by joker581]
I swear to God, sometimes I wish this site would go members only.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:23:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By protus:
govy assisted houseing,,sction 8,welfare,, ect ect.... it doesnt have to be shelter time unless you give up!



Well, Welfare is virtually impossible to get with out one or more victims(children)
and it also helps to be black and know how to work the system
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:25:13 PM EDT
is there any way we non-team members can help out?
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:28:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mobius:
well if he's a team member he can always ask for his "donation" back



I await the day you are banned from this site! You are nothing but a troll!
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:31:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/12/2005 7:33:12 PM EDT by palmer]

Originally Posted By mobius:


img.photobucket.com/albums/v487/prophanger1/moron2vx.jpg



you got it wrong............it's when you become a team member, is when you become a moron





That can't be true, because your a moron and not a team member.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:32:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mobius:


img.photobucket.com/albums/v487/prophanger1/moron2vx.jpg



you got it wrong............it's when you become a team member, is when you become a moron



Go have sex with a horse.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:32:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Paul:

Originally Posted By mobius:
well if he's a team member he can always ask for his "donation" back



Not funny at all




I know this isn't a "voting" issue, but I sure woundn't mind seeing him go away.

Taking a crap in that type of a thread is not acceptable in my little world.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:34:04 PM EDT
Regardless of the shitstorm that's starting above, as far as your original topic....how can I help...what does he need?
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:38:40 PM EDT
so for us non team members whats the deal and how can we help?
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:39:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By gus:

Originally Posted By mobius:
well if he's a team member he can always ask for his "donation" back



FOAD



+1
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:40:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By VTwin60:
so for us non team members whats the deal and how can we help?



what are you throwing out there? mabe he will see your post and IM you. That is the best I can do for you as a non team member without his approval. He posted it in the team forum to get some privacy and stay away from the mobius types.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:41:55 PM EDT
Again, how can non-team members help?
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:43:43 PM EDT
How can WE help?
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:51:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Nephilim:
....how can I help...what does he need?



I dont know exactly. But here is some of the posts from the Teams forum, maybe give it a read and leave a note for him here. He is watching this thread now too.


yay for me......

Never thought I'd wish I was down there in hurricane alley. I could sure use a friggen Red Cross debit card..... So much for the "system" helping people get back on their feet, when they need a hand.

God damned joke.......

Anybody want to adopt a broken down 36 year old electrician who can't work enough to support himself ?




Thanks for the well wishes all.....

I could find work tomorrow, if I wasn't all banged up like I am. That's the biggest problem.

So far I know for sure I have a bunch of problems with my back and neck, and there's also most likely other things wrong, as those two things alone don't explain some of the other problems.

I can't even carry my damn toolbag around anymore, because of the pain. It's just ridiculous.

I was supposed to meet an orthopedic surgeon last week, but the asshole was a no-show.... Yay for clinics and commie assistance. See how well that works.

It's just got me really depressed because I'm watching my life go right down the drain, and fucking angry as hell because the first time in my life that I actually need some help, I can't get any.

Unfortunately, I'm not some baby's mommy, or a drug addict / alcoholic, or an illegal or AIDS patient, or a plain old lazy piece of shit, so I don't count enough to all the goddamn bleeding heart 'charities' for them to do anything.

The whole thing has just worn me down. Social Security is a fucking joke because it takes so goddamn long for them to actually DO anything, it's absurd.... And without being approved, or one of the "victims of the day" I mentioned, nobody will do a fucking thing for me.

I've been working since I was a friggen kid, and paying my damn taxes all these years like a good boy, and this is what I get...... It's fucking ridiculous.

I've gotten behind on my rent, so my wonderful landlord dragged me to court, to evict me, after living here for six years, and being a perfect tenant. Hell, I even worked on the guy's house for him, for nothing more than material costs. It's amazing how people can be all buddy-buddy when THEY need something, but fuck me, when I'm in serious trouble and could use a hand...

So now, in two weeks, I'll be living in a friggen homeless shelter with a bunch of crackheads, having to sleep with one eye open and the other watching over my shoulder, because I have nowhere else to go.....


I'm so disgusted with my life and everything about it, it's not even funny...... All I want is to just have the docs get me feeling a little better so I CAN go back to work again, enough to pay off my damn debts, but I can't even get any help to DO it....


I'd be better off being a fucking scumbag crackhead...... I'd get plenty of help then, all for the asking.


Me ? A guy who's worked all his life and tried to be a good person, I don't get shit......




Thanks..... I still have no idea what I'm looking AT, as the jackass was a no-show, like I mentioned.

I had been seeing a Rheumatologist when I was still working, and had insurance. I thought I had lyme disease because I'd been bitten by a tick, back in the fall of 2000.... I started feeling really achy and tired a lot, that winter..... I started hurting a bunch, and I finally went to see a doc and the tests came back negative.

I figured maybe I was working too hard/too many hours, so I cut back some but that didn't help any, it just got worse... After about a year, My boss finally got health insurance, so I could see someone without having to come up with a pile of money, and he thought maybe arthritis and/or possibly fibromyalgia, because my mother might've had it.... She died when I was 21 of cancer, but for years and years, I can remember her complaining about hurting, and being tired a lot, so it was a maybe, at that point....

My GP sent me to this Rheumatologist, and I saw the guy for a year, and all he did was one blood test, and write script after script after script.... Nothing else. It really never occurred to me that that wasn't quite right as I was so worn out and work was kicking my ass... My brain just wasn't in gear I guess, so stupid me just kept on taking whatever friggen pills he laid on me.... I could kick myself now, but back then, it didn't cross my mind that if I'm complaining about this or that part hurting so much, MAYBE, just MAYBE get some fucking X-Rays..... or ANYTHING, for that matter done ?! but I was so worn down and just worried about trying to do my job every day, I was kind of in a daze.... all the friggen meds I was on probably didn't help that much either, I guess.

I come to find out now, after having lost my job and everything that's happened, that the scumbag lost his license for misprescribing narcotics and trading them for sexual favors..... Apparently he liked writing out lots of scripts and not doing much else, the piece of shit. So I wasted a year of my life with that asshole, when if he DID his fucking job, I COULD have probably had all the MRI's and other crap I've had done in the last few months BACK THEN, Done whatever needed to get done, and maybe could have avoided losing my job completely, and just kept working part time, like I was. But no...... I get the fucking porno doc, who's more interested in getting his fat ass tickled, than taking care of his patents, like he should....... Pisses me off more than you can imagine.

My biggest issue right now is having no income, and absolutely nowhere to go, when I get tossed out in the street in two weeks...... I've had so many Dr. appointments the last four months it's mind boggling, but none of that's going to help when I'm going to be in a homeless shelter, because I have nowhere else to go.......

I'm literally at my wits end, and just don't know what to do.....




Believe me, I'd LOVE to go down there and do that, if there was any way I COULD........ For that matter, I wanted so badly to go down to NYC after 9/11 and volunteer, knowing my trade experience could be useful and I was a Vol. FF some years ago, but I was having a hard time just doing my everyday job, and figured I'd be more a hindrance than a help..... I still feel really bad, as I know people who lost family members there, and I wanted to do SOMETHING, but i just couldn't because of this shit......


As far as SSDI, I filed once last year, when I lost my job..... It got denied, and to be honest, I didn't know shit about the whole process. Everyone was telling me I'd probably never get it, because at that point, I STILL, after 3+ years, didn't know what the hell was wrong.. No thanks to the piece of shit doc, I mentioned in the post above. So I was an idiot and didn't appeal, listening to the shit advice I got. Not too friggen bright..... I couldn't afford a lawyer, and just didn't know any better.

I reapplied a little over a month ago, after all the docs I'm seeing NOW (at the local ghetto clinic and hospital clinics) kept asking me if I was on SSDI, and why I wasn't, when I told them no....

Of course, they work on their own schedule, and my life falling apart doesn't amount to a hill of beans to them, so God only knows how long it could take.


So I wait..... and in the mean time, I go to a homeless shelter...... Yay.




Well, I talked to the people from Legal Aid here. (free advice/representation, when you're poor/broke like me) and they'll get involved once I go through the first two denials. After that, is the hearing, where you see a judge, or whatever they're called for this stuff. That's when a lawyer comes into play, from what I understand. But there's not much one can do, until I get to the point of a hearing.

And no.... I don't have anyone who can take me in until I can get this garbage figured out.... No family that'll lift a finger, and just about all of my friends turned out to not be ones I could count on, like I thought, or like they could count on me, when they've needed help..... Amazing how people just sort of disappear when you're in a really bad situation and need some help.

I really have nowhere left to turn...... I've spent day after day on the phone trying to get some charity / agency / etc to help me get my life back, but not one will do a thing for me....

So much for trying to live a decent, honest life....... See where it gets ya........




Well, I've tried all the churches around here already, just forgot to mention it, I guess... They either only have a food bank, or soup kitchen type deal. The few that have any kinds of intervention programs have turned me away because I'm not a drug addict, or an unwed pregnant mother, AIDS patient, etc, like I mentioned in another post, so I don't get anything.

I really don't want to end up in a homeless shelter, but it looks like that's exactly where I'm headed. I've been trying to find a part-time job I can physically do, and keep the hours they want, but haven't found anything. I was working for a semi-retired lawyer I know for about 5 months, helping him with odd things, on the days I felt good, but that's dried up. He just doesn't have the work now. And nobody else is going to let me work whenever I feel good, you know ? That tosses out most of the prospects because of how many days I end up home in bed, feeling like absolute shit.

I really just don't know what to do...... It's pretty humiliating, to say the least, having to buy groceries with a fucking food stamps card, and get the looks from people, because I don't LOOK disabled or whatever.... It just seems there's no way out of this mess, no matter how hard I try. If I could just find a place to stay for a little while, and pay it off when the SSDI comes through, or if the docs can do SOMETHING to get me to a point where I CAN work enough again to support myself, then I could figure something out. Living in a goddamn homeless shelter isn't going to help me though, it's just going to make things worse, since I won't have anywhere to keep my tools for the small jobs I could get that I CAN still do, and if the marshals come and pack up all my shit and toss it and me in the street, then it all goes into storage, and when I don't have the money to get it out, they auction it all off and everything I have is gone.


No matter what I do, I just can't seem to get anywhere, it's really depressing.





No..... I could find plenty of work. Problem is, nobody's going to hire a guy who says "well, I can work some today, but I might be out tomorrow", you know ? They need somebody when they need them and that's taken away a lot of possibilities of a regular job, and not doing small thngs, Like I have been, for the past year and a half.


Nobody's going to go out of their way to fit their schedules to me, you know ? If I can't do the work, when they need it done, I'm out the door. Even if I could BS my way in the door, the first couple times I miss a day, I'm done... Not to mention I can't even carry my damn tools around anymore. Not knowing how I'm going to feel from day to day has made it really hard to even do the small shit I've been able to get on my own.




Thank you. I will absolutely try to get in touch with someone there, first thing tomorrow. All I've gotten from DSS so far is the run-around though. They tell me that since I'm not currently on SSDI, there's nothing else they'll do for me beyond the damned food stamps and the medical. I have to wonder how the hell they think a person is SUPPOSED to get themselves back on their feet. I tell everyone there the shit I've gone through since this started and most barely believe it, yet nobody will do anything to help me stop it from happening.

I'm so tired of all this and sick of living this way. All I want is my job and my life back again..... I really need some help, but I just can't find any. I just don't want to end up in a damned homeless shelter. If I could stop that from happening, I know I can figure the rest out somehow.





Thanks, I do appreciate it... It sure sounds like you went through a lot of the same shit I have, with doctors not knowing a damn thing. So far I haven't shown any inflamation indicators in the bloodwork that's been done, or anything on a nuclear medicine full-body bone scan, so as of right now, I probably dont have RA, or any other kind of arthritis, although some of the symptoms sure sound familiar, so who the hell knows. The odd thing is I have a LOT of muscle pain, which the back/neck problems that ARE definite, don't really explain.... At least not in my opinion.

Hell, I'm sitting here at 3am right now, because I can't sleep. Friggen neck hurts, my right hip is sore, even my damn hands hurt...it's friggen insanity...... I know EXACTLY what you're saying, right down to the .45 in the mouth..... If I said it never crossed my mind, I'd be lying....

I'm just so worn out...... I think if I have to go to that damn shelter and be surrounded by a bunch of crackheads and drunks every day, I'm gonna lose my mind.







Yeah, I've been looking around for anything, but the problem is, at least around here it seems, everybody wants people with experience, for the few jobs I've found. It's all I see... I guess it's because they have to pay somewhat decent money to GET anybody, so they don't want just any dummy off the streets.

That's closed a lot of doors for me, so far. It's been really frustrating. The biggest problem is, even when I do finally find something, the amount of hours I can only work right now, aren't going to pay my rent. So even with a job, I'm still looking at the damn shelter, because I won't be able to bring in enough money, unless the SSDI comes through, or the docs can fix me up somehow, to where I can work full time again, which really seems like a dream right now.

It just feels like a never ending freakin circle, and I keep getting knocked back down, every time I try and get back up. I really don't know how the hell I'm going to be able to get whatever care I may need, and still work, and be able to pay my rent somehow. Especially so, if I'm only able to bring in just a small part-time salary. The other thing is, if I end up making TOO much, (which AINT that much) then they take away my medical assistance coverage..... That puts me right back to square one. There's no way I can work full time, so I won't be getting any medical insurance from any job I might get, and without it, I can't surgery or whatever, if I end up needing it, so I HAVE to keep the assistance coverage, so I can still go to the doctors and get what needs doing, done.

I tell ya, I've never felt like such a waste of life. It's really getting to me. I'm trying so hard to figure some kind of angle on the whole thing, to make something happen, but I just keep falling flat on my face, over and over again.... It's not done wonders for my mental well being...

Thanks for the thoughts, Do appreciate them.
Hope you get your ankle fixed up soon and feeling better too. That must be such a drag...

Take care,
John




I sure would like to hope so..... The whole thing has me pretty down. I've just about got nothing left but the stuff in my apartment, and my car... and even that's hurting.. frustrates the hell out of me. Can't even buy some stupid car parts and fix the damn thing myself, you know ?

Talk about being useless... Just aint a great feeling.

Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:52:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By zoe17:
How can WE help?



Offer some words of encouragment. This isn't a fund raiser.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:56:27 PM EDT
Before people start offering suggestion on how to find work in his profession as an Electrician, he cannot do physical work because of chronic pain from injuries sustained.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:59:20 PM EDT
How can i help? If he was closer to ND, I'd offer up a roof and a cot. Heck, the couch isn't in use.
I know how rough times are. And sometimes, total stangers can save your bacon.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:01:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NAM:
How can i help? If he was closer to ND, I'd offer up a roof and a cot. Heck, the couch isn't in use.
I know how rough times are. And sometimes, total stangers can save your bacon.



He's in CT by the way. Thanks NAM!
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:04:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mobius:
well if he's a team member he can always ask for his "donation" back



You'e a fucking asshole. What state is this member in need in?
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:05:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Combatvet:

Originally Posted By mobius:
well if he's a team member he can always ask for his "donation" back



You'e a fucking asshole. What state is this member in need in?



CT
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:05:47 PM EDT
mobius' trolling seems to be working. All these personal attacks will get this thread locked.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:11:27 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:13:05 PM EDT
Damn it.

No one needs to lock this thread.

NOT THIS ONE.

Someone needs help here.

You want to lock something? Lock accounts. Send PM's. Don't punish this guy for others' stupidity.

That being said.

I just started a business. Money is tight. But not nonexistant. I was gonna pay for a membership tonight.

But that can wait till next week, if this person wants. I can manage a few bucks, if it would help.

And if not, I offer my encouragement. He could have my couch for a couple weeks, if here were in FL.

Anyone else who's a non-member up to help out a little? Hell, you may even know of work this guy could do, even given his condition.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:13:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 1GUNRUNNER:

Originally Posted By Palo_Duro:
mobius' trolling seems to be working. All these personal attacks will get this thread locked.



nah, the problem was just remedied.



Thank you, sir.

Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:14:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 1GUNRUNNER:

Originally Posted By Palo_Duro:
mobius' trolling seems to be working. All these personal attacks will get this thread locked.



nah, the problem was just remedied.





Did I ever tell you that you have dreamy eyes?
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:15:43 PM EDT
Ok guys lets get back on topic....
One of our own needs a little assistance...
Lets do a paypal donation or something...

WTH people can give to the ungratefuls from NOLA...
lets help this guy out.

Maybe one of the site staff can contact this guy to make it more credible to all the Nay Sayers
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:18:04 PM EDT
Someone needs to setup a paypal account for this asap.

I wish I had more money, there's just too many options to donate money to.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:28:33 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:34:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 1GUNRUNNER:
I can't really take the credit. I just saw an email that beeboy sent through the system. NTL he is gone.








Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:36:40 PM EDT
1GUNRUNNER,
What is the process to get the"seal of approval" from the site staff to setup something for this guy?
I am in and I know several others are as well.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:36:41 PM EDT
Tag for info.

I'd like to help.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:48:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/12/2005 8:50:33 PM EDT by captainpooby]
I'd like to help but my money has recently gone to a friend who lost everything in Katrina. Good luck.


And some advice? Please dont ever post anything I post in Team in the GD.

It's a gentleman's agreement to be private communication. I'd be pissed but that's just me.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:49:28 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 3:16:01 AM EDT

Originally Posted By xcell:
A single guy on SEC 8? yeah right they would never do it.



tell that to the 1000's that are on it and are single,,i work around w/ sec 8. we have plenty that are single female,, and single male sect 8 users. trust me they do give it out. he may not be able to live inthe best of the nest neighbor hood wise but it will be a home. Most if not some folks pay very very lil on rent. lil example.

single college kid,,on sec 8, male, 20's, no job... 12$ a month
disabled single male, late 40's sec 8/hope 6 under 50$ a month paid.
mentally challenge mid 40's lady, under 100$ each month for rent outta that 550$
blind guy mid 30's... almost free rent
crack whore single mid 30's, running weed outta her apot, while a livein boyfirend palys x-box on their big screen all day 25$ in rent,,, thanks sec8

the rent at their locations is 550+$ sect 8 picks up the tab, plain and simple!

he should also contact HUD, they will help.
as will some church org's.!! as is aid houseing can be had,,, unless he has givin up.
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 4:17:39 AM EDT
ok guys, we need to know if he has a paypal account....

I don't have lots of money to give but i have given some to Katrina, plus some work for them, goods, etc. So I think I can spare a little extra.

Time to help someone else out here. I don't know how to head this up but if he has a paypal account, would even $10 hurt some of you? Perhaps we could get him in a month rate hotel or something if no one around CT can help him out.

Imagine 100 arfcomers giving 5 or 10 bucks ...would maybe help out, even with the car parts, or could get him a room for rent somewhere...something better than a shelter .

(and no he would never get section 8 housing without a family and unless he is a minority most of the time).

Lets not diverge here...lets get some hands up so we can keep this topic at the top of the board.

Essayons
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 4:47:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/13/2005 4:55:18 AM EDT by u-baddog]

Originally Posted By 1GUNRUNNER:

Originally Posted By Palo_Duro:
mobius' trolling seems to be working. All these personal attacks will get this thread locked.



nah, the problem was just remedied.



Thanks.



I have a disc problem that sounds alot like what he is going through.
The doc's blew it off as muscle aches and pains until I broke bad and demanded a MRI. The MRI showed it clear as day, a bulging disc is pushing on my spinal cord. It has different affects on my body depending what I am doing. Head aches to weakness in my limbs and loss of feeling in different parts of my body, mind numbing pain that drugs just dont cut unless you call being passed out OK.

I dont use paypal anymore but I have always responed to members in need so whats next ?
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 4:48:52 AM EDT
The best I can offer right now is some encouragement. My mother was denied for SSDI and SSI. She had to go through pretty much all the same stuff. But it did come through for her, finally. She did have to lawyer up, and she chose to get a private lawyer, rather than one supplied by the state. So she did lose 1/3 of the back pay. But they did end up giving her pay back to the date that it was originally filed.

From her experience, and others, you are almost guaranteed to be denied the first time, and better than 50-50 for the second time, unless you are a druggie felon/crack ho.

I also had to deal with the state of CT in the last 5 years, and they are a bunch of putz's, I still have one more item to clear up with them before I am free of their miserable tentacles.

If you are a vet, you could try the VA, I have been helped by them in the past for medical issues.

Finally, if you are a believer, remember, God will never put more on you than you can bear. Every time I have thought I was at the end of my rope, He has always come through.

Guys,

If you do set up a fund, IM me the info so I can send something.

Thanks,

dave
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 4:55:36 AM EDT
I don't have much, but I am willing to send what I can. Please keep us posted...thanks.
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 8:16:49 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 8:21:31 AM EDT

Originally Posted By -brass-:

Originally Posted By captainpooby:


And some advice? Please dont ever post anything I post in Team in the GD.

It's a gentleman's agreement to be private communication. I'd be pissed but that's just me.



Please Heed THIS!!

What is posted in Team STAYS in Team!



+1.


Seriously, if he wants help, I'm 100% for it - but he has to ask.

I've gotten in deep poop before trying to 'help' someone who didn't want it.
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