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Posted: 6/26/2001 12:22:23 PM EDT
THE FOLLOWING IS FROM AN ACTUAL 1950'S HOME ECONOMICS TEXTBOOK INTENDED FOR HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS, TEACHING THEM HOW TO PREPARE FOR MARRIED LIFE:

1. Have dinner ready. Plan ahead, even the night before, to have a delicious meal-on time. This is a way of letting him know that you have been thinking about him, and are concerned about his needs. Most men are hungry when they come home and the prospects of a good meal are part of the warm welcome needed.

2. Prepare yourself. Take 15 minutes to rest so you will be refreshed when he arrives. Touch up your make-up, put a ribbon your hair and be fresh looking. He has been with a lot of work-weary people. Be a little  gay and a little more interesting. His boring day may need a lift.

3. Clear away clutter. Make one last trip through the main part of the house just before your husband arrives, gather up school books, toys, paper, etc. Then run a dust cloth over the tables. Your husband will feel he has reached a haven of rest and order, and it will give you a lift too.

4. Prepare the children. Take a few minutes to wash the children's hands and faces if they are small, comb their hair, and if necessary, change their clothes. They are little treasures and he would like to see them playing the part.

5. Minimize the noise. At the time of his arrival, eliminate all noise of washer, dryer or vacuum. Try to encourage the children to be quiet. Greet him with a warm smile and be glad to see him.


Some DON'TS.

1. Don't greet him with problems or complaints.

2. Don't complain if he's late for dinner. Count this as minor compared with what he might have gone through that day.

3. Make him comfortable. Have him lean back in a comfortable chair or suggest he lay down in the bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him. Arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low,soothing and pleasant voice. Allow him to relax and unwind.

4. Listen to him. You may have a dozen things to tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first.

5. Make the evening his. Never complain if he does not take you out to dinner or to other places of entertainment instead try to understand his world of strain and pressure and his need to be home and relax. The goal: Try to make your home a place of peace and order where your husband can relax.
Link Posted: 6/26/2001 12:32:26 PM EDT
[#1]
How about another do...

6. Have a pornographic video ready to play in the VCR, apply lip gloss and offer oral sex. Have some KY lubricant handy in case he feels extra frisky. Be gentle as he has probably had his balls busted all day.

radioman
Link Posted: 6/26/2001 12:55:09 PM EDT
[#2]
[sex]
Link Posted: 6/26/2001 1:11:03 PM EDT
[#3]
No comment.
Link Posted: 6/26/2001 1:19:33 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
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OH C'MON. You know you're dying to say something....Just do it....Be a man....or better yet....Be a GARANDMAN!
Link Posted: 6/26/2001 1:19:58 PM EDT
[#5]
Link Posted: 6/26/2001 1:24:01 PM EDT
[#6]
Boy, you opened a can of worms with this one.  I was going to say Pandora's box, but, well, you know.
Link Posted: 6/26/2001 1:36:25 PM EDT
[#7]
And this was on what planet?

[:P]

Link Posted: 6/26/2001 6:22:35 PM EDT
[#8]
actually, i agree.  it's a respect thing.  but no less should be expected from him.
Link Posted: 6/26/2001 6:34:26 PM EDT
[#9]
Damn.  Who here was born 50 years too late.

Raising my hand. [>(]

Link Posted: 6/26/2001 6:35:59 PM EDT
[#10]
If you can dish it out, then you should be willing to eat it.  Flame away.

"A Women's Little Instruction Book"

Woman don't make fools of men -- most of them are the do-it-yourself types.

The best reason to divorce a man is a health reason: you're sick of him.

Never trust a man who says he's the boss at home. He probably lies about other things too.

The woman's work that is never done is the stuff she asked her husband to do.

If you think the way to a man's heart is through his stomach you're aiming too high.

Go for younger men. You might as well -- they never mature anyway.

Men are all the same -- they just have different faces so you can tell them apart.

Definition of a man with manners -- he gets out of the bath to pee.

Whenever you meet a man who would make a good husband, you will usually find that he is.

Scientists have just discovered something that can do the work of five men -- a woman.

There are a lot of words you can use to describe men -- strong, caring, loving -- they'd be wrong but you could still use them.

Men are like animals -- messy, insensitive and potentially violent -- but they make great pets.

There are only two four letter words that are offensive to men -- "don't" and "stop".

Husbands are like children -- they're fine if they're someone else's.

My husband is, of course, excluded from this.  I married the best man in the whole world!
[sex]
Link Posted: 6/26/2001 8:07:27 PM EDT
[#11]
Link Posted: 6/26/2001 8:13:22 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Sounds like the way my mother-in-law raised my wife. There are men's chores and women's chores and my wife refuses to let me do her's even when she is sick.

I am allowed to:
Empty the garbage
Change the oil on the car
Wash the car
Barbecue steaks/ribs
Make pizzas
Walk the dog
Fix appliances

Can't do:
Wash dishes
Run the dish washer
Vacuum
Laundry
Ironing
Sewing
Dusting
Cleaning
Wash the dog
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They don't make them like that in the USA any more. That's why I found me a nice asian...
Link Posted: 6/26/2001 8:19:50 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Damn.  Who here was born 50 years too late.

Raising my hand. [>(]

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Or 60.  Hand up. [:(]
Link Posted: 6/26/2001 8:21:01 PM EDT
[#14]
Good god Gertie, get a gander at the gaping gash on that gal!
Link Posted: 6/26/2001 8:21:02 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
If you can dish it out, then you should be willing to eat it.  Flame away.

"A Women's Little Instruction Book"

Woman don't make fools of men -- most of them are the do-it-yourself types.

The best reason to divorce a man is a health reason: you're sick of him.

Never trust a man who says he's the boss at home. He probably lies about other things too.

The woman's work that is never done is the stuff she asked her husband to do.

If you think the way to a man's heart is through his stomach you're aiming too high.

Go for younger men. You might as well -- they never mature anyway.

Men are all the same -- they just have different faces so you can tell them apart.

Definition of a man with manners -- he gets out of the bath to pee.

Whenever you meet a man who would make a good husband, you will usually find that he is.

Scientists have just discovered something that can do the work of five men -- a woman.

There are a lot of words you can use to describe men -- strong, caring, loving -- they'd be wrong but you could still use them.

Men are like animals -- messy, insensitive and potentially violent -- but they make great pets.

There are only two four letter words that are offensive to men -- "don't" and "stop".

Husbands are like children -- they're fine if they're someone else's.

My husband is, of course, excluded from this.  I married the best man in the whole world!
[sex]
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Funny thing to note. The original post was not derogatory or meant to inflict ridicule on women but to tell a women how to best take care of a man.

Your post on the other hand was derogatory to and meant to ridicule men. Interesting perspective and way of thinking you have.

If you had posted how a man could best take care of his woman that would have been useful and less of a window into your personality.

Just an observation. Please continue to dish it out.


Oh and ARlady, since YOU seem to have caught on, why don't you offer a list of what men can do for their woman who are slightly less vindictive and more deserving than glockgrrrl.

Oh and glocks suck.
Link Posted: 6/26/2001 9:25:31 PM EDT
[#16]
[b]Funny thing to note. The original post was not derogatory or meant to inflict ridicule on women but to tell a women how to best take care of a man.[/b]

Right.  After seeing so many examples of gender based humor, I thought it was acceptable.

[b]Your post on the other hand was derogatory to and meant to ridicule men. [/b]

Waaaahhhhh.  And the past posts on why women shouldn't vote, should stay in the kitchen, and shouldn't own firearms aren't derogatory to women?  My post was aimed towards the general sentiment on this forum, not necessarily at you.

[b]Interesting perspective and way of thinking you have.[/b]

Many of our male posters here have said that their beliefs come by being treated so poorly by women.  Why is it their opinions and attempts at humor are more valid than mine?

[b]If you had posted how a man could best take care of his woman that would have been useful and less of a window into your personality. [/b]

What window into my personality?  It was humor.

[b]Just an observation. Please continue to dish it out.[/b]

Okay.

[b]Oh and ARlady, since YOU seem to have caught on, why don't you offer a list of what men can do for their woman who are slightly less vindictive and more deserving than glockgrrrl.[/b]

Deserving of what?  Being treated poorly for making a gender based joke, the way so many males have on this forum?

[b]Oh and glocks suck.[/b]
This part of your post on the other hand was derogatory to and meant to ridicule me. Interesting perspective and way of thinking you have.

[rolleyes]
Link Posted: 6/26/2001 9:27:56 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Sounds like the way my mother-in-law raised my wife. There are men's chores and women's chores and my wife refuses to let me do her's even when she is sick.

I am allowed to:
Empty the garbage
Change the oil on the car
Wash the car
Barbecue steaks/ribs
Make pizzas
Walk the dog
Fix appliances

Can't do:
Wash dishes
Run the dish washer
Vacuum
Laundry
Ironing
Sewing
Dusting
Cleaning
Wash the dog
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Does she have a sister?
Link Posted: 6/26/2001 9:37:01 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
[b]Oh and glocks suck.[/b]
This part of your post on the other hand was derogatory to and meant to ridicule me. Interesting perspective and way of thinking you have.

[rolleyes]
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NOT TRUE. Glocks, despite being Austrian degign and manufacture, do suck. I don't know how they did it, but Germanic Europeans actually produced a real piece of shit. Of course the Steyr M ain't that frickin' great either.

Did not know you have been regularly subjected to the "board." I just thought you were another bitch who came to fuck with me. I'm not a "women shouldn't vote" member and as a result took your post as somewhat hostile. Please consider yourself exempted from my criticism and for godsakes buy a real handgun.
Link Posted: 6/26/2001 10:21:23 PM EDT
[#19]
Ouch.
Link Posted: 6/26/2001 10:59:31 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
If you can dish it out, then you should be willing to eat it.  Flame away.

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O.K. howabout this little gem "never trust anyone who can bleed for a week and not die"
Link Posted: 6/26/2001 11:01:20 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Sounds like the way my mother-in-law raised my wife. There are men's chores and women's chores and my wife refuses to let me do her's even when she is sick.

I am allowed to:
Empty the garbage
Change the oil on the car
Wash the car
Barbecue steaks/ribs
Make pizzas
Walk the dog
Fix appliances

Can't do:
Wash dishes
Run the dish washer
Vacuum
Laundry
Ironing
Sewing
Dusting
Cleaning
Wash the dog
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Wow Paul! You are the Man![smoke]

Hell the only thing I don't do on the above list is ironing and sewing. But my wife doesn't either.[rolleyes]

The wife is a Brazillian and sex was INCREDABLE [SEX] at first. After 2 kids, 2 dogs, 2 cats, and a damn iguana, I am lucky if I have time to take care of business by myself.[SLEEP]

The BraZillians spell it with a z not an s. The famales out number the males 11 to 1. I have heard from relatives that a female will kill another woman for a man. Men are rare there, the dumbasses keep killing each other off.

Well it was a hell of a ride while it lasted.[bounce]

Dan

Link Posted: 6/27/2001 5:15:02 AM EDT
[#22]
OK, now that the "pleasantries" are out of the way on this thread, I  ***WILL**** comment -

First off, note that my wife works a full time job, like I do. And we don't have children.

As much as her work schedule allows, she follows the items in Steyr's thread opener. She gets home about an hour before me, and has dinner cooking, tries not to bombard me when I first walk in with all sorts of trivia - in general, caters to me.

In turn, I try to treat her like a princess. I attempt to give her much affection and support, buy her little things that say "I was thinking about you today." In general - I treat her like a delicate vase, putting her in a place of honor.

In short, we follow the Biblical pattern for marriage.

Steyr Aug -

Regardless of what you think about the Bible and religion, its in your own best interest for you and your wife to find out and follow what God recommends for married life. It will bring peace and happiness in the home. Which leads to GREAT sex, EXACTLY the way God intended that it should. (File this under "advice for newly marrieds.")

re: Paul's comment -

My wife doesn't try to stop me from vacuuming, doing dishes, laundry, etc. Which is as it should be, since we BOTH work. Admitedly, I don't do enuf in these areas (my opinion) Now, if my wife didn't work, that would be another story.

Now, where's Miss Magnum to hammer me for my antiquated, sexist, chauvinistic, bigoted, prehistoric view of the world??? [rolleyes]
Link Posted: 6/27/2001 6:06:35 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Now, where's Miss Magnum to hammer me for my antiquated, sexist, chauvinistic, bigoted, prehistoric view of the world??? [rolleyes]
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What?  Miss me already? [:P]

I hadn't commented earlier for my own reasons... the fact is, I have been married and have done all of the above... although perhaps not with the absolute consistency the article implys.  

I believe the man should be the man and the woman should be the woman in a relationship.  And I love to cater to my man.  It genuinely makes me happy.  It just so happens that in my case, if he doesn't feel like getting banged up and dirty and I don't feel like standing over a sink that I will go drop the deck on the mower and repair it and he can do the dishes. ::shrug::  

Each relationship is different.  It's what you two agree on and are comfortable with and, most importantly, [i]what works[/i]....  
Link Posted: 6/27/2001 6:08:41 AM EDT
[#24]
Oh... one more thing...

I would prefer to just hire a housekeeper for the mundane things so we would have more time to enjoy each other.... [sex]
Link Posted: 6/27/2001 6:26:38 AM EDT
[#25]
garandman thanks for your comments.
I wish my husband and I could get along so well.
It's hard when one person does all the giving and the other just takes.  I could get up on my soapbox and mean-mouth my husband but what good is it going to do.
It takes love, work and understanding to make a marriage endure.My  grandparents are living proof of this. They were married 70 years,my grandfather past away on April 17 of this year.
Link Posted: 6/27/2001 6:36:06 AM EDT
[#26]
my wife takes care of me so i take care of her.
Link Posted: 6/27/2001 6:36:23 AM EDT
[#27]
Link Posted: 6/27/2001 7:26:57 AM EDT
[#28]
I agree with Garandman, burn and DK-Prof.

While I'd say that the advice given was pretty fair for it's time, times have changed.

I strive to treat my wife as my equal in every respect.  The reality is I'm giving myself the benifit of the doubt in a lot of areas. ;-)

Over our 13 years I've watched as my wife's confidence in herself has grown and it has done nothing but make our marriage stonger and sex lives better.

There are few things I take more pride in than seeing my wife take her Harley through a curve while pulling away from some guy who was just commenting on how women shouldn't ride, or watching the expression on guys faces at the range as she blasts the X ring out of a target with her .357 SP101 using full bore magnum rounds, or listening to the "proper" ladies on the street cackle when she gets home before me and cuts the grass hereself.
Link Posted: 6/27/2001 8:24:45 AM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
Yeah, stuff like that from the 50's is a hoot.

Of course, it is crucial to remember that it is based on the reality that the woman did not work outside the house.  If that were the case, then I think much of that advice would be quite appropriate.

Here's my question for SteyrAUG (not meant to be confrontational).  Is your suggestion gender-neutral? - in that you would expect the same from a man who stayed at home to raise the little kids while his wife pulled in the big bucks as a VP at an ad agency?

(Of course you might want to skip the make-up and the hair ribbon  [:D] ).

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Actually I just posted it because I thought it was kinda funny. But to answer your question;

1. Right now I am home and unemployed/retired/looking for a job? Haven't decided.

2. She is at work.

3. I have cleaned the house(I'm a neat freak)and done some dishes(ok the dishwasher did the work but I loaded it and pushed the button.) And shudder the thought...I will probably cook dinner(but I usually do this whenever I can because I'm a better cook after two years of school and former employment in restraunts).

4. But this is all just so she will be free later for our mutual enjoyment.
Link Posted: 6/27/2001 4:07:56 PM EDT
[#30]
ask and ye shall receive (albeit a little late cuz i'm fightin' a cold that just will not quit.  i've dubbed it the demovirus.)

i can't speak for all women, and i'm not the girly-girl type, so i can't even begin to fathom their desires, but here goes.

i don't necessarily wanted to be treated as an equal because i'm female.  i wanted to be treated as a equal because i'm a human.  but i do NOT wanted to be treated an inferior because i'm female.  big ass turnoff.  if i can't do something, dammit, teach me how.

little things are very important.  an email, a phone call, a note on stuck under the windshield wiper saying "i love you" or "i was thinking about you".  taking me out to dinner just because he wants to be with me not because it's someone's dinner or anniversary.

spending time together doing things we both like.  in my case, that list includes: shooting, fishing, hiking, working up the 'stang (and when i get it, my chevelle), movies, horseback riding if i can ever get him over his phobia, dinners on the living floor, yadda, yadda, yadda.  listed in a quasi-particular order.

and as always a healthy, exciting sex life is a must for any relationship to be successful.
Link Posted: 6/27/2001 4:12:50 PM EDT
[#31]
C'mon step by step specifics like in the original post. Remember some of us ain't that smart/creative.

You need to tell us exactly how you like your feet rubbed or the way we sometimes wash your hair in the bathtub....
Link Posted: 6/27/2001 4:13:11 PM EDT
[#32]
Originally Posted By Miss Magnum:
Oh... one more thing...

I would prefer to just hire a housekeeper for the mundane things so we would have more time to enjoy each other.... [sex]
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Amen to that- "AND I DON'T DO WINDOWS!" :^)
Link Posted: 6/27/2001 4:15:59 PM EDT
[#33]
Originally Posted By Miss Magnum:
Oh... one more thing...

I would prefer to just hire a housekeeper for the mundane things so we would have more time to enjoy each other.... [sex]
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Hey, any woman that is on this board is OK with me [;)] compared to my gun hating liberal wife....
Link Posted: 6/27/2001 4:33:16 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
THE FOLLOWING IS FROM AN ACTUAL 1950'S HOME ECONOMICS TEXTBOOK INTENDED FOR HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS, TEACHING THEM HOW TO PREPARE FOR MARRIED LIFE:

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As sexist and one-side as the manual seems, not all of it is off the mark- the desire to come home from a pressure cooker job and not face even more BS and hassle at home is one that we all would like to have fulfilled, no?

My missus is in the medical field and is at work from 7 in the morning until sometimes past 7 at night. Then she has to be on-call, sometimes all weekend, sometimes go back to the hospital or make house calls, and do bales of paperwork for the govt. and insurance companies- it NEVER stops, even when she's on vacation. Who wouldn't want some relief from that when they come home?

Both of us believe that one parent should stay home with our three kids instead of having them raised by strangers in day care, well, guess who's at home, Yep, me. I was a teacher, and she is a family doc. Do the math.

It would be nice to have a housekeeper, but as we had to cut back on a lot of things, when I decided to stay home and run the show, I am the housekeeper now. And nurse. And cook. And dishwasher. And roofer. And mechanic. And chauffeur.... etc. etc. Somebody has to do it.

So, I try not to dump the kids' problems and my concerns on her when she comes home. I try to treat her the way I would like to be treated, were I in her shoes. (NO, I would NOT like to be in her field....you couldn't pay me enough to do it.)

Must be working- we've known each other 15 years, been married for 13, have two boys (9 and 6) and one girl (4). I have my hands full, and our house is not exactly something out of Martha Stewart (whom I detest), but for a guy's way of "running the house" the house is clean enough (albeit cluttered), food's on the table, the kids are happy, properly fed and clothed, and reasonably well-adjusted, and I have lots of guns.

There ya go. Be nice to your spouse, whoever you are. You never know- it could be you that's the caregiver at some point.
Link Posted: 6/27/2001 4:51:40 PM EDT
[#35]
specifics, heh?

um.  well, i'm not sure i can.  i don't live with my sig. other so this isn't something i'm personally familiar with.  but i'll give it a stab, since we plan on me staying home to raise and educate the brats.

i don't mind following the previously posted guidelines.  but, just because i didn't go into the office doesn't mean that i can't have a bad day at work.  so the guy shouldn't bring home any of the crap that goes on at work.  a discussion to vent is acceptable.  a bitch session that relays the message "you wouldn't understand because you don't work" isn't.

and i don't get paid for my job in negotiable currency.  granted there are benefits derived from it, they're all intangibles, so someone's got to share the income.  (i don't see that being a problem with me, but as a general rule, ya know.  however, if she is a shop-aholic, all bets are off.  keep the cash away from her.)

if my house cleanin' or meal cookin' isn't to your likin', do it yourself.  though i will always strive to have a clean house and good food (favorite meals), the minute he starts complaining about it is the minute he starves or starts cooking.  i can pull that "i slave all day for you" crap too.  [:D]

some women like to do traditionally male activities, but that doesn't necessarily mean we want to be treated as "one of the guys".  we still wanted to be recognized for who we are.  and yet, some like to do those girly things (i don't relate to this very much).  accept that girls do girly things and guys do manly things. accept it.  that's it.  you don't have to like it.  but just accept it.  (in turn, she should do the same.)

although we (well, i) don't HAVE to have the door held for us, when he does it because he wants to, it's so very cool.  keep in mind, if he has to push her out of the way to get to the door first, it's probably best to just let her pull and then hold it open for her as she walks through!  [:)]

i like chivalry which seems contradictory because of all the forays i make into typically men activities.

oh, and my feet have to be rubbed just so because i'm extremely ticklish there.

is that better?
Link Posted: 6/27/2001 6:00:40 PM EDT
[#36]
better.
Link Posted: 6/27/2001 6:18:06 PM EDT
[#37]
Link Posted: 6/27/2001 6:33:29 PM EDT
[#38]
1950's....?  Creepy book, sounds like that "Stepford Wives" movie.
Link Posted: 6/27/2001 7:07:02 PM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
SteyrAUG.. you gotta be a sucker for punishment. You have 2 or 3 threads on the go and not many posters in them are offering warm fuzzy hugs![;)]
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