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Posted: 3/28/2012 8:21:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/28/2012 8:33:04 PM EDT by 501st]
The M1911



It's lasted 101 years, hopefully it will stick around for several more.



Post your personal M1911 pictures, it will make this day/thread even better.
Link Posted: 3/28/2012 8:25:48 PM EDT
Coolest pistol EVAR.

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Link Posted: 3/28/2012 8:25:57 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/28/2012 8:28:20 PM EDT

An epic day indeed!
Link Posted: 3/28/2012 8:31:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/28/2012 8:34:33 PM EDT by 9mmRandy]
I bought this GI for the anniversary


More 1911

Link Posted: 3/28/2012 8:31:47 PM EDT
Without a doubt the greatest handgun of all time.
Link Posted: 3/28/2012 8:33:08 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/28/2012 8:34:31 PM EDT
I got mine back from Colt's custom shop today.
Link Posted: 3/28/2012 8:42:58 PM EDT
28 years ago the US Army accepted the Italians & Swiss made better combat handguns than the 1911.

Link Posted: 3/28/2012 8:45:43 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 556A2:
28 years ago the US Army accepted the Italians & Swiss made better combat handguns than the 1911.






They bowed down to politics. Nothing more.
Link Posted: 3/28/2012 8:46:15 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 556A2:
28 years ago the US Army accepted the Italians & Swiss made better combat handguns than the 1911.



Pass the popcorn please.
Link Posted: 3/28/2012 8:47:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 556A2:
28 years ago the US Army accepted the Italians & Swiss made better combat handguns than the 1911.


the little ladies always have the cutest avatars.
Link Posted: 3/28/2012 8:48:26 PM EDT
Who cares.

8 rounds? pffft.....


this is better

Link Posted: 3/28/2012 8:50:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/28/2012 8:50:17 PM EDT by Foxnews_FTW]
Originally Posted By DanTSX:
Who cares.

8 rounds? pffft.....


this is better

http://www.famous-guns.com/wp-content/uploads/glock-17-03.jpg


KB'd image?
Link Posted: 3/28/2012 8:52:37 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 501st:
Originally Posted By 556A2:
28 years ago the US Army accepted the Italians & Swiss made better combat handguns than the 1911.




http://www.darron.net/forum/images/ban_him.jpg

They bowed down to politics. Nothing more.


They bowed that 15 round of 9mm is inherently better than 7 rounds of .45ACP on a battlefield.

Law Enforcement also got the memo.
Link Posted: 3/28/2012 8:58:03 PM EDT
bringing this thread back on track with a post of my own

Link Posted: 3/28/2012 9:01:18 PM EDT


Thank you JMB
Link Posted: 3/28/2012 9:04:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/28/2012 9:05:56 PM EDT by 501st]
Originally Posted By 556A2:
Originally Posted By 501st:
Originally Posted By 556A2:
28 years ago the US Army accepted the Italians & Swiss made better combat handguns than the 1911.




http://www.darron.net/forum/images/ban_him.jpg

They bowed down to politics. Nothing more.


They bowed that 15 round of 9mm is inherently better than 7 rounds of .45ACP on a battlefield.

Law Enforcement also got the memo.


If you are down to your sidearm on the battlefield, SHTF and you are probably SOL. And there are 10 round mags available.
Link Posted: 3/28/2012 9:04:48 PM EDT
Personally, I would take 8 or 9 rounds of .45 in a 1911 over the Beretta any day. No data or ultra real world stats to back up my choice but that would be what I would choose.
I carry a 1911 almost every day anymore, even over my G19 lately. It's just such a great design in my eyes and has had well over 2200 rounds through it with zero malfunctions, I easily trust my life to it.

My EDC Springfield Mil Spec customized by me:


My Ithaca 1911 made in 1943 carried by my grandpa in Korea
Link Posted: 3/28/2012 9:07:52 PM EDT
...and it was good....
Link Posted: 3/28/2012 9:15:28 PM EDT
Retired Olympic Shooter and San Francisco gunsmith Bob Chow specialized in tuning the 1911. When the Beretta was adopted he remarked that the 1911 was a gun that a GI could replace parts easily with just a screwdriver. The newer guns couldn't be fixed in the field. I sold my Beretta but never parted with a 1911.
Link Posted: 3/28/2012 9:36:34 PM EDT



Link Posted: 3/28/2012 9:43:45 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 556A2:
Originally Posted By 501st:
Originally Posted By 556A2:
28 years ago the US Army accepted the Italians & Swiss made better combat handguns than the 1911.




http://www.darron.net/forum/images/ban_him.jpg

They bowed down to politics. Nothing more.


They bowed that 15 round of 9mm is inherently better than 7 rounds of .45ACP on a battlefield.

Law Enforcement also got the memo.


Everyone but the US mil realized that 17 is even better with a lightweight polymer frame and a recoil system that doesn't have a locking block that cracks or slides that fly off.

People will be shooting the M1911 long after the M9 is a "WTF were we thinking?" footnote.

Link Posted: 3/28/2012 9:47:54 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 4v50:
Retired Olympic Shooter and San Francisco gunsmith Bob Chow specialized in tuning the 1911. When the Beretta was adopted he remarked that the 1911 was a gun that a GI could replace parts easily with just a screwdriver. The newer guns couldn't be fixed in the field. I sold my Beretta but never parted with a 1911.


If a GI could repair a 1911 with a screwdriver in the field, then why do 1911's need expensive tune-ups and modifications to be made reliable from gunsmiths like Bob Chow?
Link Posted: 3/28/2012 9:53:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DanTSX:
Originally Posted By 4v50:
Retired Olympic Shooter and San Francisco gunsmith Bob Chow specialized in tuning the 1911. When the Beretta was adopted he remarked that the 1911 was a gun that a GI could replace parts easily with just a screwdriver. The newer guns couldn't be fixed in the field. I sold my Beretta but never parted with a 1911.


If a GI could repair a 1911 with a screwdriver in the field, then why do 1911's need expensive tune-ups and modifications to be made reliable from gunsmiths like Bob Chow?

I shot 1k of Tula through my Springfield right out of the box, with no cleanings, and it ran 100%.
Link Posted: 3/28/2012 9:59:57 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DanTSX:
Originally Posted By 4v50:
Retired Olympic Shooter and San Francisco gunsmith Bob Chow specialized in tuning the 1911. When the Beretta was adopted he remarked that the 1911 was a gun that a GI could replace parts easily with just a screwdriver. The newer guns couldn't be fixed in the field. I sold my Beretta but never parted with a 1911.


If a GI could repair a 1911 with a screwdriver in the field, then why do 1911's need expensive tune-ups and modifications to be made reliable from gunsmiths like Bob Chow?


They don't (except some Kimbers). Some people just like to add enhancements or customizations.

Decent mags, like CMC, WC, or CM, acceptable ammo, and a vaguely well-built gun (RIA and Springfield spring to mind as budget options), and it won't need any tuning at all to run, assuming appropriate maintenance schedules.

And after I get my Glock 19 tuned-up to where I want it, it'll have a fair bit of extra $ in it, too.
Link Posted: 3/28/2012 10:36:06 PM EDT


Link Posted: 3/28/2012 10:45:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 501st:
Originally Posted By 556A2:
Originally Posted By 501st:
Originally Posted By 556A2:
28 years ago the US Army accepted the Italians & Swiss made better combat handguns than the 1911.




http://www.darron.net/forum/images/ban_him.jpg

They bowed down to politics. Nothing more.


They bowed that 15 round of 9mm is inherently better than 7 rounds of .45ACP on a battlefield.

Law Enforcement also got the memo.


If you are down to your sidearm on the battlefield, SHTF and you are probably SOL. And there are 10 round mags available.

So versatile, you can even get them sized for man hands which gets you a 14 round magazine:


Link Posted: 3/28/2012 10:45:51 PM EDT
Everybody can debate all they want.

I'm just here for the gun porn.
Link Posted: 3/28/2012 10:50:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DanTSX:
Originally Posted By 4v50:
Retired Olympic Shooter and San Francisco gunsmith Bob Chow specialized in tuning the 1911. When the Beretta was adopted he remarked that the 1911 was a gun that a GI could replace parts easily with just a screwdriver. The newer guns couldn't be fixed in the field. I sold my Beretta but never parted with a 1911.


If a GI could repair a 1911 with a screwdriver in the field, then why do 1911's need expensive tune-ups and modifications to be made reliable from gunsmiths like Bob Chow?

They don't. You don't even need a screw driver to do a detailed stripping. For example, the hammer strut is contoured to function as a sear/disconnector alignment tool. The sear tri spring (sear, grip safety and disconnector) can be used to remove all screws. The thumb safety can be used to drive the mainspring housing pin out.

Zero tools needed. About the only tools needed would be for sight, plunger tube and ejector replacement.

It is bullseye pistols which can be finicky. These are 50 yard, slow fire precision tools with 12 pound recoil springs. Not for hard ball ammo. Combat handguns are very reliable, only needing spring swaps after a few thousand rounds.

Link Posted: 3/28/2012 10:53:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RifleCal30m1n00b:
Originally Posted By DanTSX:
Originally Posted By 4v50:
Retired Olympic Shooter and San Francisco gunsmith Bob Chow specialized in tuning the 1911. When the Beretta was adopted he remarked that the 1911 was a gun that a GI could replace parts easily with just a screwdriver. The newer guns couldn't be fixed in the field. I sold my Beretta but never parted with a 1911.


If a GI could repair a 1911 with a screwdriver in the field, then why do 1911's need expensive tune-ups and modifications to be made reliable from gunsmiths like Bob Chow?


They don't (except some Kimbers). Some people just like to add enhancements or customizations.

Decent mags, like CMC, WC, or CM, acceptable ammo, and a vaguely well-built gun (RIA and Springfield spring to mind as budget options), and it won't need any tuning at all to run, assuming appropriate maintenance schedules.

And after I get my Glock 19 tuned-up to where I want it, it'll have a fair bit of extra $ in it, too.

When I purchased my Springfield, I had a few Wilson 47Ds. I needed more magazines and bought some NOS military issue magazines. Zero malfunctions. They just work. $4 each.
Link Posted: 3/28/2012 10:58:43 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Keith_J:

Originally Posted By RifleCal30m1n00b:
Originally Posted By DanTSX:
Originally Posted By 4v50:
Retired Olympic Shooter and San Francisco gunsmith Bob Chow specialized in tuning the 1911. When the Beretta was adopted he remarked that the 1911 was a gun that a GI could replace parts easily with just a screwdriver. The newer guns couldn't be fixed in the field. I sold my Beretta but never parted with a 1911.


If a GI could repair a 1911 with a screwdriver in the field, then why do 1911's need expensive tune-ups and modifications to be made reliable from gunsmiths like Bob Chow?


They don't (except some Kimbers). Some people just like to add enhancements or customizations.

Decent mags, like CMC, WC, or CM, acceptable ammo, and a vaguely well-built gun (RIA and Springfield spring to mind as budget options), and it won't need any tuning at all to run, assuming appropriate maintenance schedules.

And after I get my Glock 19 tuned-up to where I want it, it'll have a fair bit of extra $ in it, too.

When I purchased my Springfield, I had a few Wilson 47Ds. I needed more magazines and bought some NOS military issue magazines. Zero malfunctions. They just work. $4 each.


Only reason I didn't include GI mags (though CM––Check-Mate––makes a GI mag repro) is the profusion of fake GI mags at gunshows and the like, and most of them have a tendency not to work as well as the real thing, I'm given to understand.

But you're right. Real GI-spec magazines would be another excellent choice.
Link Posted: 3/28/2012 11:01:31 PM EDT


Acquired it 3/28/2012 without realizing
Link Posted: 3/28/2012 11:06:15 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/28/2012 11:15:37 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Ragin_Cajun:
Originally Posted By 556A2:
Originally Posted By 501st:
Originally Posted By 556A2:
28 years ago the US Army accepted the Italians & Swiss made better combat handguns than the 1911.




http://www.darron.net/forum/images/ban_him.jpg

They bowed down to politics. Nothing more.


They bowed that 15 round of 9mm is inherently better than 7 rounds of .45ACP on a battlefield.

Law Enforcement also got the memo.


Everyone but the US mil realized that 17 is even better with a lightweight polymer frame and a recoil system that doesn't have a locking block that cracks or slides that fly off.

People will be shooting the M1911 long after the M9 is a "WTF were we thinking?" footnote.

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q285/ragin_cajun_photos/Kimber1911.jpg


Slide failure was fixed in the 80s, and current locking blocks are rated at 30K rounds. Plus replacing a locking block is cheaper & quicker than a slide. Lets not forget most M9 woes are due to lack of preventive maintenance & aftermarket magazines which will choke any service pistol. I do agree the G17/P30/M&P are better designs for a service pistol.

The M9 will probably have a 50 year or longer service life, and the same nostalgia factor will happen whenever the next service pistol is adopted.

I appreciate the 1911, and its a classic design. However, its been surpassed by many other pistols since 1935.

Link Posted: 3/29/2012 6:38:34 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Keith_J:

Originally Posted By DanTSX:
Originally Posted By 4v50:
Retired Olympic Shooter and San Francisco gunsmith Bob Chow specialized in tuning the 1911. When the Beretta was adopted he remarked that the 1911 was a gun that a GI could replace parts easily with just a screwdriver. The newer guns couldn't be fixed in the field. I sold my Beretta but never parted with a 1911.


If a GI could repair a 1911 with a screwdriver in the field, then why do 1911's need expensive tune-ups and modifications to be made reliable from gunsmiths like Bob Chow?

They don't. You don't even need a screw driver to do a detailed stripping. For example, the hammer strut is contoured to function as a sear/disconnector alignment tool. The sear tri spring (sear, grip safety and disconnector) can be used to remove all screws. The thumb safety can be used to drive the mainspring housing pin out.

Zero tools needed. About the only tools needed would be for sight, plunger tube and ejector replacement.

It is bullseye pistols which can be finicky. These are 50 yard, slow fire precision tools with 12 pound recoil springs. Not for hard ball ammo. Combat handguns are very reliable, only needing spring swaps after a few thousand rounds.



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To be fair, I'd rather shoot a 1911 over an M9 as well.
Link Posted: 3/29/2012 6:41:03 AM EDT


A slight product improvement...
Link Posted: 3/29/2012 6:46:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/29/2012 6:46:40 AM EDT by Clutch1911]
I love mine
Link Posted: 3/29/2012 6:49:43 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/29/2012 6:53:23 AM EDT
The twins!



Link Posted: 3/29/2012 6:56:32 AM EDT




aaaand a sorta-1911

Link Posted: 3/29/2012 7:15:34 AM EDT
All praise JMB and all that is holy in his name.
Link Posted: 3/29/2012 8:42:20 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Meta4:
The twins!

http://www.TWNCommunications.Net/Other/Kimber3.jpg



How much did those run?
Link Posted: 3/29/2012 8:47:38 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/29/2012 8:49:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 501st:

Post M1911 pictures



Link Posted: 3/29/2012 8:52:30 AM EDT
Originally Posted By FNC80:
All praise JMB and all that is holy in his name.


Amen
Link Posted: 3/29/2012 8:55:01 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/29/2012 8:55:24 AM EDT


How do you reconcile your fine choice in sidearms, with that atrocious caliber next to the name "Randy"?

Perhaps you had an epiphany, and underwent a profound change in your life.
Link Posted: 3/29/2012 8:57:29 AM EDT
Just a few more months till I'm back home in the states and I can play with mine again!

Link Posted: 3/29/2012 9:18:03 AM EDT
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