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Posted: 9/21/2005 9:21:24 AM EDT

You seem to like to do interesting things.

Sight in a couple handguns point of impact at, say 25 yards.

Then try shooting them with the same point of hold, but shoot them sideways, gangsta style.

Let me know what happens.

Just a thought.

Some time ago at a range, I say a couple of "Trained by Hollywood" gangsta types practicing sideways shooting and I'm curious.

Posted: 9/21/2005 9:22:34 AM EDT

[#1]

Try it yourself sometime! It sucks.

I say, let 'em shoot sideways- they can posture all they want, but they're not going to hit much...

Posted: 9/21/2005 9:24:51 AM EDT

[#2]

Quoted:
Try it yourself sometime! It sucks.

I say, let 'em shoot sideways- they can posture all they want, but they're not going to hit much...

I did, Same results as you.

(but I KNOW Old_Painless will truly do a meticulous first class job of it.)

Posted: 9/21/2005 9:29:33 AM EDT

[#3]

If you can see the sights, you can use them to hit your target. I had this demonstrated quite vividly this weekend when James Yeager, owner and Instructor of Tactical Response, showed that he could hit a target with a pistol no matter how it was oriented. This included 90 degree sideways cants, fully upside down, and even with him bending over and shooting between his legs.

Posted: 9/21/2005 9:32:24 AM EDT

[#4]

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, and even with him bending over and shooting between his legs.

Bet that hurt.

Posted: 9/21/2005 9:35:48 AM EDT

[#5]

Well, now that you mention it, that sounds pretty interesting.

I know that "canting" a rifle will move groups at long ranges.

But never tried it with a pistol at 25 yards.

I'll see what we get and report back.

Edited to ask: Should I also turn my hat sideways?

Posted: 9/21/2005 9:40:40 AM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:
Well, now that you mention it, that sounds pretty interesting.

I know that "canting" a rifle will move groups at long ranges.

But never tried it with a pistol at 25 yards.

I'll see what we get and report back.

Edited to ask: Should I also turn my hat sideways?

No, no hat, you gotta have the dew rag bandana.

Make sure you got a lot of bling

Posted: 9/21/2005 9:43:06 AM EDT

[#7]

Where's that "Homeboy Nite Sites" pic?

Posted: 9/21/2005 9:48:00 AM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Try it yourself sometime! It sucks.

I say, let 'em shoot sideways- they can posture all they want, but they're not going to hit much...

I did, Same results as you.

(but I KNOW Old_Painless will truly do a meticulous first class job of it.)

A couple of years ago my daughter asked if she could "experiment with shooting a pistol." Now I'm a bit leery about letting a 12 - 13 yr old do any kind of experiment with a pistol, but when we go to the range (public) we were the only ones there so I agreed. She tried the gansta' method. And hit what she was aiming(?) at! About 30' away.

A few days later I tried it.

Same results! I didn't have any problems hitting things at a resonable distance. But maybe I was still trying to sight down the top/side of the barrel, I don't know. This was with my Ruger MKll Govt. Target model and not something as bling as a 9.

Posted: 9/21/2005 9:50:34 AM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Try it yourself sometime! It sucks.

I say, let 'em shoot sideways- they can posture all they want, but they're not going to hit much...

I did, Same results as you.

(but I KNOW Old_Painless will truly do a meticulous first class job of it.)

A couple of years ago my daughter asked if she could "experiment with shooting a pistol." Now I'm a bit leery about letting a 12 - 13 yr old do any kind of experiment with a pistol, but when we go to the range (public) we were the only ones there so I agreed. She tried the gansta' method. And hit what she was aiming(?) at! About 30' away.

A few days later I tried it. Same results! I didn't have any problems hitting things at a resonable distance. But maybe I was still trying to sight down the top/side of the barrel, I don't know. This was with my Ruger MKll Govt. Target model and not something as bling as a 9.

You hit your target becaue the sights work! As long as the distance is short enough that bullet drop does not become a significant factor, the sights do not care care how you orient the gun.

Posted: 9/21/2005 9:51:36 AM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:
Well, now that you mention it, that sounds pretty interesting.

I know that "canting" a rifle will move groups at long ranges.

But never tried it with a pistol at 25 yards.

I'll see what we get and report back.

Edited to ask: Should I also turn my hat sideways?

O_P,

Are you heading to higher ground, or are you safe where you are?

HH

Posted: 9/21/2005 9:52:46 AM EDT

[#11]

I want to see car windshield tests.

9mm
40
357
45
223
308

but to really test it has to be a fresh windshield every time, and be backed but the frame of the car. So he needs 6 cars to test. I don't think he will get that donation.

Posted: 9/21/2005 9:53:28 AM EDT

[#12]

In order to ensure a representative experiment, you need to get a gold toof, bandana AND sideways hat, hyper-baggy jeans that hang WAY too low, and a bunch of gold chains and rings.

Gotta keep all the variables real, you know?

Posted: 9/21/2005 9:59:17 AM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
In order to ensure a representative experiment, you need to get a gold toof, bandana AND sideways hat, hyper-baggy jeans that hang WAY too low, and a bunch of gold chains and rings.

Gotta keep all the variables real, you know?

I'll answer for OP here:

You going to supply those? The brown truck of happiness passes by every day.

How'd I do?

Posted: 9/21/2005 10:11:41 AM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:
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<snip>

You hit your target becaue the sights work! As long as the distance is short enough that bullet drop does not become a significant factor, the sights do not care care how you orient the gun.

I tried not using the sights. But I can't be sure now that I wasn't "subconsciously" using them. Too used to using them.

I know I did try using them while holding the gun sideways and was hitting.

Posted: 9/21/2005 10:13:39 AM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
I want to see car windshield tests.

9mm
40
357
45
223
308

but to really test it has to be a fresh windshield every time, and be backed but the frame of the car. So he needs 6 cars to test. I don't think he will get that donation.

I've got a '68 Jeep Wagoneer I gotta get out of here. OP can have it. But I ain't gonna pay to get it to Texas, and I'm sure he isn't.

Posted: 9/21/2005 10:14:30 AM EDT

[#16]

IBTNS
(In Before The Nyte Sytes)

Posted: 9/21/2005 10:26:27 AM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:

O_P,

Are you heading to higher ground, or are you safe where you are?

HH

So far, they are advising evacuating Sabine Pass, but no other cities in Jefferson County. It looks like it will be landing west of us. If so, I'll just ride it out here.

But thanks for the concern.

Posted: 9/21/2005 10:28:28 AM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:
I want to see car windshield tests.

(snip)
but to really test it has to be a fresh windshield every time, and be backed but the frame of the car. So he needs 6 cars to test. I don't think he will get that donation.

As it happens, we are working on setting up a windshield test, as soon as the weather cools down a little.

We have already talked to a local windshield repair shop and they will "loan" us some windshields that are in good enough shape to shoot.

Stay tuned.

Posted: 9/21/2005 10:29:19 AM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:
In order to ensure a representative experiment, you need to get a gold toof, bandana AND sideways hat, hyper-baggy jeans that hang WAY too low, and a bunch of gold chains and rings.

Gotta keep all the variables real, you know?

Are you sure you want to see me in low-rider jeans?

Posted: 9/21/2005 10:32:08 AM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:
Quoted:
In order to ensure a representative experiment, you need to get a gold toof, bandana AND sideways hat, hyper-baggy jeans that hang WAY too low, and a bunch of gold chains and rings.

Gotta keep all the variables real, you know?

I'll answer for OP here:

You going to supply those? The brown truck of happiness passes by every day.

How'd I do?

How'd you like a job as Secretary O' Truth?

Posted: 9/21/2005 10:34:20 AM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:
Quoted:
In order to ensure a representative experiment, you need to get a gold toof, bandana AND sideways hat, hyper-baggy jeans that hang WAY too low, and a bunch of gold chains and rings.

Gotta keep all the variables real, you know?

Are you sure you want to see me in low-rider jeans?

Posted: 9/21/2005 10:45:41 AM EDT

[#22]

Edited to ask: Should I also turn my hat sideways?

No, but put your "tighty-whiteys" (or boxers) on sideways, and let your jeans fall down to your knees for added realism.

Posted: 9/21/2005 11:16:29 AM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:
Try it yourself sometime! It sucks.

I say, let 'em shoot sideways- they can posture all they want, but they're not going to hit much...

When I went down to Blackwater earlier this summer, one odf the instructors showed us how, when shooting with one hand, how to slighly can't the firearm inward. This is actually a more natural twist to your forearm bones. Now, not TOTALLY over to 90 degrees "gangsta style" but go halfway. You STILL have to use your sights, but the actual postition of the gun doesn't matter.

Hell, the BW instructor shot his Glock UPSIDE DOWN and hit 90% of the steel poppers!

Posted: 9/21/2005 11:18:18 AM EDT

[#24]

What a great idea. Hey O.P., when you write up your report, be sure to refer to your mags as clips. And always refer to your pistol as a gat, glock or 9mm, regardless of the make or model.

Posted: 9/21/2005 11:21:48 AM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:
Quoted:
I want to see car windshield tests.

(snip)
but to really test it has to be a fresh windshield every time, and be backed but the frame of the car. So he needs 6 cars to test. I don't think he will get that donation.

As it happens, we are working on setting up a windshield test, as soon as the weather cools down a little.

We have already talked to a local windshield repair shop and they will "loan" us some windshields that are in good enough shape to shoot.

Stay tuned.

Posted: 9/21/2005 11:24:17 AM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:
Quoted:
In order to ensure a representative experiment, you need to get a gold toof, bandana AND sideways hat, hyper-baggy jeans that hang WAY too low, and a bunch of gold chains and rings.

Gotta keep all the variables real, you know?

I'll answer for OP here:

You going to supply those? The brown truck of happiness passes by every day.

How'd I do?

I'm afraid I don't own any of the described items.

I have some class.

Posted: 9/21/2005 11:24:38 AM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:
What a great idea. Hey O.P., when you write up your report, be sure to refer to your mags as clips. And always refer to your pistol as a gat, glock or 9mm, regardless of the make or model.

I believe you meant "Nine".

Maybe I should consider using a .40 S&W, as I am the only one in the room edumacated enough to handle a faw-tah.

Yeah.

Posted: 9/21/2005 11:25:19 AM EDT

[#28]

Quoted:
Quoted:
In order to ensure a representative experiment, you need to get a gold toof, bandana AND sideways hat, hyper-baggy jeans that hang WAY too low, and a bunch of gold chains and rings.

Gotta keep all the variables real, you know?

Are you sure you want to see me in low-rider jeans?

I'm afraid to answer....

Posted: 9/21/2005 11:26:56 AM EDT

[#29]

Quoted:

I'm afraid I don't own any of the described items.

I have some class.

Yeah. Right.

I bet you have tassels hanging from your overhead upholstery and that the front end of your car can jump up and down.

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