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Posted: 12/17/2016 10:00:28 AM EST
Parts of the story as told always smacked of bullshit to me.

Why did it become so important all of a sudden to honor the man responsible for the biggest loss of civilian life in a single attack in our nation's history with a burial at sea? Did the country, or at least the survivors of 9/11, not deserve unequivocal proof that OBL was killed the way they said he was? Whose call was that and why was it a good idea?

They photo opped the fuck out of the president and his staff in the situation room but we can't even get a clear picture of OBL's body? Why? Was his head exploded? That hardly seems like a reason given all the other gruesome pics of dead terrorists, not to mention those of one of our own presidents. This man was THE terrorist, the main guy everyone wanted to see torn asunder, and yet so much cloak and dagger.

If you buy the official narrative or not, please persuade me as to your reasoning.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 10:02:22 AM EST
I have been surprised leaking the OBL death photos hasn't been the October surprise for the last two elections
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 10:15:18 AM EST
I've heard the SEALS pumped round after round into OBL's face and didn't leave much left to photograph.
But that's just a rumor out in internet land.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 10:19:57 AM EST
The truth is that we knew where he was for years and didn't want the population of the US to see Pakistan and the ISI as supporters of terrorism because we needed their cooperation in operations against Gulf State actors that are real bad dudes instead of tribal hillbillies. In exchange we did not publicly expose Pakistan's involvement in 9/11 and they kept Bin Laden hidden until we were at a point where him living did not matter anymore.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 10:21:08 AM EST
It sure smelled like bullshit.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 10:22:22 AM EST
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I'm hoping that the US Brass couldn't publish the picture of OBL's death because he had his own dick stuffed into his mouth. That or it had been freshly stuffed with a steaming navy seal bowel movement.

I would think that it was because each of the seals probably mag dumped the corpse for fallen friends killed searching for that POS.

I think the Islamic burial at sea was smart, to prevent a shrine of the martyr. I think the Islamic burial and care we took to bury him properly according to Islamic law was PC bs AND the fact that until the current POTUS leaves office, he can't admit he is a Muslim.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 10:24:59 AM EST
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Originally Posted By IceStationZebra:
I'm hoping that the US Brass couldn't publish the picture of OBL's death because he had his own dick stuffed into his mouth. That or it had been freshly stuffed with a steaming navy seal bowel movement.

I would think that it was because each of the seals probably mag dumped the corpse for fallen friends killed searching for that POS.

I think the Islamic burial at sea was smart, to prevent a shrine of the martyr. I think the Islamic burial and care we took to bury him properly according to Islamic law was PC bs AND the fact that until the current POTUS leaves office, he can't admit he is a Muslim.
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Fuck that, shrine of martyr would be like a deer feeder.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 10:55:35 AM EST
Pure BS IMO, I think he was dead for years. Zero needed to kill the boogeyman to look good...
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 10:57:44 AM EST
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Originally Posted By storminnorman:
Pure BS IMO, I think he was dead for years. Zero needed to kill the boogeyman to look good...<img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_noSmile.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Agreed.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 10:58:56 AM EST
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Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
It sure smelled like bullshit.
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Yep.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 11:01:59 AM EST
SEALs can't keep their mouths shut. If there was fuckery involved there would be 7 books and 3 movies about it already.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 11:02:03 AM EST
The Gov never tells the whole truth. No matter which party is in power. Anything and everything the public is allowed to see is theater. It's bread and circuses.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 11:02:35 AM EST
The more I learn about Obama and his team the more I think it was bullshit done for political reasons. Theater for the dumb masses.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 11:04:16 AM EST
Originally Posted By Fugger:

Why did it become so important all of a sudden to honor the man responsible for the biggest loss of civilian life in a single attack in our nation's history with a burial at sea? Did the country, or at least the survivors of 9/11, not deserve unequivocal proof that OBL was killed the way they said he was? Whose call was that and why was it a good idea?
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Because Obama cares more about the opinion of and cares about showing respect to muslims worldwide than he does of the average American.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 11:09:22 AM EST
I tended to believe the same thing. Why was the military so secretive about bin Laden's body? Why did they give his body a burial at sea? Why give his body the Muslim respect of special handling like they did? All of this sounded fishy. Then I saw the Navy Seal on TV that was credited with shooting bin Laden in the head. That was enough to convince me that bin Laden was killed. As for the other, ridiculousness - special "Muslim" handling of the body, burial at sea, hiding photos of the body from the public - all that sounds like Obama BS to protect the dignity of one of our worst enemies. That goes in line with Obama's affinity for our enemies at the expense of our own citizens lives and welfare.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 11:15:57 AM EST
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It's bullshit; he's living in Miami beach. The SEAL operation wasn't a direct action it was an extraction that's why you've never seen photographs. He was our inside man sent in to create Al Qaeda for the purpose of toppling the Iranians, that backfired. He had to choice but to go along if he was to survive and bring back the intel he learned on Russian involvement in Islamic terrorism.

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Link Posted: 12/17/2016 11:17:07 AM EST
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Originally Posted By ScoutOut:



Because Obama cares more about the opinion of and cares about showing respect to muslims worldwide than he does of the average American.
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Exactly! And why has the Obama administration seemed to have given up the hunt for the probable true mastermind of the 9-11 attacks, Ayman Al-Zawahiri. The guy who took over as leader of Al-Qaeda and was probably the brains behind the 9-11 attacks. Remember the assassination of Egyptian president Anwar Sadat? Al-Zawahiri was the mastermind and the leader of the group that murdered him. Somehow the Egyptians released him and he teams up with bin Laden as his #2 man in Al-Qaeda. Bin-Laden was the money man and Al-Zawahiri was the brains. It's funny how the Obama administration doesn't seem to care about Al-Zawahiri, who arguably is more radical and dangerous than bin Laden ever was. I'm guessing they haven't committed another big attack because bin-Laden's money source dried up after 9-11.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 11:21:26 AM EST
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Originally Posted By jerrwhy01:
It's bullshit; he's living in Miami beach. The SEAL operation was a direct action it was an extraction that's why you've never seen photographs. He was our inside man sent in to create Al Qaeda for the purpose of toppling the Iranians, that backfired. He had to choice but to go along if he was to survive and bring back the intel he learned on Russian involvement in Islamic terrorism.

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So, you're saying the two Navy Seals that publicly stated that bin Laden was killed by their team are liars?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_J._O'Neill_(U.S._Navy_SEAL)
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 11:24:09 AM EST
In.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 11:33:51 AM EST
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I believe the SEAL's killed a man they were breifed was Bin Laden, but I'm betting he was a mole. We had captured or killed most of OBL's command structure at that point and there were alot of newer commanders that wouldn't have ever met Bin Laden in person. Proxy control of terrorists in Pakistan could have been a powerful tool for keeping Pakistan in the fold as they were threatening to back out of coalition support of convoys to Afghanistan, at the time.

I know it's far fetched but why all the fuckery surrounding his ID and proof of death? There's also all those weird Bin Laden videos that are obviously not the same person.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 11:37:23 AM EST
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Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
It sure smelled like bullshit.
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It was a wag the dog misdirection for the shitstorm that was brewing over the release of Obama's fake birth certificate.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 11:49:27 AM EST
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Originally Posted By tsg68:


I know it's far fetched but why all the fuckery surrounding his ID and proof of death? There's also all those weird Bin Laden videos that are obviously not the same person.
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NO SHIT!! The whole thing is so shady, so bogus.... making up "muslim traditions" about burial at sea out of whole cloth.... what a sad joke, so few people probably even KNOW the actual truth.... and a lot of them probably died the same day on a certain Chinook
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 12:05:00 PM EST
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Originally Posted By tsg68:
I believe the SEAL's killed a man they were breifed was Bin Laden, but I'm betting he was a mole. We had captured or killed most of OBL's command structure at that point and there were alot of newer commanders that wouldn't have ever met Bin Laden in person. Proxy control of terrorists in Pakistan could have been a powerful tool for keeping Pakistan in the fold as they were threatening to back out of coalition support of convoys to Afghanistan, at the time.

I know it's far fetched but why all the fuckery surrounding his ID and proof of death? There's also all those weird Bin Laden videos that are obviously not the same person.
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The SEAL visually identified the man as bin-Laden. You didn't need a briefing to visually identify bin-Laden. Most everyone with a TV could visually identify bin-Laden on sight after the many pictures were posted of him and him being one of the most wanted fugitives in the world with a $25 million bounty on his head. No briefing needed to identify him.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 12:33:14 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Tim_the_enchanter:
The Gov never tells the whole truth. No matter which party is in power. Anything and everything the public is allowed to see is theater. It's bread and circuses.
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Wise, you are.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 12:37:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By adam_p:



Fuck that, shrine of martyr would be like a deer feeder.
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Originally Posted By IceStationZebra:
I'm hoping that the US Brass couldn't publish the picture of OBL's death because he had his own dick stuffed into his mouth. That or it had been freshly stuffed with a steaming navy seal bowel movement.

I would think that it was because each of the seals probably mag dumped the corpse for fallen friends killed searching for that POS.

I think the Islamic burial at sea was smart, to prevent a shrine of the martyr. I think the Islamic burial and care we took to bury him properly according to Islamic law was PC bs AND the fact that until the current POTUS leaves office, he can't admit he is a Muslim.



Fuck that, shrine of martyr would be like a deer feeder.

I'm pretty sure that's why they dumped his body ignominiously in the ocean.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 12:43:01 PM EST
The Pakis had him under house arrest and Obama needed a photo op. His body was prolly given back to his powerful family in secret.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 1:10:20 PM EST
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Originally Posted By INV136:



So, you're saying the two Navy Seals that publicly stated that bin Laden was killed by their team are liars?<img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_shy.gif border=0 align=middle>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_J._O'Neill_(U.S._Navy_SEAL)
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What would happen to the seals if they disobeyed a direct order to say their team killed bin laden?
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 1:50:13 PM EST
It would have been the ultimate dick move by W to have OBL wacked just as Obama was being sworn in so that the news stations break away from the inauguration ceremony.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 1:51:20 PM EST
OBL is still alive kept as a prisoner in the wookie's sex dungeon.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 1:57:25 PM EST
I was just thinking about this the other day. With all the fake news propaganda by the left, I wonder if the whole thing isn't made up and he was already dead due to health or drone strike. The media sure got on board quick and had some Hollywood feel to it.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 2:06:35 PM EST
Didn't the story change at first? I could have swore he got droned and evidence confirmed that he died. But, a few hours later it changed to a navy seal raid.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 2:08:53 PM EST
I've always wanted to see video of the Seal Team pushing his wig back, The official story always seemed like bullshit to me which doesn't surprise me with Hillary Clinton being involved. 

Obummer's speech on the matter pissed me off too "I don't want to spike the football because it might incite another attack" but Hollywood can make movies about it and according to them Bengazi was on account of a film strip wasn't it????

I'm hoping possible footage and pics will eventually be released for public viewing. 
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 2:09:19 PM EST
Since Obama was involved, I can't believe it.

Everything the man does and says is pure bullshit.

If his shit was liquor, it'd be 200 proof. It's that pure.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 2:12:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By GreenBastard:
Since Obama was involved, I can't believe it.

Everything the man does and says is pure bullshit.

If his shit was liquor, it'd be 200 proof. It's that pure.
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You'd go blind instantly from his liquor and on the label it would say "Nothing to see here" 
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 2:13:49 PM EST
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Originally Posted By vanvideo:
I've heard the SEALS pumped round after round into OBL's face and didn't leave much left to photograph.
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That one actually seems logical. Are there any of us here that wouldn't have loved to do a mag dump on him? Theres plenty of WTF in the whole thing, but that part actually passes the smell test
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 2:18:01 PM EST
obl used to put out propaganda videos every few months. We never saw another one after the bombing campaign in Tora Bora.

TEN years later, obongo realizes this goat fucking caveman is NOT going to resurface, so we make up a story, and provide no evidence.
Then kill the team in a chopper crash , to keep the secret.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 2:18:21 PM EST
If he had died previously, I have no doubt that AQAP would have said/proved so in order to discredit and embarrass the US.

Plus, no way all the SEALs and everyone else involved could keep such a huge conspiracy under wraps. I still like to think he's in a hole somewhere getting tortured though.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 2:21:37 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Shenanigunz:
SEALs can't keep their mouths shut. If there was fuckery involved there would be 7 books and 3 movies about it already.
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Cept when they grenade a hostage they're trying to rescue.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 2:24:56 PM EST
His burial at sea should have been down the garbage grinder in the scullery (the dish washing room) and turned into chum. 
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 2:26:21 PM EST
I remember being so excited that this happened and was waiting for pictures and videos to be released. I find it odd that we saw so much of Saddam and Quadaffi's deaths but absolutely nothing on UBL.  
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Originally Posted By Sturmgeist:
Didn't the story change at first? I could have swore he got droned and evidence confirmed that he died. But, a few hours later it changed to a navy seal raid.
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Yep.

The original story was that he was killed a week earlier by a US bomb and that they were waiting on DNA tests to come back positive before going public. It was stated that it takes that long for the tests to be done.



Then, on the same day, they said they "got him" the night before. And magically the DNA tests were conducted in a matter of hours.



Link Posted: 12/17/2016 2:30:10 PM EST
I know and have talked to Rob.  I believe him.  If it's all BS, that's some next-level commitment to the lie.  
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 2:34:31 PM EST
I had a friend who died two years ago. A Navy JAG, Georgetown law school graduate, Yale, worked for a top NYC firm... He spent the last 40 years of his life trying to prove JFK was assassinated by someone other than Oswald. Oswald was a patsy and the real killer was in a building just behind and to the left of the school book depository.

Kept the research secret because he thought the CIA would kill him too.

He wasted his time, money, and energy. Wasted everything. Whole life amounted to nothing.

Be careful about elaborating the narrative.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 2:35:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Rem700PSS:
I know and have talked to Rob.  I believe him.  If it's all BS, that's some next-level commitment to the lie.  
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Did he get the 25 million $ ? Cause I could lie like a fucking rug for that.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 2:40:38 PM EST
Honor?  WTF are you talking about?
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 2:50:36 PM EST
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double
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 2:55:17 PM EST
I don't trust anything coming out of that administration, so they are always lying unless I see proof. Until i see proof they never got him as far as I'm concerned.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 3:01:21 PM EST
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double.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 3:02:19 PM EST
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double
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 3:02:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By AKengineer:
The truth is that we knew where he was for years and didn't want the population of the US to see Pakistan and the ISI as supporters of terrorism because we needed their cooperation in operations against Gulf State actors that are real bad dudes instead of tribal hillbillies. In exchange we did not publicly expose Pakistan's involvement in 9/11 and they kept Bin Laden hidden until we were at a point where him living did not matter anymore.
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This makes no sense. Please explain so a dumbass like me can understand.
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