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Posted: 9/23/2004 9:49:20 PM EST
I was looking through the SWFA Catolog and saw the NV products.And said Hey i wanna get some binoculars or Monoculars in NV. IS ATN Pretty good?

Im willing to spend 500 Max on some Binocs or minocs..SUggestions?
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 10:10:51 PM EST
my only experience with ATN was with a daylight scope, and it broke the first time I used it. so I dont exactly trust them.
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 10:14:17 PM EST

Im willing to spend 500 Max on some Binocs or minocs.. . SUggestions?



Yes........Save more money and get something worth having. $1500 will get you some 7Bs if you shop hard enough.

Trust me...
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 10:29:34 PM EST
Don't waste our money on anything Gen1. It will have significant lens distortion, will have low resolution, and doesn't amplify light well at all. Tube life is pathetic.

Gen 2 is MUCH better.

Recommend something in a low-grade Gen3. You should be able to get a good used set of PVS-7B's for about $1500. NOGO on ATN. Go with mil-spec.

Anything less is just a gimmick.
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 1:50:15 AM EST
ANyone have a link for Mil spec NV?
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 1:54:13 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/24/2004 1:55:31 AM EST by osprey21]
www.usnightvision.com/

When it comes to seeing in the dark, you really do get what you pay for.
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 2:03:47 AM EST
If $500 is all you are willing to spend, take my advice and just don't waste your money. You can't get anything even remotely decent for $500. Those cheap NVD's are worthless. I'd much rather have a good flashlight. Really. I learned this the hard way back in 1999.
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 9:44:31 AM EST

Originally Posted By osprey21:
www.usnightvision.com/

When it comes to seeing in the dark, you really do get what you pay for.




Thnx
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 9:45:25 AM EST

Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:

If $500 is all you are willing to spend, take my advice and just don't waste your money. You can't get anything even remotely decent for $500. Those cheap NVD's are worthless. I'd much rather have a good flashlight.




+1
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 1:28:39 PM EST
Been there, done that... Wasted $400 on a pair of OH1x20's back in 1994, they just plain blew. heavy, horrible optics, uncomfortable, and they didn't work all that well. I guess you would be better off having them than nothing else if you *HAD* to move in the dark, but I put maybe 1 hour on them in the 6 or 7 years I had them and broomed them for half what I paid.

Fast forward to 2 months ago, saved up some $$ and bought a used pair of PVS7's for $1400, I'm very happy with them. They aren't perfect, but they flat-ass WORK! I didn't luck out and get a high-zoot model, a middle of the road resolution tube with spot specs are what I ended up with. Doesn't remotely affect their performance.

I don't mean to come off as snobby, but NVG taught me that if you buy cheap, you'll buy twice. If you have a legitimate need for goggles that work all the time, buy some that do.

Have Fun!

Dave
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 1:34:44 PM EST
I would think $2500 is the min you want to spend.
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 3:26:15 PM EST
I found that gen 1 tubes are not repairable. I have a $700 reminder that you get what you pay for. Mine sat atop my ar with a .22 conversion. Real sweet, till it quit.
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 4:00:11 PM EST
Calm down.

The urge to buy nvg will pass...
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 5:13:05 PM EST

Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
Calm down.

The urge to buy nvg will pass...



LoL We will see
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 5:16:46 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/24/2004 5:25:56 PM EST by LARRYG]
Along this line, is there an NV device that fits on a normal scope. It seems that I have seen devices that sit on top of the regular scope and a CRT or something similar fits over the objective.

Was the daylight scope made specifically for that application or would something like that work on any scope as long as the objective size matches up?

OR, could you use a regular scope and NV monocular for night shooting? Just asking.
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 5:28:06 PM EST
If your budget is only $500 go here for some top of the line setups. They have some excellent "see in the dark" systems that are pretty much unparalleled. I have a couple of thier products and I'm very happy with them, as are most other people on this board.
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