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Posted: 9/20/2009 6:19:14 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/20/2009 6:20:36 PM EST by Schadenfreuda]
We all know the bills that congress is trying to pass through to the senate. Most of these bills are highly anti-American or Unconstitutional in nature.

This thread is not about healthcare, it's about Republicans or Conservatives that SHOULD be trying to author bills that aim to shoot-down all of the crap that is going on.

Yes, I know absolutely that any bill offered by the right will be shot down in Congress...but actually passing such bills is not the objective. (Though it should be)

Democratic negative reaction and dismay are the objective. Negative reaction and dismay to pro-American bills that the MSM might try to cover...

Could you imagine the [possible] uproar that would ensue, should the MSM cover any of the following bills being introduced by the Right?


1) A bill to enact a flat tax of 10%, and dissolvement of all other taxes.
2) A bill to halt all borrowing against the wealth of future generations.
3) A bill to free-up all commerce with friendly nations.
4) A bill to reduce the time period it takes to let people become naturalized citizens.
5) A bill to return to the gold standard.
6) A bill to declare that monetizing the debt is a form of counterfeiting.
7) A bill to hire people in remote areas to open one-man post offices.
8) A bill to declare that "fine art" subjective art is not a useful art in regards to the Government, and a bill to abolish the NEA.
9) A bill to make execution mandatory for piracy.
10) A bill to end the war in the Middle East.
11) A bill to ban any "new" military groups, like the one that Obama proposed involving an armed, civilian military.
12) A bill to group the Marines with the Navy and the Army with the Air Force....Don't flame me, it's an enumerated power. I needed something here.
13) A bill that offers free weapons training to ANY American who is legally capable of owning a Handgun...and letting them buy NEW class-3 upon completion of the training.
14) A bill that allows free, unencumbered secession of any state that no longer wishes to be part of big government.
15) A bill that makes it treason to suggest that the Constitution was flawed or needs to be changed for modern interpretation.
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 6:21:17 PM EST
Bad examples. Your premise makes sense, but bad examples.

IN.
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 6:22:15 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/20/2009 6:27:26 PM EST by Schadenfreuda]
Originally Posted By CouncilOfDave:
Bad examples. Your premise makes sense, but bad examples.

IN.


My examples were quick ideas, but I'm glad you see what I'm trying to say.

ETA: Just imagine if one DECENT Senator were to author a bill that said National Healthcare was Unconstitutional, and a right of the state...

Basically, these bills would be arguments to the SCOTUS...and allow the senator(s) to get the message out.

Do you think that the healthcare bill would gain much traction if there was a bill that reaffirms states rights?

Or do you think that there will be a Cap and Trade bill if there was a bill offered that reaffirms that we need to drill for oil here? ...and in the process throws some serious doubt on "science" of "Climate Change"...maybe even throw something in there that makes it a crime for anyone trying to profit off of a system that is trying to reverse such "climate change"
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 6:22:50 PM EST
erm because the dems control everything?
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 6:25:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/20/2009 6:25:52 PM EST by ScrapHeap]
Originally Posted By Silence:
erm because the dems control everything?


And the so called right wingers are RINOs? Pseudo-Democrats!
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 6:25:20 PM EST
I'm just a bill.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEJL2Uuv-oQ
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 6:26:16 PM EST
I agree with a few of those but not all.
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 6:27:20 PM EST
Harry Reid decides which bills get to be voted on.

Harry Reid is a fucking douchebag democrat/socialist.

Therefore, no bills even approaching what would be Pro-America will ever see the light to be voted on.

Link Posted: 9/20/2009 6:28:40 PM EST
Originally Posted By LIINTLICKR:
Harry Reid decides which bills get to be voted on.

Harry Reid is a fucking douchebag democrat/socialist.

Therefore, no bills even approaching what would be Pro-America will ever see the light to be voted on.



Harry only decides the Senate side...Pelosi Controls the house...but it does not matter.

Just get a decent senator to make his bill public, and let the people get decide.
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 6:30:09 PM EST
Originally Posted By Silence:
erm because the dems control everything?


They do not control whether a non-rino senator can author the bill...They SHOULD be making bills everyday. Simple, pro-American bills that get a little bit of media. Not worried about getting the votes.
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 6:31:27 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/20/2009 6:37:28 PM EST by Schadenfreuda]
Originally Posted By TheTracker:
I agree with a few of those but not all.


I don't know if I agree with any of them myself...They were just quick, possible scenarios taken directly from the enumerated powers...you know, the ONLY enumerated powers that congress has.

Originally Posted By ScrapHeap:
Originally Posted By Silence:
erm because the dems control everything?


And the so called right wingers are RINOs? Pseudo-Democrats!


This would allow us to weed-out the useless republican rinos at the same time.

No Pro-American Bill authored in the next 3 years...no vote to re-elect.

Originally Posted By fuzzywuzzy:
Holy Christ......we don't have enough already?????


Oh yeah, we have enough...These bills by "real" Republicans would be "rail-road" bills...designed to inject some REAL ideas of how to make this country great again, and to show that democrats really do not want to have a great country.

You could even use the scenario to SHOW that we are TRULY not being represented in government.

Originally Posted By Dragracer:
Who exactly are you calling "right wing" in Washington?


OMG...there HAS to be at least one! No? How about Joe Wilson? Hell, I'd even accept one from Joe Liebermann.
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 6:32:39 PM EST
Holy Christ......we don't have enough already?????
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 6:33:56 PM EST
Who exactly are you calling "right wing" in Washington?
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 6:36:17 PM EST
A MUCH BETTER QUESTION is why do they FAIL to REPEAL bad laws after they get elected????
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 6:38:19 PM EST
Harry Reid is a fucking douchebag democrat/socialist.


Pretty soon, he'll be irrelevant...think Tom Daschle.



HH
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 6:47:15 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/20/2009 6:47:47 PM EST by stormwalker]
they do offer alternative bills.

but there is a process, first it has to go to committee, and it has to be "approved" or put up for preliminary vote by the speaker of the house.

guess who that is....

so no "alternative" bills ever make it out of committee. and thus they never make it to the house floor for a vote.

and I think all bills get voted on in the house first, then the senate if they pass the house vote.

Link Posted: 9/20/2009 6:50:13 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/20/2009 6:51:51 PM EST by Seraph]
Yep, I'm sure that the Democrats would love it, now that Obungo's Marxist regime is in deep shit, if we would shift our focus to creating a schism within the GOP, by sorting the hardliners from the RINO's with extreme prejudice, and to moot attempts at forwarding legislation that's tailor-made to alienate moderates and independents. We should definitely shift our attention to this great plan, instead of exposing the Marxists to the attention of the sleeping fence-sitters.
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 6:50:56 PM EST
Originally Posted By stormwalker:
they do offer alternative bills.

but there is a process, first it has to go to committee, and it has to be "approved" or put up for preliminary vote by the speaker of the house.

guess who that is....

so no "alternative" bills ever make it out of committee. and thus they never make it to the house floor for a vote.

and I think all bills get voted on in the house first, then the senate if they pass the house vote.



Ok, thats maybe what I was unaware of...

Is there any way for the senators to get their bills to some of the media before they get shot-down by committee?
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 6:53:06 PM EST
Bills almost always originate in a commitee and must be approved in some form by a committee before
coming to Congress for consideration and vote. The current Dem leadership has a virtual stranglehold
on most committees and no bill, law or idea they don't agree with has much of a chance at seeing the light
of day in Congress.

Getting a bill out of committee and on to the floor can often be harder than getting it voted into law after it
comes out of committee.
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 6:54:25 PM EST
How do you know they aren't already? Tons and tons of crap gets pushed every cycle, and it goes to committee and dies there.
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 6:55:54 PM EST
Originally Posted By fuzzywuzzy:
Holy Christ......we don't have enough already?????


Winner! I'd rather see 4-6 years of Congress working to REPEAL stupid laws without proposing a single new one. Congress is at the point now where they have to justify their existence by creating more and more stupid laws. Our country stopped being "free" a long, long time ago.
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 6:57:49 PM EST
Speaker Pelosi controls the docket of the floor, so no minority bills are introduced to he House. Republican bills have to go through a committee, and they dei there, since the Democrats have majorities in the committees too.

Elections have severe consequences.
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 7:06:58 PM EST
Damn, freuden, we must be related, i was just talking to somebody about that today!!

Sure the Republicrats oppose anything the Democans try to pass, but they sure are not showing any leadership to the american people by not putting up any alternatives to the bills the Democans push.

The fact they do not put any of their own alternate proposals or bills bothers me more than the fact the Demoicans are proposing what they are.

Without putting up alternative bills what the hell do they have to run on next year? Nothing!! They just obstructionist who don't offer anything diffrent as far as the average voter next year thinks.
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 7:13:23 PM EST
Because bills, laws, congress and government aren't the solution?
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 7:14:17 PM EST
Bills that repeal unconstitutional laws are of no benefit to republicans in Congress.
The Constitution is of no concern to either party, except as a weapon.
Government has become a for profit enterprise, and when republicans control it again they will profit. They don't want to crap in their own nest.

Do not make the mistake of thinking that Congress, controlled by either party, will do the right thing when given the opportunity. History says otherwise.
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 7:37:52 PM EST

Originally Posted By thexrayboy:
Bills almost always originate in a commitee and must be approved in some form by a committee before
coming to Congress for consideration and vote. The current Dem leadership has a virtual stranglehold
on most committees and no bill, law or idea they don't agree with has much of a chance at seeing the light
of day in Congress.

Getting a bill out of committee and on to the floor can often be harder than getting it voted into law after it
comes out of committee.

Pretty much.
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 7:41:42 PM EST
The Corporations got a trillion from congress. Would you climb out of a bed full of teenage hookers and blow to give a political speech?
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 7:47:08 PM EST

Originally Posted By Da_Bunny:
The Corporations got a trillion from congress. Would you climb out of a bed full of teenage hookers and blow to give a political speech?

Lemme think about that for a .... come're cutie PIE.
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