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Posted: 9/8/2005 11:33:31 PM EDT
Question is: What?

I love the Glock's trigger. I've got prolly 2-3k rounds through it after five years of ownership. I basically love everything about the gun except for the unsupported chamber, the reports of KABOOMS and the fact that I can't reload for it.

I'm thinking ParaOrd LDA. Only thing about that handgun is that I'd have to use the Glock to rob five or nine banks to get enough money to buy one.

Requirements: .40 or larger cal, hi-cap, same trigger stroke or a light DA (I LUUUVE that Daewoo Tri Action, it's the shizzle), mega reliable, fully supported chamber.

Oh, accurate, too. I don't want to go too much past $600, either.

Flame away!
Link Posted: 9/8/2005 11:36:31 PM EDT

Sig... once you go Sig you will view that Glock with the contempt it deserves.
Link Posted: 9/8/2005 11:38:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:
Sig... once you go Sig you will view that Glock with the contempt it deserves.



+1

I'm an SA guy, but barring an external safety lever, the SIG P229 DAK is the way I'd go.
Link Posted: 9/8/2005 11:40:30 PM EDT
What about blowing $180 on a Barsto or KKM fully supported and conventionally rifled barrel?

That wipes out the reloading and unsupported chamber issues that you listed for the glock.

Link Posted: 9/8/2005 11:41:15 PM EDT
Why do so many glocks go kaboom
"?
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 12:22:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BigB1129:
Why do so many glocks go kaboom
"?



Happens because people can't resist the urge to light that fuse.



If you don't light the fuse they don't blow up, that simple.

Hell I don't even know why Glock puts that fuse there in the first place. They should know people are gonna light it sooner or later.
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 12:25:12 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:

Originally Posted By BigB1129:
Why do so many glocks go kaboom
"?



Happens because people can't resist the urge to light that fuse.

i4.photobucket.com/albums/y145/SteyrAUG/P1003009.jpg

If you don't light the fuse they don't blow up, that simple.

Hell I don't even know why Glock puts that fuse there in the first place. They should know people are gonna light it sooner or later.





Heh Did your wife get up and kick your ass yet, for burning shit in the middle of the night ?
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 1:15:23 AM EDT
Big +1 for anything Sig in particular Sig P220.
on a budget? Check out the CZ 75 Family or the EAA Witness line of Pistols (they are CZ clones)

Sgt Bingham
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 10:37:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/9/2005 10:40:18 PM EDT by samsong]

Originally Posted By 45BArmorer:
Big +1 for anything Sig in particular Sig P220.
on a budget? Check out the CZ 75 Family or the EAA Witness line of Pistols (they are CZ clones)

Sgt Bingham



Funny, funny, funny you should say that.

Look what Koko the Sales Gorilla did today:




Glock 23 got traded plus $150. Finally, I have steel in my paw, and a proper double-strike capability, plus Radium sights in case the Goblins decide they want to break into Casa Del Samsong after dark.

God, I love CZ! Two of the three handguns (which we all know are useful as tools to get you to your AR) I own are CZs.
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 10:39:45 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 10:44:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By David_Hineline:
Why can't you reload for your Glock?



Because the Glock's eminent reliability has been created by Glock radiusing the bottom portion of the chamber/ramp so as to ease feeding issues. They NEVER malf - they're super reliable guns, but in a case that's high pressue anyway (.40 cal is right up at SAAMI limits), to have an unsupported chamber is begging to have brittle brass shit the bed at the worst possible moment.
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 10:45:22 PM EDT
I would even look to the Springfield XD series if you like the Glock trigger... Pang1179 has one and it WAY exceeded my expectations... nice handgun.
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 10:49:40 PM EDT
Just buy an after market barrel for it! Then you can shoot lead and reload and have a supported chamber. Or trade it in for a glock 20.
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 10:54:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By samsong:

Originally Posted By David_Hineline:
Why can't you reload for your Glock?



. They NEVER malf -



Never been to a range for police qualifications have ya?
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 8:05:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Mr45auto:

Originally Posted By samsong:

Originally Posted By David_Hineline:
Why can't you reload for your Glock?



. They NEVER malf -



Never been to a range for police qualifications have ya?



Is that an operator error or a weapons error?

Mine malfed two times in 2k+ rounds. FTFs, probably from a mainspring that's failing.
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 8:12:10 PM EDT
Look in to XD's, they are amazing
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 8:14:57 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 8:19:31 PM EDT
Go a little bit more and get a high-quality 1911 in .45.

You will NEVER look back. If you insist on a more modern-style weapon, go Sig...there IS no other choice.

HH

Link Posted: 9/14/2005 8:36:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DigDug:
If you sell it, you will regret it.

Never sell a firearm. Ever. You will live to regret it. Always.



I was thinking about this when I traded the handgun in.

Why did I do it?

After some introspection, I realized that I'm a rifle guy. You can't have too many rifles, but handguns are generally good for last ditch defense efforts. I traded a broken-in Glock, which was fun, for a new Chech pistol, which is also fun...

but none of it will be utilized in the Worst Case Scenario, SHTF.

The Rifle stays King in the samsong household.
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 8:40:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/14/2005 8:41:01 PM EDT by steve-oh]
USP compact. - not a high cap but very cool nonetheless.
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 8:40:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/14/2005 8:41:16 PM EDT by MMcCall]

Originally Posted By DigDug:
If you sell it, you will regret it.

Never sell a firearm. Ever. You will live to regret it. Always.



Ah bullshit. Unless a gun has historical or personal significance, selling a firearm you can easily replace is hardly an issue of lifelong remorse.

It was a G23, for pete's sake.. there are thirty million more where that came from.
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 9:06:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DigDug:
If you sell it, you will regret it.

Never sell a firearm. Ever. You will live to regret it. Always.



I just don't believe that. I hear it all the time but I don't believe it.
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 9:09:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:
HK... once you go HK you will view that Glock with the contempt it deserves.



fixed for you...


Not that there is anything wrong with sigs at all.
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 9:11:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/14/2005 9:12:16 PM EDT by leelaw]
Ya know... you can get aftermarket barrels for Glocks that have fully supported chambers..

ETA: Go with a Sig, they are AWESOME!

Just.. maybe not the Sig Pro.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 6:37:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By steve-oh:
USP compact. - not a high cap but very cool nonetheless.



Steve-Oh! Come on! A cheapskate like me's gonna spend as much on a handgun as I would spend on a NICE ORF AK-74? Not in my lifetime.

I had an HK once. It felt weird, it was as big as a phone book, and I couldn't hit shit with it.

I like the HK91 copy I've got (JLD PTR-91), it's my best rifle. I'd bet that I'd like the USP's modern incarnation, too.

I just don't get the whole Sig/HK pricing deal. That CZ pistol's a blast, if a little heavy, but it feels like firm booby in the hand and looks like it shoots - slick, error-free, and fairly accurate.
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