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Posted: 9/8/2004 5:07:27 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/8/2004 5:07:50 AM EST by echap]
Oh man, I never seen this coming.

Echap


www.mlive.com/newsflash/michigan/index.ssf?/base/news-18/109459076535780.xml&storylist=newsmichigan
>
> State senator proposes Michigan extension of federal assault-weapons
> ban
>
> The Associated Press
> 9/7/2004, 4:52 p.m. ET
>
> LANSING, Mich. (AP) - State lawmakers said Tuesday they will introduce
> legislation to make sure assault-style weapons aren't sold, bought or
> manufactured in Michigan.
>
> Sen. Gilda Jacobs, D-Huntington Woods, said the bill would extend
> protections that are set to disappear next week when the 10-year-old
> federal assault-weapons ban is to expire.
>
> "These weapons are a threat to all Michigan citizens," Jacobs said. "If
> Congress fails to extend the ban, Michigan must take immediate action
> to protect our residents."
>
> In March, congressional Republicans voted down their gun-maker immunity
> bill after the Democrats won an amendment to extend the federal
> assault-weapons ban beyond its expiration. The provisions caused the
> National Rifle Association to withdraw its support for the bill, and
> Senate Republican leaders decided to kill it.
>
> The end of the ban would mean the gun industry could resume making,
> importing and selling 19 types of military-style semiautomatic weapons.
>
> Jacobs held a press conference Tuesday in Oak Park, where she was
> joined by Detroit Police Chief Ella Bully-Cummings, Rep. Bill McConico,
> D-Detroit, and victims of shootings involving assault weapons.
>
> Jacobs said more than 180 law enforcement officials statewide support
> continuing the ban. Ten other states have implemented bans or
> regulations on assault weapons, she said.
>
> Justice Department data shows the proportion of banned assault weapons
> traced to crimes has dropped by 65.8 percent since 1995. In 1995, the
> first year that the ban went into effect, assault weapons represented
> 3.57 percent of all crime guns recovered from crimes. By 2002, assault
> weapons represented only 1.22 percent of the number of guns used in
crimes.
>
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 5:13:30 AM EST
From 3.5% down to 1.2%?

Geez, talk about a non-issue in first place.
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 5:16:27 AM EST




Time to call these people at their homes and voice what our Constitutional rights are. No direct personal threats, just a call at their homes will do the trick to end this crap.

Link Posted: 9/8/2004 5:18:35 AM EST

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:
From 3.5% down to 1.2%?

Geez, talk about a non-issue in first place.



Actually the trace data is suspect to begin with. Not all traces done on weapons are for weapons related to (violent)crimes or even crimes period. Many are done to determine who they were stolen from as well so they can be returned to the proper owner. Even the BATFE said that the trace data is being misrepresented. AWs were used in less than 2%of crimes commited with firearms before the ban, and durring the ban that didn't change much, and after the ban is dead in a couple days it's not going to change much. Another thing is that they don't include in the data weather or not it was an illegaly converted to AW configuration gun.

Lots of BS from the antigunners but we already know that.
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 5:28:37 AM EST
Just when I was starting to miss MI.
Nobody got pissed when I took my FN-FAL huntinmg w/ a 5 rnd mag.

Someone should remind them that they are effectinig hunters, since that is what they believe the 2nd ammendment is all about.
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 5:30:01 AM EST
Sen. Gilda Jacobs is a known crazy anti-gun nut. How she keeps getting re-elected is beyond me.

BTW, don't call her office to complain, she will turn you in for making death threats against her. Seriously.

Years ago this nut job came out with some anti-gun legislation. Afterwards she publicly claimed that she started getting calls from "irrate gun owners" who made death threats against her, stalked her, and destroyed her personal property. They also supposedly stalked and harrassed her son. Yet no one was ever charged. What really happend is people called her office and chewed her out and showed up at her political rallies to question her on her stance.

Do the Republicans still hold the House and Senate in Michigan? If so then you don't have anything to worry about. If they don't, who knows what your Canadian born, Democrat, California educated, female Governor might be able to push through.

I hope you guys don't get screwed.
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 5:32:42 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 5:34:00 AM EST

Originally Posted By echap:
Oh man, I never seen this coming.

Echap


www.mlive.com/newsflash/michigan/index.ssf?/base/news-18/109459076535780.xml&storylist=newsmichigan
>
> State senator proposes Michigan extension of federal assault-weapons
> ban
>
> The Associated Press
> 9/7/2004, 4:52 p.m. ET
>
> LANSING, Mich. (AP) - State lawmakers said Tuesday they will introduce
> legislation to make sure assault-style weapons aren't sold, bought or
> manufactured in Michigan.
>
> Sen. Gilda Jacobs, D-Huntington Woods, said the bill would extend
> protections that are set to disappear next week when the 10-year-old
> federal assault-weapons ban is to expire.
>
> "These weapons are a threat to all Michigan citizens," Jacobs said. "If
> Congress fails to extend the ban, Michigan must take immediate action
> to protect our residents."
>
> In March, congressional Republicans voted down their gun-maker immunity
> bill after the Democrats won an amendment to extend the federal
> assault-weapons ban beyond its expiration. The provisions caused the
> National Rifle Association to withdraw its support for the bill, and
> Senate Republican leaders decided to kill it.
>
> The end of the ban would mean the gun industry could resume making,
> importing and selling 19 types of military-style semiautomatic weapons.
>
> Jacobs held a press conference Tuesday in Oak Park, where she was
> joined by Detroit Police Chief Ella Bully-Cummings, Rep. Bill McConico,
> D-Detroit, and victims of shootings involving assault weapons.
>
> Jacobs said more than 180 law enforcement officials statewide support
> continuing the ban. Ten other states have implemented bans or
> regulations on assault weapons, she said.
>
> Justice Department data shows the proportion of banned assault weapons
> traced to crimes has dropped by 65.8 percent since 1995. In 1995, the
> first year that the ban went into effect, assault weapons represented
> 3.57 percent of all crime guns recovered from crimes. By 2002, assault
> weapons represented only 1.22 percent of the number of guns used in
crimes.
>



More lies, there will still be no importation, Thanks to old man Bush
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 5:38:48 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/8/2004 5:40:42 AM EST by motown_steve]

Originally Posted By echap:
Oh man, I never seen this coming.



You should have! There was a thread about this a couple of months ago.

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=261140

I've written my state Reps and Senators once on this already. Time to let them have it again.

DAMN! DAMN! DAMN! DAMN! DAMN! DAMN! DAMN! DAMN! DAMN! DAMN! DAMN! DAMN! DAMN! DAMN!

Link Posted: 9/8/2004 5:51:16 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/8/2004 5:55:07 AM EST by motown_steve]
Here is a letter that I will be sending to my Representitives:

It has recently come to my attention that Representative Bill McConico and Senator Gilda Jacobs have announced their intentions to introduce legislation that would create an Assault Weapons Ban in the State of Michigan, when the 1994 Federal Assault Weapons Ban expires this September.

I am writing to inform you of my vehement opposition to any laws restricting the firearm ownership rights of law abiding citizens of the State of Michigan! Recent events show that although law abiding citizens in this nation are denied access to "assault weapons", criminals are still able to acquire these same weapons with ease!

As recently as a few months ago, in the city of Detroit, a man fired upon a house with an AK-47, killing 3 people and wounding one. This past weekend, we saw in the city of Detroit yet another tragic murder committed. This time a man killed 2 people, including a police cadet, and wounded one outside a bar using an AK-47. These acts are a testament to the ineffectiveness of the Assault Weapons Ban in stopping violence for 2 reasons:

1. The AK-47s that were used in these incidents were banned by the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban. Yet on two seperate occasions in this city, criminals were able to acquire AK-47s and use them to commit murder!

2. The person who committed the murders in the first incident was arrested in Minnesota, and found to have been a convicted felon! As you know, it is illegal under federal law for convicted felons to possess firearms.

The 1994 Assault Weapons Ban did nothing to prevent either of these tragedies! Although AK-47s are currently illegal, criminals still seem to have "assault weapons" readily available to them.

The only people who are effected by the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban are the law abiding citizens who are being denied the free excercise of the Second amendment rights, and their rights under the Michigan State Constitution. It is time to stop limiting the rights of law abiding citizens in an futile attempt to control the actions of criminals!

I thank you in advance for taking a stand against an Assault Weapons Ban in the State of Michigan, and I look forward to supporting you during your next campaign.

With Regards,

_____________________

To write your reps, here is the URL

www.michiganlegislature.org/mileg.asp?page=SponsorSearch
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 6:02:00 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/8/2004 6:24:56 AM EST by ebgb68]
Can someone list who we can contact. Email or phone numbers.
I have wrote Carl levin and Debbie Stabenow from my zip search. I know theres more to contact.
Found the links....
Representative
Senator
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 6:08:34 AM EST
It's all right.
Soon you'll be just like California if you guys keep electing these fucking idiots.
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 6:31:55 AM EST
Call from pay phones! (Don't use your calling card!)


Originally Posted By SWIRE:
Sen. Gilda Jacobs is a known crazy anti-gun nut. How she keeps getting re-elected is beyond me.

BTW, don't call her office to complain, she will turn you in for making death threats against her. Seriously.

Link Posted: 9/8/2004 7:29:46 AM EST
Everybody in unison, "Thank you Detroit!"
Just like the rest of the gun laws the other 90% of a peacefull state suffer due to the violence of the few.
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 8:42:53 AM EST
emails sent, does anyone know the specifics of this bill? Will there be grandfather clauses? forced registration? etc....? I am on the verge on buying a buncha stuff for monday but if MI turns AWB like cali i dont want to have all this stuff suddenly become illegal.
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