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Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin: Very impressive, but I'd still take Britney Spears from the same era. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin: Very impressive, but I'd still take Britney Spears from the same era. Britney Spears in her prime vs Jessica Simpson in her prime is a toughie. On physical appearance, I'd probably have to give the nod to Jessica Simpson, but a case could definitely be made for Britney. Now do "Britney Spears' little sister in her prime vs Jessica Simpson's little sister in her prime." ![]() |
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Originally Posted By USPguy: I never called her fat. I compared her to O'Donnell because she's the most repellant female I know. I've got non-posed pics of Swift that's not COC approved for GD. She is indeed smoking. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By USPguy: Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer: Nice airbrushed/photoshopped pic, but I have no idea how you saw “gawky baby giraffe” and got “she looks just like Rosie ‘where's my fucking food’ O'Donnell” from it. I didn’t see anyone in this thread call her fat because she’s not fat. At least not anymore. ![]() https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/86BAA64C-598A-4F7C-A930-66ECEEC22651_jpe-2965573.JPG I never called her fat. I compared her to O'Donnell because she's the most repellant female I know. I've got non-posed pics of Swift that's not COC approved for GD. She is indeed smoking. Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer: Yeah, if people like Swift's music, good for them. Its not to my taste, but I can see how some people would like it. What I don't get though is her army of simps (and there certainly are some on this site) that insist that her physical appearance is drop dead gorgeous. I have literally seen more attractive looking women working at Walmart and those women probably invested 10% as much time and 1% as much money in their hair and makeup as Swift does. ![]() |
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Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer: Britney Spears in her prime vs Jessica Simpson in her prime is a toughie. On physical appearance, I'd probably have to give the nod to Jessica Simpson, but a case could definitely be made for Britney. Now do "Britney Spears' little sister in her prime vs Jessica Simpson's little sister in her prime." ![]() View Quote Id say Simpsons 2-0 But yall can have them. Give me Christina from the Dirty video all day long ![]() |
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Originally Posted By Maverick52: We're 4 starts into Love's career and we're already saying he'll never win a SB? I mean it's statistically a long shot for any QB, but that just seems like an odd statement... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Maverick52: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By Rebel31: Wonder if Tae misses Rodgers yet. Taking some nasty hits in this game because of ball placement ![]() I think the way things turned out for Adams, Rodgers, Love and the Packers is going to turn out to be the worst of all possible outcomes for everyone. If Adams stays and the Pack draft help for him, they win another SB. As things stand, none of them are going to win another SB. We're 4 starts into Love's career and we're already saying he'll never win a SB? I mean it's statistically a long shot for any QB, but that just seems like an odd statement... I'm not saying Love isn't good enough, I just don't think the front office in GB is going to do what they need to do to get him there. |
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Originally Posted By akcaribouhunter: Scrape the ton of makeup off her and she is plain. She does not have a pretty face. View Quote I've seen makeup free photos and she's quite attractive (imo, and I'm not into extremely skinny girls) The difference is 90% of the people in the free world agree with me and not you. ETA: for me that person would be Cindy Crawford. She doesn't do it for me, but you'll never hear me say she's not attractive, as the vast majority of people do find her attractive. |
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Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: You're trying a bit too hard here. Just because she's lacking in curves doesn't mean she isn't very pretty. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer: Originally Posted By RTUtah: Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer: It reminds me of when Romo was dating Jessica Simpson and Carrie Underwood and they would annoyingly show them frequently throughout the games. But at least Jessica Simpson and Carrie Underwood, in their primes, were hot. They weren't a combination of a gawky baby giraffe and a little girl who got into her mother's makeup drawer. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/3C8747C6-9EA2-45AF-9DE6-87A7B5210FD5_jpe-2965446.JPG Accurate description is accurate. ![]() Yeah, if people like Swift's music, good for them. Its not to my taste, but I can see how some people would like it. What I don't get though is her army of simps (and there certainly are some on this site) that insist that her physical appearance is drop dead gorgeous. I have literally seen more attractive looking women working at Walmart and those women probably invested 10% as much time and 1% as much money in their hair and makeup as Swift does. You're trying a bit too hard here. Just because she's lacking in curves doesn't mean she isn't very pretty. You're right in that just because a woman lacks curves doesn't automatically mean she isn't very pretty. Of course, in order for such a woman to be "very pretty" (which to me is at least an 8/10) or better then she is going to have to have a truly beautiful face and Swift definitely does not have a truly beautiful face. |
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Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer: That’s rough. Cardinals +13 was my 2nd biggest “no-brainer” pick of the week (don’t tell zack_ ![]() View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer: Originally Posted By JThompson: I picked the cowboys in my survivor pool which is a straight pick. So more annoyed than usual with the results. ![]() That’s rough. Cardinals +13 was my 2nd biggest “no-brainer” pick of the week (don’t tell zack_ ![]() This is from PFF, so the usual disclaimers apply, but...
I think the real question is, how did the Dallas Cowboys defense give up 28 points to Joshua Dobbs and the Arizona Cardinals. |
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Lions D played a hell of a game yesterday.
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Originally Posted By akcaribouhunter: Scrape the ton of makeup off her and she is plain. She does not have a pretty face. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By akcaribouhunter: Originally Posted By Dino: Originally Posted By stoner01: She's not though. Average at best and she's got fame and fortune on her side. If she was average she would be a lot fatter. I get not liking skinny girls, but she's always had a very pretty face. There are plenty of attractive people who don't float my boat, but that doesn't mean they aren't attractive. She does not have a pretty face. What? You mean Napoleon Dynamite in drag doesn’t do it for you? ![]() ![]() |
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Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: Posted without context: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F64GnjVXoAAVwwi?format=jpg&name=large View Quote I have no idea what I'm supposed to be seeing here. |
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Let's start our Monday morning stats with a special Dolphins vs Broncos section...
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David_ESM: "Wait. So have you ever been cock bit by a goose?"
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Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin: I have no idea what I'm supposed to be seeing here. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin: Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: Posted without context: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F64GnjVXoAAVwwi?format=jpg&name=large I have no idea what I'm supposed to be seeing here. Sad horseys.
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Andy! ![]() I’ve never seen this from him. ETA:
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The Steelers plane made an emergency landing in KC early this morning. Apparently they were stuck in the plane for 10 hours before boarding a new flight. That had to suck.
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You guys think the jets trade for cousins ? That seems to be the buzz.
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Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy:
Andy! ![]() I've never seen this from him. ETA:
View Quote ![]() Anytime the league is embarrassed with officiating (like they were in the season opener) they jack up the enforcement to a rampant level. They did the same thing with the roughing the passer enforcement last season which became a huge joke and a mockery. In that play he is right on the fucking borderline of penalty or not penalty. He's a full helmet behind the guard who is already almost a full yard behind the center. He is the deepest lineman on the line, his ass is 3 yards off the LOS, and if he was moved out to the numbers as a WR he would 100% be considered lined up off the ball. Since they were told to enforce the penalty, they threw the flag. He KNOWS he is under scrutiny and the ref is watching him every play. If you don't want to get called for it, don't fucking line up in a questionable spot. The NFL wanted to make a point, now they have made it. Boo Hoo. Get fucking over it, line up right, and move on. Edit: I guess I should point out that neither Reid or Mahomes said Taylor WASN'T lined up wrong/committing a penalty. They both have just said the league should be throwing flags on the other tackles also mis-aligned. Which isn't wrong, but being the cause of the extra enforcement guarantees Taylor is going to be the most scrutinized. So don't give them something to throw the flag on. |
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Raiders' HC Josh McDaniels said that quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo is in concussion protocol.
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David_ESM: "Wait. So have you ever been cock bit by a goose?"
Kolat: "Yes" Cock biting update (8/12/10) Kolat: "Yes. More then once." |
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David_ESM: "Wait. So have you ever been cock bit by a goose?"
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Originally Posted By wookie1562: Myles Garrett probably exceeds Reggie White if he doesn't club a guy in the head and get suspended for a number of games. View Quote |
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Da fuk? Dude violated his probation, now failed to appear for his violation hearing. Just fucking forget you were due in court this week? Spend a couple bucks on a lawyer homey. $45M in career earnings thru this season. Money don't fix stupid. Edit: Probably a solid part of why he was a healthy scratch yesterday. Chargers fans drooling at the idea of getting out of his contract with this. |
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David_ESM: "Wait. So have you ever been cock bit by a goose?"
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Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: Posted without context: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F64GnjVXoAAVwwi?format=jpg&name=large View Quote With Kelce with TayTay and his new vaccine commercial airing, I could see memes coming to go with the #DiedSuddenly that was floating around for a while ![]() |
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Came back to a TS love/hate circle jerk????
Has anyone discussed the fact that the Packer's pulled a win from so far out of their ass its almost incomprehensible! ![]() |
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Originally Posted By David_ESM: Here's the illegal formation call that brought back the TD: https://i.imgur.com/oeAPd0X.jpeg Anytime the league is embarrassed with officiating (like they were in the season opener) they jack up the enforcement to a rampant level. They did the same thing with the roughing the passer enforcement last season which became a huge joke and a mockery. In that play he is right on the fucking borderline of penalty or not penalty. He's a full helmet behind the guard who is already almost a full yard behind the center. He is the deepest lineman on the line, his ass is 3 yards off the LOS, and if he was moved out to the numbers as a WR he would 100% be considered lined up off the ball. Since they were told to enforce the penalty, they threw the flag. He KNOWS he is under scrutiny and the ref is watching him every play. If you don't want to get called for it, don't fucking line up in a questionable spot. The NFL wanted to make a point, now they have made it. Boo Hoo. Get fucking over it, line up right, and move on. Edit: I guess I should point out that neither Reid or Mahomes said Taylor WASN'T lined up wrong/committing a penalty. They both have just said the league should be throwing flags on the other tackles also mis-aligned. Which isn't wrong, but being the cause of the extra enforcement guarantees Taylor is going to be the most scrutinized. So don't give them something to throw the flag on. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By David_ESM: Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy:
Andy! ![]() I've never seen this from him. ETA:
https://i.imgur.com/oeAPd0X.jpeg Anytime the league is embarrassed with officiating (like they were in the season opener) they jack up the enforcement to a rampant level. They did the same thing with the roughing the passer enforcement last season which became a huge joke and a mockery. In that play he is right on the fucking borderline of penalty or not penalty. He's a full helmet behind the guard who is already almost a full yard behind the center. He is the deepest lineman on the line, his ass is 3 yards off the LOS, and if he was moved out to the numbers as a WR he would 100% be considered lined up off the ball. Since they were told to enforce the penalty, they threw the flag. He KNOWS he is under scrutiny and the ref is watching him every play. If you don't want to get called for it, don't fucking line up in a questionable spot. The NFL wanted to make a point, now they have made it. Boo Hoo. Get fucking over it, line up right, and move on. Edit: I guess I should point out that neither Reid or Mahomes said Taylor WASN'T lined up wrong/committing a penalty. They both have just said the league should be throwing flags on the other tackles also mis-aligned. Which isn't wrong, but being the cause of the extra enforcement guarantees Taylor is going to be the most scrutinized. So don't give them something to throw the flag on. Here's a better view of Taylor: ![]() And here are a bunch of other guys: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() There are two big issues here. The first is that this isn't really a rule that impact the competitive balance of the game. If an OT is 6" further back from where he should be, that doesn't change much... until the flags fly. The second is, this is a rule that has gone and continues to go completely unenforced for every other OT in the league. The refs are blatantly targeting one player, and it's probably just because Collinsworth ran his mouth about it in the opener. |
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Originally Posted By TheHunstman: Came back to a TS love/hate circle jerk???? Has anyone discussed the fact that the Packer's pulled a win from so far out of their ass its almost incomprehensible! ![]() View Quote On one hand, Packers... Boo. On the other hand, I had to start Love as my FF QB due to Rodgers and Richardson both going down, and until the 4th quarter he only had like 3 fantasy points, so the surge at the end helped. |
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Kolat: "Yes" Cock biting update (8/12/10) Kolat: "Yes. More then once." |
From Charles Goldman:
"On Jawaan Taylor sitting out a series No, Jawaan Taylor did not get "benched" on Sunday. Andy Reid mentioned that he had a laceration on the inside of his mouth, but I'm told the team pulled Taylor intentionally. It wasn't just to sit him as they began to rest other starters in a blowout either. The team did so in order to have Prince Tega Wanogho align at a similar depth to see if the officials would call a penalty. Donovan Smith also set deeper than he did in the first half. Well, guess which players didn't get called for an illegal formation penalty? It's just more proof that Taylor is being treated unfairly by NFL officiating and it might explain why Reid and Patrick Mahomes had some choice words about it after the game." https://atozsports.com/kansas-city/kansas-city-chiefs-week-3-snaps-rashee-rice-justyn-ross-neil-farrell/#gid=ci02ca489f000025c6&pid=snaps-part-2 ![]() |
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Originally Posted By happycynic: No one looks good in the dump-squat position. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By happycynic: Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer: Nice airbrushed/photoshopped pic, but I have no idea how you saw "gawky baby giraffe" and got "she looks just like Rosie 'where's my fucking food' O'Donnell" from it. I didn't see anyone in this thread call her fat because she's not fat. At least not anymore. ![]() https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/86BAA64C-598A-4F7C-A930-66ECEEC22651_jpe-2965573.JPG ![]() |
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Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: This is a broken man:
(video at tweet) View Quote I saw that yesterday & I couldn't help but feel bad for him. It's like someone ran over his dog. |
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Originally Posted By JThompson: Am I the only one that thought Payton was going to do something decent with Denver this year and make significant improvements over last season? Being a Parcell's disciple, I expected more. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By JThompson: Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer: In watching the Broncos players fail: perhaps. In watching Sean Payton fail: https://y.yarn.co/39a25297-29a4-40e2-b28f-3a02cf52d741_text.gif Am I the only one that thought Payton was going to do something decent with Denver this year and make significant improvements over last season? Being a Parcell's disciple, I expected more. I've never had much faith in Payton. I know we do the Brady vs Belichick thing, but Brees vs Payton seems to be a conversation that should be playing out... |
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Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: Posted without context: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F64GnjVXoAAVwwi?format=jpg&name=large View Quote See, the NFL has to be scripted. Not team is that bad. Looks like a scene from one of those ridiculous football movies. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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![]() The Chiefs defense is basically getting an extended pre-season with all these dysfunctional opposing offenses coming through (Lions excluded). |
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Originally Posted By Maverick52: I know we do the Brady vs Belichick thing, but Brees vs Payton seems to be a conversation that should be playing out... View Quote Average ranking of the Saints defense (by points) during Brees career: 18th Average Defensive SRS (defense compared to 0.0 avg) during his career: -0.9 For comparison, Brady's Defensive SRS average with the Pats: 3.1 Rodgers average with the Packers: 0.7 Manning career (Colts + Broncos): 0.3 Brees is the only one of the 4 big same generation HOFers who had a negative average for his defenses. Meanwhile Brees averaged 37 attempts per game over his career. Manning 36, Brady 35, Rodgers 33. Brees was asked to do more, and was given less help on the other side. That has to be placed on the coach/GM. |
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David_ESM: "Wait. So have you ever been cock bit by a goose?"
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Most pressure thru 3 weeks (excluding MNF)
T1: Aidan Hutchinson (19) T1: Maxx Crosby (19) T1: TJ Watt (19) 4: Myles Garrett (18) 5: Micah Parson (17) |
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Originally Posted By David_ESM: Most pressure thru 3 weeks (excluding MNF) T1: Aidan Hutchinson (19) T1: Maxx Crosby (19) T1: TJ Watt (19) 4: Myles Garrett (18) 5: Micah Parson (17) View Quote Rashan Gary has been on a snap count, only playing 57 snaps (something like 27%) and generating 3.5 sacks, 7 pressures. |
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Originally Posted By Rebel31: An NFL team giving up 70 points is about as embarrassing of a performance on the field as it gets. View Quote I was at this game. It was fucking cold, and the whole stadium was chanting jerry, jerry. It was awesome. ![]() |
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https://media4.giphy.com/media/KFcFlJJn4a8zqhywMd/giphy.gif The Chiefs defense is basically getting an extended pre-season with all these dysfunctional opposing offenses coming through (Lions excluded). View Quote We're on day two of getting dumped on with what seems like incessant rain, so no work today. That has given me some time to watch a few clips on utube about the Jets and Wilson. Now, you guys all know me as a die-hard Patriots fan. Been so since 1984. I can name every single starter on their Super Bowl XX team, both offense and defense...from memory. I know the New England Patriots. This also means I have a familiarity with the other three teams in the division, from a fan's perspective. Having set the table up, I have to tell you I am starting to have pity on the New York Jets. For the last year or two, they've done everything right, or at least their approach to building a team is more or less exactly how I would have done it: getting the best coaching staff possible, building the best defense possible, assembling some legit potent talent on offense and then capping it off with landing the best QB available to dish the ball out to that talent. I'm Mr. Patriot and I'm sitting here, thinking, "I cannot find a single fault with their approach. They've just conducted a masterclass on team building...and four plays into the season...everything is completely undermined and they're back to absolutely sucking." I'm not kidding when I say I am beginning to feel sorry for the Jets and their fans. I pity them. |
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Originally Posted By Maverick52: I've never had much faith in Payton. I know we do the Brady vs Belichick thing, but Brees vs Payton seems to be a conversation that should be playing out... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Maverick52: Originally Posted By JThompson: Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer: In watching the Broncos players fail: perhaps. In watching Sean Payton fail: https://y.yarn.co/39a25297-29a4-40e2-b28f-3a02cf52d741_text.gif Am I the only one that thought Payton was going to do something decent with Denver this year and make significant improvements over last season? Being a Parcell's disciple, I expected more. I've never had much faith in Payton. I know we do the Brady vs Belichick thing, but Brees vs Payton seems to be a conversation that should be playing out... Kind of put him in place for calling last years team the worst coaching he's ever seen. Karma is a bitch. |
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I know this gets said every season but between Rodgers going down in the first game, the highest scoring game in the modern NFL era, and all the records that have been broken so far this year feels like the most wild so far.
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