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Posted: 8/31/2015 8:57:41 PM EDT
Rest of story at link. Incredible story...

The gunman was killed and the other three clowns plea bargained to 15 years in prison and eligible for parole in 7.5
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http://www.pe.com/articles/pesquera-778294-garcia-officer.html

Marcus Pesquera said he has been shooting Glock pistols in competition since he was old enough to hold one, starting around age 11.

Pesquera instinctively knew by the weight of his service-issued Glock when to reload and how to hit his target

But to others, what was remarkable was how Pesquera, now 23, at the time just 45 days out of the police academy, quickly gathered his wits.

Pesquera used his car and its tires as cover in a gun battle that lasted about two minutes. In the darkness, Pesquera aimed for the laser light on Alvarado’s AK-47. Pesquera had the wherewithal to turn off the light on his gun and use its night sight to see his attacker.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 9:03:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TheGrayMan:
Glock against AK, and he came out on top... Nice shooting.
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I thought there was no way to win if your opponent had a rifle and you had a handgun?

Good job the the officer.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 9:09:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TheGrayMan:
Glock against AK, and he came out on top... Nice shooting.
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No kidding.  I'm glad the other officer is recovering.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 9:21:16 PM EDT
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I thought there was no way to win if your opponent had a rifle and you had a handgun?

Good job the the officer.
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Originally Posted By JohnBurns:
Originally Posted By TheGrayMan:
Glock against AK, and he came out on top... Nice shooting.


I thought there was no way to win if your opponent had a rifle and you had a handgun?

Good job the the officer.


According to GD you don't, and should put down your weapon and curl up in the fetal position.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 9:24:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TheGrayMan:
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 Thank god it was low light conditions and he was able to key on the laser sight.  I guess much like tracers they work both ways.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 9:25:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By toothandnail:
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Congratulations on keeping the streak of sentences starting with "According to GD..." having never been worth reading.

Cal Ripken would be jealous of the consistency.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 9:27:45 PM EDT
I am really hoping that Ayoob does a piece on this in AH someday soon.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 9:29:34 PM EDT
It's not the dog in the fight, it's the fight in the dog.  Good job officer.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 9:29:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/31/2015 9:30:06 PM EDT by Ubar_Jay]
Something something you'll never rise to the occasion..

Good for him.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 9:31:27 PM EDT
Nice
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 9:38:36 PM EDT
Glad both officers are getting better, and a great job by the rookie...
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 9:43:05 PM EDT
Damn. I can't even imagine...
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 9:44:39 PM EDT
Good job. One less dirt bag.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 9:45:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WesJanson:
I am really hoping that Ayoob does a piece on this in AH someday soon.
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Great.

So the real story can be massively over dramatized.
Ayoob can somehow talk about when he was a "young maverick officer"
(referring to his days in a tiny little New Hampshire town with virtually no serious crime, where he was a RESERVE officer, but makes it sound like he did 30 years of full time police work)

Then Ayoob will continue with more self promotion BS and drama.

Yep, really looking forward to that.


Link Posted: 8/31/2015 9:46:23 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Tactical_Jew:
Rest of story at link. Incredible story...

The gunman was killed and the other three clowns plea bargained to 15 years in prison and eligible for parole in 7.5
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http://www.pe.com/articles/pesquera-778294-garcia-officer.html

Marcus Pesquera said he has been shooting Glock pistols in competition since he was old enough to hold one, starting around age 11.

Pesquera instinctively knew by the weight of his service-issued Glock when to reload and how to hit his target

But to others, what was remarkable was how Pesquera, now 23, at the time just 45 days out of the police academy, quickly gathered his wits.

Pesquera used his car and its tires as cover in a gun battle that lasted about two minutes. In the darkness, Pesquera aimed for the laser light on Alvarado’s AK-47. Pesquera had the wherewithal to turn off the light on his gun and use its night sight to see his attacker.
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The three other guys never fired a shot, hence the lesser charges.

I'm sure they're all scum but it's tough to get a conviction I imagine.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 9:53:16 PM EDT
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I thought there was no way to win if your opponent had a rifle and you had a handgun?

Good job the the officer.
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Originally Posted By JohnBurns:
Originally Posted By TheGrayMan:
Glock against AK, and he came out on top... Nice shooting.


I thought there was no way to win if your opponent had a rifle and you had a handgun?

Good job the the officer.


Ramon was wrong.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 9:56:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By toothandnail:


According to GD you don't, and should put down your weapon and curl up in the fetal position.
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Originally Posted By toothandnail:
Originally Posted By JohnBurns:
Originally Posted By TheGrayMan:
Glock against AK, and he came out on top... Nice shooting.


I thought there was no way to win if your opponent had a rifle and you had a handgun?

Good job the the officer.


According to GD you don't, and should put down your weapon and curl up in the fetal position.



It was a gun battle in which, Lt. Rich Lawhead said, “even a veteran officer would have been shaking in his boots. ... A veteran of seven, 10 years on the street sometimes would not have responded as quickly.”


From how the article puts it, competing in shooting sports at a young age keeps you from curling up in a fetal position or shaking in their boots.

Link Posted: 8/31/2015 9:56:48 PM EDT
AK with the beamz yo.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 9:59:27 PM EDT
Any videos of this encounter?  



Rock on Officer Pesquera.  Best wishes for a full recovery Officer Garcia.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 9:59:50 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By Sedona:


It's not the dog in the fight, it's the fight in the dog.  Good job officer.
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Put one through the CNS and it doesn't matter how big you are or how big your fight is.

 



Nice shooting by the officer.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 10:00:55 PM EDT
Good for him!!!
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 10:05:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Sedona:
It's not the dog in the fight, it's the fight in the dog.  Good job officer.
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I think in this case, it actually is the dog in the fight.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 10:10:57 PM EDT
Competition ftw!
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 10:16:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lost_River:


Great.

So the real story can be massively over dramatized.
Ayoob can somehow talk about when he was a "young maverick officer"
(referring to his days in a tiny little New Hampshire town with virtually no serious crime, where he was a RESERVE officer, but makes it sound like he did 30 years of full time police work)

Then Ayoob will continue with more self promotion BS and drama.

Yep, really looking forward to that.


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Originally Posted By Lost_River:
Originally Posted By WesJanson:
I am really hoping that Ayoob does a piece on this in AH someday soon.


Great.

So the real story can be massively over dramatized.
Ayoob can somehow talk about when he was a "young maverick officer"
(referring to his days in a tiny little New Hampshire town with virtually no serious crime, where he was a RESERVE officer, but makes it sound like he did 30 years of full time police work)

Then Ayoob will continue with more self promotion BS and drama.

Yep, really looking forward to that.




Nailed it.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 10:20:29 PM EDT
Scary situation. Good for him for prevailing.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 10:26:11 PM EDT
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One of the many reasons why visible lasers are not the best thing to use.

Good shooting on the officer's part.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 10:32:34 PM EDT
And his Glock did not blow up!! ( I own more than 1)
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 10:33:47 PM EDT
Awesome shooting
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 10:36:22 PM EDT
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According to GD you don't, and should put down your weapon and curl up in the fetal position.
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Originally Posted By toothandnail:
Originally Posted By JohnBurns:
Originally Posted By TheGrayMan:
Glock against AK, and he came out on top... Nice shooting.


I thought there was no way to win if your opponent had a rifle and you had a handgun?

Good job the the officer.


According to GD you don't, and should put down your weapon and curl up in the fetal position.

He should have just thrown his glock.  AK guy would've been pink mist.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 10:42:01 PM EDT
First off, the car tires are concealment not cover. Gunlights aren't meant to be left on all the time. Night sights don't illuminate an attacker. That story sucks on almost every level.
Glad the cop came out on top in such a lopsided fight!
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 11:13:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 2IDdoc:
First off, the car tires are concealment not cover. Gunlights aren't meant to be left on all the time. Night sights don't illuminate an attacker. That story sucks on almost every level.
Glad the cop came out on top in such a lopsided fight!
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the wheels on a car are absolutely cover.

Link Posted: 8/31/2015 11:17:37 PM EDT
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Competition will get you killed or.. not.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 11:43:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TheGrayMan:


+1

The wheels/axles are one of the better pieces of cover on a vehicle... probably second only to the engine.
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Originally Posted By Josh:
Originally Posted By 2IDdoc:
First off, the car tires are concealment not cover. Gunlights aren't meant to be left on all the time. Night sights don't illuminate an attacker. That story sucks on almost every level.
Glad the cop came out on top in such a lopsided fight!


the wheels on a car are absolutely cover.



+1

The wheels/axles are one of the better pieces of cover on a vehicle... probably second only to the engine.


Suppose to an AK one rim might not be the best but 2 rims, axle, frame, engine parts ect are. I think some people think tire and think it's a guy hiding behind a solitary tire/rim and forget that the entire car is in between them as well.

Of course if the bad guy goes all fucking urban prone then game over man, game over...
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 11:55:35 PM EDT
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Suppose to an AK one rim might not be the best but 2 rims, axle, frame, engine parts ect are. I think some people think tire and think it's a guy hiding behind a solitary tire/rim and forget that the entire car is in between them as well.

Of course if the bad guy goes all fucking urban prone then game over man, game over...
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Originally Posted By TheGrayMan:
Originally Posted By Josh:
Originally Posted By 2IDdoc:
First off, the car tires are concealment not cover. Gunlights aren't meant to be left on all the time. Night sights don't illuminate an attacker. That story sucks on almost every level.
Glad the cop came out on top in such a lopsided fight!


the wheels on a car are absolutely cover.



+1

The wheels/axles are one of the better pieces of cover on a vehicle... probably second only to the engine.


Suppose to an AK one rim might not be the best but 2 rims, axle, frame, engine parts ect are. I think some people think tire and think it's a guy hiding behind a solitary tire/rim and forget that the entire car is in between them as well.

Of course if the bad guy goes all fucking urban prone then game over man, game over...



Truth.

Our department put on a training using cars that were going to be junked. We shot from inside through the windshield and used various rounds to defeat the door panels/tires. The tires/rims were not easily penetrated.
Link Posted: 9/1/2015 12:08:52 AM EDT
this part had me





Jonathan Contreras, 20; Orlando Cruz, 24; and Gonzalo Medina, 22, all
of San Bernardino, who were with Alvarado, were charged with two counts
each of attempted murder on a peace officer and one count each of
possession of an assault rifle. Their bail was set at $1 million each.



The three men have pleaded not guilty to all charges. They remain in jail and are due back in court Friday for a hearing.


District Attorney Mike Ramos has acknowledged that the three men did
not fire any weapons but said they are culpable because they knew
Alvarado had an assault rifle.
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charging people with attempted murder and possession of an evil assault rifle just for knowing that the killer had an AK?  




Link Posted: 9/1/2015 12:17:21 AM EDT
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This.
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