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Posted: 8/31/2015 10:31:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/31/2015 11:11:15 AM EDT by OKSoda]
Wasn't going to post this cause of the new drama. but it'll be posted eventually anyway.

Peoria, Illinois -- A disturbing video from a viewer shows what appears to be a Peoria Police officer whipping and kicking his own police dog. The viewer, who wishes to remain anonymous, said it happened Saturday afternoon at 8831 W. Becker Lane in Peoria.
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http://www.wfmynews2.com/story/news/2015/08/30/officer-whips-kicks-k-9-video-police-investigating/71421232/

If dupe don't shoot.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 10:33:04 AM EDT
Now there's a stable, well-adjusted individual that should be responsible for enforcing the laws of the land!
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 10:34:47 AM EDT
That wasn't a stomp and he popped it with the lead.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 10:35:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/31/2015 10:36:07 AM EDT by Ltlabner]
This should go well.

I'm not sure I'd call that "whipping", "kicking" or "a puppy" but that said, I have zero idea what techniques are used with K9's for compliance/guidance/instruction/etc

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Originally Posted By DangerJ:
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Link Posted: 8/31/2015 10:39:35 AM EDT
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I watched the video.  I'm still waiting for the "kicking". "stomping", and "whipping".

A police working dog sure as hell isn't a "puppy" either.

We are becoming a nation of pussies.
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Originally Posted By familyman357:
I watched the video.  I'm still waiting for the "kicking". "stomping", and "whipping".

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I didn't make the title, just what the article says.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 10:43:46 AM EDT
I'm gonna have to go with "the lady doesn't know WTF she's talking about" and more than likely, that's what the trainers teach the officer to do when the animal is not performing properly. Looked to me like the "stomp" was actually the officer pushing the dog in the back or to the side with his foot. PETA bullshit smell is strong in this video.
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Originally Posted By OKSoda:


I didn't make the title, just what the article says.
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Originally Posted By OKSoda:
Originally Posted By familyman357:
I watched the video.  I'm still waiting for the "kicking". "stomping", and "whipping".



I didn't make the title, just what the article says.


I could probably find an article that says Nebraskans prefer sex with kangaroos.  That doesn't make it accurate and it doesn't mean that I should spread it to be sensationalist.  It's OK to use critical thinking skills.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 10:44:56 AM EDT
Didn't seem bad to me. But he might not their best option for a k9 officer.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 10:47:10 AM EDT
Assaulting a K9 is a federal crime is it not?
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 10:47:12 AM EDT
Drama.  He didn't whip him, he was trying to get his attention.  Not sure what the foot thing was, video wasn't clear.
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Originally Posted By DangerJ:
Now there's a stable, well-adjusted individual that should be responsible for enforcing the laws of the land!






That one officer clearly assaulted the other.
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Originally Posted By noFoTeeneR:
I'm gonna have to go with "the lady doesn't know WTF she's talking about" and more than likely, that's what the trainers teach the officer to do when the animal is not performing properly. Looked to me like the "stomp" was actually the officer pushing the dog in the back or to the side with his foot. PETA bullshit smell is strong in this video.
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I'll be the first one to cry foul if it's actual animal abuse.


That video didn't show actual animal abuse.
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Originally Posted By mototard:
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This.

The pop with the lead was just an attention getter, nowhere near a full strength whip.

Sometime dogs get a little hard headed and you have to remind them to pay attention.


Not seeing a problem here.
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What a bunch of drama queens. I hate when people get butt hurt about stupid shit. It distracts from serious cases.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 10:49:59 AM EDT
2 bans, 1 time-out, and a lock
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Originally Posted By sjdm4211:
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They appear to be local police, so no.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 10:52:24 AM EDT
I'm at about 'meh' on the wtf scale based on the disparity of what she describes and what's pixillated on the video.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 10:52:33 AM EDT
Not the right way to correct a training problem with a canine...
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Perhaps, but not abuse either.
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Originally Posted By familyman357:


I could probably find an article that says Nebraskans prefer sex with kangaroos.  That doesn't make it accurate and it doesn't mean that I should spread it to be sensationalist.  It's OK to use critical thinking skills.
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Originally Posted By OKSoda:
Originally Posted By familyman357:
I watched the video.  I'm still waiting for the "kicking". "stomping", and "whipping".



I didn't make the title, just what the article says.


I could probably find an article that says Nebraskans prefer sex with kangaroos.  That doesn't make it accurate and it doesn't mean that I should spread it to be sensationalist.  It's OK to use critical thinking skills.


Bitch to the news network.  I read the article same as if this appeared in the paper.  Video is blocked.  So how the fuck would I know?

Actually come up with a title and I'll change it.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 10:55:39 AM EDT
Isolated incident
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Originally Posted By OKSoda:


Bitch to the news network.  I read the article same as if this appeared in the paper.  Video is blocked.  So how the fuck would I know?

Actually come up with a title and I'll change it.
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Originally Posted By OKSoda:
Originally Posted By familyman357:
Originally Posted By OKSoda:
Originally Posted By familyman357:
I watched the video.  I'm still waiting for the "kicking". "stomping", and "whipping".



I didn't make the title, just what the article says.


I could probably find an article that says Nebraskans prefer sex with kangaroos.  That doesn't make it accurate and it doesn't mean that I should spread it to be sensationalist.  It's OK to use critical thinking skills.


Bitch to the news network.  I read the article same as if this appeared in the paper.  Video is blocked.  So how the fuck would I know?

Actually come up with a title and I'll change it.


You posted a sensationalist thread about a video that you didn't even watch?  WTF.  I would suggest a title change to "Mods, Please Delete".
Seriously, if you watch the video when you get home or something, you'll likely facepalm yourself.
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Perhaps, but not abuse either.
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Originally Posted By EasTexan:
Not the right way to correct a training problem with a canine...



Perhaps, but not abuse either.



Where did I say that?
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Where did I say that?
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Originally Posted By Hostile1:
Originally Posted By EasTexan:
Not the right way to correct a training problem with a canine...



Perhaps, but not abuse either.



Where did I say that?


Actually, you haven't said much of anything.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 11:02:27 AM EDT
That lady would probably be really upset when she learned what the collar on my dog does...
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You posted a sensationalist thread about a video that you didn't even watch?  WTF.  I would suggest a title change to "Mods, Please Delete".
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Originally Posted By OKSoda:
Originally Posted By familyman357:
Originally Posted By OKSoda:
Originally Posted By familyman357:
I watched the video.  I'm still waiting for the "kicking". "stomping", and "whipping".



I didn't make the title, just what the article says.


I could probably find an article that says Nebraskans prefer sex with kangaroos.  That doesn't make it accurate and it doesn't mean that I should spread it to be sensationalist.  It's OK to use critical thinking skills.


Bitch to the news network.  I read the article same as if this appeared in the paper.  Video is blocked.  So how the fuck would I know?

Actually come up with a title and I'll change it.


You posted a sensationalist thread about a video that you didn't even watch?  WTF.  I would suggest a title change to "Mods, Please Delete".


It's a news article that'd have the exact same fucking wording if a video wasn't embedded.


Link Posted: 8/31/2015 11:05:21 AM EDT
I'm only here to see someone go nuts and banned.
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Link Posted: 8/31/2015 11:07:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/31/2015 11:13:16 AM EDT by VrodRay]
Come on, I hate a dog abuser probably more then most, but that's nothing. Looks like a handler trying to get his dog off of being locked onto that door. Working dogs can be overly passionate about things and need to be corrected sometimes with an alpha like demeanor.




 
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Am I in before someone says he should be charged with attempted murder on a police officer?


I keed I keed. I'm a dog lover and that didn't seem so bad. I wouldn't do it to my dogs, but it didn't look like a big deal.


Eta: ooh I see we have a cry for felony assault. I'm still gonna score that one an IBT....
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No.  Where does this nonsense come from?  Well, there are probably federal charges if its a federal police animal, but not your regular local jurisdiction.

ETA-Video isn't working for me.  Either way, a pop with leash is nothing.  Those dogs are quite Alpha and sometimes you have to get their attention.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 11:10:15 AM EDT
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Glad this lady isn't my neighbor.  I've whooped my GSD worse than that.  Even had to pin her down and stay on top of her a couple times in my front yard not long after I got her.  Sometimes you have to show a rebellious dog who is boss.  Dogs respond to physical force.  Doesn't mean you're beating or hurting them.

She's now the most mindful, loyal, and by far the smartest dog I've ever had.  She would walk through fire with me.  And all it takes is a verbal command to get her to straighten up.  At the most a small spanking on the butt, but that's rare.

ETA:  Unless there is a cat around.  I only have about a 25% success rate to keep her from chasing a cat.  

Link Posted: 8/31/2015 11:11:56 AM EDT
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If that is "whipping" and "stomping" a dog, I have must have "murdered" my dog several times to correct improper behavior.
 
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That one officer clearly assaulted the other.
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Originally Posted By mototard:
Originally Posted By DangerJ:
Now there's a stable, well-adjusted individual that should be responsible for enforcing the laws of the land!






That one officer clearly assaulted the other.





I can't view the video. Are you saying the dog is a police officer?
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Originally Posted By SleepingBirdDog:
That lady would probably be really upset when she learned what the collar on my dog does...
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Both my dogs have zappers. Sometimes I get mean looks from soccer moms. My dogs are quiet and I piss off whiny PETA bitches. Win!


And my GSD has a pinch collar!
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 11:17:11 AM EDT
Signal25 could bring good information to this thread
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I can't view the video. Are you saying the dog is a police officer?
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Originally Posted By DangerJ:
Originally Posted By mototard:
Originally Posted By DangerJ:
Now there's a stable, well-adjusted individual that should be responsible for enforcing the laws of the land!






That one officer clearly assaulted the other.





I can't view the video. Are you saying the dog is a police officer?


Yeah.  It's a common misconception.  Some departments give honorary titles/ranks to the dogs.  Its often used and corrected on here, but the internet is wide and deep so it keeps coming back.  Just like the above "federal charge" for abusing a police K-9, or the ever popular "murder of a police officer if you kill a K-9".
Is there an enhanced penalty?  Of course there is.  My dog was $14,000 in 2003 when he was purchased.  You better believe that if you destroy $14,000 of government property that you're going to get hit with an enhanced charge.

No police reports involving K-9 that I have ever read have ever referred to the dog as anything other than "I, Dy/Officer Johnny Appleseed then entered the building along with K-9 Spock in order to clear the interior of the building for suspects" and such.  I have never seen it that the dog was listed as anything other than K-9....not saying that it hasn't/doesn't happen...just that I have no personal experience with it and it is not the standard.
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It's a news article that'd have the exact same fucking wording if a video wasn't embedded.


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Originally Posted By OKSoda:


Bitch to the news network.  I read the article same as if this appeared in the paper.  Video is blocked.  So how the fuck would I know?

Actually come up with a title and I'll change it.


You posted a sensationalist thread about a video that you didn't even watch?  WTF.  I would suggest a title change to "Mods, Please Delete".


It's a news article that'd have the exact same fucking wording if a video wasn't embedded.




Yeah, OK, Soda.
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Yup.
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Yup.
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Signal25 could bring good information to this thread


Yup.


It's true.
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There are quite a few LEO here that could help with information concerning police questions and such.  The problem is that replies to your question would have to be searched for though the off topic replies you'd get.
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Yeah, OK, Soda.
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Originally Posted By OKSoda:


Bitch to the news network.  I read the article same as if this appeared in the paper.  Video is blocked.  So how the fuck would I know?

Actually come up with a title and I'll change it.


You posted a sensationalist thread about a video that you didn't even watch?  WTF.  I would suggest a title change to "Mods, Please Delete".


It's a news article that'd have the exact same fucking wording if a video wasn't embedded.




Yeah, OK, Soda.


I changed the title, did that cut down on the micro-aggression's this thread has caused you?  

The title of the article was reflected in the title of the thread.  The exact same way I always share news stories, which is the exact same way news stories are usually shared.

If you have something to imply, go ahead.
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This.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 11:30:36 AM EDT
a leash pop is whipping now?

those were gentle corrections.
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I changed the title, did that cut down on the micro-aggression's this thread has caused you?  

The title of the article was reflected in the title of the thread.  The exact same way I always share news stories, which is the exact same way news stories are usually shared.

If you have something to imply, go ahead.
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I was going to ask you about that WTF title, glad I decided to read the thread.  Some folks who get butthurt with the OP over the title that matches the articles headline are not really worth responding to.

Headlines SHOULD be the thread title to prevent dupage and to make referencing the publication easier.
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Where did I say that?
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Not the right way to correct a training problem with a canine...



Perhaps, but not abuse either.



Where did I say that?





You didn't. I was just making the point. Wasn't directed towards you.
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I was going to ask you about that WTF title, glad I decided to read the thread.  Some folks who get butthurt with the OP over the title that matches the articles headline are not really worth responding to.

Headlines SHOULD be the thread title to prevent dupage and to make referencing the publication easier.
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I changed the title, did that cut down on the micro-aggression's this thread has caused you?  

The title of the article was reflected in the title of the thread.  The exact same way I always share news stories, which is the exact same way news stories are usually shared.

If you have something to imply, go ahead.


I was going to ask you about that WTF title, glad I decided to read the thread.  Some folks who get butthurt with the OP over the title that matches the articles headline are not really worth responding to.

Headlines SHOULD be the thread title to prevent dupage and to make referencing the publication easier.




Shouldn't have edited the title. The hurt butts would heal eventually.
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