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Posted: 10/22/2004 3:31:56 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/22/2004 8:49:16 AM EST by HiramRanger]
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 3:37:15 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/22/2004 3:38:04 AM EST by ANGST]
Kerry is gonna win


ETA Shouldn't this be the Oct 22nd map ?
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 3:40:22 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 3:41:18 AM EST

Originally Posted By ANGST:
Kerry is gonna win

ETA Shouldn't this be the Oct 22nd map ?



How do you figure?

Bush will win FL, WI, OH, PA and MN.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 3:42:42 AM EST

Originally Posted By HiramRanger:

Originally Posted By ANGST:
Kerry is gonna win


ETA Shouldn't this be the Oct 22nd map ?



It should, but since you make the same tired post every day I figured I'd give you the Groundhog Day Treatment...

Link Posted: 10/22/2004 3:43:26 AM EST
45 States!


but only if we all get out and VOTE!!!!!!


SGtar15
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 3:45:44 AM EST

Originally Posted By VTHOKIESHOOTER:

Originally Posted By ANGST:
Kerry is gonna win



How do you figure?

Bush will win FL, WI, OH, PA and MN.



Actually I'd like to see the polling data for OH , PA, and FL whoever gets 2 of those will win. I see Bush getting OH , but I think PA and FL are too close.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 4:43:17 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/22/2004 4:44:45 AM EST by HiramRanger]
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 4:43:36 AM EST

Originally Posted By sgtar15:
45 States!


but only if we all get out and VOTE!!!!!!


SGtar15



I'm voting! Hubby is voting for the first time in his life, because I registered him and he will go if I have to take him at gunpoint! I even convinced my mother that sKerry is a piece of shit (mom is democrat is voting Bush)
But I am in a RED state.. all I have accomplished is getting more popular vote.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 4:45:42 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 4:49:13 AM EST
If you dont VOTE--dont post, just GO AWAY!!!!
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 4:49:49 AM EST

Originally Posted By HiramRanger:


Dump the hubby and give me a call... I've never missed a vote and I'm in a blue state... think of how crazy we could drive the liberals with you by my side...



that would be a site.
But I'll stick with hubby.. he really is a good guy.. after all he bought me my first AR15.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 5:08:08 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 5:25:53 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/22/2004 5:26:04 AM EST by NewbHunter]
Kerry is not going to win. Period.

Bush has got it in the bag. Sgtar15 is right. It's going to be a landslide and I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see 45 states taken...

...but only if we all get out and vote!!!
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 5:35:47 AM EST

Originally Posted By ANGST:
Kerry is gonna win




Bullshit! ABC News is showing that Bush is leading Kerry, and that Bush has 50% support in the polls, AND the LIBERAL Detroit Free Press is showing that Bush has a 3% lead in MICHIGAN of all places. Michigan is a state that has not even been considered to be in play for well over a month!

I am more convinced now than ever: 45 States and Maybe California!
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 5:50:25 AM EST
I've been pretty pessimistic up to this point. I'm glad you all have been pointing out other sources of polls, but you missed the one that finally turned me around. The Vegas payoffs for Bush are 3/5. After the debates the Vegas payoff for Kerry 2/1.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 5:50:47 AM EST
I never see Kali going red and I fear for my state, way to much union BS around hear the force is strong with the Democraps here in PA.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 5:55:42 AM EST
USA Today has a Gallup graphic on its front page today showing Kerry leading Bush in Ohio, and with that being a trend.

Just bringing you information. I have no idea if it's accurate or not.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 5:57:12 AM EST

Originally Posted By Cereal-Killer:
I've been pretty pessimistic up to this point. I'm glad you all have been pointing out other sources of polls, but you missed the one that finally turned me around. The Vegas payoffs for Bush are 3/5. After the debates the Vegas payoff for Kerry 2/1.



I have no idea what that means, as I never, EVER gamble (I work too hard for my money to throw it away).

Would you please educate me on this?
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 6:01:21 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 6:01:27 AM EST

Originally Posted By ANGST:
Kerry is gonna win


quit posting the same defeatist bullshit over and over. it got old about a week ago.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 6:04:14 AM EST

Originally Posted By sgtar15:
45 States!


but only if we all get out and VOTE!!!!!!


SGtar15



well maybe not 45 states but...BUSH IS GONNA WIN
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 6:11:32 AM EST

Originally Posted By Zaphod:

Originally Posted By Cereal-Killer:
I've been pretty pessimistic up to this point. I'm glad you all have been pointing out other sources of polls, but you missed the one that finally turned me around. The Vegas payoffs for Bush are 3/5. After the debates the Vegas payoff for Kerry 2/1.



I have no idea what that means, as I never, EVER gamble (I work too hard for my money to throw it away).

Would you please educate me on this?



The payoff for Bush is $3 on a $5 dollar bet. The payoff for Kerry is $2 for every $1 bet.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 6:13:30 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 6:14:19 AM EST

Originally Posted By -Absolut-:

Originally Posted By ANGST:
Kerry is gonna win


quit posting the same defeatist bullshit over and over. it got old about a week ago.



Oh it's only been 4 days.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 6:16:30 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 6:17:32 AM EST
Bush.

45 states.

Faith can move mountains.

Now, EVERYONE PICK UP YOUR SHOVEL AND GET BACK TO WORK MOVING THAT MOUNTAIN!!!!!!

How much clearer can I make it, folks?
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 6:22:03 AM EST

Originally Posted By FALCORE:
If you dont VOTE--dont post, just GO AWAY!!!!



I live in a state that is a lock for Bush. It doesn't matter though, I just can't bring myself to vote anymore. I can't live the lie. I am tired of being stolen from and having no recourse, I am tired of the fearmongering and I am tired of big government and socialism. I have not yet seen anything in Bush that makes me think he is anything but a globalist.

Today the State Deparment announced that all US passports are going to have RFID chips in them. Pretty soon, we are going to have internal passports, aka National IDs masquerading as driver's licenses. This is totalitarian. I have chosen to not be a part of it and to not encourage this slide into tyranny and that means I can't vote anymore because voting gives you NO CHOICE--this stuff is going to happen whether Americans elect Bush or Kerry. Get it?
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 6:24:07 AM EST

Originally Posted By thelibertarian:
i've got sand in my mangina


cliff's notes version for those that don't want to read blabbering whining.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 6:38:00 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 6:40:09 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/22/2004 6:44:11 AM EST by newtoma]

Originally Posted By thelibertarian:
I can't vote anymore because voting gives you NO CHOICE--this stuff is going to happen whether Americans elect Bush or Kerry. Get it?



Hey you are a librarian (and as such) have never had a real job, so we don't care what you think!
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 8:14:02 AM EST
Hey Hiram, looks like electoral-vote.com did a mid-day update. It's now K-257 / B-271.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 8:34:23 AM EST

Originally Posted By thelibertarian:

Originally Posted By FALCORE:
If you dont VOTE--dont post, just GO AWAY!!!!



I live in a state that is a lock for Bush. It doesn't matter though, I just can't bring myself to vote anymore. I can't live the lie. I am tired of being stolen from and having no recourse, I am tired of the fearmongering and I am tired of big government and socialism. I have not yet seen anything in Bush that makes me think he is anything but a globalist.

Today the State Deparment announced that all US passports are going to have RFID chips in them. Pretty soon, we are going to have internal passports, aka National IDs masquerading as driver's licenses. This is totalitarian. I have chosen to not be a part of it and to not encourage this slide into tyranny and that means I can't vote anymore because voting gives you NO CHOICE--this stuff is going to happen whether Americans elect Bush or Kerry. Get it?



Can't live the lie eh? Well then come up with a better solution. Get yourself elected to something and create change from within. Help prevent this so called slide into tyranny you speak of. Now in my opinion, I don't see any draconian consequences from a chip in a passport. My whole life I've had to use my passport three times. Forgive me, but what's the problem?

Now National ID's? Come on, there would be such a huge fight and uproar that it will never fly.

Bush is a globalist? Hell, I'm a globalist and so are the clients and companies I represent. That's the real word.

With respect, I'm trying to understand why you would just bail. Your vote can make a difference even if Bush has your state locked up.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 8:42:48 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 8:47:10 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 8:49:29 AM EST

Originally Posted By arowneragain:
Bush.

45 states.

Faith can move mountains.

Now, EVERYONE PICK UP YOUR SHOVEL AND GET BACK TO WORK MOVING THAT MOUNTAIN!!!!!!

How much clearer can I make it, folks?




Amen! (He says as he picks up his shovel...)
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 8:52:16 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/22/2004 8:52:25 AM EST by HeavyMetal]
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 8:55:49 AM EST
You lucky 'messenger' bastard, I was ready to come after you with a 2x4
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 8:58:07 AM EST
Final Projection is still for Kerry, at least he admits why.
www.electoral-vote.com/pred/index.html
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 9:12:20 AM EST
I can't get onto the site right now. Either another hacker attack from DU because he is telling the truth or too many Repubs on the site basking in the glow.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 9:15:04 AM EST

Originally Posted By thelibertarian:

Originally Posted By FALCORE:
If you dont VOTE--dont post, just GO AWAY!!!!



I live in a state that is a lock for Bush. It doesn't matter though, I just can't bring myself to vote anymore. I can't live the lie. I am tired of being stolen from and having no recourse, I am tired of the fearmongering and I am tired of big government and socialism. I have not yet seen anything in Bush that makes me think he is anything but a globalist.

Today the State Deparment announced that all US passports are going to have RFID chips in them. Pretty soon, we are going to have internal passports, aka National IDs masquerading as driver's licenses. This is totalitarian. I have chosen to not be a part of it and to not encourage this slide into tyranny and that means I can't vote anymore because voting gives you NO CHOICE--this stuff is going to happen whether Americans elect Bush or Kerry. Get it?



So basically, you're living a fantasy. You think that things will somehow get better by doing nothing. Or maybe you think that we might as well start a civil war. Take a look at political history, and think about how you go about making political changes (hint: The Socialists have been doing it. Their goals may be wrong, but their method is right-on.)
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 9:17:07 AM EST
Is VA really on the bubble? I have a hard time believing that.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 9:21:14 AM EST

Originally Posted By JHP:
Is VA really on the bubble? I have a hard time believing that.



Lotta union there. Plus, you know, Kerry's a HUNTER.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 9:24:06 AM EST

Originally Posted By ANGST:
Kerry is gonna win


ETA Shouldn't this be the Oct 22nd map ?




STOP IT ALREADY!
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 9:24:31 AM EST

Originally Posted By JHP:
Is VA really on the bubble? I have a hard time believing that.

no. VA will go to the President.


this has to be discouragine to the liberals, President Bush can lose PA and OH and still win the election.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 9:28:38 AM EST
In all actuallity I hope to see Kerry in the lead "in the polls" before the election. Democrats always sign up a bunch of folks to vote but don't have good turnout. Republicans don't sign up as many but usually have a solid turnout. Let the democrats think they're in the lead and let them stay home.

"Vote Democrat, It's easier than working."
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 9:28:39 AM EST
Did you guys see the Supreme Court Justices on that site.


Justice Appointed by Sworn in Age
Stephen Breyer Clinton 1994 66
Ruth Bader Ginsburg Clinton 1993 71
Anthony M. Kennedy Ford 1975 68
Sandra Day O'Connor Reagan 1981 74
William H. Rehnquist Nixon 1972 80
Antonin Scalia Reagan 1986 68
David H. Souter Bush 1990 65
John Paul Stevens Ford 1975 84
Clarence Thomas Bush 1990 56

2 of them are in their 80's!
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 9:31:14 AM EST

Originally Posted By newtoma:

Originally Posted By thelibertarian:
I can't vote anymore because voting gives you NO CHOICE--this stuff is going to happen whether Americans elect Bush or Kerry. Get it?



Hey you are a librarian (and as such) have never had a real job, so we don't care what you think!



Link Posted: 10/22/2004 9:36:46 AM EST

Originally Posted By -Absolut-:
this has to be discouragine to the liberals, President Bush can lose PA and OH and still win the election.



Technically it is possible. Realisticly, Bush is going to have to go 2 for 3 in Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida. Anything else is too close for comfort, especially given the makeup of the courts in those states.

Yes, my OPTIMISTIC prediction is that this election will be decided by the courts.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 9:39:28 AM EST

Originally Posted By motown_steve:

Originally Posted By -Absolut-:
this has to be discouragine to the liberals, President Bush can lose PA and OH and still win the election.



Technically it is possible. Realisticly, Bush is going to have to go 2 for 3 in Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida. Anything else is too close for comfort, especially given the makeup of the courts in those states.

Yes, my OPTIMISTIC prediction is that this election will be decided by the courts.


that's a worst case scenario for President Bush imo, i think he'll take 300+ EVs
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 9:39:29 AM EST
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