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Posted: 10/22/2016 4:09:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/22/2016 4:15:10 PM EDT
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Carter didn't have smartmatic voter machines.
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Posted: 10/22/2016 4:17:42 PM EDT
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A friend pointed that same thing out to me the other day.
It was before my time, born in '84, but he said the media said Carter had the edge the whole way through. I just hope history repeats itself. |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 4:18:23 PM EDT
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We did this thread a week or two ago:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1918188_.html It comes down to whether you want to believe one polling series or the average of multiple polling series, and whether you want to believe that the 1980 election has any bearing on another election a generation later. Everyone is going to believe whatever they want to believe and nothing is illuminated. You'll know for sure in 16 days, but right now the best available data shows massive electoral defeat. You'd best prepare for that while taking whatever actions you deem necessary to avoid it. |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 4:19:37 PM EDT
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Warms my cockles to remember sitting in the kindergarten library watching Regan get sworn in.
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Posted: 10/22/2016 4:22:19 PM EDT
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I haven't thought of John Anderson in some time...
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Posted: 10/22/2016 4:23:32 PM EDT
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Carter had it in the bag until he brought America-First on as a political adviser.
The rest was history |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 4:24:13 PM EDT
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Serious question..What was the media like back then?
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Posted: 10/22/2016 4:24:23 PM EDT
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I hope Trump wins and will vote for him as anyone interested in keeping 2nd Amendment rights should do.
The college campuses, the media, the government, school systems, and churches were intentionally infiltrated by the radical left, especially in the early 20th Century. My grand parents watched it happen and told us the story, and it is documented now if anyone care to inquire. As such the media has always leaned to the left ever since I can remember. I have seen data that they are 75% registered Democrats. A recent poll said that vast majority of political donations from media companies, like 24:1 or some such lop sided proportion, were to Democratic candidates. |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 4:25:57 PM EDT
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I was 8. I remember.
Most people become politically aware in their late teens. I was bouncing around at 8 years old like I had just gotten the best christmas present ever in 80 when Ronald won. |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 4:38:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Serious question..What was the media like back then? There was much more emphasis on international stuff. Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. Iran holding US hostages. TV/Radio - Most people got their news thru TV/Radio. Every night, it was "America held hostage - day #123" Print - More details were available from newspapers or news/financial magazines. Most newspaper editorials were somewhat biased towards Carter. |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 4:39:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Serious question..What was the media like back then? Left leaning |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 4:39:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Serious question..What was the media like back then? Mostly black and white. Sometimes it was in color. |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 4:41:02 PM EDT
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Don't forget Mariel and all the Cuban criminals he let into South Florida.
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Posted: 10/22/2016 4:41:47 PM EDT
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This and Brexit give me hope.
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Posted: 10/22/2016 4:45:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
I haven't thought of John Anderson in some time... 
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Posted: 10/22/2016 4:46:35 PM EDT
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6 months ahead, they decided the polls were dangerous - then Reagan won anyway.
I forget where the polls were 6 months prior to Nov 16, anyone recall? |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 4:51:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
A friend pointed that same thing out to me the other day. It was before my time, born in '84, but he said the media said Carter had the edge the whole way through. I just hope history repeats itself. Trump is no Reagan. |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 4:51:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/22/2016 4:54:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Trump is no Reagan. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A friend pointed that same thing out to me the other day. It was before my time, born in '84, but he said the media said Carter had the edge the whole way through. I just hope history repeats itself. Trump is no Reagan. Isn't this the truth, but if he does some how pull it off let us hope he continues not being Reagan because that would mean the banning of guns, more amnesty, and massive debt. |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 4:54:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump is no Reagan. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: A friend pointed that same thing out to me the other day. It was before my time, born in '84, but he said the media said Carter had the edge the whole way through. I just hope history repeats itself. Trump is no Reagan. And hillary is no carter. She actually has a vagina. carter just acted like it. |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 4:55:32 PM EDT
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the Dems have institutionalized voter fraud on their side this time
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Posted: 10/22/2016 4:58:18 PM EDT
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Polling has come a long way since then, though. The country is divided, no matter how you look at it.
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Posted: 10/22/2016 4:59:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Serious question..What was the media like back then? Left leaning, but not quite so much as now. |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 5:00:46 PM EDT
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There was like one polling firm in 1980. It was wrong.
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Posted: 10/22/2016 5:04:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Serious question..What was the media like back then? They were leftists, but usually pretended to be "fair and balanced". Since the days of Slick Willie, they stopped pretending. Now, The mask and the gloves, are completely off. It's different. Our only hope is that, maybe, just maybe, they've overplayed their hand |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 5:08:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump is no Reagan. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: A friend pointed that same thing out to me the other day. It was before my time, born in '84, but he said the media said Carter had the edge the whole way through. I just hope history repeats itself. Trump is no Reagan. There was similar criticism of Reagan back in 1980. They said he was too old, divorced man couldn't be president, an actor would make a lousy president, someone that used to be a Democrat to Republican couldn't be president... I agree that Trump is no Reagan. Trump has much more management experience. |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 5:10:42 PM EDT
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Election day was Day 365 of the Iranian Hostage Crisis.
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Posted: 10/22/2016 5:11:28 PM EDT
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This election is more like Kennedy vs Nixon and depending on how much history you've read and/or believe, Kennedy actually stole the election, Nixon really did win. In the end it mattered not as both were friends and shared the same play book, when Nixon was busted his statement he stood by was "I never did anything Jack didn't do "first").
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Posted: 10/22/2016 5:15:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Carter had it in the bag until he brought America-First on as a political adviser. The rest was history You don't know when to stop, do you? |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 5:19:46 PM EDT
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This was the electoral map in 1980 election.
Do ANY of you really think that states like California, NY, NJ, MA, MN, etc are going to go red this time? Do any of you think Trump has 1/10 the charisma of Reagan ? At the moment, this is the predicted electoral map for the 2016 election. 
Guys, if Trump wins this election, it will be a miracle. And there's ZERO chance he wins by a landslide. |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 5:24:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This was the electoral map in 1980 election. http://www.270towin.com/historical_maps/1980_large.png Do ANY of you really think that states like California, NY, NJ, MA, MN, etc are going to go red this time? Do any of you think Trump has 1/10 the charisma of Reagan ? At the moment, this is the predicted electoral map for the 2016 election. http://www.270towin.com/presidential_map_new/maps/Ad3r9.png Guys, if Trump wins this election, it will be a miracle. And there's ZERO chance he wins by a landslide.  |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 5:34:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
This was the electoral map in 1980 election. http://www.270towin.com/historical_maps/1980_large.png Do ANY of you really think that states like California, NY, NJ, MA, MN, etc are going to go red this time? Do any of you think Trump has 1/10 the charisma of Reagan ? At the moment, this is the predicted electoral map for the 2016 election. http://www.270towin.com/presidential_map_new/maps/Ad3r9.png Guys, if Trump wins this election, it will be a miracle. And there's ZERO chance he wins by a landslide. Bullshit, the current electoral map has 0 on both sides..the votes are not yet cast..not one single person on this forum, nor a single person on this entire damn planet knows how this is going to turn out, your best guess is no better than anyone elses guess...I just do not understand why some of you folks just bleed defeatism all the time, maybe you should consider turning the news stations off until this is over.. |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 5:40:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There was much more emphasis on international stuff. Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. Iran holding US hostages. TV/Radio - Most people got their news thru TV/Radio. Every night, it was "America held hostage - day #123" Print - More details were available from newspapers or news/financial magazines. Most newspaper editorials were somewhat biased towards Carter. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Serious question..What was the media like back then? There was much more emphasis on international stuff. Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. Iran holding US hostages. TV/Radio - Most people got their news thru TV/Radio. Every night, it was "America held hostage - day #123" Print - More details were available from newspapers or news/financial magazines. Most newspaper editorials were somewhat biased towards Carter. He did say everyone was worried Reagan was going to start WW3 if elected. Sounds familiar doesn't it? |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 5:41:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump is no Reagan. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: A friend pointed that same thing out to me the other day. It was before my time, born in '84, but he said the media said Carter had the edge the whole way through. I just hope history repeats itself. Trump is no Reagan. |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 5:42:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: the Dems have institutionalized voter fraud on their side this time |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 5:45:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
This was the electoral map in 1980 election. http://www.270towin.com/historical_maps/1980_large.png Do ANY of you really think that states like California, NY, NJ, MA, MN, etc are going to go red this time? Do any of you think Trump has 1/10 the charisma of Reagan ? At the moment, this is the predicted electoral map for the 2016 election. http://www.270towin.com/presidential_map_new/maps/Ad3r9.png Guys, if Trump wins this election, it will be a miracle. And there's ZERO chance he wins by a landslide. Did you pull that map out of your ass? http://www.270towin.com/ |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 5:46:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/22/2016 5:49:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Election day was Day 365 of the Iranian Hostage Crisis. Yep, something on that order. Plus there was one and only one televised debate within the week of the election wherein Reagan slayed. Plus, Carter had ostensibly lost a few helicopters in the Iranian sand, embarrassingly. |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 5:50:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
There was similar criticism of Reagan back in 1980. They said he was too old, divorced man couldn't be president, an actor would make a lousy president, someone that used to be a Democrat to Republican couldn't be president... I agree that Trump is no Reagan. Trump has much more management experience. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A friend pointed that same thing out to me the other day. It was before my time, born in '84, but he said the media said Carter had the edge the whole way through. I just hope history repeats itself. Trump is no Reagan. There was similar criticism of Reagan back in 1980. They said he was too old, divorced man couldn't be president, an actor would make a lousy president, someone that used to be a Democrat to Republican couldn't be president... I agree that Trump is no Reagan. Trump has much more management experience. You know Reagan was a two term Governor from California, right? |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 5:50:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Carter had it in the bag until he brought America-First on as a political adviser. The rest was history Underrated post |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 5:51:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Carter didn't have smartmatic voter machines. Or morons who get all their news from the Daily Show and Facebook/Twitter. |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 5:54:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryYes, like one in a million. 
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Posted: 10/22/2016 5:55:29 PM EDT
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Who are the researchers who successfully predicted all but 1 of the presidential elections in the past 60 or so years? I can't remember who they were regardless. They were spot on save for 1 state last time.
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Posted: 10/22/2016 5:58:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Who are the researchers who successfully predicted all but 1 of the presidential elections in the past 60 or so years? I can't remember who they were regardless. They were spot on save for 1 state last time. http://conservativetribune.com/most-accurate-presidential-poll/ |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 5:59:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Yep, something on that order. Plus there was one and only one televised debate within the week of the election wherein Reagan slayed. Plus, Carter had ostensibly lost a few helicopters in the Iranian sand, embarrassingly. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Election day was Day 365 of the Iranian Hostage Crisis. Yep, something on that order. Plus there was one and only one televised debate within the week of the election wherein Reagan slayed. Plus, Carter had ostensibly lost a few helicopters in the Iranian sand, embarrassingly. Are you better off now than you were four years ago? |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 6:09:35 PM EDT
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Carter lost the election when gas lines were longer than the lines at a free strip tease joint. Carter's genius address to the public during the oil crisis during the winter was to put on a fucking sweater and turn the heat down. Really how in the hell can anyone relate this election to 1980. Reagan was from Cali, friends with Walt Disney and a western movie badass. It's okay to relate Obama to Carter but it is not okay to relate Trump to the man that hung with the Duke or Dirty Harry.
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Posted: 10/22/2016 6:15:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
I just hope history repeats itself. |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 6:18:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I just hope history repeats itself. |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 6:20:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
I haven't thought of John Anderson in some time... Need a moment? |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 6:24:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You know Reagan was a two term Governor from California, right? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: A friend pointed that same thing out to me the other day. It was before my time, born in '84, but he said the media said Carter had the edge the whole way through. I just hope history repeats itself. Trump is no Reagan. There was similar criticism of Reagan back in 1980. They said he was too old, divorced man couldn't be president, an actor would make a lousy president, someone that used to be a Democrat to Republican couldn't be president... I agree that Trump is no Reagan. Trump has much more management experience. You know Reagan was a two term Governor from California, right? Yes. And before that, he was president of an actor's union. |
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