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Posted: 10/15/2004 3:08:26 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/15/2004 3:08:47 AM EST by HiramRanger]
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 3:16:12 AM EST
Is this much of a change from yesterday?
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 3:16:49 AM EST
Nope.

I wonder if he ignored Zogby this time?
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 3:17:00 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 3:28:14 AM EST
looks prety good to me
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 4:07:44 AM EST
Come on Pennsylvania! Wake the F... UP!

Its bad enough that we were a whore state in 2000!
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 4:11:08 AM EST
Pennsylvania has gone Democrat in the last three Presidential elections. I just don't get it. Especially when a Democrat representative like Jack Murtha is one of only TWO morons to actually vote to reinstate the draft. It was Charlie Rangel's bill and he didn't even vote for it.

Link Posted: 10/15/2004 4:18:22 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 4:19:58 AM EST
I'll be doing my part.

Since retiring from the Air Force I've registered in NC and am all set to "pull that lever" / "punch that hole" or whatever it is that regular (non absentee) voters do here nowadays. Lots of Bush Chenney signs around these parts so my vote should blend in quite happily with the many others around here.

I've missed many votes in the past but this one I deem to be too important to miss. Too much is riding this time.
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 4:21:35 AM EST
There's no way Kerry can lose CT, but I haven't seen nearly as many lawn signs or bumper stickers for him as I did for Gore in 2000. In fact, they are conspicuously absent.
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 4:26:45 AM EST
Kerry is only up by 1% in PA. We are not giving up until all the votes are counted.

I am praying for a late season hurricane that will strike NJ and SE PA on the night of 1 Nov. morning 2 Nov. This will suppress the Philly vote, and allow Bush to comfortably carry the state.

Hey, a man can dream can't he.
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 4:27:02 AM EST

Originally Posted By billparadise:
I'll be doing my part.

Since retiring from the Air Force I've registered in NC and am all set to "pull that lever" / "punch that hole" or whatever it is that regular (non absentee) voters do here nowadays. Lots of Bush Chenney signs around these parts so my vote should blend in quite happily with the many others around here.

I've missed many votes in the past but this one I deem to be too important to miss. Too much is riding this time.



You mention pull that lever, punch that hole. I know this is off topic, but does concern the election. These new voting machines that are computerized, are they rig proof? It just seems to me that with all the hackers in this world that someone might be able to rig these machines and once someone votes how would anyone know if there was voter fraud?
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 4:28:14 AM EST

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:
There's no way Kerry can lose CT, but I haven't seen nearly as many lawn signs or bumper stickers for him as I did for Gore in 2000. In fact, they are conspicuously absent.



That's because democrats don't like Kerry either, the only reason there voting for him is they hate Bush.
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 4:28:19 AM EST
LAS VEGAS SUCKS!!!!!!
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 4:29:31 AM EST
There is something wrong with that map. Commiefornia is the wrong color. It should be Dark BLUE.

If I took a piss on everybody I met yesterday, not one Republican would have gotten wet. This state will go 110% for Kerry. (Yes I know that the max is 100%, but you have to count the demoncratic fraud).
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 4:31:07 AM EST

Originally Posted By jfrush:

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:
There's no way Kerry can lose CT, but I haven't seen nearly as many lawn signs or bumper stickers for him as I did for Gore in 2000. In fact, they are conspicuously absent.



That's because democrats don't like Kerry either, the only reason there voting for him is they hate Bush.



Yeah, and we all know how effective that is. Remember Dole?
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 4:32:11 AM EST

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
i am finding it amuzing that the LEFT coast is not DARK blue during this election.




I don't. Both Oregon and Wa will go to Bush...and maybe Cali.

SGtar15
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 4:36:36 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/15/2004 4:37:52 AM EST by Wobblin-Goblin]

Originally Posted By sgtar15:
Both Oregon and Wa will go to Bush...and maybe Cali.


Forgot yer meds again this morning, Sarge?
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 4:39:30 AM EST

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:
Originally Posted By sgtar15:
Both Oregon and Wa will go to Bush...and maybe Cali./quote]
Forgot yer meds again this morning, Sarge?



Nope. Look at the second debate for proof. Disregard what Bush and Kerry said...just think about the questions that were being asked. All most all of the question were concerning why people should vote for Bush. No everyone make LIKE GWB but they KNOW that the USA NEEDS him.

Sgtar15
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 4:55:01 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 5:07:19 AM EST
Yea the Demoncrats have done Jack sh*t for PA over the last 20 years, we need to get more republicans in office in PA, to much union B.S. here.

Can you tell I don't believe in unions?
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 5:09:57 AM EST
That map seems to be getting more blue than red.......what's the scoop?
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 5:11:34 AM EST

Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
Its not going to be 45... 40 is possible, 45 is a fucking pipe dream... Sarge, can you shed any light on pipe dreams?



Fortunately Bush will win big. Unfortunately, Sarge won't get his 45 states, OR California.
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 5:13:20 AM EST

Originally Posted By dpmmn:
That map seems to be getting more blue than red.......what's the scoop?



The scoop is that IA & NJ are white.

Thus removing Bush & Kerry from their normal numbers

Bush will get upwards of 290 EVs... Just wait & see...
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 5:20:59 AM EST
Thank you bearer of news
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 5:22:13 AM EST

Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
Its not going to be 45... 40 is possible, 45 is a fucking pipe dream... Sarge, can you shed any light on pipe dreams?



I say 43 states and Kali will be in play and he may even take it!!
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 5:24:12 AM EST

Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
Its not going to be 45... 40 is possible, 45 is a fucking pipe dream... Sarge, can you shed any light on pipe dreams?




Well, i didn't explain it well in my earlier post, now that I have coffee I will try again.

I watch people and talk to them. I listen to their concerns and see what they do.


I study them. ANd I study the other people that are studing them with me.

ANd here are the facts as I see it.

People are still very much concerned about Iraq and GWB. Mostly the mothers with kids. ANd mothers will always put the safety of their children first. Their questions to the President in the second debate clearly reflected this. These women are also smarter then the peacenik generation of the 60's. They have come to realize that running from a war will not protect their kids this time. They WANT a strong man to protect them and their children.

GWB is that man....and they know it!


So the way I see it is that Kerry will take NY,VT,MA,RI, and maybe Cali.

GWB will take the rest.

Sgtr15
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 5:32:06 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/15/2004 5:32:58 AM EST by Torf]

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
Its not going to be 45... 40 is possible, 45 is a fucking pipe dream... Sarge, can you shed any light on pipe dreams?




They WANT a strong man to protect them and their children.

GWB is that man....and they know it!


So the way I see it is that Kerry will take NY,VT,MA,RI, and maybe Cali.

GWB will take the rest.

Sgtr15



GW will not take IL, and not likely take both MN or WI. WA and OR? Maybe one but not likely both. What about DE, CT, MD? I can MAYBE see GW taking 1 or two of them, but not three.

The best we will see if my opinion is 40-41 states. I think you are wise O Sgtar, but I think you are a bit optimistic!
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 5:37:07 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 5:53:50 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 5:57:29 AM EST
I already got several bets going, many with people on this board. So no, I am at my betting limit.

But it WILL be 45.

SGatr15
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 5:58:33 AM EST

Originally Posted By NevadaARshooter:
LAS VEGAS SUCKS!!!!!!



NV and NM
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 5:59:14 AM EST

It makes me feel good to see people arguing over how much Bush is going to win by, instead of whether or not he's going to win at all.

Link Posted: 10/15/2004 5:59:59 AM EST

Originally Posted By jfrush:
It makes me feel good to see people arguing over how much Bush is going to win by, instead of whether or not he's going to win at all.




...you have a very valid point!


SGtar15
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 6:15:46 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 6:21:25 AM EST

Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
I will say this, the following states will go Kerry... mark my word. NY, VT, MA, RI, MD, HI, IL, CT, DC. Those are 100% certainties in my mind.


Mine too. No way Kerry loses CT, IL, and HI. No way.
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 6:32:04 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/15/2004 6:32:21 AM EST by Torf]

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:

Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
I will say this, the following states will go Kerry... mark my word. NY, VT, MA, RI, MD, HI, IL, CT, DC. Those are 100% certainties in my mind.


Mine too. No way Kerry loses CT, IL, and HI. No way.



[emperor] Oooh, I'm afraid that Sarge will be paying up on a lot of debts come the day after the election! HehHehHehHehHehHehHehHeh [/emperor]

There are simply more than 5 states that are a liberal lock (NY, IL, CA, MA, HI, RI, CT, VT). There are several more states that Bush would be lucky to get (MN, WA, MD, MI, DE). Even some of the possibles are tossups IMO (WI, OR, NM, ME, NH). We haven't even gotten around to the "battleground" states yet. GW isn't Reagan, and the populace is at least 4 times stupider than they were in 1984.
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 6:32:16 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/15/2004 6:32:48 AM EST by LWilde]
Are you guys sensing the first signs of a pull-away by Bush into an unsurmountable lead?

I mean..in spite of all the help Kerry is getting from the media, in spite of Kerry beating the crap out of Bush in at least two of the three debates...as the pundits are so eager to tell us, in spite of the maniacal tactics of the Crackpot Left...Bush STILL leads Monsieur Kerry and the lead is now apparently expanding.

I think our guy is beginning a stretch run and things may be looking bad for Monsieur Kerry in the next few days.

What say ye?
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 6:38:56 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 6:44:16 AM EST
i've said it before, and i'll say it again, President Bush will take 35 states and 300+ EVs
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 7:48:55 AM EST

Originally Posted By sydney7629:
Pennsylvania has gone Democrat in the last three Presidential elections. I just don't get it. Especially when a Democrat representative like Jack Murtha is one of only TWO morons to actually vote to reinstate the draft. It was Charlie Rangel's bill and he didn't even vote for it.



I wonder if the newspaper in his district reported that stuff about Murtha.
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 7:51:31 AM EST
Im ashamed of my state (Illinois), the people here dont seem to realize that Kerry is gonna make it worse.....
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 7:52:08 AM EST
oh, good. nothing to worry about it.
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 7:54:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By GTOJudge885:
Im ashamed of my state (Illinois), the people here dont seem to realize that Kerry is gonna make it worse.....



Unions don't change. They are anachronisms. Eventually, they will have full wages and benefits for all twentyfive of their members.
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 8:17:04 AM EST

Originally Posted By five-star:

Originally Posted By sydney7629:
Pennsylvania has gone Democrat in the last three Presidential elections. I just don't get it. Especially when a Democrat representative like Jack Murtha is one of only TWO morons to actually vote to reinstate the draft. It was Charlie Rangel's bill and he didn't even vote for it.



I wonder if the newspaper in his district reported that stuff about Murtha.



Sure they do. It just doesn't matter, since Murtha brings home the pork in a big way. He is also in a very safe district.
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 11:55:19 AM EST
Maryland is possible if the black turnout is down. Blacks carry the Dem party here--provide at least 50 percent of the Dem votes in statewide elections (state is about 25 percent black over-all).

GunLvr
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