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Posted: 10/15/2008 10:29:49 PM EDT
Yes it's anecdotal evidence from an unnamed source, but I believe that at its core the story is accurate.  

www.redstate.com/diaries/david_rasbold/2008/oct/15/conversations-with-an-internal-pollster-for-o/


I have an interesting story to relay that took place earlier this week between my boss (a senior VP in the company I work for) and one of the Obama campaigns' internal pollsters.

Just to note, my boss is a republican and was meeting the Obama rep over lunch for other reasons. Politics obviously came up due to his line of work.

He asked my boss what her political leanings were and they did some chit chat around the issues and the impressions each had on the state of the race. What happened next was more than fascinating and should be a reminder to all of us to buck up and remain strong. All is not lost. In fact, we may be in a much better spot than we think - despite the national polls and what the daily media drumbeat to give up.

He asked my boss what she thought about Sarah Palin. While my boss is a republican she hasn't been nearly as enamored with her as most of our base. She noted concern about Sarah's experience, but said that she is still voting for McCain.

As she was explaining her perspective it dawned on her to ask why he (the Obama internal pollster) was interested in her view of Palin. He replied that Obama's campaign is extremely nervous about the energized republican base and what he called the "unkown factor" regarding Palin's draw as a candidate.

In the polls they're conducting around the country, and my boss wasn't able to relay specific numbers, the Obama campaign is very, very worried about how Palin appears to be energizing whole groups of people who don't typically get energized about politics, precisely because she appeals so strongly to the middle class, as well as women and dissatisfied republicans that stayed home in 2006.

More than that, they don't know how to guage and predict the support of people typically turned off by politics, but that are enamored with her "up from the bootstraps" appeal.

I say all of this because this pollster conveyed strong concern about their standing going into the homestretch. They are very concerned about winning the vote of the middle class and whole swaths of the electorate they consider the "unkowns." In fact, and based on her conversation with this internal pollster for Obama, he's not ahead in the polls as we're being told. He's at best tied.

Look, take it for what it is. But what I know is that we're being sold a bill of goods by the media. Why? Not to be conspiratorial, but they likely just want to dispirit us, precisely because Obama has yet to seal the deal. He should be way ahead this season, but he's not.

I'll close by saying that we have several weeks left. The Obama camp internally knows they haven't wrapped this thing up. Let's keep on fighting (and even if we have to drag McCain over the finish line - as Rush fondly exhorts us to do - let's do it) and let's win this thing!

Link Posted: 10/15/2008 10:36:30 PM EDT
[#1]
I believe it.  We already know that the MSM polls are BS and deliberateley slanted.  

We really need a truth in reporting law or something.  One based on documentation etc. so it can't be misused.
Link Posted: 10/15/2008 10:59:39 PM EDT
[#2]
I also belive the polls are very skewed and agree with the article. We'll see come Nov. 4th. I'm still voting for Palin
Link Posted: 10/15/2008 11:49:47 PM EDT
[#3]
The thing is, McCain (or Obama) don't have to sway ALL the electorate. 40% of all voters always vote Republican, and 40% always vote Democratic. That leaves 20% of the voters who must be swayed. THAT is the demographic that the Democratic internal pollster is worried about.

McCain's question is, What does he need to do to get 11% of the people in the U.S. to vote for him?

More precisely: How does he get the ELECTORAL COLLEGE VOTES he needs to vote for him?
Link Posted: 10/15/2008 11:51:03 PM EDT
[#4]
I also believe that is accurate. Good find.
Link Posted: 10/15/2008 11:59:19 PM EDT
[#5]
Regardless of the outcome of this election, anyone think that the people behind the hard left MSM slant will come clean and admit it?
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 12:09:13 AM EDT
[#6]
They never have before.
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 1:55:34 AM EDT
[#7]
I'm 61 and I am seeing some election oddities here.  No one is talking about the election.  If I bring it up, I quickly get the response that "I am sick of the election" or whatever.

Also in the past the landscape around here was plastered with signs- not this time.

I have no idea what this means.  But I think it may be good.  
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 2:30:14 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
I'm 61 and I am seeing some election oddities here.  No one is talking about the election.  If I bring it up, I quickly get the response that "I am sick of the election" or whatever.

Also in the past the landscape around here was plastered with signs- not this time.

I have no idea what this means.  But I think it may be good.  


It means different things to different folks.

For traditionalists it means we know this is not like any other election in history -- it means a stark contrast between whether we have a republic, or a corrupt third world socialist state.

We have adapted to the notion of walking softly and carrying a big stick.

For the enemy, it means 'We gon' lay low an git de Messiah in office, den we gon' go an take what we deserves'.

This is not a year for jocular electioneering, ie "Our chicken in every pot is tastier than your chicken in every pot."

No, this is a war.
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 2:43:01 AM EDT
[#9]
While we really don't know if this story is true or not, it actually makes sense.  Why would NBC have a Saturday Night Live episode on Thursday night bashing Sarah Palin if they weren't a bit concerned?  

Why would Obama spend millions of dollars to buy a 30 minute tv ad if he wasn't concerned?  That doesn't seem like the act of a front runner.  It seems like the act of one desparate candidate.
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 2:48:08 AM EDT
[#10]
^
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 3:17:05 AM EDT
[#11]
Interesting, barry may have unknowingly given credence to this during the debate.

I have to listen to the debate again, but he mentioned her energizing the base and it sounded similar to the quoted source above.
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 3:35:36 AM EDT
[#12]
I believe there is some basic truths in there along with some wishful thinking. I too suffer from that wishful thinking. At this point I feel like I can do no more than wish and it's uncomfortable
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 4:00:58 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:

No, this is a war.
it's about time the Right woke up to this.
It took 9/11 for America to realize the terrorists really meant it when they said they were at war with us.

The radical left has been out to destroy America from the inside since the early 60's.
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 4:13:39 AM EDT
[#14]
mn those polls we see all the time I truly believe are very bogus, they can interview 1,000 people but then they have an error rate soemtime up to 6%, man I dont about that but where I work at an error rate of that much will help you find another line of work extremely quickly.
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 4:43:12 AM EDT
[#15]
I find it very interesting that, we are in the midst of very bleak financial crisis, people, for whatever reason, right or wrong, are losing their homes,jobs. We are fighting an unpopular war, the president has been blamed for every disaster, lack of leadership, partisan politics, and being in kahoots with, and enriching his oil industry buddies, at the expense of the American people.......And yet, Obama is only what 3-5% ahead in what is obviously biased polls? Shouldn't he be winning this by a landslide in these polls?
I think we may be much better off than we think we are...........We just need to continue to stay energized and get the vote out...
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 4:47:21 AM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
I'm 61 and I am seeing some election oddities here.  No one is talking about the election.  If I bring it up, I quickly get the response that "I am sick of the election" or whatever.

Also in the past the landscape around here was plastered with signs- not this time.

I have no idea what this means.  But I think it may be good.  



I have noticed the same thing too and from people who were VERY vocal last time. What few signs I see around here are McCain/Palin signs.


Link Posted: 10/16/2008 4:55:39 AM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
I'm 61 and I am seeing some election oddities here.  No one is talking about the election.  If I bring it up, I quickly get the response that "I am sick of the election" or whatever.

Also in the past the landscape around here was plastered with signs- not this time.

I have no idea what this means.  But I think it may be good.  




There's a neighborhood near my office that I drive through during lunch. It's an upper middle class neighborhood, and last presidential election maybe 75% of the houses sported a bush/cheney sign. There was not one single Kerry sign to be seen.


This year maybe 30% of the houses have McCain/Paliin signs. That's one thing. But what's more telling is the number of Obama signs. I'd guess maybe 20% - 25% of the houses have them.

Of course, the houses sitting empty (maybe a half-dozen or more) don't have a sign at all.
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 5:15:27 AM EDT
[#18]
We'll know if this article is correct or not about the last week of the campaign. That is when the national media polls start to reflect more accurately what is going on. If the race is really as tight as the person quoted suggested, the national media polls will show a a tightening going into the election, as a face saving measure.
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 6:47:53 AM EDT
[#19]
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Quoted:
I believe it.  We already know that the MSM polls are BS and deliberateley slanted.  

We really need a truth in reporting law or something.  One based on documentation etc. so it can't be misused.


Sadly, you just proposed another "Truth Squad."  There is no government entity that would be "truthful" or "objective."

For that to happen, you need to define "Truth" and "Objectivity," with a big "T" and big "O" and philosophers have been struggling with that for thousands of years.

What can happen is both sides can make their cases and the voters will decide what the "truth" is.
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 11:23:09 AM EDT
[#20]
BTT.
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 11:27:15 AM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
Regardless of the outcome of this election, anyone think that the people behind the hard left MSM slant will come clean and admit it?


Absolutely not...
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 11:54:46 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
I'm 61 and I am seeing some election oddities here.  No one is talking about the election.  If I bring it up, I quickly get the response that "I am sick of the election" or whatever.

Also in the past the landscape around here was plastered with signs- not this time.

I have no idea what this means.  But I think it may be good.  


In days gone by, people on the other side would be disappointed if their candidate lost an election, but that was a s far as it went. Today, people are fearful of being attacked if they display campaign signs. It is magnified by the fact that one of the major party candidates is a Negro.
People are not just polarized now. They are becoming militant about it.
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 12:01:23 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I'm 61 and I am seeing some election oddities here.  No one is talking about the election.  If I bring it up, I quickly get the response that "I am sick of the election" or whatever.

Also in the past the landscape around here was plastered with signs- not this time.

I have no idea what this means.  But I think it may be good.  


In days gone by, people on the other side would be disappointed if their candidate lost an election, but that was a s far as it went. Today, people are fearful of being attacked if they display campaign signs. It is magnified by the fact that one of the major party candidates is a Negro.
People are not just polarized now. They are becoming militant about it.


I that sums things up pretty well.   I'd have a sign up, but I don't think it would be well received in our neighborhood, and I don't want to invite vandalism.  
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