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Posted: 7/21/2008 6:25:48 AM EST
Barack Obama's Butterfly Effect
July 20, 2008 4:45 PM

Today on CBS's Face the Nation, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., in Afghanistan, told the paparazzi-pursued correspondent Lara Logan that "the objective of this trip was to have substantive discussions with people like President Karzai or Prime Minister Maliki or President Sarkozy or others who I expect to be dealing with over the next eight to 10 years.

"And it's important for me to have a relationship with them early, that I start listening to them now, getting a sense of what their interests and concerns are."

The notion that Obama will be dealing with world leaders for eighjt-to-ten years, possibly up through July 2018, suggests that either (a) he believes that not only will he be elected and re-elected, but the 22nd amendment will be repealed and he will be elected for a third term, OR (b) he was speaking casually and just meant two terms.

(I'm guessing b.)

There is a term in chaos theory describing the how infinitesmal variations of the initial condition of a dynamical system may produce large variations in the long term behavior of the system.

Most of us are more familiar with the more common name for it: the butterfly effect.

The butterfly effect was introduced in Ray Bradbury's 1952 short story "A Sound of Thunder," when time travelers change the world beyond measure by accidentally killing a butterfly in prehistoric times.

Similarly, international diplomacy can be impacted by careless or glibly-chosen words. (Cue President Bush's "crusade" remarks.)

Some Democratic allies of Obama's are -- off the record -- concerned that the senator too often doesn't consider the potential butterfly effect of his diction.

Take his support for an "undivided Jerusalem," or his remarks about women seeking abortions when they're "feeling blue," which upset feminist leaders.

Or the media kerfuffle after his "refine my policies" presser.

On his press plane on July 5, after that incident, Obama said, "I’m surprised at how finely calibrated every single word was measured."

A reporter noted that that is precisely what happens with the president, he can change world affairs with one word, finely calibrating your words is what happens.

"Well, of course, no, I understand," Obama said. "But for me to say that I’m going to refine my policies, you know, I don’t think in anyway is inconsistent with prior statements and doesn’t change my strategic view that this war has to end and that I am going to end it as president."

This week Obama will have his words picked apart like never before, and it will be an international audience of not just opponents but actual enemies.

They will be watching and waiting to see if he kills any butterflies.

- jpt

July 20, 2008
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 6:30:12 AM EST

Originally Posted By NJ1776:
Barack Obama's Butterfly Effect
July 20, 2008 4:45 PM

Today on CBS's Face the Nation, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., in Afghanistan, told the paparazzi-pursued correspondent Lara Logan that "the objective of this trip was to have substantive discussions with people like President Karzai or Prime Minister Maliki or President Sarkozy or others who I expect to be dealing with over the next eight to 10 years.

"And it's important for me to have a relationship with them early, that I start listening to them now, getting a sense of what their interests and concerns are."

The notion that Obama will be dealing with world leaders for eighjt-to-ten years, possibly up through July 2018, suggests that either (a) he believes that not only will he be elected and re-elected, but the 22nd amendment will be repealed and he will be elected for a third term, OR (b) he was speaking casually and just meant two terms.

(I'm guessing b.)

There is a term in chaos theory describing the how infinitesmal variations of the initial condition of a dynamical system may produce large variations in the long term behavior of the system.

Most of us are more familiar with the more common name for it: the butterfly effect.

The butterfly effect was introduced in Ray Bradbury's 1952 short story "A Sound of Thunder," when time travelers change the world beyond measure by accidentally killing a butterfly in prehistoric times.

Similarly, international diplomacy can be impacted by careless or glibly-chosen words. (Cue President Bush's "crusade" remarks.)

Some Democratic allies of Obama's are -- off the record -- concerned that the senator too often doesn't consider the potential butterfly effect of his diction.

Take his support for an "undivided Jerusalem," or his remarks about women seeking abortions when they're "feeling blue," which upset feminist leaders.

Or the media kerfuffle after his "refine my policies" presser.

On his press plane on July 5, after that incident, Obama said, "I’m surprised at how finely calibrated every single word was measured."

A reporter noted that that is precisely what happens with the president, he can change world affairs with one word, finely calibrating your words is what happens.

"Well, of course, no, I understand," Obama said. "But for me to say that I’m going to refine my policies, you know, I don’t think in anyway is inconsistent with prior statements and doesn’t change my strategic view that this war has to end and that I am going to end it as president."

This week Obama will have his words picked apart like never before, and it will be an international audience of not just opponents but actual enemies.

They will be watching and waiting to see if he kills any butterflies.

- jpt

July 20, 2008


This story proves what every one here already knows Obama is an idiot that does not have a clue about the Constitution or our government works.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 6:32:04 AM EST
Don't forget Japan dropped the "bomb" on Pearl Harbor.
What a retard. I thought this POS was educated.
God help us
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 6:33:20 AM EST
That's not an issue to voters who want change they can believe in.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 6:35:46 AM EST
CHANGE!
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 6:35:49 AM EST
What a fucking dipshit.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 6:36:27 AM EST
Just words.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 6:36:43 AM EST
Nope!
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 6:36:56 AM EST

Originally Posted By Triumph955i:
CHANGE!


and HOPE!!!!!!
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 6:37:09 AM EST
[Last Edit: 7/21/2008 6:37:29 AM EST by CletusRoundbelly]
Just more proof that once in office, he isn't coming out.

He's going to usurp the constitution and declare himself savior and lifetime President of the U.S.



Link Posted: 7/21/2008 6:40:35 AM EST
He didn't say He'd be president that long... He said He'd be dealing with them that long... and, that's about right: from now until about a year after His presidency.
Matt
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 6:41:48 AM EST
What was he smoking before he said that?
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 6:52:08 AM EST

Originally Posted By valheru21:
He didn't say He'd be president that long... He said He'd be dealing with them that long... and, that's about right: from now until about a year after His presidency.
Matt
as much as i hate obama, i will agree with this guy. most of you are reading it out of context.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 6:56:46 AM EST

Originally Posted By Tomtbo:
What was he smoking before he said that?


you have to ask???

crack cocaine, what else
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 6:57:57 AM EST

Originally Posted By AMG08:

Originally Posted By valheru21:
He didn't say He'd be president that long... He said He'd be dealing with them that long... and, that's about right: from now until about a year after His presidency.
Matt
as much as i hate obama, i will agree with this guy. most of you are reading it out of context.


There are plenty of things we can disagree with Sen. Obama on... we don't need to make stuff up - it just makes us look like conspiracy theorist morons.
Matt
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 6:59:00 AM EST
He just doesn't know the difference between four and five years.

His educational background 'taught' him that there is just perception and that 'reality does not exist'. Of course the exact opposite is the fact but he has no way of knowing since he doesn't even know that reality exists let alone have any understanding of it. He probably uses the expressions 'his reality', 'her reality' or 'it's a reality'; when a person says things like that you have a clear indication that they don't have a clue, not even a tiny fraction of a clue.

Obama's intellectual foundation is firmly rooted in jello, he will never be able to think through to a correct conclusion. His supporters, voters and admirers are much the same. Hillary is in exactly the same state of profound confusion.

A wise man once said: "Him sad, brain broken.".

All great civilizations have come to an end, they fall because their populations lose the ability to think, thus it has been, thus it will be. How very sad.

Link Posted: 7/21/2008 6:59:31 AM EST

Originally Posted By AMG08:

Originally Posted By valheru21:
He didn't say He'd be president that long... He said He'd be dealing with them that long... and, that's about right: from now until about a year after His presidency.
Matt
as much as i hate obama, i will agree with this guy. most of you are reading it out of context.



So he's saying he'll be another Jimmy Carter, affecting foreign policy after he leaves office and there is a new administration?
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:00:20 AM EST
This is just a case of his brain not being engaged while he is talking.

I hope he continues to show his inexpierence and lack of thinking clearly while under stress.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:02:43 AM EST
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:05:06 AM EST

Originally Posted By MTUSA:
I thought this POS was educated.


Affirmative Action candidate.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:05:12 AM EST

Originally Posted By EdAvilaSr:
Didn't he say last year that he had been to 54 states?


57
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:06:58 AM EST
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:08:20 AM EST
This dipshit went to Columbia (which he downplays) for his undergrad and Harvard Law. He wasn't educated, but indoctrinated.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:08:56 AM EST

Originally Posted By EdAvilaSr:
Didn't he say last year that he had been to 54 states?


57 states, with one to go and two they wont let him go to 57 states
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:16:30 AM EST
[Last Edit: 7/21/2008 7:17:16 AM EST by callgood]

Originally Posted By valheru21:
He didn't say He'd be president that long... He said He'd be dealing with them that long... and, that's about right: from now until about a year after His presidency.
Matt


After they leave office they go on the rubber chicken circuit, give speeches, and bank a lot of coins. Maybe two years of camel haggis is all he figures he can stomach. (Little pun, there).
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:17:03 AM EST

DOPE.

Maybe he plans to run for Governor of the the 57th State (what ever that is) after POTUS.

And they say this guy is intelligent, educated, experienced and ARTICULATE??
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:17:06 AM EST
he will have hisself declared

"His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Obama Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Ohio in Particular. and king of scotland"
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:22:03 AM EST

Originally Posted By valheru21:
He didn't say He'd be president that long... He said He'd be dealing with them that long... and, that's about right: from now until about a year after His presidency.
Matt


Why would he be dealing with them a year and a half after his Presidency was over? If this is just speaking loosely, it's not the way someone who respects the Constitution would speak.

And even talking about eight years as if it were a fact is quite arrogant.

Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:24:40 AM EST

Originally Posted By st0newall:
he will have hisself declared

"His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Obama Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Ohio in Particular. and king of scotland"

Let's hope he is as nutty as Idi Amin.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:28:19 AM EST

Originally Posted By valheru21:

Originally Posted By AMG08:

Originally Posted By valheru21:
He didn't say He'd be president that long... He said He'd be dealing with them that long... and, that's about right: from now until about a year after His presidency.
Matt
as much as i hate obama, i will agree with this guy. most of you are reading it out of context.


There are plenty of things we can disagree with Sen. Obama on... we don't need to make stuff up - it just makes us look like conspiracy theorist morons.
Matt


Well, everyone says we are anyway, why not act like it full time?
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:30:15 AM EST
[Last Edit: 7/21/2008 7:30:55 AM EST by mmx1]

Originally Posted By DV8:
This dipshit went to Columbia (which he downplays) for his undergrad and Harvard Law. He wasn't educated, but indoctrinated.


Oh please.
<-

McCain saw fit to send his daughter there, and spoke at my class day.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:30:27 AM EST

57 states, with one to go and two they wont let him go to 57 states

I can't stand Obama, but this one isn't difficult to figure out: he meant to say 47, but 57 came out.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:33:27 AM EST

Originally Posted By CletusRoundbelly:
Just more proof that once in office, he isn't coming out.

He's going to usurp the constitution and declare himself savior and lifetime President of the U.S.
Well, he is the Obamessiah, peace be unto him.

Kharn
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:33:35 AM EST

Originally Posted By CletusRoundbelly:
Just more proof that once in office, he isn't coming out.

He's going to usurp the constitution and declare himself savior and lifetime President of the U.S.





He doesn't have the balls...

Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:37:19 AM EST
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:37:37 AM EST
I heard him say this on the radio.

How the fuck can he be this dumb?

You'd almost have to make a point to say stupid shit like this.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:38:40 AM EST
Just because he said he'll be dealing with them from 8-10 years doesn't mean he meant he was going to be president for 10 years. He can still deal with th em after he's not president anymore.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:40:54 AM EST
[Last Edit: 7/21/2008 7:42:26 AM EST by ColtAllure]

Originally Posted By wdlsguy:

57 states, with one to go and two they wont let him go to 57 states

I can't stand Obama, but this one isn't difficult to figure out: he meant to say 47, but 57 came out.


But he also said that there were two states to go (or some such, but he said "two"), so it doesn't make sense that way either.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:47:06 AM EST

Originally Posted By valheru21:

Originally Posted By AMG08:

Originally Posted By valheru21:
He didn't say He'd be president that long... He said He'd be dealing with them that long... and, that's about right: from now until about a year after His presidency.
Matt
as much as i hate obama, i will agree with this guy. most of you are reading it out of context.


There are plenty of things we can disagree with Sen. Obama on... we don't need to make stuff up - it just makes us look like conspiracy theorist morons.
Matt


Do you mean his post-office bonus bribes for doing their will?
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:47:58 AM EST
Guys and gals, we are going to have lots of fun with Obama-speak; remember his saying asthmatic children should be given breathalyzers?
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:52:17 AM EST

Originally Posted By TheCynic:

Originally Posted By st0newall:
he will have hisself declared

"His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Obama Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Ohio in Particular. and king of scotland"

Let's hope he is as nutty as Idi Amin.



"The ayatollah of rockin' rollah!"
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 8:16:22 AM EST

Originally Posted By AMG08:

Originally Posted By valheru21:
He didn't say He'd be president that long... He said He'd be dealing with them that long... and, that's about right: from now until about a year after His presidency.
Matt
as much as i hate obama, i will agree with this guy. most of you are reading it out of context.


Yeah, right. He's the same moron who thinks there are 57 states.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 8:17:21 AM EST
Yawn....

In the meantime, I still hear Dan Quayle jokes.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 8:29:16 AM EST
[Last Edit: 7/21/2008 3:26:52 PM EST by NH_AR_Shooter]

Originally Posted By valheru21:
He didn't say He'd be president that long... He said He'd be dealing with them that long... and, that's about right: from now until about a year after His presidency.
Matt


Hes not dealing with them now, campaigning is not equivalent to conducting foreign policy.

Why would he be "dealing with them" one minute or one year after he leaves office?

While he didn't intend to imply he'd be president that long, what he did say was stupid, and if anyone else said it they'd be a laughing stalk.

Obama says stupid shit every couple days, and gets a pass by the mass media, among others.

Link Posted: 7/21/2008 8:58:58 AM EST


57 states, with one to go and two they wont let him go to 57 states


But he also said that there were two states to go (or some such, but he said "two"), so it doesn't make sense that way either.

47 + 1 + 2 = 50.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 9:01:26 AM EST

Originally Posted By Dave_A:

Originally Posted By CletusRoundbelly:
Just more proof that once in office, he isn't coming out.

He's going to usurp the constitution and declare himself savior and lifetime President of the U.S.





He doesn't have the balls...



His wife does.

*rims­hot*
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 9:05:50 AM EST
Interesting math...

Hitler thought he was the architect of a "Thousand Year Reich," but it only lasted 12 years.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 9:06:27 AM EST

Originally Posted By Dawgsquat:

Originally Posted By Triumph955i:
CHANGE!


and HOPE!!!!!!
You can keeo th change a nd shove the hope
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 9:08:16 AM EST
So what, is he getting an endorsement deal for 8-10 years?

TXL
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 9:13:45 AM EST

Originally Posted By TxLewis:
So what, is he getting an endorsement deal for 8-10 years?

TXL



Yep...........Nike's next PR man.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 9:16:03 AM EST
It's all an honest mistake, now bow to our Obamination
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