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Posted: 5/1/2009 6:47:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/1/2009 6:50:54 PM EDT by glockO]
Obama revelling in U.S. power unseen in decades
Fri May 1, 2009 9:47pm BST
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By Steve Holland

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Barack Obama is revelling in presidential power and influence unseen in Washington for decades.

Barely 100 days in office, the U.S. president and his Democratic Party have firm control over the White House and Congress and the ability to push through ambitious plans.

Now, with the coming retirement of a Supreme Court justice clearing the way for him to appoint a successor, Obama already is assured a legacy at the top of all three branches of government –– executive, legislative and judicial.

On the corporate front, the federal government's pumping of billions of dollars in bailout money into banks and auto companies has given Obama the power to force an overhaul in those industries, a remarkable intervention in capitalist industries by the state.

Americans are giving him leeway as well. His job approval ratings are well over 60 percent, giving him political capital to undertake big challenges.

His political opponents, the Republicans, are in disarray, reduced in numbers and engaged in an internal struggle over how to recover from devastating election losses in 2006 and last year.

Experts speak of Obama in the same league as such transformational presidents as Democrat Franklin Roosevelt, who led the United States through the Great Depression and World War Two, and Republican Ronald Reagan, who led the country to victory in the Cold War.

"I cannot in my memory remember a time when a president of the United States has had more influence," said Democratic strategist Doug Schoen, who worked in the Clinton White House.

"Not only is it his moment, it is a level of influence and power for a president that is literally unprecedented from any time since the New Deal and Franklin Roosevelt. If he handles it right, it could be his century."

STROKE OF LUCK

Obama is seeing evidence that with power comes the occasional stroke of luck.

A gift came in the party switch this week by Pennsylvania Senator Arlen Specter from the Republicans to the Democrats.

It could give the Democrats unfettered authority. If and when Minnesota Democrat Al Franken overcomes a recount battle and takes his Senate seat, Democrats will have a 60-vote supermajority in the 100-member Senate.

The announced retirement of Supreme Court Justice David Souter has given Obama the opportunity to put his imprint on the highest U.S. court and replace one of the court's liberals with another liberal voice.

Although he will not be able to change the court's balance of power from a conservative majority any time soon, he will be able to select a justice likely to remain on the bench long after Obama has left the White House.

How long will his luck last?

With the U.S. economy reeling and millions of Americans without jobs, Obama has his work cut out for him. He has a long list of challenges, and spoke of them at a news conference this week.

"If you could tell me right now that, when I walked into this office that the banks were humming, that autos were selling, and that all you had to worry about was Iraq, Afghanistan, North Korea, getting healthcare passed, figuring out how to deal with energy independence, deal with Iran, and a pandemic flu, I would take that deal," Obama said.

Pollster John Zogby said that after his first 100 days, Obama now embarks on another weighty period in which Americans will want to see evidence that his $787 billion economic stimulus approved in February is working.

"I think by late June, they are going to have to start seeing some of these economic indicators stabilizing or at least some orange cones and hard hats out on the roads –– something that indicates either a stemming of the tide or some kind of progress," Zogby said.

Those who keenly watch the poll numbers also point out that while Obama is personally popular, some of the items on his agenda are less so.

"I think he will always stay personally popular," said Republican strategist Charlie Black, who was a senior adviser on Republican John McCain's presidential campaign last year. "But when you test the individual policies, a majority will tell you we're spending too much money."

"On the policy proposals the jury is out as to how popular they will be," he said.


A "Messiah" is BORN....I can't wait to see him walk on water
Link Posted: 5/1/2009 6:54:37 PM EDT
the higher he climbs, the farther he will fall.
Link Posted: 5/1/2009 6:55:20 PM EDT
Originally Posted By stormwalker:
the higher he climbs, the farther he will fall.


Let's hope.
Link Posted: 5/1/2009 6:56:05 PM EDT
"Now, with the coming retirement of a Supreme Court justice clearing the way for him to appoint a successor"

Who's retiring?
Link Posted: 5/1/2009 6:58:17 PM EDT
They compared him to Reagan? Holy shit.
Link Posted: 5/1/2009 6:58:34 PM EDT
I think he will be the last back president we have in our lifetimes. He's an amature, sort of like the movie role typically cast for black actors where they only semi-seriously engage whatever activity they are involved in because they lack the basic competence to do the job.
Link Posted: 5/1/2009 6:58:44 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Metallurgist:
"Now, with the coming retirement of a Supreme Court justice clearing the way for him to appoint a successor"

Who's retiring?


Souter
Link Posted: 5/1/2009 7:02:15 PM EDT
meg·a·lo·ma·ni·a  (měg'ə-lō-mā'nē-ə, -mān'yə) n:

  1. A psychopathological condition characterized by delusional fantasies of wealth, power, or omnipotence.
  2. An obsession with grandiose or extravagant things or actions.

meg'a·lo·ma'ni·ac' n., meg'a·lo·ma·ni'a·cal (-mə-nī'ə-kəl), meg'a·lo·man'ic (-mān'ĭk) adj.
Link Posted: 5/1/2009 7:11:29 PM EDT
Originally Posted By stormwalker:
the higher he climbs, the farther he will fall.



If he climbs high enough and falls far enough he could take a lot of the country with him when he takes the plunge.

Link Posted: 5/1/2009 7:14:53 PM EDT
Originally Posted By stormwalker:
the higher he climbs, the farther he WE will fall.


He won't go down alone.
Link Posted: 5/1/2009 7:15:56 PM EDT
Originally Posted By thexrayboy:
Originally Posted By stormwalker:
the higher he climbs, the farther he will fall.



If he climbs high enough and falls far enough he could take a lot of the country with him when he takes the plunge.



No doubt there will be untold damage.
Link Posted: 5/1/2009 8:08:31 PM EDT

He is relishing in how fast he is turning US into a socialist nation.  We are fucked.  52 percent of americans now want a socialist nation.  
What the hell happened.  I think it is due to the WW2 generation dying off leaving US with 60's hippies and a demoralized society.  Just my 2 cents.

Link Posted: 5/1/2009 8:09:52 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Zaphod:
Originally Posted By stormwalker:
the higher he climbs, the farther he will fall.


Let's hope.


I am afraid nobody will let him fall....
Link Posted: 5/1/2009 8:11:59 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Hollands1:

He is relishing in how fast he is turning US into a socialist nation.  We are fucked.  52 percent of americans now want a socialist nation.  
What the hell happened.  I think it is due to the WW2 generation dying off leaving US with 60's hippies and a demoralized society.  Just my 2 cents.



You better take a look at the demographics before you go badmouthing a generation.  It wasn't us who went 75 percent for him.

Link Posted: 5/1/2009 8:12:05 PM EDT
it needs to be stopped, but sadly it looks like it can't.

Link Posted: 5/1/2009 8:27:21 PM EDT


The economy WILL recover by next year (even if only slightly), thus guaranteeing a Democrat lock on the 2010 elections and most likely a re-election of Obama along with a continuing majority in both houses of Congress.

Republicans had their chance at it for almost four years with both houses of Congress and President from 2002-2006 and ten years as majority in the House. They fucking blew it.




Link Posted: 5/1/2009 8:39:45 PM EDT
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:


The economy WILL recover by next year (even if only slightly), thus guaranteeing a Democrat lock on the 2010 elections and most likely a re-election of Obama along with a continuing majority in both houses of Congress.

Republicans had their chance at it for almost four years with both houses of Congress and President from 2002-2006 and ten years as majority in the House. They fucking blew it.






Just exactly how did they cause the economy to go bad or what could they have done to prevent the collapse of the housing market that the Dems set in motion with the CRA?

Link Posted: 5/1/2009 8:59:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/1/2009 9:01:56 PM EDT by The_Macallan]
Originally Posted By LARRYG:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:


The economy WILL recover by next year (even if only slightly), thus guaranteeing a Democrat lock on the 2010 elections and most likely a re-election of Obama along with a continuing majority in both houses of Congress.

Republicans had their chance at it for almost four years with both houses of Congress and President from 2002-2006 and ten years as majority in the House. They fucking blew it.
Just exactly how did they cause the economy to go bad or what could they have done to prevent the collapse of the housing market that the Dems set in motion with the CRA?

They couldn't get enough of their own Republicans in line to investigate and rein in Fannie Mae.

But that was their JOB.

They had majority in both houses of Congress and the Presidency for four years... nada. Just talk.

They just kept on spending like drunken sailors.

You want a hundred jillion for prescription drugs for seniors? Sure thing, here ya' go!

Another 30 billion for Africa? Jumbo!

Mortgage companies want to make bad loans to millions of people who can't pay and they want the FedGov to back them up? No problem!

Bush never saw a spending bill he didn't sign.

Every State Of The Union speech by Bush was like watching Santa Claus come down the chimney with a bag of billion-dollar toys for everyone in the room - all paid for by US.
Link Posted: 5/1/2009 8:59:54 PM EDT
I kept waiting all through the Clintax administration for the shoe to drop - for a real challenge to his presidency, but God did not choose to really test the guy, whom I am sure would have melted like a cheap candle in an oven.



God must love Leftists, 'cause he makes so many of them.



Originally Posted By Zaphod:



Originally Posted By stormwalker:

the higher he climbs, the farther he will fall.




Let's hope.






 
Link Posted: 5/1/2009 9:01:58 PM EDT
Not really. The WWII generation were forsworn to pull the "D" lever since FDR gave the country away in 1934.



Americans suuuuuuuuure loves them thay socializm!!



Originally Posted By Hollands1:




He is relishing in how fast he is turning US into a socialist nation.  We are fucked.  52 percent of americans now want a socialist nation.  

What the hell happened.  I think it is due to the WW2 generation dying off leaving US with 60's hippies and a demoralized society.  Just my 2 cents.









 
Link Posted: 5/1/2009 9:09:36 PM EDT
USofA, soon to be renamed New Kenya.....
Link Posted: 5/1/2009 10:59:33 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Zaphod:
Originally Posted By stormwalker:
the higher he climbs, the farther he will fall.


Let's hope.


+1
Link Posted: 5/1/2009 11:02:51 PM EDT
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:
Originally Posted By LARRYG:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:


The economy WILL recover by next year (even if only slightly), thus guaranteeing a Democrat lock on the 2010 elections and most likely a re-election of Obama along with a continuing majority in both houses of Congress.

Republicans had their chance at it for almost four years with both houses of Congress and President from 2002-2006 and ten years as majority in the House. They fucking blew it.
Just exactly how did they cause the economy to go bad or what could they have done to prevent the collapse of the housing market that the Dems set in motion with the CRA?

They couldn't get enough of their own Republicans in line to investigate and rein in Fannie Mae.

But that was their JOB.

They had majority in both houses of Congress and the Presidency for four years... nada. Just talk.

They just kept on spending like drunken sailors.

You want a hundred jillion for prescription drugs for seniors? Sure thing, here ya' go!

Another 30 billion for Africa? Jumbo!

Mortgage companies want to make bad loans to millions of people who can't pay and they want the FedGov to back them up? No problem!

Bush never saw a spending bill he didn't sign.

Every State Of The Union speech by Bush was like watching Santa Claus come down the chimney with a bag of billion-dollar toys for everyone in the room - all paid for by US.


The Republican party is reaping what they sowed.

You are so correct.
Link Posted: 5/1/2009 11:41:03 PM EDT
He just needs to push the wrong liberal project and he will take the house of cards that he build down with him.
Gun grabbing comes to mind as a bad liberal project. But then again the rest of their projects depend on the people being unarmed and defenseless. I feel bad for them... Ok I'm over it.
Link Posted: 5/2/2009 12:40:25 AM EDT
Originally Posted By MOA05:
He just needs to push the wrong liberal project and he will take the house of cards that he build down with him.
Gun grabbing comes to mind as a bad liberal project. But then again the rest of their projects depend on the people being unarmed and defenseless. I feel bad for them... Ok I'm over it.


I do NOT want to see this happen, just so everybody knows that. But I think a big tipping point will be reached if/when our nation is attacked - either on our soil or upon that of another nation - and the Kenyan either fails to respond or responds inadequately.

Unfortunately, this very instance occurred several times during the Clinton Administration, and that fucker ducked it every time without much damage at all...unless one counts the dead US servicemen.
Link Posted: 5/2/2009 12:50:24 AM EDT
Originally Posted By AKSig:
They compared him to Reagan? Holy shit.



Reagon was blocked by Congressional Democrats from advancing much of his conservative agenda. A case in point was Judge Bork and other conservatives that were blocked from Judicial appointments.

Obama has more power than Reagon ever did as the Democrats have a fillibuster proof supermajority in congress and he is about the pack the Judiciary with liberal activist judges. Say goodbye to Heller-vs-D.C. as they are going to overturn it once they get a majority of liberal judges on the SCOTUS.


Link Posted: 5/2/2009 12:53:46 AM EDT
Originally Posted By wunbadweel:
Originally Posted By MOA05:
He just needs to push the wrong liberal project and he will take the house of cards that he build down with him.
Gun grabbing comes to mind as a bad liberal project. But then again the rest of their projects depend on the people being unarmed and defenseless. I feel bad for them... Ok I'm over it.


I do NOT want to see this happen, just so everybody knows that. But I think a big tipping point will be reached if/when our nation is attacked - either on our soil or upon that of another nation - and the Kenyan either fails to respond or responds inadequately.

Unfortunately, this very instance occurred several times during the Clinton Administration, and that fucker ducked it every time without much damage at all...unless one counts the dead US servicemen.


The thing is, in the US media, they don't, unless it is as a tool to push an agenda.

If the 9/11 hijackers had flown those planes into an aircraft carrier somewhere in the gulf.... there would have been a few tears, and comments like 'oh how awful'. But that would have been it. The only reason we gave a shit about 9/11 was that the 4k dead where citizens, and it happened on our soil.

Link Posted: 5/2/2009 1:16:33 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Svetgar:
The thing is, in the US media, they don't, unless it is as a tool to push an agenda.



You ain't kidding, Katie Couric was just awarded the "Walter Cronkite Award for Special Impact on the 2008 Campaign."

 
Link Posted: 5/2/2009 2:34:46 AM EDT
The mainstream media can blather on about how much power he has but the reality is that Pakistan is in big trouble with a Taliban uprising, North Korea is probing his resolve and Iran is going full speed ahead on their nuclear program. While all this is going on because of the weak Neville Chamberlin image he is projecting, he focuses on what? building a socialistic big government and attacking the previous president for protecting the nation by approving of aggressive interrogation of terrorists. Someone wake me up and tell me it's just a bad dream.
Link Posted: 5/2/2009 3:29:07 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Buckeye67:
meg·a·lo·ma·ni·a  (měg'ə-lō-mā'nē-ə, -mān'yə) n:

  1. A psychopathological condition characterized by delusional fantasies of wealth, power, or omnipotence.
  2. An obsession with grandiose or extravagant things or actions.

meg'a·lo·ma'ni·ac' n., meg'a·lo·ma·ni'a·cal (-mə-nī'ə-kəl), meg'a·lo·man'ic (-mān'ĭk) adj.


He even had to step on and insult his own Press Secretary yesterday to announce the official Souter news;had to get in front of the cameras.He wants his face in public at all times,sure sign of a dictator.The symbol of America will be his image,replacing the flag.
Link Posted: 5/2/2009 4:04:37 AM EDT
Originally Posted By HK_farmer:
Originally Posted By Zaphod:
Originally Posted By stormwalker:
the higher he climbs, the farther he will fall.


Let's hope.


+1


Time for a big 'push'.
Link Posted: 5/2/2009 4:17:18 AM EDT

Fuck obama.
Link Posted: 5/2/2009 4:22:50 AM EDT
I'm afraid we have only seen the beginning of what the left is going to do to our country.

It's time!!!
Link Posted: 5/2/2009 4:24:01 AM EDT
I guess the idea of  person having so much unbridled power is okay for the Dems, but knowing that the man who has this much power has never been a leader or even a manager of anything in his life is more than just a little unnerving to me. Yup, count me as one of the people that wants to see him fail, and as hard and fast as possible.
Link Posted: 5/2/2009 4:29:43 AM EDT
Originally Posted By sherrick13:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:
Originally Posted By LARRYG:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:


The economy WILL recover by next year (even if only slightly), thus guaranteeing a Democrat lock on the 2010 elections and most likely a re-election of Obama along with a continuing majority in both houses of Congress.

Republicans had their chance at it for almost four years with both houses of Congress and President from 2002-2006 and ten years as majority in the House. They fucking blew it.
Just exactly how did they cause the economy to go bad or what could they have done to prevent the collapse of the housing market that the Dems set in motion with the CRA?

They couldn't get enough of their own Republicans in line to investigate and rein in Fannie Mae.

But that was their JOB.

They had majority in both houses of Congress and the Presidency for four years... nada. Just talk.

They just kept on spending like drunken sailors.

You want a hundred jillion for prescription drugs for seniors? Sure thing, here ya' go!

Another 30 billion for Africa? Jumbo!

Mortgage companies want to make bad loans to millions of people who can't pay and they want the FedGov to back them up? No problem!

Bush never saw a spending bill he didn't sign.

Every State Of The Union speech by Bush was like watching Santa Claus come down the chimney with a bag of billion-dollar toys for everyone in the room - all paid for by US.


The Republican party is reaping what they sowed.

You are so correct.



+1

And people laugh when I say there is no real difference between the two parties (with the exception of abortion and guns––to a degree).


GR
Link Posted: 5/2/2009 4:32:40 AM EDT
Originally Posted By thexrayboy:
Originally Posted By stormwalker:
the higher he climbs, the farther he will fall.



If he climbs high enough and falls far enough he could take a lot of the country with him when he takes the plunge.



No doubt America will suffer, and No doubt people in America will be ruined, families broken, industries collapsed.

but elections have consequences, world leaders and politics are not just a sports game.

most of America treats the election of a president and congress like the play offs and super bowl.

until they make the connection between politics and the very food on their table ( of which it should not be) then we will continue to elect sub prime leaders.
Link Posted: 5/2/2009 4:39:16 AM EDT
I still maintain the Democrats have been able to hold on to power by simply importing more voters.  You have to wonder why our immigration policy favors peasants.  Couple that with the future move to legalize all those illegals already here, guess what?  All those with buyers remorse will not be able to help turn the tide come 2010 or 2012.  20-30 million instant voters who have everything to gain in benefits will do that.
Link Posted: 5/2/2009 4:44:08 AM EDT
Originally Posted By geegee:
I guess the idea of  person having so much unbridled power is okay for the Dems, but knowing that the man who has this much power has never been a leader or even a manager of anything in his life is more than just a little unnerving to me. Yup, count me as one of the people that wants to see him fail, and as hard and fast as possible.


THIS!
Link Posted: 5/2/2009 4:44:13 AM EDT
The one thing that would fix this mess that both the Republicans and Democrats have gotten us into, is to have REAL term limits.  Of course, that will never happen.  There is too much entrenched mindset and too much power and influence at stake.

We have allowed "public service" to become a lucrative way of life for people who otherwise would be used car salesmen if they had to have a real job.

I think the only thing that will change this is a true revolution.  The politicians will never willingly adopt true term limits.

LC
Link Posted: 5/2/2009 5:00:25 AM EDT
well this thread surely did just make me sick to my stomach. again.

I feel like a dog being backed into a corner right now. wtf.
Link Posted: 5/2/2009 5:26:32 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Sixguns4Fighting: Say goodbye to Heller-vs-D.C. as they are going to overturn it once they get a majority of liberal judges on the SCOTUS.




OH no, haven't you heard. Democrats are super dedicated to stare decisis. Or at least that's what they say when conservatives talk about overturning their baby killer jewel. BOHICA.

Link Posted: 5/2/2009 5:28:34 AM EDT
Originally Posted By FALbert:
I still maintain the Democrats have been able to hold on to power by simply importing more voters.  You have to wonder why our immigration policy favors peasants.  Couple that with the future move to legalize all those illegals already here, guess what?  All those with buyers remorse will not be able to help turn the tide come 2010 or 2012.  20-30 million instant voters who have everything to gain in benefits will do that.


yep, there's no going back now. they will pass amnesty soon, probably after health care, and after that happens we'll never be able to vote them out.

Link Posted: 5/2/2009 5:28:34 AM EDT
FUCK HIM !!!!
Link Posted: 5/2/2009 5:33:40 AM EDT
Originally Posted By greenranger:
Originally Posted By sherrick13:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:
Originally Posted By LARRYG:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:


The economy WILL recover by next year (even if only slightly), thus guaranteeing a Democrat lock on the 2010 elections and most likely a re-election of Obama along with a continuing majority in both houses of Congress.

Republicans had their chance at it for almost four years with both houses of Congress and President from 2002-2006 and ten years as majority in the House. They fucking blew it.
Just exactly how did they cause the economy to go bad or what could they have done to prevent the collapse of the housing market that the Dems set in motion with the CRA?

They couldn't get enough of their own Republicans in line to investigate and rein in Fannie Mae.

But that was their JOB.

They had majority in both houses of Congress and the Presidency for four years... nada. Just talk.

They just kept on spending like drunken sailors.

You want a hundred jillion for prescription drugs for seniors? Sure thing, here ya' go!

Another 30 billion for Africa? Jumbo!

Mortgage companies want to make bad loans to millions of people who can't pay and they want the FedGov to back them up? No problem!

Bush never saw a spending bill he didn't sign.

Every State Of The Union speech by Bush was like watching Santa Claus come down the chimney with a bag of billion-dollar toys for everyone in the room - all paid for by US.


The Republican party is reaping what they sowed.

You are so correct.



+1

And people laugh when I say there is no real difference between the two parties (with the exception of abortion and guns––to a degree).


GR
I totally agreed.  Seriously though, Bush domestically, was more liberal than post '94 Bill Clinton.  How hard would it be to veto some spending bills, seriously?  AIDs money to Africa, the Buy Off the Elderly Act (Medicare Prescription bill).

Think of all of today's problems that wouldn't be occurring if Bush simply ignored the bailout talk back in September.  Instead he got greedy, he was too concerned about his legacy and electing another Republican.  He opened up Pandora's Box, the gates to full blown state control over the economy.  

Link Posted: 5/2/2009 5:40:30 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Zaphod:
Originally Posted By stormwalker:
the higher he climbs, the farther he will fall.


Let's hope.


Yes we can!
Link Posted: 5/2/2009 6:18:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/2/2009 6:18:49 AM EDT by Argon3]
The problem with Socialism is sooner or later you run out of other peoples money

                                   - Margaret Thatcher

I read this some where hope I got it quoted and tagged right
Link Posted: 5/2/2009 6:19:54 AM EDT
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:
Originally Posted By LARRYG:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:


The economy WILL recover by next year (even if only slightly), thus guaranteeing a Democrat lock on the 2010 elections and most likely a re-election of Obama along with a continuing majority in both houses of Congress.

Republicans had their chance at it for almost four years with both houses of Congress and President from 2002-2006 and ten years as majority in the House. They fucking blew it.
Just exactly how did they cause the economy to go bad or what could they have done to prevent the collapse of the housing market that the Dems set in motion with the CRA?

They couldn't get enough of their own Republicans in line to investigate and rein in Fannie Mae.

But that was their JOB.

They had majority in both houses of Congress and the Presidency for four years... nada. Just talk.

They just kept on spending like drunken sailors.

You want a hundred jillion for prescription drugs for seniors? Sure thing, here ya' go!

Another 30 billion for Africa? Jumbo!

Mortgage companies want to make bad loans to millions of people who can't pay and they want the FedGov to back them up? No problem!

Bush never saw a spending bill he didn't sign.

Every State Of The Union speech by Bush was like watching Santa Claus come down the chimney with a bag of billion-dollar toys for everyone in the room - all paid for by US.


Both Bush and McCain kept trying to do something about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and all they got was push back.

The CRA is the source of all the problems with the bad loans and the Feds backing them up.  That was the Dems.

Yeah, keep it up and the Dems will continue to be in power because the other side is splintered and eating itself.

What we have no is sooooooooooo much better.
Link Posted: 5/2/2009 6:20:11 AM EDT
Originally Posted By AKSig:
They compared him to Reagan? Holy shit.



This has to be the 7th sign!
Link Posted: 5/2/2009 6:21:17 AM EDT
Originally Posted By greenranger:
Originally Posted By sherrick13:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:
Originally Posted By LARRYG:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:


The economy WILL recover by next year (even if only slightly), thus guaranteeing a Democrat lock on the 2010 elections and most likely a re-election of Obama along with a continuing majority in both houses of Congress.

Republicans had their chance at it for almost four years with both houses of Congress and President from 2002-2006 and ten years as majority in the House. They fucking blew it.
Just exactly how did they cause the economy to go bad or what could they have done to prevent the collapse of the housing market that the Dems set in motion with the CRA?

They couldn't get enough of their own Republicans in line to investigate and rein in Fannie Mae.

But that was their JOB.

They had majority in both houses of Congress and the Presidency for four years... nada. Just talk.

They just kept on spending like drunken sailors.

You want a hundred jillion for prescription drugs for seniors? Sure thing, here ya' go!

Another 30 billion for Africa? Jumbo!

Mortgage companies want to make bad loans to millions of people who can't pay and they want the FedGov to back them up? No problem!

Bush never saw a spending bill he didn't sign.

Every State Of The Union speech by Bush was like watching Santa Claus come down the chimney with a bag of billion-dollar toys for everyone in the room - all paid for by US.


The Republican party is reaping what they sowed.

You are so correct.



+1

And people laugh when I say there is no real difference between the two parties (with the exception of abortion and guns––to a degree).


GR


If you still spout that "both are the same" shit after the last four months, you haven't been paying attention or you just don't want to see it.
Link Posted: 5/2/2009 6:23:38 AM EDT
Originally Posted By LARRYG:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:
Originally Posted By LARRYG:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:


The economy WILL recover by next year (even if only slightly), thus guaranteeing a Democrat lock on the 2010 elections and most likely a re-election of Obama along with a continuing majority in both houses of Congress.

Republicans had their chance at it for almost four years with both houses of Congress and President from 2002-2006 and ten years as majority in the House. They fucking blew it.
Just exactly how did they cause the economy to go bad or what could they have done to prevent the collapse of the housing market that the Dems set in motion with the CRA?

They couldn't get enough of their own Republicans in line to investigate and rein in Fannie Mae.

But that was their JOB.

They had majority in both houses of Congress and the Presidency for four years... nada. Just talk.

They just kept on spending like drunken sailors.

You want a hundred jillion for prescription drugs for seniors? Sure thing, here ya' go!

Another 30 billion for Africa? Jumbo!

Mortgage companies want to make bad loans to millions of people who can't pay and they want the FedGov to back them up? No problem!

Bush never saw a spending bill he didn't sign.

Every State Of The Union speech by Bush was like watching Santa Claus come down the chimney with a bag of billion-dollar toys for everyone in the room - all paid for by US.


Both Bush and McCain kept trying to do something about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and all they got was push back.

The CRA is the source of all the problems with the bad loans and the Feds backing them up.  That was the Dems.

Yeah, keep it up and the Dems will continue to be in power because the other side is splintered and eating itself.

What we have no is sooooooooooo much better.


Honestly, I don't think what they did, constitutes the same as trying.  They took no for an answer.  If they really gave a shit, they would have tried harder, they would have used the bully pulpit.  Besides, the biggest problem is now TARP, thanks to Bush.
Link Posted: 5/2/2009 6:25:49 AM EDT
WTF?!?


I think he will be the last back president we have in our lifetimes. He's an amature, sort of like the movie role typically cast for black actors where they only semi-seriously engage whatever activity they are involved in because they lack the basic competence to do the job.


This!

Reuters used to be a good news service; now the only one you can trust is FOX. Wow.
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