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Posted: 10/18/2008 10:30:18 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/18/2008 10:30:56 AM EST by Berettadeprived]
Hi all.

Being in New Zealand and not being an American, we are pretty removed from the US politics here.

Unfortunatly, we are affected by who ever comes to offce in the USA so I've been following what I can where I can.

I read the below on another forum and was wondering if it was true.

"With only 20 days left to vote and the lead Obama has in the polls should his lead hold here's what we in for in an Obama Administration....

Prosecute people who use guns for self-defense in the home – YES
Ban the sale of almost all hunting ammo – YES
Increase taxes on firearms and ammunition by 500% - YES

What Obama Won't Tell You
The following is from the NRA.... 10/16/2008
Barack Obama's still claiming to be a Second Amendment supporter, and gun owners around the country are continuing to tell their friends, neighbors, co-workers and even strangers the truth about Obama's anti-gun agenda.
Second Amendment scholar David Hardy is shedding light on Obama's time with the Joyce Foundation, the anti-gun organization that funneled tens of millions of dollars to gun control groups while Obama served on its board of directors.
It turns out Obama didn't have a problem with the Joyce Foundation buying issues of law reviews and turning them into gun-control propaganda pieces. Yet Obama, who taught a constitutional law seminar at the University of Chicago, keeps saying he'd never do anything to hurt the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. It's too late for rhetoric like that. He already has hurt the Second Amendment, and he'd do a lot more if given the chance. "

If the above is true, is he allowed to do this or would there nned to be a process in the gov. that he'd need to go through and would there be pubplic voting alloed on the isue.

This sucks, cause everytime there is a ban or restriction in the USA, we feel it here too, especially when it comes to guns
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:32:44 AM EST
In the past Obama voted to ban all guns all the time.

His web page for his presidential candidacy now says he is fully in favor of gun rights.

Amazing what a few weeks will do to a lifelong stance.
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:33:37 AM EST
He wants to even ban most hunting ammo? What's he going to allow, 22 caliber? Seriously , third party voters need to take note of this.
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:35:28 AM EST
Many do believe it will happen based on his past votes and statements
Also, with the wacko Speaker of the House and Majority leader it WILL certainly happen.
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:36:59 AM EST
I believe it is true because my current issue of American Rifleman tells me so.
NRA hates O. Should be reason enough for anyone on this board.
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:38:54 AM EST
You know I hate this mother%^%$ with everything in me and I can only pray MCain pulls through because if this man gets into office we are all screwed. The demofags are waiting to pass every socialist program they can VOTE VOTE and as was mentioned above third party voters better wake up and small the asskicking to come if we lose
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:41:00 AM EST

Originally Posted By jkstexas2001:
He wants to even ban most hunting ammo? What's he going to allow, 22 caliber? Seriously , third party voters need to take note of this.


a .22 rifle and nothing bigger than a .38 handgun. hell ted kennedy wanted to ban 3o-3o ammo!
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:44:36 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/18/2008 10:45:10 AM EST by lincolndz]

Originally Posted By Berettadeprived:

If the above is true, is he allowed to do this or would there nned to be a process in the gov. that he'd need to go through and would there be pubplic voting alloed on the isue.

This sucks, cause everytime there is a ban or restriction in the USA, we feel it here too, especially when it comes to guns


To answer your question, the Congress must go through the process of passing legislation that accomplishes these bans or increases in taxes.

The only public voting that will matter at that time is who we elect to represent us in Congress. Congress will vote for or against it, not us.

In short, he can't do it all by himself.
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:44:45 AM EST

Originally Posted By Berettadeprived:
Hi all.

Being in New Zealand and not being an American, we are pretty removed from the US politics here.

Unfortunatly, we are affected by who ever comes to offce in the USA so I've been following what I can where I can.

I read the below on another forum and was wondering if it was true.

"With only 20 days left to vote and the lead Obama has in the polls should his lead hold here's what we in for in an Obama Administration....

Prosecute people who use guns for self-defense in the home – YES
Ban the sale of almost all hunting ammo – YES
Increase taxes on firearms and ammunition by 500% - YES

What Obama Won't Tell You
The following is from the NRA.... 10/16/2008
Barack Obama's still claiming to be a Second Amendment supporter, and gun owners around the country are continuing to tell their friends, neighbors, co-workers and even strangers the truth about Obama's anti-gun agenda.
Second Amendment scholar David Hardy is shedding light on Obama's time with the Joyce Foundation, the anti-gun organization that funneled tens of millions of dollars to gun control groups while Obama served on its board of directors.
It turns out Obama didn't have a problem with the Joyce Foundation buying issues of law reviews and turning them into gun-control propaganda pieces. Yet Obama, who taught a constitutional law seminar at the University of Chicago, keeps saying he'd never do anything to hurt the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. It's too late for rhetoric like that. He already has hurt the Second Amendment, and he'd do a lot more if given the chance. "

If the above is true, is he allowed to do this or would there nned to be a process in the gov. that he'd need to go through and would there be pubplic voting alloed on the isue.

This sucks, cause everytime there is a ban or restriction in the USA, we feel it here too, especially when it comes to guns


I thought New Zealanders weren't too fond of us these days.
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:58:36 AM EST
Oh, everyone hates the USA, I'm looked at side ways and called a red neck if I come up in defence of the US here.

Everyone in NZ can't wait for Barak"Allah" Obama to get elected.

We are a few weeks away from our own general ellection and even the lesser of the two evils is calling himself the NZ Obama (And I have to vote for the prick just to get the more communist of the parties out of power)

So, yes, the world hates the USA, I still think a lot of the hate is just causeit is fasionable.

If I were to offer a free all expenses paid holiday to half these morons who protest against the USA in this country, the'd be happier then a hungry baby in a topless bar.
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 11:12:00 AM EST

Originally Posted By gene5:

Originally Posted By jkstexas2001:
He wants to even ban most hunting ammo? What's he going to allow, 22 caliber? Seriously , third party voters need to take note of this.


a .22 rifle and nothing bigger than a .38 handgun. hell ted kennedy wanted to ban 3o-3o ammo!
I think most gun grabbers seek to ban everything but shotguns.... Then theyll ban shotguns too of course
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 11:15:21 AM EST

Originally Posted By Berettadeprived:
Hi all.

Being in New Zealand and not being an American, we are pretty removed from the US politics here.

Unfortunatly, we are affected by who ever comes to offce in the USA so I've been following what I can where I can.

I read the below on another forum and was wondering if it was true.

"With only 20 days left to vote and the lead Obama has in the polls should his lead hold here's what we in for in an Obama Administration....

Prosecute people who use guns for self-defense in the home – YES
Ban the sale of almost all hunting ammo – YES
Increase taxes on firearms and ammunition by 500% - YES

What Obama Won't Tell You
The following is from the NRA.... 10/16/2008
Barack Obama's still claiming to be a Second Amendment supporter, and gun owners around the country are continuing to tell their friends, neighbors, co-workers and even strangers the truth about Obama's anti-gun agenda.
Second Amendment scholar David Hardy is shedding light on Obama's time with the Joyce Foundation, the anti-gun organization that funneled tens of millions of dollars to gun control groups while Obama served on its board of directors.
It turns out Obama didn't have a problem with the Joyce Foundation buying issues of law reviews and turning them into gun-control propaganda pieces. Yet Obama, who taught a constitutional law seminar at the University of Chicago, keeps saying he'd never do anything to hurt the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. It's too late for rhetoric like that. He already has hurt the Second Amendment, and he'd do a lot more if given the chance. "

If the above is true, is he allowed to do this or would there nned to be a process in the gov. that he'd need to go through and would there be pubplic voting alloed on the isue.

This sucks, cause everytime there is a ban or restriction in the USA, we feel it here too, especially when it comes to guns


this is all true...the problem is the average american is stupid and is to ignorant to see through obamas lies and twisting of the facts.
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