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Posted: 6/3/2008 8:22:46 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/3/2008 8:23:25 PM EST by thompsondd]
..........that we needed to be as careful getting out of Iraq as we were careless getting in. That it was an unjust and unauthorized war that should have never been started in the first place and that it was time to bring our troops home. Every other threat to our defense was being ignored.


AND THEN

he said it was time to get tough with dictators.





He said his differences with Senator McCain weren't personal, that he wouldn't ignore Senator McCain's accomplishments even though Senator McCain ignored his.


His WHAT?


What the FUCK HAS THIS GUY DONE??? EVER????




It's about CHANGE. Yeah, HOW is this change supposed to happen? HOW? Pure fucking magic????????



I am starting to see this election in a way that I really don't want to. It isn't so much the candidates any more (I'm not a big fan of politicians since NONE of them really have the interests of us, their constituents, in mind anymore) as it the VOTERS.

What is it that would make someone actually cast a vote for this guy???

I honestly can't look at anyone who has an "OBAMA" sticker in the window or on the bumper of their car, wears the shirt, holds the sign, etc without a mixture of absolute laughter and disgust at the same time.

Are that many of my fellow Americans that fucking stupid??????





Link Posted: 6/3/2008 8:25:37 PM EST

Originally Posted By thompsondd:

It's about CHANGE. Yeah, HOW is this change supposed to happen? HOW? Pure fucking magic????????


Taxes, lots more taxes.
Link Posted: 6/3/2008 8:31:47 PM EST

Originally Posted By thompsondd:



Are that many of my fellow Americans that fucking stupid??????








The answer to that unfortunately is yes
Link Posted: 6/3/2008 8:31:54 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/3/2008 8:32:44 PM EST by sleepy56ace]

Originally Posted By thompsondd:
..........that we needed to be as careful getting out of Iraq as we were careless getting in. That it was an unjust and unauthorized war that should have never been started in the first place and that it was time to bring our troops home. Every other threat to our defense was being ignored.


AND THEN

he said it was time to get tough with dictators.





He said his differences with Senator McCain weren't personal, that he wouldn't ignore Senator McCain's accomplishments even though Senator McCain ignored his.


His WHAT?


What the FUCK HAS THIS GUY DONE??? EVER????




It's about CHANGE. Yeah, HOW is this change supposed to happen? HOW? Pure fucking magic????????



I am starting to see this election in a way that I really don't want to. It isn't so much the candidates any more (I'm not a big fan of politicians since NONE of them really have the interests of us, their constituents, in mind anymore) as it the VOTERS.

What is it that would make someone actually cast a vote for this guy???

I honestly can't look at anyone who has an "OBAMA" sticker in the window or on the bumper of their car, wears the shirt, holds the sign, etc without a mixture of absolute laughter and disgust at the same time.

Are that many of my fellow Americans that fucking stupid??????








I dont mean to be captain obvious of the asshole ship here but, yes that many of your fellow americans are THAT stupid.


ETA: Damn im slow...
Link Posted: 6/3/2008 8:43:32 PM EST
Ignorance....



Lots of people want gov health care but dont think about the negatives. Yeah it sounds great that anyone can walk in and recieve medical care but you dont ever hear about being put on a waiting list, denied proper medical treatment because they want to save money, higher taxes, more beauracracy, et cetera. Look at the countries that have socialized medicine, and their tax rates. They pay for that shit with 8-9 dollar a gallon of gas, 40-60% income taxes, and shit like that. No one in the media ever talks about those sorts of things so people think they wont have to pay insurance premiums anymore and will still get the same level of care. Plus when people dont have to pay out of pocket for their coverage/care they'll go a lot more which drives up the cost even higher.

Then Iraq. What was the popular vote for going into Iraq in 2002? 80-90%? Now all these people claim to be against the war because Bush "lied" and all that bullshit. They dont even think about how fucked up that place is going to be if we just up and leave. We did this in Vietnam, and how many thousands and thousands of people were killed after we left?

Obama is a good speaker and all his fans watching it dont even think about 80-90% of the shit he says. Certain people have the ability to say whatever they want and people just go with it. Hitler had the ability, too.

Increasingly as a society we are looking for gov hand outs and bail outs. Airlines, banks, mortgage companies, home owners, et cetera. We're in a tight spot economy wise, and when people feel the "pinch" they're more likely to do drastic things like vote that man into office no matter what. Hitler was able to get an entire country to turn a blind eye to the murder of millions of people. Its entirely plausible that someone like Obama with a similar speaking ability can get millions to simply vote for him. Inbetween the world wars Germany had a horrible economy. When someone makes tons of promises people will welcome change no matter what or face a continuation of how things are which is the perception people have of McCain. They think things will stay the same as they are now by voting for him while things will get better with Obama.

Link Posted: 6/3/2008 8:43:36 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/3/2008 8:44:28 PM EST by paddymurphy]
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I dont mean to be captain obvious of the asshole ship here but, yes that many of your fellow americans are THAT stupid.


ETA: Damn im slow...

Now that is sigline material. May I use it?

ETA yes OP they are. If they weren't they would not be looking for the .gov to bail them out of the messes they have created.
Link Posted: 6/3/2008 8:46:33 PM EST
sure why not.

Belmont hit the nail on the head. +1 on that.
Link Posted: 6/3/2008 8:53:05 PM EST
Well looking at a bunch of my douche bag highschool classmate's facebooks and its obvious at how motivating he is.. Considering half of them have some stupid shit pertaining to Obama in their statuses..



Im sorry but people my age are just fucking dumb..
Link Posted: 6/3/2008 8:54:44 PM EST
I anticipate this election to be the most polarizing event in this country in my lifetime.
Link Posted: 6/3/2008 8:58:15 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/3/2008 9:02:25 PM EST by sleepy56ace]

Originally Posted By WarWeapon762:
Well looking at a bunch of my douche bag highschool classmate's facebooks and its obvious at how motivating he is.. Considering half of them have some stupid shit pertaining to Obama in their statuses..



Im sorry but people my age are just fucking dumb..



I feel your pain, im probably the only 20 year old in my county thats patriotic, semi-knowledgable, honest and has any sence. That being said, welcome to the retard generation, getting more ignorant and less responsible by the year!

ETA: The retard generation is brought to you in part by, THE DEMOFUCKS, working harder and harder everyday to piss you the hell off!
Link Posted: 6/3/2008 8:58:59 PM EST
Link Posted: 6/3/2008 9:07:22 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/3/2008 9:08:06 PM EST by RAINBOW6]

Originally Posted By thompsondd:
..........What is it that would make someone actually cast a vote for this guy???







A society drunk on government handouts. The public education system.
Link Posted: 6/3/2008 9:08:19 PM EST

Originally Posted By sleepy56ace:

Originally Posted By WarWeapon762:
Well looking at a bunch of my douche bag highschool classmate's facebooks and its obvious at how motivating he is.. Considering half of them have some stupid shit pertaining to Obama in their statuses..



Im sorry but people my age are just fucking dumb..



I feel your pain, im probably the only 20 year old in my county thats patriotic, semi-knowledgable, honest and has any sence. That being said, welcome to the retard generation, getting more ignorant and less responsible by the year!

ETA: The retard generation is brought to you in part by, THE DEMOFUCKS, working harder and harder everyday to piss you the hell off!


You aren't the only one.. I am too
Link Posted: 6/3/2008 9:08:25 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/3/2008 9:09:09 PM EST by myitinaw]
I believe I heard Glen Beck the other day say, after researching
Obama's credentials, He's the least qualified person running
for POTUS in history....

Link Posted: 6/3/2008 9:17:02 PM EST
I shelled out 20 bucks for a McCain sign to put in my yard, I have to counter the nine Obama signs on our road. Last election there were 63 Bush signs, and 2 Kerry signs. Right now we're 9/1 Obama/McCain. Hasn't been stolen yet though, I had to replace my Bush sign about 20 times last year, stupid hippy liberal neighbors
Link Posted: 6/3/2008 9:18:44 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/3/2008 9:19:03 PM EST by WarWeapon762]

Originally Posted By 068:
I shelled out 20 bucks for a McCain sign to put in my yard, I have to counter the nine Obama signs on our road. Last election there were 63 Bush signs, and 2 Kerry signs. Right now we're 9/1 Obama/McCain. Hasn't been stolen yet though, I had to replace my Bush sign about 20 times last year, stupid hippy liberal neighbors


oh god..

I know your pain.. Every day when I go to work, all the way down my block is LITTERED with fucking Obama signs.. literally..

Then the next block down... Hillary signs..
Link Posted: 6/3/2008 9:21:37 PM EST

Originally Posted By WarWeapon762:

Originally Posted By sleepy56ace:

Originally Posted By WarWeapon762:
Well looking at a bunch of my douche bag highschool classmate's facebooks and its obvious at how motivating he is.. Considering half of them have some stupid shit pertaining to Obama in their statuses..



Im sorry but people my age are just fucking dumb..



I feel your pain, im probably the only 20 year old in my county thats patriotic, semi-knowledgable, honest and has any sence. That being said, welcome to the retard generation, getting more ignorant and less responsible by the year!

ETA: The retard generation is brought to you in part by, THE DEMOFUCKS, working harder and harder everyday to piss you the hell off!


You aren't the only one.. I am too


Good to know im not alone.

Now all we need to do is find women that share our veiws so we can have the kids that will take back our country!....like that will ever happen...
Link Posted: 6/3/2008 9:22:01 PM EST
Link Posted: 6/3/2008 9:22:24 PM EST

Originally Posted By sleepy56ace:

Originally Posted By WarWeapon762:

Originally Posted By sleepy56ace:

Originally Posted By WarWeapon762:
Well looking at a bunch of my douche bag highschool classmate's facebooks and its obvious at how motivating he is.. Considering half of them have some stupid shit pertaining to Obama in their statuses..



Im sorry but people my age are just fucking dumb..



I feel your pain, im probably the only 20 year old in my county thats patriotic, semi-knowledgable, honest and has any sence. That being said, welcome to the retard generation, getting more ignorant and less responsible by the year!

ETA: The retard generation is brought to you in part by, THE DEMOFUCKS, working harder and harder everyday to piss you the hell off!


You aren't the only one.. I am too


Good to know im not alone.

Now all we need to do is find women that share our veiws so we can have the kids that will take back our country!....like that will ever happen...


I'm younger than both of you and engaged to a woman that shares my beliefs
Link Posted: 6/3/2008 9:23:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/3/2008 9:24:19 PM EST by jasonfin1128]
The Sheeple are quite the stupid fucks, yes.

I want my country back, but few seem to care or understand the America that is slipping away.

On the other hand, things may get pretty fucked up with Obama that just MAYBE it will stir a revolution and revival?

I can only wish...


Link Posted: 6/3/2008 9:25:02 PM EST
Yes, "change". The change is....we're all gonna get a change of underwear! Jason, you change with Bill, Fred you change with Dave..........
Link Posted: 6/3/2008 9:28:30 PM EST

Originally Posted By 068:


I'm younger than both of you and engaged to a woman that shares my beliefs



She got sister's?

All the chicks here in jefferson county are prissy libtards or backwoods chicks missing their front teeth and cross eye'd.

and no im not kidding neither.
Link Posted: 6/3/2008 9:31:15 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/3/2008 9:31:39 PM EST by A_Free_Man]

That it was an unjust and unauthorized war that should have never been started in the first place



Unauthorized?

UNAUTHORIZED?????

Am I the only one who remembers that almost every member of Congress voting to go to war?
Link Posted: 6/3/2008 9:32:50 PM EST

Originally Posted By sleepy56ace:

Originally Posted By 068:


I'm younger than both of you and engaged to a woman that shares my beliefs



She got sister's?

All the chicks here in jefferson county are prissy libtards or backwoods chicks missing their front teeth and cross eye'd.

and no im not kidding neither.


If you're into a 25 year old whore who already has three kids, then yes she has a sister. Who's also a hippy liberal. So, no
Link Posted: 6/3/2008 9:32:50 PM EST
Does Obama even know what the job of the President of the US is? I do not think hope and change is part of it.

We have split our government into 3 branches for a reason. Dude. To keep people like you from having too much power.
Link Posted: 6/3/2008 9:34:02 PM EST
I'll tell you, the first place Obama sends the thought police will be Arfcom...
Link Posted: 6/4/2008 6:00:56 AM EST

Originally Posted By jasonfin1128:
The Sheeple are quite the stupid fucks, yes.

I want my country back, but few seem to care or understand the America that is slipping away.

On the other hand, things may get pretty fucked up with Obama that just MAYBE it will stir a revolution and revival?

I can only wish...



You aren't alone.
Link Posted: 6/4/2008 6:07:32 AM EST

Originally Posted By myitinaw:
I believe I heard Glen Beck the other day say, after researching
Obama's credentials, He's the least qualified person running
for POTUS in history....



The jackass isn't qualified to pump gas.
Link Posted: 6/4/2008 6:37:36 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/4/2008 6:40:21 AM EST by thompsondd]
Here's the speech that he gave last night in MN: www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080604/NEWS0502/306040005

On McCain:


“In just a few short months, the Republican Party will arrive in St. Paul with a very different agenda. They will come here to nominate John McCain, a man who has served this country heroically. I honor that service, and I respect his many accomplishments, even if he chooses to deny mine. My differences with him are not personal; they are with the policies he has proposed in this campaign.


Here's the part about getting out of Iraq and then IMHO contradiction:



“Change is a foreign policy that doesn’t begin and end with a war that should’ve never been authorized and never been waged. I won’t stand here and pretend that there are many good options left in Iraq, but what’s not an option is leaving our troops in that country for the next hundred years — especially at a time when our military is overstretched, our nation is isolated, and nearly every other threat to America is being ignored.

“We must be as careful getting out of Iraq as we were careless getting in — but start leaving we must. It’s time for Iraqis to take responsibility for their future. It’s time to rebuild our military and give our veterans the care they need and the benefits they deserve when they come home. It’s time to refocus our efforts on al-Qaida’s leadership and Afghanistan, and rally the world against the common threats of the 21st century — terrorism and nuclear weapons; climate change and poverty; genocide and disease. That’s what change is.

“Change is realizing that meeting today’s threats requires not just our firepower, but the power of our diplomacy — tough, direct diplomacy where the president of the United States isn’t afraid to let any petty dictator know where America stands and what we stand for. We must once again have the courage and conviction to lead the free world. That is the legacy of Roosevelt, and Truman, and Kennedy. That’s what the American people want. That’s what change is.

Link Posted: 6/4/2008 9:18:24 AM EST
I challenge anyone to show me where in that speech, or any speech, that he says "this is going to change and here is how it is going to change."

I am just utterly disgusted by the mindless, thoughtless SHEEPLE that populate this country.

Link Posted: 6/4/2008 9:30:26 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/4/2008 9:31:30 AM EST by gcpd19]

Originally Posted By thompsondd:
..........
What the FUCK HAS THIS GUY DONE??? EVER????


When he did vote, he raised our health insurance costs, does that count?
Link Posted: 6/4/2008 9:35:17 AM EST
50% of the US pop. is certifiable.
Link Posted: 6/4/2008 9:40:04 AM EST
His accomplishments?

He keeps getting elected to various positions.

As far as Obama stickers on cars, I look at the people to see what complete tards look like.
Link Posted: 6/4/2008 10:01:05 AM EST

Originally Posted By LOW2000:

Originally Posted By thompsondd:

It's about CHANGE. Yeah, HOW is this change supposed to happen? HOW? Pure fucking magic????????


Taxes, lots more taxes.


Your forgot the upcoming race war that's a brewing.
Father Pleger said it best. Its time for whitey to give up his 401 K to make things right.

And your kidding yourself if you don't think his line of thought is plentiful.
Link Posted: 6/4/2008 10:12:32 AM EST
Now that he is Da Man, he'll be charging to the center as fast as his well oiled tongue can take him.
Link Posted: 6/4/2008 10:19:12 AM EST

Originally Posted By LOW2000:

Originally Posted By thompsondd:

It's about CHANGE. Yeah, HOW is this change supposed to happen? HOW? Pure fucking magic????????


Taxes, lots more taxes.


You know, that's one thing I don't get. We're at war, building an absolutely huge national debt and people still bitch about taxes like they're vampires being sprinkled with holy water. WTF? How do you recommend we pay for things? People on ArfCom love to spout how they have no credit card debt and are fiscally responsible yet shriek at the sight of taxes in an era where most people's federal debt load is more than their annual income.



DN
Link Posted: 6/4/2008 10:35:06 AM EST

Originally Posted By DarkNite:

Originally Posted By LOW2000:

Originally Posted By thompsondd:

It's about CHANGE. Yeah, HOW is this change supposed to happen? HOW? Pure fucking magic????????


Taxes, lots more taxes.


You know, that's one thing I don't get. We're at war, building an absolutely huge national debt and people still bitch about taxes like they're vampires being sprinkled with holy water. WTF? How do you recommend we pay for things? People on ArfCom love to spout how they have no credit card debt and are fiscally responsible yet shriek at the sight of taxes in an era where most people's federal debt load is more than their annual income.



DN


Increased tax revenue (vs. expenditures) is different from increased tax rates.
Link Posted: 6/4/2008 10:36:15 AM EST

Originally Posted By DarkNite:

Originally Posted By LOW2000:

Originally Posted By thompsondd:

It's about CHANGE. Yeah, HOW is this change supposed to happen? HOW? Pure fucking magic????????


Taxes, lots more taxes.


You know, that's one thing I don't get. We're at war, building an absolutely huge national debt and people still bitch about taxes like they're vampires being sprinkled with holy water. WTF? How do you recommend we pay for things? People on ArfCom love to spout how they have no credit card debt and are fiscally responsible yet shriek at the sight of taxes in an era where most people's federal debt load is more than their annual income.



DN



Maybe that's because "People on Arfcom" realize that paying higher taxes will not automatically equate to paying off National debt, but instead only be used to implement more vote buying government dependency programs.

Link Posted: 6/4/2008 11:47:35 AM EST
So I take it many people here don't support this Chicago hustler?
Link Posted: 6/4/2008 12:02:43 PM EST

Originally Posted By danc46:
i8.photobucket.com/albums/a22/danc46/image00122.jpg


Obama was not sworn in on a Koran. That was Keith Ellison, a Minnesota congressman.
Link Posted: 6/4/2008 12:06:42 PM EST

Originally Posted By WarWeapon762:

Originally Posted By 068:
I shelled out 20 bucks for a McCain sign to put in my yard, I have to counter the nine Obama signs on our road. Last election there were 63 Bush signs, and 2 Kerry signs. Right now we're 9/1 Obama/McCain. Hasn't been stolen yet though, I had to replace my Bush sign about 20 times last year, stupid hippy liberal neighbors


oh god..

I know your pain.. Every day when I go to work, all the way down my block is LITTERED with fucking Obama signs.. literally..

Then the next block down... Hillary signs..



Free target stands?
Link Posted: 6/5/2008 5:33:11 AM EST

Originally Posted By akethan:

Originally Posted By WarWeapon762:

Originally Posted By 068:
I shelled out 20 bucks for a McCain sign to put in my yard, I have to counter the nine Obama signs on our road. Last election there were 63 Bush signs, and 2 Kerry signs. Right now we're 9/1 Obama/McCain. Hasn't been stolen yet though, I had to replace my Bush sign about 20 times last year, stupid hippy liberal neighbors


oh god..

I know your pain.. Every day when I go to work, all the way down my block is LITTERED with fucking Obama signs.. literally..

Then the next block down... Hillary signs..



Free target stands?


The signs or the candidates???



Assuming you are talking about the signs, but hey, a guy can dream can't he?
Link Posted: 6/5/2008 5:43:06 AM EST

Originally Posted By thompsondd:
What is it that would make someone actually cast a vote for this guy???

He's black and we haven't had that before, so it's new, and we don't like what we've had before, so this is better, so it's change.

Seriously … You expect someone who would vote for Obama to process decisions with logic and understanding?
Link Posted: 6/5/2008 5:57:24 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/5/2008 5:58:26 AM EST by joker581]

Originally Posted By thompsondd:
What the FUCK HAS THIS GUY DONE??? EVER????
Looked black without acting like the stereotypical black asshole in this country. Oh yeah, he is also going to "fix" America.

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