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Posted: 11/19/2012 1:52:16 PM EST
Well?
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 2:00:43 PM EST
Originally Posted By Guardian05:
Well?


Thanksgiving is always a 4 day, unless it falls on a Wednesday...
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 2:01:37 PM EST
Originally Posted By 161Infantry:
Originally Posted By Guardian05:
Well?


Thanksgiving is always a 4 day, unless it falls on a Wednesday...






Link Posted: 11/19/2012 2:02:29 PM EST
Originally Posted By 161Infantry:
Originally Posted By Guardian05:
Well?


Thanksgiving is always a 4 day, unless it falls on a Wednesday...



Hardly.
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 2:05:21 PM EST
Originally Posted By Desert_AIP:
Originally Posted By 161Infantry:
Originally Posted By Guardian05:
Well?


Thanksgiving is always a 4 day, unless it falls on a Wednesday...



Hardly.


Never had a command where it wasn't.
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 2:05:28 PM EST
Originally Posted By Desert_AIP:
Originally Posted By 161Infantry:
Originally Posted By Guardian05:
Well?


Thanksgiving is always a 4 day, unless it falls on a Wednesday...



Hardly.


In 23 years, I have never been in a unit that didnt give it as a 4 day, unless deployed...or it fell on the wednesday..then you had to work thursday and got Fri-Sunday off
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 2:10:21 PM EST
Wednesday
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 2:10:41 PM EST
Originally Posted By 161Infantry:
Originally Posted By Desert_AIP:
Originally Posted By 161Infantry:
Originally Posted By Guardian05:
Well?


Thanksgiving is always a 4 day, unless it falls on a Wednesday...



Hardly.


In 23 years, I have never been in a unit that didnt give it as a 4 day, unless deployed...or it fell on the wednesday..then you had to work thursday and got Fri-Sunday off


Somebody help me. Is Thanksgiving ever on a Wednesday? Is this a military thing, or am I missing something?



Link Posted: 11/19/2012 2:16:42 PM EST
Originally Posted By FlashHole:
Originally Posted By 161Infantry:
Originally Posted By Desert_AIP:
Originally Posted By 161Infantry:
Originally Posted By Guardian05:
Well?


Thanksgiving is always a 4 day, unless it falls on a Wednesday...



Hardly.


In 23 years, I have never been in a unit that didnt give it as a 4 day, unless deployed...or it fell on the wednesday..then you had to work thursday and got Fri-Sunday off


Somebody help me. Is Thanksgiving ever on a Wednesday? Is this a military thing, or am I missing something?



Generalization....if a holiday falls on a wednesday...per regs, the mil will not give you a 5 day pass.....if you get wednesday off, you have to work the following day, and will get Friday-Sunday or Sat-Mon....been that way along as I can remember..

Link Posted: 11/19/2012 2:18:02 PM EST
Wednesday.LOLZ!!!!!!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 2:18:14 PM EST
Thanksgiving is ALWAYS on the 2nd to last thursday of the month.
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 2:20:38 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/19/2012 2:21:00 PM EST by BubbaDog81]
Originally Posted By 161Infantry:
Originally Posted By FlashHole:
Originally Posted By 161Infantry:
Originally Posted By Desert_AIP:
Originally Posted By 161Infantry:
Originally Posted By Guardian05:
Well?


Thanksgiving is always a 4 day, unless it falls on a Wednesday...



Hardly.


In 23 years, I have never been in a unit that didnt give it as a 4 day, unless deployed...or it fell on the wednesday..then you had to work thursday and got Fri-Sunday off


Somebody help me. Is Thanksgiving ever on a Wednesday? Is this a military thing, or am I missing something?



Generalization....if a holiday falls on a wednesday...per regs, the mil will not give you a 5 day pass.....if you get wednesday off, you have to work the following day, and will get Friday-Sunday or Sat-Mon....been that way along as I can remember..



Thanksgiving never ever ever falls on Wednesday. Its always the 4th Thursday in November. It has been this way for my last 31 years on this lovely planet.

Link Posted: 11/19/2012 2:20:46 PM EST
Originally Posted By smithc6:
Thanksgiving is ALWAYS on the 2nd to last thursday of the month.


4th Thursday of the month. Always.
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 2:24:20 PM EST
Originally Posted By BubbaDog81:
Originally Posted By 161Infantry:
Originally Posted By FlashHole:
Originally Posted By 161Infantry:
Originally Posted By Desert_AIP:
Originally Posted By 161Infantry:
Originally Posted By Guardian05:
Well?


Thanksgiving is always a 4 day, unless it falls on a Wednesday...



Hardly.


In 23 years, I have never been in a unit that didnt give it as a 4 day, unless deployed...or it fell on the wednesday..then you had to work thursday and got Fri-Sunday off


Somebody help me. Is Thanksgiving ever on a Wednesday? Is this a military thing, or am I missing something?



Generalization....if a holiday falls on a wednesday...per regs, the mil will not give you a 5 day pass.....if you get wednesday off, you have to work the following day, and will get Friday-Sunday or Sat-Mon....been that way along as I can remember..



Thanksgiving never ever ever falls on Wednesday. Its always the 4th Thursday in November. It has been this way for my last 31 years on this lovely planet.

So? My family doesnt observe it anyways....another Illegal immigrant celebration...

Link Posted: 11/19/2012 2:25:29 PM EST
Google, it's a motherfucker.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving_(United_States)

Since being fixed at the fourth Thursday in November by law in 1941, the holiday in the United States can occur on any date from November 22 to 28. When it falls on November 22 or 23, it is not the last Thursday, but the penultimate Thursday in November. As it is a Federal holiday, all United States government offices are closed and employees are paid for that day. It is also a holiday for the New York Stock Exchange and most other financial markets and financial services companies.
Thanksgiving dates, 2012–2022
November 22, 2012
November 28, 2013
November 27, 2014
November 26, 2015
November 24, 2016
November 23, 2017
November 22, 2018
November 28, 2019
November 26, 2020
November 25, 2021
November 24, 2022

Link Posted: 11/19/2012 2:27:02 PM EST

Originally Posted By KC-10Boom:
Originally Posted By smithc6:
Thanksgiving is ALWAYS on the 2nd to last thursday of the month.

4th Thursday of the month. Always.

...except when it's on a Wednesday.


















Link Posted: 11/19/2012 2:33:30 PM EST
Obama has not given the US Military a 4 day weekend since he has been in office.

In my experience most Navy commands will not give out a 96 hour "Special Liberty" pass.

One stands duty at some point in time during the long weekend, one works a day or one takes a day of leave.





Link Posted: 11/19/2012 2:35:58 PM EST
Originally Posted By smithc6:
Thanksgiving is ALWAYS on the 2nd to last thursday of the month.


Link Posted: 11/19/2012 4:08:36 PM EST
Originally Posted By KA3B:
Google, it's a motherfucker.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving_(United_States)

Since being fixed at the fourth Thursday in November by law in 1941, the holiday in the United States can occur on any date from November 22 to 28. When it falls on November 22 or 23, it is not the last Thursday, but the penultimate Thursday in November. As it is a Federal holiday, all United States government offices are closed and employees are paid for that day. It is also a holiday for the New York Stock Exchange and most other financial markets and financial services companies.
Thanksgiving dates, 2012–2022
November 22, 2012
November 28, 2013
November 27, 2014
November 26, 2015
November 24, 2016
November 23, 2017
November 22, 2018
November 28, 2019
November 26, 2020
November 25, 2021
November 24, 2022



Answering the question..Its a motherfucker.

So im guessing no?


Link Posted: 11/19/2012 4:09:56 PM EST
Originally Posted By 161Infantry:
Originally Posted By Guardian05:
Well?


Thanksgiving is always a 4 day, unless it falls on a Wednesday...

I'm not sure you quite understand how Thanksgiving is determined every year.


Anyway, President Obama has nothing to do with it. It's commander's discretion. Usually they give a 96 for Turkey Day.
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 8:20:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/19/2012 8:21:12 PM EST by Desert_AIP]
Originally Posted By 161Infantry:
Originally Posted By Desert_AIP:
Originally Posted By 161Infantry:
Originally Posted By Guardian05:
Well?


Thanksgiving is always a 4 day, unless it falls on a Wednesday...



Hardly.


In 23 years, I have never been in a unit that didnt give it as a 4 day, unless deployed...or it fell on the wednesday..then you had to work thursday and got Fri-Sunday off


So I assume you aren't in the Navy, haven't been doing deployment work ups at home during the holidays, never had duty, were never on an overseas staff or at a recruit training command.
Not counting deployments, the Friday after Thanksgiving has been a work day at least 4 or 5 times in the past 22 years.
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 8:30:19 PM EST
Originally Posted By Desert_AIP:
Originally Posted By 161Infantry:
Originally Posted By Desert_AIP:
Originally Posted By 161Infantry:
Originally Posted By Guardian05:
Well?


Thanksgiving is always a 4 day, unless it falls on a Wednesday...



Hardly.


In 23 years, I have never been in a unit that didnt give it as a 4 day, unless deployed...or it fell on the wednesday..then you had to work thursday and got Fri-Sunday off


So I assume you aren't in the Navy, haven't been doing deployment work ups at home during the holidays, never had duty, were never on an overseas staff or at a recruit training command.
Not counting deployments, the Friday after Thanksgiving has been a work day at least 4 or 5 times in the past 22 years.



Ummm the Army doesn't just up and quit on Thanksgiving. Some guys still work, most don't.

Link Posted: 11/19/2012 8:39:20 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/19/2012 8:41:55 PM EST by DevilDog0317]


Ummm the Army doesn't just up and quit on Thanksgiving. Some guys still work, most don't.



US Army works? It must be something new
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 8:46:53 PM EST
Originally Posted By DevilDog0317:


Ummm the Army doesn't just up and quit on Thanksgiving. Some guys still work, most don't.



US Army works? It must be something new
Just supporting Marines with tanks in Fallujah and such...

Link Posted: 11/19/2012 8:51:04 PM EST
Interservice butthurt came out quick. Most units here get a 96, mine works this weekend.
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 8:58:52 PM EST
Originally Posted By Desert_AIP:
Originally Posted By 161Infantry:
Originally Posted By Desert_AIP:
Originally Posted By 161Infantry:
Originally Posted By Guardian05:
Well?


Thanksgiving is always a 4 day, unless it falls on a Wednesday...



Hardly.


In 23 years, I have never been in a unit that didnt give it as a 4 day, unless deployed...or it fell on the wednesday..then you had to work thursday and got Fri-Sunday off


So I assume you aren't in the Navy, haven't been doing deployment work ups at home during the holidays, never had duty, were never on an overseas staff or at a recruit training command.
Not counting deployments, the Friday after Thanksgiving has been a work day at least 4 or 5 times in the past 22 years.


Are you being stupid for a reason(as in, you're fucking stupid) or just trolling?

4 to 5 times in 22 years. That's all?

The military doesn't stop working on holidays while deployed. Plenty of day to day garrison and training events happen around holidays even in the states.

Whenever possible in garrison, and whenever other duties don't interfere, Thanksgiving is a 4 day.


Link Posted: 11/19/2012 8:59:56 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/19/2012 9:00:14 PM EST by FDC]
Originally Posted By Guardian05:
Well?


Oh, and WTF does the President have to do with days off?

You're spending too much time in GD.
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 9:06:50 PM EST
Army. I miss the meals delIvered to us in the field. Those were special. The cooks did their best to founder us.
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 9:22:51 PM EST

Originally Posted By FDC:
Originally Posted By Guardian05:
Well?


Oh, and WTF does the President have to do with days off?

You're spending too much time in GD.
He usually plays golf.

Link Posted: 11/19/2012 9:28:34 PM EST
It's Wednesday on leap years
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 9:40:50 PM EST
Originally Posted By Guardian05:
Originally Posted By KA3B:
Google, it's a motherfucker.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving_(United_States)

Since being fixed at the fourth Thursday in November by law in 1941, the holiday in the United States can occur on any date from November 22 to 28. When it falls on November 22 or 23, it is not the last Thursday, but the penultimate Thursday in November. As it is a Federal holiday, all United States government offices are closed and employees are paid for that day. It is also a holiday for the New York Stock Exchange and most other financial markets and financial services companies.
Thanksgiving dates, 2012–2022
November 22, 2012
November 28, 2013
November 27, 2014
November 26, 2015
November 24, 2016
November 23, 2017
November 22, 2018
November 28, 2019
November 26, 2020
November 25, 2021
November 24, 2022


Answering the question..Its a motherfucker.
So im guessing no?


It's not hard to fucking open up a new browser window to type your question into Google to find an answer.
Have you never worked for an answer in your life or have they always been handed to you on a silver fucking platter.
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 9:42:11 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/19/2012 9:42:19 PM EST by KA3B]
Originally Posted By MACD:
It's Wednesday on leap years


That's known as Quadsgiving.

Link Posted: 11/19/2012 10:12:21 PM EST
POTUS doesn't tell Joe when to show up for duty.


I can distinctly remember having thanksgiving of and then coming in to work on Friday. Needs of the Navy dictate, and 72 hours is all a lot of commands will give you without burning a day of leave.

Link Posted: 11/19/2012 10:20:01 PM EST
My first holidays on thanksgiving were folled by a flight back to work.(1978)
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 10:52:49 PM EST
We are going as little as possible for the next week or so.

Christmas thru New Year's is about the same, boxes of candy bars, lots of drinking, playing video games in sweats.

Good thing I am going to be home in US for all of it.

Link Posted: 11/19/2012 11:02:39 PM EST
Originally Posted By Slateman:
Originally Posted By 161Infantry:
Originally Posted By Guardian05:
Well?


Thanksgiving is always a 4 day, unless it falls on a Wednesday...

I'm not sure you quite understand how Thanksgiving is determined every year.


Anyway, President Obama has nothing to do with it. It's commander's discretion. Usually they give a 96 for Turkey Day.


And if Obama did, honestly if I was in the service I wouldn't want an extra day off if it was given to me by him. It'd be a fucking insult.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 12:01:50 AM EST
There is always a duty section keeping the lights on.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 12:24:29 AM EST
We generally worked the Friday; the biggest problem was trying to look busy. Most of the time we cleaned up and organized things.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 12:48:01 AM EST
Originally Posted By DrMark:

Originally Posted By KC-10Boom:
Originally Posted By smithc6:
Thanksgiving is ALWAYS on the 2nd to last thursday of the month.

4th Thursday of the month. Always.

...except when it's on a Wednesday.








Except when it falls on a Saturday or Sunday. Then it is celebrated on Tuesday
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 1:14:29 AM EST
Originally Posted By 161Infantry:
Originally Posted By Guardian05:
Well?


Thanksgiving is always a 4 day, unless it falls on a Wednesday...


I needed that laugh, thanks.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 5:54:06 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/20/2012 5:55:49 AM EST by Desert_AIP]
Originally Posted By FDC:
Originally Posted By Desert_AIP:
Originally Posted By 161Infantry:
Originally Posted By Desert_AIP:
Originally Posted By 161Infantry:
Originally Posted By Guardian05:
Well?


Thanksgiving is always a 4 day, unless it falls on a Wednesday...



Hardly.


In 23 years, I have never been in a unit that didnt give it as a 4 day, unless deployed...or it fell on the wednesday..then you had to work thursday and got Fri-Sunday off


So I assume you aren't in the Navy, haven't been doing deployment work ups at home during the holidays, never had duty, were never on an overseas staff or at a recruit training command.
Not counting deployments, the Friday after Thanksgiving has been a work day at least 4 or 5 times in the past 22 years.


Are you being stupid for a reason(as in, you're fucking stupid) or just trolling?

4 to 5 times in 22 years. That's all?

The military doesn't stop working on holidays while deployed. Plenty of day to day garrison and training events happen around holidays even in the states.

Whenever possible in garrison, and whenever other duties don't interfere, Thanksgiving is a 4 day.



Nice way to miss the point...RIF.

First of all I said NOT counting deployments, add another 4 at least to that. So 8 out of 22 ~30% or so.
Second, read the entire series of posts, I was responding to the original "Thanksgiving is ALWAYS a 4 day". Which it clearly is not.
The special lberty policy is generally held at the command level.
Operational and training requirements impinge on that. Sometimes Friday is just another work day. In my experience, about 1/3 of the time.

My point:
"Whenever possible" is not "Always".

Always means it can be counted on.
Reference wingnutx post above.

Now I did observe PACAF routinely giving the entire Pacific Air Force units special liberty "Family Days" in conjunction with every federal holiday...
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 5:58:21 AM EST
I was under the impression that it was up to the CO's discretion as to how much time off was allowed for a unit. They definitely can't go past 96 hours though.

I've had a few skippers who got around that and gave us a 5-day pass provided we face mustered on Saturday for all of 3 minutes.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 6:00:31 AM EST

Originally Posted By 161Infantry:
Originally Posted By Guardian05:
Well?


Thanksgiving is always a 4 day, unless it falls on a Wednesday...


Link Posted: 11/20/2012 6:09:23 AM EST
4 Day Weekend!!!!!!!!!!!


Oh you're Staff Duty runner on Friday. Later.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 6:17:44 AM EST
So, are our boys & girls going to have time off for friends & family? If so, that will be ONE thing Zero has done right (unless he has plans to seize control ala Night of the Long Knives).
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 6:22:06 AM EST
Originally Posted By 161Infantry:
Originally Posted By Guardian05:
Well?


Thanksgiving is always a 4 day, unless it falls on a Wednesday...


Then its a 5 day
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 6:24:50 AM EST
I was in three-section rotation. It was never ever a 4 day weekend.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 6:26:39 AM EST
Originally Posted By KC-10Boom:
Originally Posted By smithc6:
Thanksgiving is ALWAYS on the 2nd to last thursday of the month.


4th Thursday of the month. Always.


Except for when its a Wednesday
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 6:28:39 AM EST
Pre ban Twinkies for the troops too!
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 6:29:53 AM EST
Originally Posted By MACD:
It's Wednesday on leap years


rofl.

Link Posted: 11/20/2012 6:43:54 AM EST
Originally Posted By Guardian05:
Well?


It's not the President who gives the 4-day pass for holidays that fall on Monday, Tuesday, Thursday or Friday. In the Air Force, the Major Command (MAJCOM) commander, usually a 4-star, has the authority to designate the 4th day a "family day", thereby making a four day pass. That usually means you have off, with the caveat that mission is priority and you have to stay in the local area. If you are going out of the designated local area, which differs from MAJCOM to MAJCOM, you will have to use your leave days. In my 10 years with the USAF, we've gotten the four-day weekends mostly for the bigger federal holidays. Also, the family days are pre-identifed early on and sent out via a memorandum from the 4-star.
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