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Posted: 10/28/2013 1:41:08 PM EST
President Obama repeatedly assured Americans that after the Affordable Care Act became law, people who liked their health insurance would be able to keep it. But millions of Americans are getting or are about to get cancellation letters for their health insurance under Obamacare, say experts, and the Obama administration has known that for at least three years.

Four sources deeply involved in the Affordable Care Act tell NBC NEWS that 50 to 75 percent of the 14 million consumers who buy their insurance individually can expect to receive a “cancellation” letter or the equivalent over the next year because their existing policies don’t meet the standards mandated by the new health care law. One expert predicts that number could reach as high as 80 percent. And all say that many of those forced to buy pricier new policies will experience “sticker shock.”
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http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/28/21213547-obama-admin-knew-millions-could-not-keep-their-health-insurance?lite

My shocked face...

People have only been saying this for years.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:44:59 PM EST
Obama: "you can keep your insurance"

American people: "Some of us are having doubts..."

Obama: "Trust me, I president now!"

American people: "You lied!"

Obama: "lolololol"
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:46:34 PM EST
What, a politician lied to the people with a straight face?


Gee, I'd never have seen THAT one coming.


Even if the ACA is not overturned, repealed, or modified, it will be studiously ignored by MOST of the people.

We won't sign up for it.

It will be mass civil disobedience. So much of it that there will not be the slightest effort to enforce the penalties.

It's going to go away or be rendered toothless, one way or another.


CJ
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:46:42 PM EST
The only appropriate answer to any and all of Obama's failures, FBHO.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:47:04 PM EST
Wife already got her cancellation letter.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:47:18 PM EST
The average non brain dead liberal American knew it would happen also. But the liberal media couldn't get off their knees and stop the fluffing to report on it.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:48:57 PM EST
do people actually think they can trust ANYTHING that comes from this administration?
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:50:36 PM EST
Well, duh!
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:52:09 PM EST
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Hey, the Repubs made 'em water the whole thing down, this is payback.

Gotta love sports!

Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:52:30 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Chuy123:
The average non brain dead liberal American knew it would happen also. But the liberal media couldn't get off their knees and stop the fluffing to report on it is part and parcel of the movement to make the U.S. a Socialist country.
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Inserted reality into your spot on post.

TC
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:53:43 PM EST
all a scam......to lead to one doorway exit.

Single payer system.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:54:34 PM EST
If Obama were to say he is a homosexual, I would still not believe him.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:55:19 PM EST
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Gotta love sports!

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This right here will be the lefts talking point. It doesn't matter that the repubs did manage to get anything passed that would indeed water it down.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:56:35 PM EST
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Yeah, and he is getting lit up over that stupid fucking comment.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:57:12 PM EST
Fbho
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:57:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Jozsi:
all a scam......to lead to one doorway exit.

Single payer system.
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Yup.
Just pop on over to DU they call obamacare "an evolution to single payer".
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:58:18 PM EST
The obama lied!? The Democrats must be outraged!
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:58:38 PM EST
Soooo..... he lied?

Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:59:03 PM EST
What difference does it make?
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:59:08 PM EST
With any luck it will be the modern version of "read my lips no new taxes" next election. Maybe a new batch of Reagan democrats
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 2:00:25 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Chuy123:
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I know some pretty smart, conservative leaning people that fell for this. Makes you wonder about people as a whole. It's hard to compete with Santa Claus I guess.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 2:01:16 PM EST
I'm sure the press is gunna run with this.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 2:02:17 PM EST
And yet the Obamabots will continue to make excuses for him.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 2:05:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By cmjohnson:
What, a politician lied to the people with a straight face?


Gee, I'd never have seen THAT one coming.


Even if the ACA is not overturned, repealed, or modified, it will be studiously ignored by MOST of the people.

We won't sign up for it.

It will be mass civil disobedience. So much of it that there will not be the slightest effort to enforce the penalties.

It's going to go away or be rendered toothless, one way or another.


CJ
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It's the IRS, they will enforce.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 2:05:38 PM EST
Fbho and the FSA he rode in on

(note the lowercase bho because he's less significant)
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 2:11:40 PM EST
FBHO
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 2:12:46 PM EST
The only thing shocking about this report is that it came from NBC
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 2:13:20 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 2:14:29 PM EST
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Originally Posted By cmjohnson:
What, a politician lied to the people with a straight face?


Gee, I'd never have seen THAT one coming.


Even if the ACA is not overturned, repealed, or modified, it will be studiously ignored by MOST of the people.

We won't sign up for it.

It will be mass civil disobedience. So much of it that there will not be the slightest effort to enforce the penalties.

It's going to go away or be rendered toothless, one way or another.


CJ
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While that may be all well and good, but for many, many people thats all going to happen too late, the damage will already be done with
increases in premiums for those fortunate enough to keep their insurance. And the prices and restrictions I am hearing about coming out of Odumbocare
are nothing short of ridiculous!
What is it going to take, is the population just set on watching the complete unraveling of the country before they start thinking about throwing the bums out?
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 2:16:13 PM EST
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Yup.
Just pop on over to DU they call obamacare "an evolution to single payer".
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Originally Posted By Jozsi:
all a scam......to lead to one doorway exit.

Single payer system.


Yup.
Just pop on over to DU they call obamacare "an evolution to single payer".


this is the goal. the gov already pays over 50 percent of all medical bills thru VA, medicare, medicaid and gov workers. the framework is there. simply put everyone on the system already set up and be done.

many dems were actually pissed that single payer wasnt the result of the legislation and felt betrayed.

obamacare is a jury rigged system which pulls in additional revenue from taxes, forces everyone to be a part and slots everyone in somewhere along the scheme. but it is a hodgepodge of half-assed solutions and is doomed to collapse. and its collapse is part of the plan. the solution is more or less fairly simple. simply issue everyone a medicare card from birth and then increase taxes to pay for it while at the same time setting prices that the system will pay. it will result in rationing except for those with enough money to hire their own doktors. this is as long as hilary care doesnt make its evil appearance since with hilary care, it was a felony for a doktor to treat a patient outside of the system.. ... one more reason to vote for whoever runs for pres on the republikan side, even if he is a rino....

and there is more than enough blame to be placed on the liberals/progressives. but wake me up when the conservatives come along with an alternative. medical care in this country as a percentage of GDP is increasing every year regardless of who pays for it. not a small part of the blame lies at the feet of the medical-industrial-complex which has been insulated from the market place for years and remains so regardless of whether the conservatives or liberals are in power. in fact but sides feed the beast for different reasons..
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Link Posted: 10/28/2013 2:27:39 PM EST
The latest Left talking point on this is that all the policies getting cancelled were mini-med plans with no hospitalization or worthless catastrophic plans that nobody could afford to use anyway. They say once every one gets an Obamacare plan and has access to "real health care" they will be thankful.

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um..didn't the democrats control the house and the senate when this was passed?

Exactly how did the repubs have any say in it at all? <rhetorical>
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 2:35:18 PM EST
Of course the admin knew that. Fuck every one of them in the goat ass.

Cocksuckers.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 2:39:53 PM EST
so..... people emigrating to Canada because our Healthcare will actually be cheaper... for once? (Just in case some people don't know, ours is paid for by stupidly anal rape high taxes... still cheaper than obamacare)
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 2:48:35 PM EST
You can keep it if you can afford it.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 2:52:37 PM EST
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Originally Posted By LANCEMAN:
The latest Left talking point on this is that all the policies getting cancelled were mini-med plans with no hospitalization or worthless catastrophic plans that nobody could afford to use anyway. They say once every one gets an Obamacare plan and has access to "real health care" they will be thankful.

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I bought my own health insurance in Wyoming, which I cancelled earlier this year when I moved to Oklahoma. I checked the other day out of curiosity to see what my plan would've been had I stayed. It would've went up over $100/mo (~$200 to $314), and it was a mid-range deductible and basically the 'catastrophic' plan they're talking about. The price increase was the additional things to make it 'compliant' with the Unaffordable Care Act.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 3:08:32 PM EST
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um..didn't the democrats control the house and the senate when this was passed?

Exactly how did the repubs have any say in it at all? <rhetorical>
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Originally Posted By Silver_Surfer:
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Hey, the Repubs made 'em water the whole thing down, this is payback.

Gotta love sports!




um..didn't the democrats control the house and the senate when this was passed?

Exactly how did the repubs have any say in it at all? <rhetorical>


You know "Doug-950479" don't know what the fuck "rhetorical" means, right?
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 3:11:41 PM EST
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Gotta love sports!

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Yeah, this is the new talking point for the faithful.

Been seeing it all over comments sections the last few days.

"The ACA is what the Republicans forced on Obama"

It is sad and scary and infuriating.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 3:12:14 PM EST
That was the plan all along
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 3:12:57 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Saladman:
Obama: "you can keep your insurance"

American people: "Some of us are having doubts..."

Obama: "Trust me, I president now!"

American people: "You lied!"

Obama: "lolololol"
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Link Posted: 10/28/2013 3:14:14 PM EST
Obamacare will collapse under its own weight. When the "bill " hit 2300 pages, I knew it was going to be a screwed up mess and would eventually go away.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 3:16:26 PM EST
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It's going to go away or be rendered toothless, one way or another.


CJ
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Unfortunately you are incorrect. The negative impacts are already widespread and growing.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 3:17:31 PM EST
Must be Bush's fault, Right?
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 3:57:18 PM EST
We knew this, but glad to see it in the news finally.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 4:20:18 PM EST
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You know "Doug-950479" don't know what the fuck "rhetorical" means, right?
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Hey, the Repubs made 'em water the whole thing down, this is payback.

Gotta love sports!




um..didn't the democrats control the house and the senate when this was passed?

Exactly how did the repubs have any say in it at all? <rhetorical>


You know "Doug-950479" don't know what the fuck "rhetorical" means, right?


Care to enlighten me?
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Originally Posted By 999monkeys:


It's the IRS, they will enforce.
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Originally Posted By cmjohnson:
What, a politician lied to the people with a straight face?


Gee, I'd never have seen THAT one coming.


Even if the ACA is not overturned, repealed, or modified, it will be studiously ignored by MOST of the people.

We won't sign up for it.

It will be mass civil disobedience. So much of it that there will not be the slightest effort to enforce the penalties.

It's going to go away or be rendered toothless, one way or another.


CJ


It's the IRS, they will enforce.

Within the ACA itself, it states that the IRS cannot levy, garnish(sp) your pay or assets in order to enforce the fines. It states that the IRS is limited to only taking your tax refund. If you adjust your withholding so you don't receive a refund, there is no way the IRS can enforce the fine.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 4:29:04 PM EST
All'yall looked right past what he was saying.

When he spoke to the millions who could keep their Doctor, and their existing coverage,

he was talking to the millions who were already getting it for free.
















Excuse me, there's a knock at the door.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 4:45:04 PM EST
Someone should sue Jug Ears for fucking and lying to the American People.

FBHO till he is dead, fucking POS CoC vilation in charge of Fucking us
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 4:46:29 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Jozsi:
all a scam......to lead to one doorway exit.

Single payer system.
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